Imagine being one of the dangerously irresponsible countries like France, UK, and Australia who vote on voting day. Imagine the nearly criminal misconduct of Australia for having a national voting day, a designated bank holiday singularly for voting, which everyone votes all at the same time! IT'S MADNESS!
Thankfully, none of those countries exist, because what makes us American is that we are the only country in the world that chooses our political officials.
Imagine being one of the dangerously irresponsible countries like France, UK, and Australia who vote on voting day. Imagine the nearly criminal misconduct of Australia for having a national voting day, a designated bank holiday singularly for voting, which everyone votes all at the same time! IT'S MADNESS!
The European Union accuses Hungary of "undermining democracy" because... it extended mail-in voting, which it claims benefits the ruling Fidesz party at the expense of the coalition that includes fascists which the EU was supporting.
"Pro-democracy" and "anti-democracy" are synonymous with "pro-regime" and "anti-regime".
Then again, Hungary is interesting in the sense that we have a considerable amount of population that lives in a different country because of the Trianon ruling. They got back the right to vote in our elections.
No matter how you feel about it, it's a thing we have to consider.
I'm not criticizing it at all. However, it's interesting that the very same thing is "pro-democracy" when it benefits them, and anti-democracy when it goes against them.
They must be doubly mad if it helps expat Hungarians, since I assume they are far more likely to vote for Fidesz than for their puppets.
Oh, I didn't mean YOU minded. Just in general, the fact they got the right to vote without having ever lived inside current year Hungary is just a whole another question.
But as things are now, they can. To provide them with a way to do it is necessary as things stand now, one way or another.
France actually banned mail-in voting because they tried it and there were a multiplicity of cases of voter fraud.
France's electoral problems stem from it's goofy voting system. I'm not a big fan of First-Past-The-Post, but god damn do only the worst possible alternatives get used.
In the UK, their corruption comes from the fact the party hierarchy themselves are basically untouchable. It requires you to form your own party to actually change the 2 major ones. From there, the system is regulated so that although new parties can form, they find it impossible to get anywhere.
I'd actually bet Australia is not actually very corrupt. I think they just breed authoritarianism. There's a problem with national holiday, universal voting: it means that there's basically no difficulty to overcome the voting process. If you think you might want to maybe kinda vote, the political parties will basically drag you in. This isn't a problem for Democracy itself, but it does mean that the inherent problems in Democracy are now guaranteed: people uninterested in actually benefiting their communities now get to be used as a force multiplier for specific interested parties to magnify their political power. That's the problem John Adams and Blackstone pointed out.
That's correct. People can still "donkey vote" - casting an invalid ballot on purpose - but that's only marginally easier than just voting above the line and saying "my preferences are broadly in line with [Political Party A] so use their preferences."
The Cathedral's security apparatus has made sure we never have fair elections again. The burden of proof should be on the dupes or crooks who defend early and mail-in voting like this piece of shit. Assume the election is rigged and prove it was not.
Nah, it's just rigged to a degree in specific places. The problem with Arizona is the disproportionate power of Maricopa county itself. This kind of shit is why we need state electoral colleges. Beyond that, many elections are still actually fair. Ohio and Florida seemed to have no significant issues. We just need to use power to clear out the bad ones. There's probably only a couple dozen corrupt BOE's that need to be cleared out.
if your elections are not day of, in person, hand counted under observation, with photo ID, then your elections are not legitimate. It’s really that simple. Instead, we basically have a fucking honor system. We have cultural and political enemies who would rather kill each other than compromise, and we’re supposed to just trust everyone not to take advantage of the massive vulnerabilities in our voting?
I can accept some kinds of absentee ballots, but those should still be able to be handled within reason, with a strong chain of custody, including signature verification and address audits. Possibly not even mailed out, but just picked up at the local BoE, with the ballot printed in accordance with the voter's original jurisdiction, handed back to that local BoE in person, and mailed out to the voter's original BoE. Absentee votes can be done reasonably, but mail-in (really: mail out voting) has no reason to exist.
While the assumption of the average citizen should be thus, I don't think we want the law working that way. That is, reversing things and assuming guilt until innocence is proven is an incredibly dangerous thing to implement and I think it should be opposed as a matter of principle. Attack the malfunctioning legal system from a different angle that doesn't damn us all.
The "attack" requires ending mail-ins and early voting and enlisting bipartisan poll watchers at every polling place, observing the process from start to finish. Until that happens, I will not assume any election is fair, given the Twatter revelations. Also, reverting to paper-only ballots counted by the humble Scantron machine would help, as well as declaring a dedicated election day, one day only, a federal holiday on which people can be excused from work.
I try to remember that under a working legal system it's the job of defense attorneys to defend the indefensible, but this is still infuriatingly dishonest.
'You reap what you sow'. They're acting like Lake fucked up and has no right to complain. Guess what? It wasn't Lake they disenfranchised, it was THE FUCKING VOTERS! And he dares to talk about respecting elections while arguing that we shouldn't be allowed to question them and it's okay to botch election day and fuck over thousands of voters? With this fake ass, manipulative display of 'passion'?
And he dares to talk about respecting elections while arguing that we shouldn't be allowed to question them
Questioning elections is like invading countries, using cluster munitions on civilians, and every other conceivable bad thing: only they and their friends get to do it.
I feel like most attorney's don't know how to honestly defend guilty clients. If he's guilty, don't try to get him acquitted, get his sentence lessened or transferred to nicer prison. Don't waste all his money on a hopeless fight.
Unfortunately in this case, these ridiculous statements might still get more credit than they deserve.
. If he's guilty, don't try to get him acquitted, get his sentence lessened or transferred to nicer prison.
They can encourage that but the defendant still runs the show. If a guilty client doesn't want to admit it the lawyer has to defend their 'innocence', even if it means scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Much of our legal system has become a clown show, but scumbag lawyers saying scumbag things is ironically a good thing. It's a sign of a system that values a fair trial, or at least pretends to. Just have to hope Lake's lawyers are good enough to knock it down and the judge is smart enough to see through it not a corrupt piece of shit
I'd say he more over admits that even in his argument, the incompetence of Maricopa County is only natural, and voters can't expect the county to abide by the law, when they should just be changing their voting habits.
Brazil can do it, all of Europe can do it, the Middle East can do it, Asia can do it, African countries can probably do it, south American countries can, Canada can...
Is America in such decay it can't manage to have everyone vote on the same day? Especially since America EASILY did it in 2016...
I can accept some kinds of absentee ballots, but those should still be able to be handled within reason, with a strong chain of custody, including signature verification and address audits. Possibly not even mailed out, but just picked up at the local BoE, with the ballot printed in accordance with the voter's original jurisdiction, handed back to that local BoE in person, and mailed out to the voter's original BoE. Absentee votes can be done reasonably, but mail-in (really: mail out voting) has no reason to exist.
"Political malpractice...you reap what you sow...there should be a day of reckoning...this has been happening all over the country...it's gotta stop, and it's gotta stop right now...this has gotta stop..."
This jackass is 200% correct, just not about what he thinks he's talking about.
My favorite was when they used a professor from Wisconsin with TDS as an expert witness. If you're going to get an expert witness at least put in the effort to get someone who isn't so blatantly incentivised to use motivated reasoning.
There was no disruption in the election because CISA (the group that groomed Yoel Roth along with the FBI to prevent the Hunter Biden Laptop story from coming out and built the narrative about January 6 to Twitter) told me there wasn't any disruption. I also disproved disruption because I looked at a series of statistics that the defense team specifically provided to me. Everyone who physically reported disruptions are obviously liars or insane, regardless of the physical evidence.
They even argued that there wasn't a disruption to voters. They had an """expert""" testify who was a Leftist academician with TDS, look over some statistical data, and claim that any disruption to the election was disproven by the statistical data he was provided. Despite the fact that I don't think he even lives in Arizona, and everyone physically witnessed Maricopa being shit.
Again: the state's argument is literally:
The printing issue was caused by unknown people at 3 polling locations troubleshooting the printing issue. All the other places that had disruptions were caused by humna-humna-magic.
This was totally unexpected because it never came up in testing, but it did come up in all the previous elections.
There were never any delays or disruptions, and everyone is lying, including your eyes.
The Chain of Custody in Maricopa County is perfectly fine, and we can demonstrate this because we destroyed all the original evidence.
Voting on election day is irresponsible, and you deserve to have your votes miscounted if you do. [NEW]
It’s just so fucking bold. They used a (mostly self-inflicted) pandemic as pretext to implement widespread mail-in voting for just two elections, and already they are claiming that all voting should be done this way.
I’ve written this a few times across the dot wins, but it bears repeating here: if your elections are not day of, in person, hand counted under observation, with photo ID, then your elections are not legitimate. It’s really that simple. Instead, we basically have a fucking honor system. We have cultural and political enemies who would rather kill each other than compromise, and we’re supposed to just trust everyone not to take advantage of the massive vulnerabilities in our voting?
How dare the plebs question the sacred democracy! These uninitiated heathens cannot possibly understand the hallowed mysteries. Fortunately, the priests are able to divine the sacred sigils and annoint our leaders.
We've uncovered the mechanisms of which Maricopa commits criminal voter fraud: forcing ballots to be manually reviewed and duplicated, changing the votes (or removing the votes) in the offsite tabulation centers while having no chain of custody. Strategies can now be developed to counter-act that.
Maricopa County has been, once again, publicly humiliated. This will get to be fodder for actions within AZ politics to either pressure changes to take place, or infiltrate Maricopa to clear it out like DeSantis did with Boward County. If we want to play real smash-mouth, you start pushing for people and companies to move out of Maricopa County, so you can use it's depopulation as a weapon to destroy their economic and political power.
The public broadcasting of this trail can be used as a political weapon in the future to badger the establishment, and make the normies taste the shit they are being spoonfed, allowing for more populist blowback. This will make them more receptive to populist causes and activations.
He's not wrong to call it political malpractice, though obviously it's wrong to use that to justify the complete mess they made.
Not using the means available is unilateral disarmament. Use early voting, use mail-in voting, use ballot harvesting, because otherwise you will lose forever to people who have no qualms about using them.
"For there is such a distance between how one lives and how one ought to live, that anyone who abandons what is done for what ought to be done achieves his downfall rather than his preservation. A man who wishes to profess goodness at all times will come to ruin among so many who are not good. Therefore, it is necessary for a prince who wishes to maintain himself to learn how not to be good, and to use this knowledge or not to use it according to necessity."
Not using the means available is unilateral disarmament. Use early voting, use mail-in voting, use ballot harvesting, because otherwise you will lose forever to people who have no qualms about using them.
The problem is that I can't say that early voting is safe. In fact, one of the most alarming things I've seen from Richard Baris is that vote method is the single largest determining factor for vote, even more than party registration and age. I shit you not, from the survey's he's done, the Registered Republicans who vote on Election day are overwhelmingly likely to vote Republican. Registered Republicans who do early voting, are overwhelmingly likely to vote Democrat. Registered Democrats who do early voting are unanimously voting Democrat. Registered Democrats who vote on Election day, are slightly inclined to vote Republican.
That shouldn't be possible. Party affiliation should be more of a determining factor than voting method. I grant that people voting by mail are definitely are going to be blue-pillers who are "trusting in safe and secure elections", but Jesus that statistic shouldn't be that high. Registered Republicans should be at least mostly voting Republican in early voting. Instead, it looks like 80% of Republicans who do early voting are voting Democrat. That's not fucking possible. That screams that early voting may be entirely fraudulent. For Democrats, it's like 99% vote Democratic in early voting, as if literally no one voted for any Republican at all. But for registered Democrats on election day, it's like 45% are Democratic votes.
Those numbers shouldn't be possible in a fair system. I fear that if most Republicans engaged in early voting, the Democratic candidate would win by 40 points. "In an amazing turn around, despite only having a 40% approval rating, the Democrat incumbent won with 85% of the vote... Democracy!"
The problem is that I can't say that early voting is safe. In fact, one of the most alarming things I've seen from Richard Baris is that vote method is the single largest determining factor for vote, even more than party registration and age. I shit you not, from the survey's he's done, the Registered Republicans who vote on Election day are overwhelmingly likely to vote Republican. Registered Republicans who do early voting, are overwhelmingly likely to vote Democrat. Registered Democrats who do early voting are unanimously voting Democrat. Registered Democrats who vote on Election day, are slightly inclined to vote Republican.
This is not based on actual voting (where it would be impossible to discern who voted for whom), but on surveys.
So while I agree that early voting is unsafe, this certainly doesn't prove it. And you have to ask if the benefits outweigh the costs, as always.
I fear that if most Republicans engaged in early voting, the Democratic candidate would win by 40 points. "In an amazing turn around, despite only having a 40% approval rating, the Democrat incumbent won with 85% of the vote... Democracy!"
Everyone sees a lot of their shit. That doesn't necessarily equate to actual action. After all, Joe Biden is the most popular president in American history.
My god, the establishment is still pretending we're not in a recession.
They called the Taliban: "our partners in Afghanistan" after we were routed. Yes, mask off moments help, but more of them help, rather than the severity of the moments.
I've said it before. I still expect to see a mass casualty incident in America from the regime. I literally mean: machine-gunning unarmed protesters in the street. I still expect 100% of the MSM to publicly endorse it. I still expect tons of people on Twitter to celebrate it. I expect it to cause a major cascade failure for the regime, but only because it is the last atrocity they will commit on their way out. They will, have, and do, commit enormous and egregious crimes over and over again; but the crimes don't help us, only the repetition of crimes.
And when I mean machine-gunning unarmed protesters, I don't mean like what we've seen with Ashley Babbit. I mean Nicolae Ceaușescu style, Tienanmen Square style, or Apartheid South Africa style. It's why I don't suggest any Republican protest in DC under any circumstance. I am fully expecting a mass murder by the CHP. The fact that Nancy Pelosi called for M240's to be deployed on government buildings to counter an unarmed riot, despite everything that happened in 2020, tells me everything I need to know about the US government's desire to slaughter dissenting voices en masse. There'd be a medal ceremony for the shooters by the end of the week, and a ticker-tape parade for the shooting by the end of the month, if the feds had their way. Not even drone strikes on American citizens in the US are out of the question, it's just not likely for logistical reasons on the part of the FBI.
Everyone sees a lot of their shit. That doesn't necessarily equate to actual action.
Not 'everyone'. In fact, most people are not persuaded that the past election was rigged by 'massive fraud', and neither am I. Put it this way. Right now, the regime has legitimacy in the eyes of most people. If it became openly authoritarian and fraudulent, it would lose this legitimacy and the fig-leaf that it is supposedly 'democratic'.
Would that be progress or not?
They called the Taliban: "our partners in Afghanistan" after we were routed. Yes, mask off moments help, but more of them help, rather than the severity of the moments.
Well, they have no qualms about allying with Nazis or Al Qaeda, so are you really surprised?
I still expect to see a mass casualty incident in America from the regime. I literally mean: machine-gunning unarmed protesters in the street.
I do not expect that, for the sole reason that it would create more backlash than it's worth. Protesters on the right are achieving absolutely nothing. Why ruin that?
I still expect 100% of the MSM to publicly endorse it. I still expect tons of people on Twitter to celebrate it
If it were to happen, this will undoubtedly be the case. But they will not be able to spin their way out of that. Regimes have done such things in even more authoritarian states than the US or its petty vassals in Europe, and while you are not familiar with such things, once the regime starts murdering its subjects in the streets... something snaps in the population.
They may not leave the next day. But like I said, it loses so much legitimacy that it's not worth it to them. Why do you think even the Chinese are not machine gunning protesters in Hong Kong, even though these are the real threat to the regime that right-wing protesters never are?
It's why I don't suggest any Republican protest in DC under any circumstance. I am fully expecting a mass murder by the CHP.
If you did, then you should encourage them with the warning that this might happen. Because it would undoubtedly be harmful to the regime. Though I don't know what the CHP are.
Not even drone strikes on American citizens in the US are out of the question,
Well... those happened in the past, didn't they? You are not a citizen, you are a subject.
I agree with the lawyer that this BS has been going on way too long, and should be shut down in this court case. The election malpractice which has been going on for the last few years is criminal. Congress wants someone to indict on treason? Start with the person running the elections in the race she was in, and at best bungled but likely sabotaged the election so she would win.
Imagine being one of the dangerously irresponsible countries like France, UK, and Australia who vote on voting day. Imagine the nearly criminal misconduct of Australia for having a national voting day, a designated bank holiday singularly for voting, which everyone votes all at the same time! IT'S MADNESS!
Thankfully, none of those countries exist, because what makes us American is that we are the only country in the world that chooses our political officials.
The European Union accuses Hungary of "undermining democracy" because... it extended mail-in voting, which it claims benefits the ruling Fidesz party at the expense of the coalition that includes fascists which the EU was supporting.
"Pro-democracy" and "anti-democracy" are synonymous with "pro-regime" and "anti-regime".
It's pro my democracy.
Or in America, Democracy and Democratic Party Rule appear to be being used interchangeably.
Don't leave the regime Republicans out. They're the majority of elected Republicans at the state and national level.
Then again, Hungary is interesting in the sense that we have a considerable amount of population that lives in a different country because of the Trianon ruling. They got back the right to vote in our elections.
No matter how you feel about it, it's a thing we have to consider.
I'm not criticizing it at all. However, it's interesting that the very same thing is "pro-democracy" when it benefits them, and anti-democracy when it goes against them.
They must be doubly mad if it helps expat Hungarians, since I assume they are far more likely to vote for Fidesz than for their puppets.
Oh, I didn't mean YOU minded. Just in general, the fact they got the right to vote without having ever lived inside current year Hungary is just a whole another question.
But as things are now, they can. To provide them with a way to do it is necessary as things stand now, one way or another.
it's no longer interesting it's blatant
France actually banned mail-in voting because they tried it and there were a multiplicity of cases of voter fraud.
France's electoral problems stem from it's goofy voting system. I'm not a big fan of First-Past-The-Post, but god damn do only the worst possible alternatives get used.
In the UK, their corruption comes from the fact the party hierarchy themselves are basically untouchable. It requires you to form your own party to actually change the 2 major ones. From there, the system is regulated so that although new parties can form, they find it impossible to get anywhere.
I'd actually bet Australia is not actually very corrupt. I think they just breed authoritarianism. There's a problem with national holiday, universal voting: it means that there's basically no difficulty to overcome the voting process. If you think you might want to maybe kinda vote, the political parties will basically drag you in. This isn't a problem for Democracy itself, but it does mean that the inherent problems in Democracy are now guaranteed: people uninterested in actually benefiting their communities now get to be used as a force multiplier for specific interested parties to magnify their political power. That's the problem John Adams and Blackstone pointed out.
That's correct. People can still "donkey vote" - casting an invalid ballot on purpose - but that's only marginally easier than just voting above the line and saying "my preferences are broadly in line with [Political Party A] so use their preferences."
Yes there is a fine, which is fucking ridiculous.
"I choose to wave my right"
"ARREST HIM!"
"wut?"
"Oi cunt, 'ew evah played knifey spooney?"
I remember what my mother always told me: "Don't go around waving your rights around here, you'll put an eye out!"
Fucking scumbag.
The Cathedral's security apparatus has made sure we never have fair elections again. The burden of proof should be on the dupes or crooks who defend early and mail-in voting like this piece of shit. Assume the election is rigged and prove it was not.
Nah, it's just rigged to a degree in specific places. The problem with Arizona is the disproportionate power of Maricopa county itself. This kind of shit is why we need state electoral colleges. Beyond that, many elections are still actually fair. Ohio and Florida seemed to have no significant issues. We just need to use power to clear out the bad ones. There's probably only a couple dozen corrupt BOE's that need to be cleared out.
I second this comment by current_horror:
Okay, well imma quote me then:
You make it sound like that's a reasonably easy thing to do. It might as well be all fifty states with how they'll fight to keep their hold in place.
I never said it was easy. It's going to be a slog, but the corruption isn't universal, it's just systemic.
While the assumption of the average citizen should be thus, I don't think we want the law working that way. That is, reversing things and assuming guilt until innocence is proven is an incredibly dangerous thing to implement and I think it should be opposed as a matter of principle. Attack the malfunctioning legal system from a different angle that doesn't damn us all.
I'm just spooked by the prospect of jettisoning the principle of "innocent until proven guilty".
Anything that even smells like reversing that is a huge red flag for me.
the state itself is not a citizen and does not have the rights thereof.
The "attack" requires ending mail-ins and early voting and enlisting bipartisan poll watchers at every polling place, observing the process from start to finish. Until that happens, I will not assume any election is fair, given the Twatter revelations. Also, reverting to paper-only ballots counted by the humble Scantron machine would help, as well as declaring a dedicated election day, one day only, a federal holiday on which people can be excused from work.
I try to remember that under a working legal system it's the job of defense attorneys to defend the indefensible, but this is still infuriatingly dishonest.
'You reap what you sow'. They're acting like Lake fucked up and has no right to complain. Guess what? It wasn't Lake they disenfranchised, it was THE FUCKING VOTERS! And he dares to talk about respecting elections while arguing that we shouldn't be allowed to question them and it's okay to botch election day and fuck over thousands of voters? With this fake ass, manipulative display of 'passion'?
Go to hell.
Questioning elections is like invading countries, using cluster munitions on civilians, and every other conceivable bad thing: only they and their friends get to do it.
I feel like most attorney's don't know how to honestly defend guilty clients. If he's guilty, don't try to get him acquitted, get his sentence lessened or transferred to nicer prison. Don't waste all his money on a hopeless fight.
Unfortunately in this case, these ridiculous statements might still get more credit than they deserve.
They can encourage that but the defendant still runs the show. If a guilty client doesn't want to admit it the lawyer has to defend their 'innocence', even if it means scraping the bottom of the barrel.
Much of our legal system has become a clown show, but scumbag lawyers saying scumbag things is ironically a good thing. It's a sign of a system that values a fair trial, or at least pretends to. Just have to hope Lake's lawyers are good enough to knock it down and the judge is
smart enough to see through itnot a corrupt piece of shit"You reap what you sow."
In his eagerness to "dunk on stupid conservatard", he admits they were disenfranchized and it changed the election results.
I'd say he more over admits that even in his argument, the incompetence of Maricopa County is only natural, and voters can't expect the county to abide by the law, when they should just be changing their voting habits.
Brazil can do it, all of Europe can do it, the Middle East can do it, Asia can do it, African countries can probably do it, south American countries can, Canada can...
Is America in such decay it can't manage to have everyone vote on the same day? Especially since America EASILY did it in 2016...
Yes but it voted wrong in 2016, that's why we have to burn the Democracy in order to save it.
Voting on election day should be the only vote that counts.
I can accept some kinds of absentee ballots, but those should still be able to be handled within reason, with a strong chain of custody, including signature verification and address audits. Possibly not even mailed out, but just picked up at the local BoE, with the ballot printed in accordance with the voter's original jurisdiction, handed back to that local BoE in person, and mailed out to the voter's original BoE. Absentee votes can be done reasonably, but mail-in (really: mail out voting) has no reason to exist.
"Political malpractice...you reap what you sow...there should be a day of reckoning...this has been happening all over the country...it's gotta stop, and it's gotta stop right now...this has gotta stop..."
This jackass is 200% correct, just not about what he thinks he's talking about.
My favorite was when they used a professor from Wisconsin with TDS as an expert witness. If you're going to get an expert witness at least put in the effort to get someone who isn't so blatantly incentivised to use motivated reasoning.
There was no disruption in the election because CISA (the group that groomed Yoel Roth along with the FBI to prevent the Hunter Biden Laptop story from coming out and built the narrative about January 6 to Twitter) told me there wasn't any disruption. I also disproved disruption because I looked at a series of statistics that the defense team specifically provided to me. Everyone who physically reported disruptions are obviously liars or insane, regardless of the physical evidence.
I'M AN INTELLECTUAL
Pbbt.
That's not what we did for the Covid numbers. We just came up with the largest numbers we could think of while we were high.
Most of the defense's arguments have been.
They even argued that there wasn't a disruption to voters. They had an """expert""" testify who was a Leftist academician with TDS, look over some statistical data, and claim that any disruption to the election was disproven by the statistical data he was provided. Despite the fact that I don't think he even lives in Arizona, and everyone physically witnessed Maricopa being shit.
Again: the state's argument is literally:
It’s just so fucking bold. They used a (mostly self-inflicted) pandemic as pretext to implement widespread mail-in voting for just two elections, and already they are claiming that all voting should be done this way.
I’ve written this a few times across the dot wins, but it bears repeating here: if your elections are not day of, in person, hand counted under observation, with photo ID, then your elections are not legitimate. It’s really that simple. Instead, we basically have a fucking honor system. We have cultural and political enemies who would rather kill each other than compromise, and we’re supposed to just trust everyone not to take advantage of the massive vulnerabilities in our voting?
Rather, never trust the oligarchy.
use that ink that can't be washed off for like a week after too so nobody can try any shenanigans with fake ids.
How dare the plebs question the sacred democracy! These uninitiated heathens cannot possibly understand the hallowed mysteries. Fortunately, the priests are able to divine the sacred sigils and annoint our leaders.
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!
From a comment I made yesterday:
So, I see three small wins here:
We've uncovered the mechanisms of which Maricopa commits criminal voter fraud: forcing ballots to be manually reviewed and duplicated, changing the votes (or removing the votes) in the offsite tabulation centers while having no chain of custody. Strategies can now be developed to counter-act that.
Maricopa County has been, once again, publicly humiliated. This will get to be fodder for actions within AZ politics to either pressure changes to take place, or infiltrate Maricopa to clear it out like DeSantis did with Boward County. If we want to play real smash-mouth, you start pushing for people and companies to move out of Maricopa County, so you can use it's depopulation as a weapon to destroy their economic and political power.
The public broadcasting of this trail can be used as a political weapon in the future to badger the establishment, and make the normies taste the shit they are being spoonfed, allowing for more populist blowback. This will make them more receptive to populist causes and activations.
He's not wrong to call it political malpractice, though obviously it's wrong to use that to justify the complete mess they made.
Not using the means available is unilateral disarmament. Use early voting, use mail-in voting, use ballot harvesting, because otherwise you will lose forever to people who have no qualms about using them.
"For there is such a distance between how one lives and how one ought to live, that anyone who abandons what is done for what ought to be done achieves his downfall rather than his preservation. A man who wishes to profess goodness at all times will come to ruin among so many who are not good. Therefore, it is necessary for a prince who wishes to maintain himself to learn how not to be good, and to use this knowledge or not to use it according to necessity."
The problem is that I can't say that early voting is safe. In fact, one of the most alarming things I've seen from Richard Baris is that vote method is the single largest determining factor for vote, even more than party registration and age. I shit you not, from the survey's he's done, the Registered Republicans who vote on Election day are overwhelmingly likely to vote Republican. Registered Republicans who do early voting, are overwhelmingly likely to vote Democrat. Registered Democrats who do early voting are unanimously voting Democrat. Registered Democrats who vote on Election day, are slightly inclined to vote Republican.
That shouldn't be possible. Party affiliation should be more of a determining factor than voting method. I grant that people voting by mail are definitely are going to be blue-pillers who are "trusting in safe and secure elections", but Jesus that statistic shouldn't be that high. Registered Republicans should be at least mostly voting Republican in early voting. Instead, it looks like 80% of Republicans who do early voting are voting Democrat. That's not fucking possible. That screams that early voting may be entirely fraudulent. For Democrats, it's like 99% vote Democratic in early voting, as if literally no one voted for any Republican at all. But for registered Democrats on election day, it's like 45% are Democratic votes.
Those numbers shouldn't be possible in a fair system. I fear that if most Republicans engaged in early voting, the Democratic candidate would win by 40 points. "In an amazing turn around, despite only having a 40% approval rating, the Democrat incumbent won with 85% of the vote... Democracy!"
This is not based on actual voting (where it would be impossible to discern who voted for whom), but on surveys.
So while I agree that early voting is unsafe, this certainly doesn't prove it. And you have to ask if the benefits outweigh the costs, as always.
Everyone would be able to see it then.
Everyone sees a lot of their shit. That doesn't necessarily equate to actual action. After all, Joe Biden is the most popular president in American history.
My god, the establishment is still pretending we're not in a recession.
They called the Taliban: "our partners in Afghanistan" after we were routed. Yes, mask off moments help, but more of them help, rather than the severity of the moments.
I've said it before. I still expect to see a mass casualty incident in America from the regime. I literally mean: machine-gunning unarmed protesters in the street. I still expect 100% of the MSM to publicly endorse it. I still expect tons of people on Twitter to celebrate it. I expect it to cause a major cascade failure for the regime, but only because it is the last atrocity they will commit on their way out. They will, have, and do, commit enormous and egregious crimes over and over again; but the crimes don't help us, only the repetition of crimes.
And when I mean machine-gunning unarmed protesters, I don't mean like what we've seen with Ashley Babbit. I mean Nicolae Ceaușescu style, Tienanmen Square style, or Apartheid South Africa style. It's why I don't suggest any Republican protest in DC under any circumstance. I am fully expecting a mass murder by the CHP. The fact that Nancy Pelosi called for M240's to be deployed on government buildings to counter an unarmed riot, despite everything that happened in 2020, tells me everything I need to know about the US government's desire to slaughter dissenting voices en masse. There'd be a medal ceremony for the shooters by the end of the week, and a ticker-tape parade for the shooting by the end of the month, if the feds had their way. Not even drone strikes on American citizens in the US are out of the question, it's just not likely for logistical reasons on the part of the FBI.
Not 'everyone'. In fact, most people are not persuaded that the past election was rigged by 'massive fraud', and neither am I. Put it this way. Right now, the regime has legitimacy in the eyes of most people. If it became openly authoritarian and fraudulent, it would lose this legitimacy and the fig-leaf that it is supposedly 'democratic'.
Would that be progress or not?
Well, they have no qualms about allying with Nazis or Al Qaeda, so are you really surprised?
I do not expect that, for the sole reason that it would create more backlash than it's worth. Protesters on the right are achieving absolutely nothing. Why ruin that?
If it were to happen, this will undoubtedly be the case. But they will not be able to spin their way out of that. Regimes have done such things in even more authoritarian states than the US or its petty vassals in Europe, and while you are not familiar with such things, once the regime starts murdering its subjects in the streets... something snaps in the population.
They may not leave the next day. But like I said, it loses so much legitimacy that it's not worth it to them. Why do you think even the Chinese are not machine gunning protesters in Hong Kong, even though these are the real threat to the regime that right-wing protesters never are?
If you did, then you should encourage them with the warning that this might happen. Because it would undoubtedly be harmful to the regime. Though I don't know what the CHP are.
Well... those happened in the past, didn't they? You are not a citizen, you are a subject.
Those who get abused by those in power and whine about 'fairness' or 'hypocracy' need to read more Machiavelli.
I agree with the lawyer that this BS has been going on way too long, and should be shut down in this court case. The election malpractice which has been going on for the last few years is criminal. Congress wants someone to indict on treason? Start with the person running the elections in the race she was in, and at best bungled but likely sabotaged the election so she would win.
Agreed, we need more criminal trials for bureaucratic and white collar crimes.
Frankly, I think we could fix a lot of this with a death penalty sentence for voter fraud.
Wait wait wait, so ballots on election day shouldn't count but ones that arrive by mail after election day should?
Yup. They should have known better to elect people on election day. The fucking terrorists.
our democracy
Get your own democracy! This one is mine! I stole it fair and square!