But I am amused by the idea of some THOT busting into your garage to film herself doing squats. And then getting all offended when you try to kick her off your property.
You’re not the only who’s noticed it too.. Everywhete I go it seems like the concept of Modesty is shot now. Like I don’t wana see your midriff if you’re fatter than I am. It reminds me of 2 years ago when I was at a brewery with some friends and I remember seeing this girl in a pretty but fairly modest dress. It struck me as intriguing not because she was a 10 but because she was actually dressed in a way that was modest yet feminine and attractive. I mean wear what you want but don’t be surprised if people don’t approve of you dressing like a T H O T
Like I don’t wanna see your midriff if you’re fatter than I am.
Maybe I'm imagining things but I feel like shirts in the past used to be hemmed longer at the waist and now every shirt I buy doesn't even cover my belt. Even ones that are supposed to be tucked in have barely any material to do it.
For men’s shirts especially dress shirts yes most barely are long enough to stay tucked in if you do anything else besides sitting at a desk for 8 hours. As for women’s clothes (Ik because I’m a part time femboy yeah Ik) definitely without a doubt & it’s a challenge to find anything remotely close to being long enough to reach where your pants or skirt waistline would be
It does seem to be everywhere. I have been desensitised by it already since you see this shit just going out to shop. Whatever happened to looking normal?
has left's demonisation of normal interaction been designed to funnel men to dating apps?
No, it's designed to stop whites from forming relationships in order to tank the white birth rate. Why do you think these rules don't apply to non-whites?
it's designed to stop whites from forming relationships in order to tank the white birth rate
They already accomplished that by making Western women completely unsuitable for any kind of relationship. Even the betas are waking up and realizing what a shitty deal it is to date someone who's "had all her fun" and needs a simp to pay for her bad choices.
The "Woman Question" is truly the last frontier of basedness.
Any man raised in the west has been conditioned since birth both by his female relatives and by the subverted culture propaganda that one of the worst things he can do is question women's place in society and the "progress" that has taken place regarding their status over the last 150 years.
It takes a special kind of autistic personality to even consider the question, and a possibly pathological level of disagreeableness to conclude you are right when the whole world is screaming at you that you aren't.
if women can be taught proper values, they will make good wives
You are reading it wrong. The premise is that women can't be taught because their fundamental nature is anti-civilizational.
Only through patriarchal male solidarity, weaponizing the bitterness of older women against younger ones, and omnipresent social pressure against deviation can a civilization continue to advance despite womens' nature.
SFO starts with the whole gym thot that's week's old but explains it to how men are trapped in a one sided hell if they aren't religious or Conservative where they can't flirt with someone working, public and if you share the same workplace, even if it's a consensual relationship HR will be up your ass so it all seems to be funneling men to only one place, the hellscape of dating apps. While women don't have the same issue, they can flirt wherever with little to no repercussions.
Thought it was an interesting chicken or egg debate, was this the left's plan all along to force men to be on these platforms that would further demoralise them or was this an unintended result that just worked with their other demoralisation efforts?
was this the left's plan all along to force men to be on these platforms that would further demoralise them or was this an unintended result that just worked with their other demoralisation efforts?
The latter. They don't particularly care what happens to the men (or more precisely the non-Chads) as long as women don't have to be inconvenienced by gasp being approached by men they don't find attractive.
Which is funny since those 'Chads' don't give a fuck about them, will choose either the hottest, the most submissive or the one with the most money behind them and one night stand the rest if they even do that leaving them wasting their lives (especially if the men they would've 'settled' with don't care anymore)
Yup. We're going to have a cat lady epidemic when these women hit the wall and they find out that the guys at their level are red pilled enough to see how shitty the deal on offer is.
I’ve tried online dating and am thinking of trying again but my main issue with it is that it is great for women (rude and lewd messages aside) because even below average women get a lot of legit messages. I remember when I was on I’d get like 1 response for every 100 messages I sent and about half of those were scammers. Granted if it was reversed and women were messaging me like crazy I’d get a swelled head but I understand why men leaving dating sites much more than women.
I genuinely think the only reason why dating apps have as much of a presence as they do now is HR. When you work near each other, whether directly or indirectly (like you work in a more labor intensive position and they handle mail etc) you can build up a rapport and develop an organic relationship.
HR departments shut the door on that and the left has been demonising any other way you can develop a rapport in public. SFO mentioned himself that the religious escape this thanks to church and meeting through that so start believing in a god if you don't want a thot!
Just stay away from "reformed" sluts. They often go to Church to trick traditionalist men into taking on their baggage after they've been thrown off the cock carousel.
Were you more familiar with the term "born-again virgin"?
Basically, it's a term for used-up hoes pretending to suddenly be religious and reforming their old ways when they start to hit the wall, in order to grab a beta provider church attendee, while acting as reserved and reticent to engage in sexual activities with him as if she were still a virgin, rather than in the higher three digits body count that she truly is.
I mean if I think about it pretty much all of my friendships stemmed from work. Not necessarily directly, but friends of friends I met at work etc. If you can't pick up women at work, you're stuck with sluts and leftovers at bars and I always hated drinking culture anyway. Every other hobby I've met people in is very male dominated. So you're really right, it's church or online. Watch out at church too, the good ones get married young and stay that way so if you're not young you're likely picking up a lot of baggage.
There's a 3rd option: going overseas. It's not something that should be done blindly and you need to look at all the angles, but the pickings are far better if you know what you're doing.
That'd require staying overseas though. Not as much a problem if you're not in the US like I am.
In any case, I would look abroad to find a non-American woman but the sort that would have values close enough to mine probably wouldn't want to leave their home country. Dropping everyone you know and love to go with some American is a huge ask.
About 20 years ago I tried some of the dating sites of the time along with a female friend of mine, so we got to compare notes.
About half my messages were unread and the other half got no response, after a two months or so and maybe 2 or 3 I would pick on a give day. By the end of it, I got back two responses: one calling me fat (fair, for 2005) and one lore-dumping on me about how many problems she had. Un-dateable, but I figured I'd be kind and give her some words of encouragement since she was going through a problem I dealt with when I graduated college and I expanded on the similarities and how I kept my head up. Her response? "I do not care about your problems."
She sent no messages and collected about 9 or 10 messages a day. Some were flat out penis selfies, but she really had her pick of dates. At the end: she figured out she really was a lesbian after all, lol.
True. Well they are are always easy to detect. It’s usually a hot blonde who shows major interest. I just used the old “if it sounds too good to be true” logic
Have you considered going overseas? I know you're black and I don't know how that might factor into things, but if you're looking for something traditionalist it's the best way to go IMO. Western women simply don't have what traditionalist men are looking for. You do need to know what you're doing and you shouldn't go in blindly, but if you're insistent on finding a wife you shouldn't rule it out.
I’ve considered it but having worked in immigration I’m a bit wary because I saw a lot of guys who got their spouse a green card only for them to leave once they got legal status. But of course I only saw the bad cases. Phillipines had the highest rate of marriage scams. But I can look around.
This is easily avoided by hiring a good Viet or Filipino private investigator.
The good ones start at $700. That seems like a lot, but to 100% avoid being scammed by a potential wife? That's cheap as hell.
That said, any woman that you marry from overseas, you need to stay overseas with her.
Bringing her to the rot of the west will influence her because woman are hive-minded sheep. She will eventually turn into a westerner if you bring her here. A more pleasant Westerner, but a Westerner nontheless.
Yeah, it's definitely a concern. The problem is if you bring them back our rotten culture infects them. I personally wouldn't do it unless I was willing to stay in the country I found them, but I have heard of things turning out well when men bring them back here. I don't know how common that is, and I'm not aware of any statistics on the subject. But keep in mind I am a bit biased since I've decided to go the MGTOW route. I'm just going to go overseas for sex tourism lol. No marriage for me.
Be very careful with SEA women. I'm Viet, live in the US in a city with probably one of the highest Filipino populations, and I see a lot of Viet and Filipino women who are in it only for the green card. There was actually a murder that happened a few years ago where the Filipino wife and her secret lover were caught together in the university parking garage by the husband, who probably paid for her education, and he murdered both of them.
I would say that if you genuinely try to find one of these woman that shares your interests and values, you might be able to find a good one. And the good ones are ride or die for their husbands.
No, it's about trying to keep non-Chads from asking women out. They know that Billy Beta is far more likely to follow their retarded rules than Chad, so it serves as a romantic spam filter. One of the lies they tell men is that they get rejected because they asked the woman out in the wrong place/time or otherwise failed to dance through the minefield that feminism has turned to the dating market into. Women don't reject men that they would otherwise pick over this shit. It's just a pretext to be outraged that a man she would have rejected regardless had the audacity to think he's worthy of being in her presence, let alone date her.
We're now starting to see a demand for the state to deal with the "non-Chads" whose unwanted behaviour, communication and presence make women feel unsafe (feel is the key word). What causes offence in terms of dating is a man who believes that he has a chance with someone who sees him as inferior in terms of attractiveness and status to her.
What causes offence in terms of dating is a man who believes that he has a chance with someone who sees him as inferior in terms of attractiveness and status to her.
Social media has only accelerated the problem by inflating women's sense of attractiveness and status well beyond what they are in reality.
No, it's designed to funnel men into being perpetually alone and unloved to break their spirit. But sure, I guess being on dating apps could be part of that.
I think it's part overacting, and part actual mental illness. She's deranged, wants to be a victim, and hates - and may actually be legitimately anxious about - men.
Because you're trying to say that these people have legitimate concerns.
No, I mean you seem more deranged in general, not just to this comment. And how is me saying a woman is mentally ill me "giving her humanity" or saying she has legitimate concerns?
There is at least enough consciousness about this issue to stop other markets though since if even robots with basic chat AI we have now got sold they would probably lose everything
The fact that a lot of guys find those robots from Atomic Heart hot says a lot about how bad Western women are.....
Robot waifu? Considering we got the artificial womb tech for years now...biopussy could become a thing of the past if we actually got there and then there would be women crying for regulations.
The fact that a lot of guys find those robots from Atomic Heart hot says a lot about how bad Western women are.....
Islam is right about women
Man I miss the IOTBW shitposting so much. It was such a beautifully distilled demonstration of the logical fallacies of the modern left.
Why did it stop then?
It fizzled out like all memes do eventually
imagine the left letting something "fizzle out"
But I am amused by the idea of some THOT busting into your garage to film herself doing squats. And then getting all offended when you try to kick her off your property.
Worst part is you can't just use the hose on them as then it turns a tiktok video into an onlyfans video!
You’re not the only who’s noticed it too.. Everywhete I go it seems like the concept of Modesty is shot now. Like I don’t wana see your midriff if you’re fatter than I am. It reminds me of 2 years ago when I was at a brewery with some friends and I remember seeing this girl in a pretty but fairly modest dress. It struck me as intriguing not because she was a 10 but because she was actually dressed in a way that was modest yet feminine and attractive. I mean wear what you want but don’t be surprised if people don’t approve of you dressing like a T H O T
Maybe I'm imagining things but I feel like shirts in the past used to be hemmed longer at the waist and now every shirt I buy doesn't even cover my belt. Even ones that are supposed to be tucked in have barely any material to do it.
For men’s shirts especially dress shirts yes most barely are long enough to stay tucked in if you do anything else besides sitting at a desk for 8 hours. As for women’s clothes (Ik because I’m a part time femboy yeah Ik) definitely without a doubt & it’s a challenge to find anything remotely close to being long enough to reach where your pants or skirt waistline would be
Yes, and that is with higher waisted pants. I would probably start wearing a burka if we were returning to those God awful low waist jeans again
It does seem to be everywhere. I have been desensitised by it already since you see this shit just going out to shop. Whatever happened to looking normal?
No, it's designed to stop whites from forming relationships in order to tank the white birth rate. Why do you think these rules don't apply to non-whites?
They already accomplished that by making Western women completely unsuitable for any kind of relationship. Even the betas are waking up and realizing what a shitty deal it is to date someone who's "had all her fun" and needs a simp to pay for her bad choices.
They can't hold onto a job as long (semi-joking)
What a load of bull.
Says the guy who thinks women are sentient.
The "Woman Question" is truly the last frontier of basedness.
Any man raised in the west has been conditioned since birth both by his female relatives and by the subverted culture propaganda that one of the worst things he can do is question women's place in society and the "progress" that has taken place regarding their status over the last 150 years.
It takes a special kind of autistic personality to even consider the question, and a possibly pathological level of disagreeableness to conclude you are right when the whole world is screaming at you that you aren't.
You are reading it wrong. The premise is that women can't be taught because their fundamental nature is anti-civilizational.
Only through patriarchal male solidarity, weaponizing the bitterness of older women against younger ones, and omnipresent social pressure against deviation can a civilization continue to advance despite womens' nature.
No, they're just bad people. That's why they're the same everywhere from England, to America to CCP China.
'They're People'
Just listen to yourself, oh my god.
SFO starts with the whole gym thot that's week's old but explains it to how men are trapped in a one sided hell if they aren't religious or Conservative where they can't flirt with someone working, public and if you share the same workplace, even if it's a consensual relationship HR will be up your ass so it all seems to be funneling men to only one place, the hellscape of dating apps. While women don't have the same issue, they can flirt wherever with little to no repercussions.
Thought it was an interesting chicken or egg debate, was this the left's plan all along to force men to be on these platforms that would further demoralise them or was this an unintended result that just worked with their other demoralisation efforts?
The latter. They don't particularly care what happens to the men (or more precisely the non-Chads) as long as women don't have to be inconvenienced by gasp being approached by men they don't find attractive.
Which is funny since those 'Chads' don't give a fuck about them, will choose either the hottest, the most submissive or the one with the most money behind them and one night stand the rest if they even do that leaving them wasting their lives (especially if the men they would've 'settled' with don't care anymore)
Yup. We're going to have a cat lady epidemic when these women hit the wall and they find out that the guys at their level are red pilled enough to see how shitty the deal on offer is.
I’ve tried online dating and am thinking of trying again but my main issue with it is that it is great for women (rude and lewd messages aside) because even below average women get a lot of legit messages. I remember when I was on I’d get like 1 response for every 100 messages I sent and about half of those were scammers. Granted if it was reversed and women were messaging me like crazy I’d get a swelled head but I understand why men leaving dating sites much more than women.
I genuinely think the only reason why dating apps have as much of a presence as they do now is HR. When you work near each other, whether directly or indirectly (like you work in a more labor intensive position and they handle mail etc) you can build up a rapport and develop an organic relationship.
HR departments shut the door on that and the left has been demonising any other way you can develop a rapport in public. SFO mentioned himself that the religious escape this thanks to church and meeting through that so start believing in a god if you don't want a thot!
I think I’ll go that route. There are some single women at my church
Just stay away from "reformed" sluts. They often go to Church to trick traditionalist men into taking on their baggage after they've been thrown off the cock carousel.
I’ve never heard it referred to that way but Ive seen that behavior.
Were you more familiar with the term "born-again virgin"?
Basically, it's a term for used-up hoes pretending to suddenly be religious and reforming their old ways when they start to hit the wall, in order to grab a beta provider church attendee, while acting as reserved and reticent to engage in sexual activities with him as if she were still a virgin, rather than in the higher three digits body count that she truly is.
That’s the term I’ve heard but same thing it seems like
It’s an old “man-o-sphere” term. Pretty apt.
I mean if I think about it pretty much all of my friendships stemmed from work. Not necessarily directly, but friends of friends I met at work etc. If you can't pick up women at work, you're stuck with sluts and leftovers at bars and I always hated drinking culture anyway. Every other hobby I've met people in is very male dominated. So you're really right, it's church or online. Watch out at church too, the good ones get married young and stay that way so if you're not young you're likely picking up a lot of baggage.
There's a 3rd option: going overseas. It's not something that should be done blindly and you need to look at all the angles, but the pickings are far better if you know what you're doing.
That'd require staying overseas though. Not as much a problem if you're not in the US like I am.
In any case, I would look abroad to find a non-American woman but the sort that would have values close enough to mine probably wouldn't want to leave their home country. Dropping everyone you know and love to go with some American is a huge ask.
About 20 years ago I tried some of the dating sites of the time along with a female friend of mine, so we got to compare notes.
About half my messages were unread and the other half got no response, after a two months or so and maybe 2 or 3 I would pick on a give day. By the end of it, I got back two responses: one calling me fat (fair, for 2005) and one lore-dumping on me about how many problems she had. Un-dateable, but I figured I'd be kind and give her some words of encouragement since she was going through a problem I dealt with when I graduated college and I expanded on the similarities and how I kept my head up. Her response? "I do not care about your problems."
She sent no messages and collected about 9 or 10 messages a day. Some were flat out penis selfies, but she really had her pick of dates. At the end: she figured out she really was a lesbian after all, lol.
True. Well they are are always easy to detect. It’s usually a hot blonde who shows major interest. I just used the old “if it sounds too good to be true” logic
Have you considered going overseas? I know you're black and I don't know how that might factor into things, but if you're looking for something traditionalist it's the best way to go IMO. Western women simply don't have what traditionalist men are looking for. You do need to know what you're doing and you shouldn't go in blindly, but if you're insistent on finding a wife you shouldn't rule it out.
I’ve considered it but having worked in immigration I’m a bit wary because I saw a lot of guys who got their spouse a green card only for them to leave once they got legal status. But of course I only saw the bad cases. Phillipines had the highest rate of marriage scams. But I can look around.
This is easily avoided by hiring a good Viet or Filipino private investigator.
The good ones start at $700. That seems like a lot, but to 100% avoid being scammed by a potential wife? That's cheap as hell.
That said, any woman that you marry from overseas, you need to stay overseas with her.
Bringing her to the rot of the west will influence her because woman are hive-minded sheep. She will eventually turn into a westerner if you bring her here. A more pleasant Westerner, but a Westerner nontheless.
Good point
Yeah, it's definitely a concern. The problem is if you bring them back our rotten culture infects them. I personally wouldn't do it unless I was willing to stay in the country I found them, but I have heard of things turning out well when men bring them back here. I don't know how common that is, and I'm not aware of any statistics on the subject. But keep in mind I am a bit biased since I've decided to go the MGTOW route. I'm just going to go overseas for sex tourism lol. No marriage for me.
Be very careful with SEA women. I'm Viet, live in the US in a city with probably one of the highest Filipino populations, and I see a lot of Viet and Filipino women who are in it only for the green card. There was actually a murder that happened a few years ago where the Filipino wife and her secret lover were caught together in the university parking garage by the husband, who probably paid for her education, and he murdered both of them.
I would say that if you genuinely try to find one of these woman that shares your interests and values, you might be able to find a good one. And the good ones are ride or die for their husbands.
No, it's about trying to keep non-Chads from asking women out. They know that Billy Beta is far more likely to follow their retarded rules than Chad, so it serves as a romantic spam filter. One of the lies they tell men is that they get rejected because they asked the woman out in the wrong place/time or otherwise failed to dance through the minefield that feminism has turned to the dating market into. Women don't reject men that they would otherwise pick over this shit. It's just a pretext to be outraged that a man she would have rejected regardless had the audacity to think he's worthy of being in her presence, let alone date her.
We're now starting to see a demand for the state to deal with the "non-Chads" whose unwanted behaviour, communication and presence make women feel unsafe (feel is the key word). What causes offence in terms of dating is a man who believes that he has a chance with someone who sees him as inferior in terms of attractiveness and status to her.
Social media has only accelerated the problem by inflating women's sense of attractiveness and status well beyond what they are in reality.
No, it's designed to funnel men into being perpetually alone and unloved to break their spirit. But sure, I guess being on dating apps could be part of that.
If only.. if only they allow men only places again. They allow women only, but not men only.
That girl chanting "feral" seemed unhinged. WTF is that all about? Is she psyching herself up for her workout?
I think it's part overacting, and part actual mental illness. She's deranged, wants to be a victim, and hates - and may actually be legitimately anxious about - men.
Most sane modern woman really, lmao.
Why are you giving her any humanity?
You seem more deranged than usual.
Because you're trying to say that these people have legitimate concerns.
No, I mean you seem more deranged in general, not just to this comment. And how is me saying a woman is mentally ill me "giving her humanity" or saying she has legitimate concerns?
Cut it out.
How so?
Because you said she feels "legitimately anxious". You're justifying her actions.
I didn't say she had legitimate reasons, I said she actually had those feelings...due to the mental illness and brainwashing.
I really don't think anything I said could reasonably be conceived of as justifying anything.
But you do you.
It's a rare moment of honesty about how she sees a man below her attractiveness and status.
Got no fucking idea, seems like it's just a bit to play up the video
The most I do and I see other people doing when they workout (both men and women) are 1 of 2 things:
Counting for how many reps they are doing
Grunting especially with heavier weights
Saying anything is rare not the norm, usually happens when you have 2 or more working out together so you have a mini prep squad cheering you on lol
The really insane comment is "he's going to go to jail for staring at an underage 21 year old."
Not sure where this was taken but I don't think 21 year olds are considered underage anywhere in the world.
Dating apps have only been around less than 10 years? Men have been getting shamed for approaching since the 80s.
No, women's hatred just naturally created a scenario where minimizing contact was logical.
When there's a market, something pops up to fill it.
There is at least enough consciousness about this issue to stop other markets though since if even robots with basic chat AI we have now got sold they would probably lose everything
The fact that a lot of guys find those robots from Atomic Heart hot says a lot about how bad Western women are.....
Robot waifu? Considering we got the artificial womb tech for years now...biopussy could become a thing of the past if we actually got there and then there would be women crying for regulations.
Guilty as charged.