I’ve tried online dating and am thinking of trying again but my main issue with it is that it is great for women (rude and lewd messages aside) because even below average women get a lot of legit messages. I remember when I was on I’d get like 1 response for every 100 messages I sent and about half of those were scammers. Granted if it was reversed and women were messaging me like crazy I’d get a swelled head but I understand why men leaving dating sites much more than women.
I genuinely think the only reason why dating apps have as much of a presence as they do now is HR. When you work near each other, whether directly or indirectly (like you work in a more labor intensive position and they handle mail etc) you can build up a rapport and develop an organic relationship.
HR departments shut the door on that and the left has been demonising any other way you can develop a rapport in public. SFO mentioned himself that the religious escape this thanks to church and meeting through that so start believing in a god if you don't want a thot!
Just stay away from "reformed" sluts. They often go to Church to trick traditionalist men into taking on their baggage after they've been thrown off the cock carousel.
I mean if I think about it pretty much all of my friendships stemmed from work. Not necessarily directly, but friends of friends I met at work etc. If you can't pick up women at work, you're stuck with sluts and leftovers at bars and I always hated drinking culture anyway. Every other hobby I've met people in is very male dominated. So you're really right, it's church or online. Watch out at church too, the good ones get married young and stay that way so if you're not young you're likely picking up a lot of baggage.
There's a 3rd option: going overseas. It's not something that should be done blindly and you need to look at all the angles, but the pickings are far better if you know what you're doing.
That'd require staying overseas though. Not as much a problem if you're not in the US like I am.
In any case, I would look abroad to find a non-American woman but the sort that would have values close enough to mine probably wouldn't want to leave their home country. Dropping everyone you know and love to go with some American is a huge ask.
About 20 years ago I tried some of the dating sites of the time along with a female friend of mine, so we got to compare notes.
About half my messages were unread and the other half got no response, after a two months or so and maybe 2 or 3 I would pick on a give day. By the end of it, I got back two responses: one calling me fat (fair, for 2005) and one lore-dumping on me about how many problems she had. Un-dateable, but I figured I'd be kind and give her some words of encouragement since she was going through a problem I dealt with when I graduated college and I expanded on the similarities and how I kept my head up. Her response? "I do not care about your problems."
She sent no messages and collected about 9 or 10 messages a day. Some were flat out penis selfies, but she really had her pick of dates. At the end: she figured out she really was a lesbian after all, lol.
True. Well they are are always easy to detect. It’s usually a hot blonde who shows major interest. I just used the old “if it sounds too good to be true” logic
Have you considered going overseas? I know you're black and I don't know how that might factor into things, but if you're looking for something traditionalist it's the best way to go IMO. Western women simply don't have what traditionalist men are looking for. You do need to know what you're doing and you shouldn't go in blindly, but if you're insistent on finding a wife you shouldn't rule it out.
I’ve considered it but having worked in immigration I’m a bit wary because I saw a lot of guys who got their spouse a green card only for them to leave once they got legal status. But of course I only saw the bad cases. Phillipines had the highest rate of marriage scams. But I can look around.
This is easily avoided by hiring a good Viet or Filipino private investigator.
The good ones start at $700. That seems like a lot, but to 100% avoid being scammed by a potential wife? That's cheap as hell.
That said, any woman that you marry from overseas, you need to stay overseas with her.
Bringing her to the rot of the west will influence her because woman are hive-minded sheep. She will eventually turn into a westerner if you bring her here. A more pleasant Westerner, but a Westerner nontheless.
Yeah, it's definitely a concern. The problem is if you bring them back our rotten culture infects them. I personally wouldn't do it unless I was willing to stay in the country I found them, but I have heard of things turning out well when men bring them back here. I don't know how common that is, and I'm not aware of any statistics on the subject. But keep in mind I am a bit biased since I've decided to go the MGTOW route. I'm just going to go overseas for sex tourism lol. No marriage for me.
Be very careful with SEA women. I'm Viet, live in the US in a city with probably one of the highest Filipino populations, and I see a lot of Viet and Filipino women who are in it only for the green card. There was actually a murder that happened a few years ago where the Filipino wife and her secret lover were caught together in the university parking garage by the husband, who probably paid for her education, and he murdered both of them.
I would say that if you genuinely try to find one of these woman that shares your interests and values, you might be able to find a good one. And the good ones are ride or die for their husbands.
I’ve tried online dating and am thinking of trying again but my main issue with it is that it is great for women (rude and lewd messages aside) because even below average women get a lot of legit messages. I remember when I was on I’d get like 1 response for every 100 messages I sent and about half of those were scammers. Granted if it was reversed and women were messaging me like crazy I’d get a swelled head but I understand why men leaving dating sites much more than women.
I genuinely think the only reason why dating apps have as much of a presence as they do now is HR. When you work near each other, whether directly or indirectly (like you work in a more labor intensive position and they handle mail etc) you can build up a rapport and develop an organic relationship.
HR departments shut the door on that and the left has been demonising any other way you can develop a rapport in public. SFO mentioned himself that the religious escape this thanks to church and meeting through that so start believing in a god if you don't want a thot!
I think I’ll go that route. There are some single women at my church
Just stay away from "reformed" sluts. They often go to Church to trick traditionalist men into taking on their baggage after they've been thrown off the cock carousel.
I’ve never heard it referred to that way but Ive seen that behavior.
I mean if I think about it pretty much all of my friendships stemmed from work. Not necessarily directly, but friends of friends I met at work etc. If you can't pick up women at work, you're stuck with sluts and leftovers at bars and I always hated drinking culture anyway. Every other hobby I've met people in is very male dominated. So you're really right, it's church or online. Watch out at church too, the good ones get married young and stay that way so if you're not young you're likely picking up a lot of baggage.
There's a 3rd option: going overseas. It's not something that should be done blindly and you need to look at all the angles, but the pickings are far better if you know what you're doing.
That'd require staying overseas though. Not as much a problem if you're not in the US like I am.
In any case, I would look abroad to find a non-American woman but the sort that would have values close enough to mine probably wouldn't want to leave their home country. Dropping everyone you know and love to go with some American is a huge ask.
About 20 years ago I tried some of the dating sites of the time along with a female friend of mine, so we got to compare notes.
About half my messages were unread and the other half got no response, after a two months or so and maybe 2 or 3 I would pick on a give day. By the end of it, I got back two responses: one calling me fat (fair, for 2005) and one lore-dumping on me about how many problems she had. Un-dateable, but I figured I'd be kind and give her some words of encouragement since she was going through a problem I dealt with when I graduated college and I expanded on the similarities and how I kept my head up. Her response? "I do not care about your problems."
She sent no messages and collected about 9 or 10 messages a day. Some were flat out penis selfies, but she really had her pick of dates. At the end: she figured out she really was a lesbian after all, lol.
True. Well they are are always easy to detect. It’s usually a hot blonde who shows major interest. I just used the old “if it sounds too good to be true” logic
Have you considered going overseas? I know you're black and I don't know how that might factor into things, but if you're looking for something traditionalist it's the best way to go IMO. Western women simply don't have what traditionalist men are looking for. You do need to know what you're doing and you shouldn't go in blindly, but if you're insistent on finding a wife you shouldn't rule it out.
I’ve considered it but having worked in immigration I’m a bit wary because I saw a lot of guys who got their spouse a green card only for them to leave once they got legal status. But of course I only saw the bad cases. Phillipines had the highest rate of marriage scams. But I can look around.
This is easily avoided by hiring a good Viet or Filipino private investigator.
The good ones start at $700. That seems like a lot, but to 100% avoid being scammed by a potential wife? That's cheap as hell.
That said, any woman that you marry from overseas, you need to stay overseas with her.
Bringing her to the rot of the west will influence her because woman are hive-minded sheep. She will eventually turn into a westerner if you bring her here. A more pleasant Westerner, but a Westerner nontheless.
Good point
Yeah, it's definitely a concern. The problem is if you bring them back our rotten culture infects them. I personally wouldn't do it unless I was willing to stay in the country I found them, but I have heard of things turning out well when men bring them back here. I don't know how common that is, and I'm not aware of any statistics on the subject. But keep in mind I am a bit biased since I've decided to go the MGTOW route. I'm just going to go overseas for sex tourism lol. No marriage for me.
Be very careful with SEA women. I'm Viet, live in the US in a city with probably one of the highest Filipino populations, and I see a lot of Viet and Filipino women who are in it only for the green card. There was actually a murder that happened a few years ago where the Filipino wife and her secret lover were caught together in the university parking garage by the husband, who probably paid for her education, and he murdered both of them.
I would say that if you genuinely try to find one of these woman that shares your interests and values, you might be able to find a good one. And the good ones are ride or die for their husbands.