Yeah I read the whole argument on rationalwiki, but it's pilpul. They argue that the existence of mixed people on the edges of geographic racial zones proves there is no such thing as race.
I hesitate to even say this as it's maybe obvious, but yeah anthropologists may want to use better proxies for genetic makeup than "white" or "black". But it's still a useful political concept because that's how people act.
I feel like if they used actual genetic analysis, they'd just get shut down harder. I mean so they find the "violence" gene. You know where that gene is going to be disproportionately expressed.
There are ton of words and categories that have ambiguous margins. Even something like "chair" is infamously difficult to define truly accurately. It doesn't mean the words mean nothing.
The internet has had a whole meme war over "Is a taco a hot dog?".
Language is, be design, vague, so that it can deliver concepts quickly and concisely. "There is a chair over there you can sit on", you look, and there is a padded cylinder with a slight concave top, but no other objects, you will likely correctly assume it is some type of stool, a chair subtype, to sit upon.
Likewise, if I said "there's an asian guy over there who you should talk to", you're not going to ask for phenotype tests of the red-haired white guy and the ebon-black afro-man while a fellow of clear Chinese ancestry stands beside them. Race may be ambiguous to an extent, but arguing that it doesn't exist is arguing that hot dogs don't exist because tacos also are bread product in a curve holding a meat product with toppings.
Races are very large groups, and, I point this out often, race is determined by self-identification. What race is then, from a research perspective, is the most you can get a person to tell you about their genetic ancestry based on a multiple choice. And from a political perspective, it tells you how they see themselves.
So I totally see why a scientist would look at this as low grade data, which is why I say by all means feel free to study people genetically along other lines. But sociologists also want to pretend race doesn't exist. Which is weird because that's people telling you how they identify. Which I thought was something sociologists tried to respect and study.
No it's not. Race is biological reality. Anthropologists can look at your skull and teeth and tell your near exact racial mix down to several generations.
I hadn't been considering fossils and the like. For living people, race is determined by asking them their race. You could do it biologically, but that's not what happens. My point was while that is valid very broadly, it provides little detail about your genetics. Thus I understand if scientists would like to rely on different data.
They say the existence of clines prove that race doesn't exist. They repeat things that scientists have said about race not being a useful concept to them and claim that that means that race doesn't exist.
I don't know any simpler way to put it than that.
I like rationalwiki for opposition research sometimes. I'm not using it for information about the world.
I know one of these college-educated NPCs. Not so much a leftist as he is an actual fucking robot. Last time we were having an argument and I used the word "race" in the context of modern racial politics, it triggered that huge spiel about race not existing...even though it had absolutely zero relevancy to the conversation.
I'd have pointed that out to him, but he's honestly too fucking stupid to have understood.
Anyways, yes, they're pushing hard for this, because they don't have any way to account for racial disparities at this point. They're at the point where they have to suppress the very idea of race, and in the process, breaking their lesser model NPCs.
Don't blame it on the Jews if you don't want. We're still in Weimar.
AFAIK a Weimar solution is electing a new government anyways. The national socialists were a political party with votes first first, even though they ultimately ended up being the only political party in a one party state.
You probably do have to overthrow the government to reduce the influence of women. I don't think they will ever vote to take away the vote from themselves.
Don't need to take their vote. Need to take their control of the education system away, then everyone will hate them anyway and they'll vote the way that lets them claim to be good.
The root of women's control is their power over developing minds. They groom a new generation of simps every single year.
Sure, now you just have to convince over half the voters who have been allowed to vote without any social costs for a century, in the most gynocentric time of human history, that they should relinquish that power before they fully collapse civilization
One Shaun Connery treatment ought to be enough for most of them to give up.
Gynocentric means they truly have no idea how to deal with anyone putting up a real fight anymore. If someone isn't swayed by their name calling they're usually reduced to sullen whining or calling for a man to fix their problem for them.
So you don't need to convince the women to give it up, you just need to convince the men to stop giving it to them on a platter.
So, you admit that they'd be a joke party without women's substantial backing? I already knew that, but it's fun when their side admits it. I wonder if we'll ever get a chance to push Holocaust guilt onto the worse half of society. It'll only do good to have much more scrutiny of what they say.
They got control through an ill-fated deal that eventually led to the fake Reichstag fire and then the Enabling Act. By the way, did you hear about all the incel terrorists? We need "misogyny" laws. (Yes, I am implying what you think I am.)
Stop trying to put words in my mouth. You aren't smart enough.
And they got control of the parliament via means that had fuck all to do with women by the way. Your abject ignorance of history doesn't change what actually happened. They got control because the jew backed KDP terrorists had run on a platform of outlawing Catholicism, so the Catholic political party backed their opponents.
They got control by faking a terrorist attack and then crying about it as they passed laws banning opposition, just like women's current favorite, Sleepy Joe Biden and his handler Jill.
The easiest way to tell the Nazis were a women's party is to notice women's allies still use the same tactics that got them power.
Bruh the dude who mistook jews for commies (because of a statistical overlap) had major support from the dudes. You'd have a better argument if you went for "no women because they suck at statistics," but it still falls into the same trap.
The Nazis were initially supported by women. If it wasn't for them, there wouldn't have been a Nazi Party, Hitler would have been a fringe retard in the German Workers Party and we would have avoided WW2.
He often excuses Muslim terrorists and black thugs, because "women made them this way". I swear to god, he would cheer if he had to die like that, but a woman also died.
You don't have to put words in his mouth or make guesses about what he'd say. In a debate I had with him many months ago, back before I knew who he was, he actually admitted to me that he'd be fine with humanity dying out merely to spite women (forgive me, I can't recall the exact context of the discussion, but the point was made, and he was quite clear). I can acknowledge the faults of modern women, their role in the downfall of society, and the destructive nature of feminism as anyone else here, but TheImp has taken it waaay too far. He has occasional good points, but he's unhinged.
I make "guesses", because I have talked to him many times before and he always circles back to these autistic, weird ideas. Like I know what sort of retarded arguments he will make and I am tired of it.
Every time a man does something wrong, he blames women. Male politicians being evil? A woman is behind it. Male terrorists literally murdering people? Women in their culture are awful, therefore they do it. Male trannies physically abusing women, molesting little girls, being generally awful? Women turned them that way. Male murderer? Well, it's a feminist false flag.
Every. Fucking. Time. Every time.
The Nazis were "initially" an occult book club for rich kids, and started getting political when the KDP attempted a blatant coup in the city of Munich, and tried to secede to the USSR.
They would have been functionally nonexistent in history without the Bolsheviks.
Yuri Bezmenov was a former KGB agent in the Soviet Union. He defected to the West, and was given a fake identity and asylum in Canada. He began to notice communist infiltration of the West, even back then. Even though it put himself in danger of reprisal from the Soviet agents, in the 80s he began to publicly warn people that the communists were infiltrating the West, and they begin by taking over education. Once they corrupt the education system, it only takes them 15 years to control a country, since that's how much time it takes to brainwash a new generation. He also had some well founded and unkind words to say about the leaders of the West. Little did he know that almost all of them were already in on the corruption and subversion of the West.
It has not even been a decade since Obergefel. It's only been nine years. Nine years and now they're publishing and propagating instructions manuals to first grade children on eating ass.
The scary part is that this doesn't suprise me. I went and got a beer with a buddy who's a teacher recently and he said that their administration seperated all the teachers by race and the white ones (including my buddy) were ranted at over "white privilege" and other shit.
once again: if i can buy it on amazon, it isn't banned. you are not entitled to having taxpayer money wasted to put your degenerate pornography where kids can see it.
and honestly arguing that you are just sounds to me like you making a case for your very public and painful execution.
They also like to conflate hentai with these porn books. Hentai is meant for 18+ people. While these porn books are in libraries accessible and probably promoted to kids.
The most an anime/manga has is fan service or euphemisms at most, not full blown porn.
The most an anime/manga has is fan service or euphemisms at most, not full blown porn.
Well yeah that's another conflation people do. They view the medium as its most degenerate expression. Kind of the same thing westerners do with the whole country when they talk about "weird Japan" and strange things from there that most Japanese people haven't even heard of.
a long time ago, way before you were born, a group of white people made up an idea called race.
'A race of people invented the concept of races.' Cuckoo! Cuckoo!
They sorted people by skin colour
The Irish, the Jews and Slavs would like a word with you.
and said that white people were better, smarter, prettier and that they deserve more than everybody else.
This is backwards.
It was not 'we are smarter smarter and better than these people, therefore we deserve more'.
No, it was 'Hang on, why do we have so much more, and know so much more than these people? Why can we do things they can't even imagine? ...Are we smarter than them? ...If we're so much smarter than them... Is it a bad idea to breed with them?'
The white man did not set out with idea that he was superior to justify his actions. He set out with the idea that he was poor, only to find people who were even poorer.
The book isn't even fucking factual. Unless my understanding is wrong and someone can correct me... i haven't nor plan on trying it... the anus isn't the fucking pleasure center of anal... it's the stimulation of the inner vaginally walls and prostate for why people do it. The asshole is by design to not be that sensitive. Christ, they don't even understand their own degenerate shit. Or again, maybe I'm misinformed.
You are correct in that anal penetration gives no real pleasure by itself, some people may like the mere feeling of penetration but it gives no sexual stimulus.
The last image looks like shit you would find in pornographic artwork, this is abhorrent.
Also what's funny is the woke art may violate lolisho bans if the characters in explicit sex-ed terrorist propaganda crap were underage. I hate those bans because they spread false CP charges, but watching a woke freak slander the cops and the court because their stupid garbage met the minimum requirements for violating said controversial ban would be funny.
Also note how the text in the shitty sex-ed crap is retarded unprofessional garbage that conveniently neglects to warn about how anal penetration can cause incontinence and is effectively comparable to smoking!
"Race is a made up concept invented by the white race."
If you are so stupid you read this and don't see what's happening, there's no hope for you.
And yet they spend most of their time arguing about race. And wasn't it just a decade ago that they started saying "not seeing race is racist"?
If there’s no race, then we were all enslaved and there’s no need for reparations or priority college admission.
Yeah I read the whole argument on rationalwiki, but it's pilpul. They argue that the existence of mixed people on the edges of geographic racial zones proves there is no such thing as race.
I hesitate to even say this as it's maybe obvious, but yeah anthropologists may want to use better proxies for genetic makeup than "white" or "black". But it's still a useful political concept because that's how people act.
I feel like if they used actual genetic analysis, they'd just get shut down harder. I mean so they find the "violence" gene. You know where that gene is going to be disproportionately expressed.
There are ton of words and categories that have ambiguous margins. Even something like "chair" is infamously difficult to define truly accurately. It doesn't mean the words mean nothing.
The internet has had a whole meme war over "Is a taco a hot dog?".
Language is, be design, vague, so that it can deliver concepts quickly and concisely. "There is a chair over there you can sit on", you look, and there is a padded cylinder with a slight concave top, but no other objects, you will likely correctly assume it is some type of stool, a chair subtype, to sit upon.
Likewise, if I said "there's an asian guy over there who you should talk to", you're not going to ask for phenotype tests of the red-haired white guy and the ebon-black afro-man while a fellow of clear Chinese ancestry stands beside them. Race may be ambiguous to an extent, but arguing that it doesn't exist is arguing that hot dogs don't exist because tacos also are bread product in a curve holding a meat product with toppings.
Actual quote from a supervisor: "Go give it to that short Mexican over there." ...
My response: "Which one? They're all short."
Races are very large groups, and, I point this out often, race is determined by self-identification. What race is then, from a research perspective, is the most you can get a person to tell you about their genetic ancestry based on a multiple choice. And from a political perspective, it tells you how they see themselves.
So I totally see why a scientist would look at this as low grade data, which is why I say by all means feel free to study people genetically along other lines. But sociologists also want to pretend race doesn't exist. Which is weird because that's people telling you how they identify. Which I thought was something sociologists tried to respect and study.
No it's not. Race is biological reality. Anthropologists can look at your skull and teeth and tell your near exact racial mix down to several generations.
It has not a damn thing to do with "identify."
I hadn't been considering fossils and the like. For living people, race is determined by asking them their race. You could do it biologically, but that's not what happens. My point was while that is valid very broadly, it provides little detail about your genetics. Thus I understand if scientists would like to rely on different data.
For living people, race is determined by their DNA and appearance.
I can claim I'm japanese, but I'd still be white. Biological facts aren't a matter of opinion.
They say the existence of clines prove that race doesn't exist. They repeat things that scientists have said about race not being a useful concept to them and claim that that means that race doesn't exist.
I don't know any simpler way to put it than that.
I like rationalwiki for opposition research sometimes. I'm not using it for information about the world.
There are even people here who spout that shit.
I know one of these college-educated NPCs. Not so much a leftist as he is an actual fucking robot. Last time we were having an argument and I used the word "race" in the context of modern racial politics, it triggered that huge spiel about race not existing...even though it had absolutely zero relevancy to the conversation.
I'd have pointed that out to him, but he's honestly too fucking stupid to have understood.
Anyways, yes, they're pushing hard for this, because they don't have any way to account for racial disparities at this point. They're at the point where they have to suppress the very idea of race, and in the process, breaking their lesser model NPCs.
To be fair, it's supposed to be read to children.
That makes it worse...
Don't let women vote so we don't get another retard who blames everything on Jews.
Don't blame it on the Jews if you don't want. We're still in Weimar.
AFAIK a Weimar solution is electing a new government anyways. The national socialists were a political party with votes first first, even though they ultimately ended up being the only political party in a one party state.
I blame it on women, we're talking about the education system here. It couldn't be more obvious.
You probably do have to overthrow the government to reduce the influence of women. I don't think they will ever vote to take away the vote from themselves.
Don't need to take their vote. Need to take their control of the education system away, then everyone will hate them anyway and they'll vote the way that lets them claim to be good.
The root of women's control is their power over developing minds. They groom a new generation of simps every single year.
How do you take their control of the education system away?
The government has ultimate control through the Department of Education, correct?
Can't the Department of Education, under Trump, pass a law that limits the amount of women in teaching for the good of the children?
Can we compromise and just agree to never let women vote again?
Sure, now you just have to convince over half the voters who have been allowed to vote without any social costs for a century, in the most gynocentric time of human history, that they should relinquish that power before they fully collapse civilization
One Shaun Connery treatment ought to be enough for most of them to give up.
Gynocentric means they truly have no idea how to deal with anyone putting up a real fight anymore. If someone isn't swayed by their name calling they're usually reduced to sullen whining or calling for a man to fix their problem for them.
So you don't need to convince the women to give it up, you just need to convince the men to stop giving it to them on a platter.
Til Magnus Hirschfeld was a woman.
Remind me, in what regions did the Nazis get the most votes? Those with the most women.
Now take your simp party back to the 1930s. Nobody's going to fall for it this time.
The tides are changing and they are going against women. Racial solidarity is a doomed ideology.
Remind me, how did they actually get control of the parliament? They won a plurality and not the majority.
So, you admit that they'd be a joke party without women's substantial backing? I already knew that, but it's fun when their side admits it. I wonder if we'll ever get a chance to push Holocaust guilt onto the worse half of society. It'll only do good to have much more scrutiny of what they say.
They got control through an ill-fated deal that eventually led to the fake Reichstag fire and then the Enabling Act. By the way, did you hear about all the incel terrorists? We need "misogyny" laws. (Yes, I am implying what you think I am.)
Stop trying to put words in my mouth. You aren't smart enough.
And they got control of the parliament via means that had fuck all to do with women by the way. Your abject ignorance of history doesn't change what actually happened. They got control because the jew backed KDP terrorists had run on a platform of outlawing Catholicism, so the Catholic political party backed their opponents.
Uhuh.
They got control by faking a terrorist attack and then crying about it as they passed laws banning opposition, just like women's current favorite, Sleepy Joe Biden and his handler Jill.
The easiest way to tell the Nazis were a women's party is to notice women's allies still use the same tactics that got them power.
Reichstag Fire - January 6th - "Incel terrorists"
Enabling Act - "Domestic terrorism" Act - "misogyny" laws.
Bruh the dude who mistook jews for commies (because of a statistical overlap) had major support from the dudes. You'd have a better argument if you went for "no women because they suck at statistics," but it still falls into the same trap.
The Nazis were initially supported by women. If it wasn't for them, there wouldn't have been a Nazi Party, Hitler would have been a fringe retard in the German Workers Party and we would have avoided WW2.
He often excuses Muslim terrorists and black thugs, because "women made them this way". I swear to god, he would cheer if he had to die like that, but a woman also died.
You don't have to put words in his mouth or make guesses about what he'd say. In a debate I had with him many months ago, back before I knew who he was, he actually admitted to me that he'd be fine with humanity dying out merely to spite women (forgive me, I can't recall the exact context of the discussion, but the point was made, and he was quite clear). I can acknowledge the faults of modern women, their role in the downfall of society, and the destructive nature of feminism as anyone else here, but TheImp has taken it waaay too far. He has occasional good points, but he's unhinged.
I make "guesses", because I have talked to him many times before and he always circles back to these autistic, weird ideas. Like I know what sort of retarded arguments he will make and I am tired of it.
Every time a man does something wrong, he blames women. Male politicians being evil? A woman is behind it. Male terrorists literally murdering people? Women in their culture are awful, therefore they do it. Male trannies physically abusing women, molesting little girls, being generally awful? Women turned them that way. Male murderer? Well, it's a feminist false flag.
Every. Fucking. Time. Every time.
I'm going to point to BLM and how women gladly caused racial division for their own gains.
And no, I don't think that's very likely. Only tinfoil hatted woman worshippers think that's likely.
man... i pity you.
The Nazis were "initially" an occult book club for rich kids, and started getting political when the KDP attempted a blatant coup in the city of Munich, and tried to secede to the USSR.
They would have been functionally nonexistent in history without the Bolsheviks.
Urge to purge rising.....
Right there with ya...
Australoids are a different subspecies as far as I know.
Even if you don't buy that argument for the rest of the races, abos are truly distinct from any other population on Earth.
Well, they ARE marsupials, right? I heard all Australian mammals are.
Monotremes exist in Australia.
i've never heard of two africans from the deepest darkest parts of the congo giving birth to ainu twins.
And then one day for no reason whatsoever...
Indoctrination must happen at an early age, before the mind has the capacity to reason critically and question and refuse the indoctrination.
Yuri Bezmenov was a former KGB agent in the Soviet Union. He defected to the West, and was given a fake identity and asylum in Canada. He began to notice communist infiltration of the West, even back then. Even though it put himself in danger of reprisal from the Soviet agents, in the 80s he began to publicly warn people that the communists were infiltrating the West, and they begin by taking over education. Once they corrupt the education system, it only takes them 15 years to control a country, since that's how much time it takes to brainwash a new generation. He also had some well founded and unkind words to say about the leaders of the West. Little did he know that almost all of them were already in on the corruption and subversion of the West.
Here's one of his interviews:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yErKTVdETpw&t=5s
It has not even been a decade since Obergefel. It's only been nine years. Nine years and now they're publishing and propagating instructions manuals to first grade children on eating ass.
Burning books won't be going far enough.
The scary part is that this doesn't suprise me. I went and got a beer with a buddy who's a teacher recently and he said that their administration seperated all the teachers by race and the white ones (including my buddy) were ranted at over "white privilege" and other shit.
Damn, wish I could have been there when he smacked them down, gave an epic "take this job and shove it" speech, and walked the fuck outta there.
ze nazis are burning books again!
based
This is a blood libel. Should the author of this gay porn book be sent to Devil's Island or Gibbeted?
once again: if i can buy it on amazon, it isn't banned. you are not entitled to having taxpayer money wasted to put your degenerate pornography where kids can see it.
and honestly arguing that you are just sounds to me like you making a case for your very public and painful execution.
They also like to conflate hentai with these porn books. Hentai is meant for 18+ people. While these porn books are in libraries accessible and probably promoted to kids.
The most an anime/manga has is fan service or euphemisms at most, not full blown porn.
Well yeah that's another conflation people do. They view the medium as its most degenerate expression. Kind of the same thing westerners do with the whole country when they talk about "weird Japan" and strange things from there that most Japanese people haven't even heard of.
I'm sure the left will have no issues with libraries carrying the full works of Jared Taylor.
I'm fine with pushing for Dr. Kaczynski in school libraries at this point. Let us really test the limits of free expression.
'A race of people invented the concept of races.' Cuckoo! Cuckoo!
The Irish, the Jews and Slavs would like a word with you.
This is backwards.
It was not 'we are smarter smarter and better than these people, therefore we deserve more'.
No, it was 'Hang on, why do we have so much more, and know so much more than these people? Why can we do things they can't even imagine? ...Are we smarter than them? ...If we're so much smarter than them... Is it a bad idea to breed with them?'
The white man did not set out with idea that he was superior to justify his actions. He set out with the idea that he was poor, only to find people who were even poorer.
The book isn't even fucking factual. Unless my understanding is wrong and someone can correct me... i haven't nor plan on trying it... the anus isn't the fucking pleasure center of anal... it's the stimulation of the inner vaginally walls and prostate for why people do it. The asshole is by design to not be that sensitive. Christ, they don't even understand their own degenerate shit. Or again, maybe I'm misinformed.
You are correct in that anal penetration gives no real pleasure by itself, some people may like the mere feeling of penetration but it gives no sexual stimulus.
The last image looks like shit you would find in pornographic artwork, this is abhorrent.
Also what's funny is the woke art may violate lolisho bans if the characters in explicit sex-ed terrorist propaganda crap were underage. I hate those bans because they spread false CP charges, but watching a woke freak slander the cops and the court because their stupid garbage met the minimum requirements for violating said controversial ban would be funny.
Also note how the text in the shitty sex-ed crap is retarded unprofessional garbage that conveniently neglects to warn about how anal penetration can cause incontinence and is effectively comparable to smoking!
In the replies, there was a mention of the inhumane trans genocide.