Does knowing that X is dead change how you view the plot? Almost certainly.
Does knowing X and Y had sex rather than dry-humping in an airplane bathroom change the plot? Probably not.
There are exceptions for everything, of course. I recall a scene in Borgias where the pope and a few of his cardinals had to watch his daughter have sex with her new husband to make sure the marriage was legally consumated. But stuff like that is exceedingly rare and most movies gain nothing from playing out the scenen other than the porn factor.
That is not a good comparison, it makes sense to show killing in a horror movie or war / battle scenes as it adds to the stakes of the movie but even then sometimes it is better not to show the actual death but have someone find the dead body while you wondered if that person survived.
For sex scene, is just porn and shock value, that was played out years ago by HBO so it holds nothing of value for me. And a gay fuck scene is even worse. Considering how available porn is the only shock it would be not including it.
There is also the fact that you can watch violence with your son if he is 15+ but there is no age where you would watch a sex scene and not be awkward.
Not arguing anything, I'm just curious why we're ok with that in general.
To clarify we're talking about explicit graphically depicted violence, not implied death or cartoon violence of the A-Team causing the enemy jeep to explode and all the bad guys are thrown out unscathed, probably.
There is absolutely no part of me that watches a movie and says "OH YEAH GIVE IT TO HER BEN AFFLECK GIVE HER WHAT SHE WANTS! THIS IS THE GRITTY DOWN TO EARTH REALISM I WAS HOPING FOR!", nor do I really care that much about intimacy beyond what might be briefly insinuated or given less emphasis than a full on fuck scene - I am really not that curious and don't ascribe "fun" to being the third person like some cuck in the corner in some drawn out shoehorned sex act. Most of the time my family is in the room, trying to ignore the awkwardness of it while waiting for the scene to be over but not wanting to make it more awkward by saying anything.
Most of the time I am left wondering who the hell it was for.
I can't account for or comprehend the kind of dicknose who runs this past his hamsterwheel saying to himself - "phew! I'm glad they affirmed the healthy intimacy of these two characters!". It's just beyond me and this kike is at the edge of his fucking seat "YES BUT WHEN DO THEY HAVE SEX?!".
"SEX SELLS BRO!" So did powdered wigs. I haven't cared about celebrity tits since I was in the fifth grade. There is nothing in it for me that a google search doesn't provide in spades.
My favorite important sex scene in film was in Twelve Years a Slave. It established the nature of chattel slavery and the relationship between two random slaves. I was drawn into the true reality of the Antebellum South by watching the fucking slaves fucking. It was an essential part of the film, and fun to watch! I'm also quite sure it was faithful to Chiwetel Ejiofor's original autobiography even though I haven't read that because reading is for nerds.
Anything that doesn't serve the plot is self-indulgent and gratuitous sex scenes are a prime example.
There are many things you can do that aren't directly related to plot that still serve it (character development, world building, misdirects etc). But there's a simple question you can ask yourself to determine of something is gratuitous: if I took this scene out, would any other scene be less impactful?
Unless the movie is about the way in which sex is had, the mechanical act is gratuitous.
I just don't see any value in explicit sex scenes. If 2 characters having sex is part of the plot fine, but showing it as opposed to referring to it doesn't add any value to the story. The only purpose is to titillate, and there's plenty of free porn out there for anyone who wants that. But god fucking forbid we want attractive female characters in games, right?
It's so stupid that normies want porn in their mainstream shows. People who want to see fucking should just look at real porn instead of wanting porno scenes jammed into random TV shows just to be edgy and try to titillate.
Just because Game of Thrones did something doesn't mean everyone should do it.
Also this is becoming super popular with gay shit, and it's gross. I don't want to look at dudes going at it.
Unless it's a really hot chick who won't do actual porn like Sydney Sweeney in Euphoria, I don't even want to have my time wasted.
Looks like Mr Burns had a point - "I took in a movie. An appalling little piece of filth. It's "leading lady" was a blonde harlot who spent half the film strolling around naked as a jay bird. Oh, just give the great unwashed a pair of oversized breasts and a happy ending and they'll oink for more every time... Call me old fashioned but movies were sexier when the actress kept their clothes on. Vilma Banky could do more for me with one raised eyebrow than an entire..."
Peaky Blinders was the worst offender of this. Way too much time spent on sex scenes when each season was only SIX EPISODES FUCKING STOP FUCKING AND GET ON WITH IT!!!
But we can have stuff that's fun to watch, makes sense, and ties to the plot instead of being a useless scene in a movie that does nothing and isn't tonally relevant to what's around it.
But that's beyond most movie makers these days, so just consooooooom.
I guess every generation has their version of "I just read Playboy for the articles!"*
*I actually did this on accident a few times, because some Playboy articles sans graphics were cataloged by the ProQuest periodical database the county library subscribed to. I may have even cited one as a source for a high school paper.
Didn't Playboy serialize some well-known sci-fi? I want to say a couple of Ray Bradbury's works first appeared there.
You can add that to the list of publications that were eventually debased by as well as participants in the anti-intellectual zeitgeist. Not the modern auto-fart-sniffing self-proclaimed intellectuals, but the habit of regular people engaging in conscious thought.
If you're looking for something similar to what Playboy used to be (but without the porn), Man's World is an online publication being published by some of /ourguys/ in the BAP sphere of the internet.
Same person will shun me for playing one too many visual novels with pornographic elements because it's anime and people who like anime all are pedos(meanwhile they are the ones who actually touch kids 9 time out of 10). Stop trying to interpret meaning into sex scenes, it's mostly fanservice and directors fapping to how great they are to put it in there.
Yeah, I've heard about intimacy coordinators. It's a grifter job because the role either requires a sex scene or it doesn't. Accepting a role with a sex scene is consent.
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Sex scenes should be implied and left for the viewers to imagine. It's always better in your head.
Infocom, creators of Zork, used to use this slogan: "The best graphics are in your mind."
And the second best will be produced by AI, and the internet will be flooded with them.
Wammin love to see people going at it. Right in the middle of their shows.
This difference is how each act affects the plot.
Does knowing that X is dead change how you view the plot? Almost certainly.
Does knowing X and Y had sex rather than dry-humping in an airplane bathroom change the plot? Probably not.
There are exceptions for everything, of course. I recall a scene in Borgias where the pope and a few of his cardinals had to watch his daughter have sex with her new husband to make sure the marriage was legally consumated. But stuff like that is exceedingly rare and most movies gain nothing from playing out the scenen other than the porn factor.
You said it better than I ever could. Bravo, sir.
That is a record setting leap. You're fucking insane.
That is not a good comparison, it makes sense to show killing in a horror movie or war / battle scenes as it adds to the stakes of the movie but even then sometimes it is better not to show the actual death but have someone find the dead body while you wondered if that person survived.
For sex scene, is just porn and shock value, that was played out years ago by HBO so it holds nothing of value for me. And a gay fuck scene is even worse. Considering how available porn is the only shock it would be not including it.
There is also the fact that you can watch violence with your son if he is 15+ but there is no age where you would watch a sex scene and not be awkward.
Why?
Not arguing anything, I'm just curious why we're ok with that in general.
To clarify we're talking about explicit graphically depicted violence, not implied death or cartoon violence of the A-Team causing the enemy jeep to explode and all the bad guys are thrown out unscathed, probably.
There is absolutely no part of me that watches a movie and says "OH YEAH GIVE IT TO HER BEN AFFLECK GIVE HER WHAT SHE WANTS! THIS IS THE GRITTY DOWN TO EARTH REALISM I WAS HOPING FOR!", nor do I really care that much about intimacy beyond what might be briefly insinuated or given less emphasis than a full on fuck scene - I am really not that curious and don't ascribe "fun" to being the third person like some cuck in the corner in some drawn out shoehorned sex act. Most of the time my family is in the room, trying to ignore the awkwardness of it while waiting for the scene to be over but not wanting to make it more awkward by saying anything.
Most of the time I am left wondering who the hell it was for.
I can't account for or comprehend the kind of dicknose who runs this past his hamsterwheel saying to himself - "phew! I'm glad they affirmed the healthy intimacy of these two characters!". It's just beyond me and this kike is at the edge of his fucking seat "YES BUT WHEN DO THEY HAVE SEX?!".
"SEX SELLS BRO!" So did powdered wigs. I haven't cared about celebrity tits since I was in the fifth grade. There is nothing in it for me that a google search doesn't provide in spades.
My favorite important sex scene in film was in Twelve Years a Slave. It established the nature of chattel slavery and the relationship between two random slaves. I was drawn into the true reality of the Antebellum South by watching the fucking slaves fucking. It was an essential part of the film, and fun to watch! I'm also quite sure it was faithful to Chiwetel Ejiofor's original autobiography even though I haven't read that because reading is for nerds.
now sometimes, w-well sometime... sometimes you get a PECULIAH buck~. Just downright peculiah!
Leftists love “theme-centric” entertainment because it allows them to enjoy stories that make no sense.
Muh Themes...
Anything that doesn't serve the plot is self-indulgent and gratuitous sex scenes are a prime example.
There are many things you can do that aren't directly related to plot that still serve it (character development, world building, misdirects etc). But there's a simple question you can ask yourself to determine of something is gratuitous: if I took this scene out, would any other scene be less impactful?
Unless the movie is about the way in which sex is had, the mechanical act is gratuitous.
I just don't see any value in explicit sex scenes. If 2 characters having sex is part of the plot fine, but showing it as opposed to referring to it doesn't add any value to the story. The only purpose is to titillate, and there's plenty of free porn out there for anyone who wants that. But god fucking forbid we want attractive female characters in games, right?
It's so stupid that normies want porn in their mainstream shows. People who want to see fucking should just look at real porn instead of wanting porno scenes jammed into random TV shows just to be edgy and try to titillate.
Just because Game of Thrones did something doesn't mean everyone should do it.
Also this is becoming super popular with gay shit, and it's gross. I don't want to look at dudes going at it.
Unless it's a really hot chick who won't do actual porn like Sydney Sweeney in Euphoria, I don't even want to have my time wasted.
Looks like Mr Burns had a point - "I took in a movie. An appalling little piece of filth. It's "leading lady" was a blonde harlot who spent half the film strolling around naked as a jay bird. Oh, just give the great unwashed a pair of oversized breasts and a happy ending and they'll oink for more every time... Call me old fashioned but movies were sexier when the actress kept their clothes on. Vilma Banky could do more for me with one raised eyebrow than an entire..."
Peaky Blinders was the worst offender of this. Way too much time spent on sex scenes when each season was only SIX EPISODES FUCKING STOP FUCKING AND GET ON WITH IT!!!
So you're just a pervert, then?
muh themes!
They can't understand a relationship that isn't sexual and they can't stay consistent for long enough to produce a coherent story.
These are the people that come into anime and manga I read/watch and call ANY close relationship with the phrase 'they be banging'
But we can have stuff that's fun to watch, makes sense, and ties to the plot instead of being a useless scene in a movie that does nothing and isn't tonally relevant to what's around it.
But that's beyond most movie makers these days, so just consooooooom.
Jew.
Because of course they are.
I see someone hasn't watched DBZ...
I guess every generation has their version of "I just read Playboy for the articles!"*
*I actually did this on accident a few times, because some Playboy articles sans graphics were cataloged by the ProQuest periodical database the county library subscribed to. I may have even cited one as a source for a high school paper.
Didn't Playboy serialize some well-known sci-fi? I want to say a couple of Ray Bradbury's works first appeared there.
You can add that to the list of publications that were eventually debased by as well as participants in the anti-intellectual zeitgeist. Not the modern auto-fart-sniffing self-proclaimed intellectuals, but the habit of regular people engaging in conscious thought.
I seem to recall something like that.
If you're looking for something similar to what Playboy used to be (but without the porn), Man's World is an online publication being published by some of /ourguys/ in the BAP sphere of the internet.
Same person will shun me for playing one too many visual novels with pornographic elements because it's anime and people who like anime all are pedos(meanwhile they are the ones who actually touch kids 9 time out of 10). Stop trying to interpret meaning into sex scenes, it's mostly fanservice and directors fapping to how great they are to put it in there.
Yeah, I've heard about intimacy coordinators. It's a grifter job because the role either requires a sex scene or it doesn't. Accepting a role with a sex scene is consent.