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Katie Hobb's Closing Argument: Voting on Election Day is "Political Malpractice". "You reap what you sow." (twitter.com)
posted 3 years ago by Gizortnik 3 years ago by Gizortnik +61 / -0
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– Gizortnik [S] 43 points 3 years ago +43 / -0

Imagine being one of the dangerously irresponsible countries like France, UK, and Australia who vote on voting day. Imagine the nearly criminal misconduct of Australia for having a national voting day, a designated bank holiday singularly for voting, which everyone votes all at the same time! IT'S MADNESS!

Thankfully, none of those countries exist, because what makes us American is that we are the only country in the world that chooses our political officials.

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– AntonioOfVenice 18 points 3 years ago +18 / -0

Imagine being one of the dangerously irresponsible countries like France, UK, and Australia who vote on voting day. Imagine the nearly criminal misconduct of Australia for having a national voting day, a designated bank holiday singularly for voting, which everyone votes all at the same time! IT'S MADNESS!

The European Union accuses Hungary of "undermining democracy" because... it extended mail-in voting, which it claims benefits the ruling Fidesz party at the expense of the coalition that includes fascists which the EU was supporting.

"Pro-democracy" and "anti-democracy" are synonymous with "pro-regime" and "anti-regime".

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– Gizortnik [S] 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

It's pro my democracy.

Or in America, Democracy and Democratic Party Rule appear to be being used interchangeably.

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– NoGardE 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Don't leave the regime Republicans out. They're the majority of elected Republicans at the state and national level.

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– BulbasaurusThe7th 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Then again, Hungary is interesting in the sense that we have a considerable amount of population that lives in a different country because of the Trianon ruling. They got back the right to vote in our elections.

No matter how you feel about it, it's a thing we have to consider.

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– AntonioOfVenice 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

I'm not criticizing it at all. However, it's interesting that the very same thing is "pro-democracy" when it benefits them, and anti-democracy when it goes against them.

They must be doubly mad if it helps expat Hungarians, since I assume they are far more likely to vote for Fidesz than for their puppets.

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– BulbasaurusThe7th 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Oh, I didn't mean YOU minded. Just in general, the fact they got the right to vote without having ever lived inside current year Hungary is just a whole another question.
But as things are now, they can. To provide them with a way to do it is necessary as things stand now, one way or another.

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– ApparentlyImAHeretic 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

it's no longer interesting it's blatant

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– Gizortnik [S] 23 points 3 years ago +23 / -0

France actually banned mail-in voting because they tried it and there were a multiplicity of cases of voter fraud.

France's electoral problems stem from it's goofy voting system. I'm not a big fan of First-Past-The-Post, but god damn do only the worst possible alternatives get used.

In the UK, their corruption comes from the fact the party hierarchy themselves are basically untouchable. It requires you to form your own party to actually change the 2 major ones. From there, the system is regulated so that although new parties can form, they find it impossible to get anywhere.

I'd actually bet Australia is not actually very corrupt. I think they just breed authoritarianism. There's a problem with national holiday, universal voting: it means that there's basically no difficulty to overcome the voting process. If you think you might want to maybe kinda vote, the political parties will basically drag you in. This isn't a problem for Democracy itself, but it does mean that the inherent problems in Democracy are now guaranteed: people uninterested in actually benefiting their communities now get to be used as a force multiplier for specific interested parties to magnify their political power. That's the problem John Adams and Blackstone pointed out.

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– deleted 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0
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– Grumman 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

That's correct. People can still "donkey vote" - casting an invalid ballot on purpose - but that's only marginally easier than just voting above the line and saying "my preferences are broadly in line with [Political Party A] so use their preferences."

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– Gizortnik [S] 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Yes there is a fine, which is fucking ridiculous.

"I choose to wave my right"

"ARREST HIM!"

"wut?"

"Oi cunt, 'ew evah played knifey spooney?"

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