I mean if I think about it pretty much all of my friendships stemmed from work. Not necessarily directly, but friends of friends I met at work etc. If you can't pick up women at work, you're stuck with sluts and leftovers at bars and I always hated drinking culture anyway. Every other hobby I've met people in is very male dominated. So you're really right, it's church or online. Watch out at church too, the good ones get married young and stay that way so if you're not young you're likely picking up a lot of baggage.
There's a 3rd option: going overseas. It's not something that should be done blindly and you need to look at all the angles, but the pickings are far better if you know what you're doing.
That'd require staying overseas though. Not as much a problem if you're not in the US like I am.
In any case, I would look abroad to find a non-American woman but the sort that would have values close enough to mine probably wouldn't want to leave their home country. Dropping everyone you know and love to go with some American is a huge ask.
I mean if I think about it pretty much all of my friendships stemmed from work. Not necessarily directly, but friends of friends I met at work etc. If you can't pick up women at work, you're stuck with sluts and leftovers at bars and I always hated drinking culture anyway. Every other hobby I've met people in is very male dominated. So you're really right, it's church or online. Watch out at church too, the good ones get married young and stay that way so if you're not young you're likely picking up a lot of baggage.
There's a 3rd option: going overseas. It's not something that should be done blindly and you need to look at all the angles, but the pickings are far better if you know what you're doing.
That'd require staying overseas though. Not as much a problem if you're not in the US like I am.
In any case, I would look abroad to find a non-American woman but the sort that would have values close enough to mine probably wouldn't want to leave their home country. Dropping everyone you know and love to go with some American is a huge ask.