Don't know what's what, but Inigo Montoya has found his enemy
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Damn, people have described modernity as the beginning of “the post-truth era” but I guess I finally have to admit it’s here. Granted, if AI images are being used to spread agendas on social media, I’m sad to admit I don’t think that agenda-spreaders really need to go through all that effort. You can get half the world to believe what you want just by saying it in a snappy way and sticking the words on a picture of the Minions.
hell, even very online people will regularly fall for fake quotes/social media posts, the kind of stuff it takes 10 seconds to verify with Google. how do you verify something like this? especially if it's regime-supported propaganda?
You see it all the time in the news. How often some hit piece's sole source is an "anonymous source" or some unnamed "expert says".
AI generated images are just an evolution of existing propaganda. Instead of staging actors with makeup, they can now just use an AI. The horrifying part is how discreet it allows things to be. One of the drawbacks to faking things in the past is that the more people involved, the more likely someone is to spill the beans. With AI, very few humans need to be in the loop. It's the same perk as automating any other tasks, removing human error.
True, that was a lot of effort for it's worth
Free will is a myth.
Religion is a joke.
We are all pawns, controlled by something greater:
Memes.
Nanomachines son.
Man may be a weird gaming artist. But damn if he doesn't but big real ideas into his military espionage simulations.
The thumb itself doesn't look real.
The faces don't match either.
He has seven fingers. There's a pinkie growing out from between his thumb and index finger.
Looks like a fucking sausage.
Oh hey, someone else called it out similarly- "This thumb brought to you by Everything, Everywhere, All At Once."
Here is the original tweet. https://twitter.com/ninaism/status/1623273497479749632?t=N3FdvPzxMP0cnYnzHfdO6g&s=09
Archive
https://archive.is/1AYL9
Thank you.
Thanks. The tweet thread was very strange to follow.
This woman copied a picture of the original tweet - I don't know why people do that but I guess it's good she did because the guy deleted the original.
According to an online translator the screenshot says "These pictures from yesterday's protest are crazy and for once @OdieuxBoby didn't take them. Reform of. #Retraites".
Anthony @WebCrooner seems to be a fan of network security and AI image generation and has posted a lot of fake pictures as well as links to articles on how dangerous AI is and how people need to avoid getting scammed. On his timeline he deleted his tweet but retweeted tweets of people tweeting screenshots of his original tweet.
The next day he retweeted a story by @france3Bretagne. "Il génère des images via #IA pour #sensibiliser aux effets pervers des robots. Un Breton ouvre un débat qui buzz sur Twitter. https://bit.ly/40NaiHA #disinformation #AI #ReformeDesRetraites"
That link goes to an article showing how the pics were generated with Midjourney by a Breton "to raise awareness of the perverse effects of AI."
Twitter is fucking weird.
Is my comment above shadowbanned for some reason?
u/DomitiusOfMassilia u/C
Yeah, I have no idea. I approved it though.
So it was! For what it's worth I received no notification and it didn't even say "Comment was removed by this community's moderators".
Thank you.
No problem. Sorry I couldn't help sooner.
I can't find the original tweets, so I can't make a judgement. Those are obvious AI images though.
I can't find it, That's why I am posting the image and asking for help.
so it begins
I thought the 6th digit was on the right hand.
You have a point. But maybe he isn't right handed after all
Isn’t that a telltale sign of AI? Granted I know that a tiny percentage of people have 6 fingers
Not enough for police to make custom clothing.
That’s what I thought. Although I would guess 6 fingered people are at least at the same number or more than trans or “non-binary”
You gotta work on it a bit to get hands correct. The issue is mostly that AI just cannot learn the concept of hands since artists also suck at hands(me included, I hate drawing hands with a passion), you sometimes just do not see how hands are supposed to look in certain positions. I am surprised someone's not done an embedding with good hands or something but I doubt that would help much.
Thankfully inpainting or outright photoshop can fix most issues with hands.
My theory is that the AI has a single concept of "finger" rather than individual concepts of "pinky finger", "ring finger", etc. So it knows that 75% of the time it should put another finger below the current finger, but doesn't understand that there should be a pinky finger below the ring finger and no finger below the pinky finger.
I think one issue is that fingers are often obscured by objects or other fingers, so the AI would have to actually understand the scene to know how many fingers should be visible. If you only trained it on images with all five fingers visible it would draw exactly five every time.
Other issue is it can't do math. It can't learn there are no more than five fingers because it doesn't know what five means.
The fact his snout is showing through the "respirator" isn't a give away?
"My name is Inigo Montoya; you killed my narrative, prepare to die."
I'm wondering if the hands are a psy-op. It can't be that hard of a problem to fix, but now they'll have people believing they've got a way to find if something is fake or not at a glance. Also, you can cast doubt by releasing a picture with correct hands, or incorrect hands, to sow doubt over which was the real picture to start with.
Pretending there's a trick to find the truth just makes lying easier.
You have a point.
Reminds me a bit of 'The Capture.' It was woke, diverse, British, and the ending was absolutely retarded (so retarded that that's the only reason I remember the show), but brought up some interesting points. Seems very relevant now with the 'rise' of AI.
I haven't seen it.
The book needs to be slammed down HARD on anyone pushing political agendas using AI. The precedence needs to be nipped in the but with a fucking chainsaw and the land it was planted salted.
Interesting idea
How long before we find the man with two right hands?
He right there, my right hand man, my always ready and right for the job man.
Found the ACTUAL original, now deleted, tweet: https://web.archive.org/web/20230209084032/https://twitter.com/WebCrooner/status/1623253566763720704
This is an intentional but self-justifying hoax, wherein @WebCrooner made these images and posted them claiming they were photographs by someone else. Article in French about it here, even though French is a waste of time.
I tried to comment that earlier but the mods hid my comment for some reason. Though I didn't link to the archive so your comment is better for people who want to see the full size pics.
Thank you. I could find one, but not this one.
We are all passengers and Mr Bones says the ride never ends lol
What's the background story on this? Did no protests happen at all?
No idea, France riots to often for me to keep track.
There were protests but the pictures were faked by some online activist or photographer who claims he was trying to bring peoples attention to fake images.