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Vox: Stop worrying about what happens if we let kids transition. Worry about what happens if we don’t. (cdn.discordapp.com)
posted 3 years ago by anonymous570861 3 years ago by anonymous570861 +67 / -0
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– CarmenOfSandiego 20 points 3 years ago +20 / -0

No transition: snapping out of the conditioning sooner or later

"Bu-bu-but, muh grooming victims! Won't someone think of the poor abusers who won't have anyone to 'educate'?"

"Sure, I'm thinking of them right now." /reloads

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– ghostfox1_ 25 points 3 years ago +25 / -0

A 2022 study published in the Canadian Medical Association Journal found that trans teens were 7.6 times more likely to attempt suicide than their cis peers.

Because they're mentally ill degenerates, and don't get help with the mental illness part, only enabled

Real hard to crack the case there

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– elleand202 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

worsening anxiety, depression, and suicidality.”

Oh no! Anyways...

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– GhostBond 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

A 2022 study published in the Canadian Medical Association Journal found that trans teens were 7.6 times more likely to attempt suicide than their cis peers.

Funny how it doesn't mention that post-amputations, this number doesn't change.

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– almond_activator 14 points 3 years ago +14 / -0

I think it might have more to do with the absolute horror show that is 'bottom surgery'.

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– Assassin47 33 points 3 years ago +33 / -0

The clickbait title perfectly encapsulates the philosophical problem at the heart of progressivism. Their entire worldview of past=bad/future=good is logically unsound. The past is recorded. It's history. We can see and judge past failures and successes. Somehow we've reached where we are today by building on the foundations of our ancestors, so the sum of whatever they did worked to some extent. We absolutely do know what happens if we don't try something that was never needed before - nothing. The Earth spins, life goes on. Progressives would say not fixing "mistakes of the past" is bad, but why is it something to care about if I'm here today and doing fine? Can you prove empirically they were mistakes?

In this case you can trigger faux empathy by coming up with all kinds of one-off examples of mentally ill weirdos and people "left behind" by society, but we didn't hear about it because it was a non-issue. It doesn't even matter whether you're a normie raising a family or some intellectual deeply concerned about the future of civilization: nobody is worried about "fixing" a novel social condition that was never something deemed worthy of fixing in the past. What we should worry about is progressive ideologues trying to fix society to cater to every individual's personal issues, because at best nobody really knows what the results will be, and at worst we can follow the trend of recent history and tell you very well how bad it will end up if we keep moving in that direction.

TL;DR these people are evil degenerates who say down is up and bad is good.

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– Ricky_CIA 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

Foucault, Marcuse and Gramsci mixed together in neo-progressive's minds has created an incredibly destructive intellectual toxic waste.

It's like a societal version of Drexler's grey goo.

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– TentElephant 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0

Progressivism is anti-civilization.

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– TentElephant 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Are you trying to reclaim the word progressive for its original WASP meaning a la Teddy Roosevelt and Wilson? Otherwise, progressivism is the correct term for the dominant ideology of elites in the west. Liberalism is effectively dead alongside the other 20th century ideologies of fascism and communism.

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– ItsOkayToBeWight 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

It's in the name: Progressive. "Progress is good. Only bad people stand in the way of progress!" Attempting to win via programming people. And it works. That's why we call them NPCs.

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– Smith1980 28 points 3 years ago +28 / -0

They grow up to be normal?

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– Indipendepede 28 points 3 years ago +28 / -0

Worse, they might go on to reproduce and live happy lives.

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– CarmenOfSandiego 19 points 3 years ago +19 / -0

First half of your sentence is enough.

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– cartoonericroberts 16 points 3 years ago +16 / -0

9 out of 10 desist. So yeah, from the left's perspective having kids grow out of it is apparently a disaster.

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– AbleistSL 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

that Jarred Fogle rape face.

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– APDSmith 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

Well, judging by recent information, it appears that if parents don't let their kids transition, people Vox no doubt describes as "brave" will transition them anyway

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– realerfunction 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

is that a threat?

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– Ricky_CIA 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Vox: Just shut the fuck up and let us sterilize and mutilate your kids. If you don't they may be SAD!

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– censorthisss 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Written by a tranny BTW

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– anonymous570861 [S] 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Archived sources

Archive Today: https://archive.ph/a5A5d

Wayback Machine Archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20220929164338/https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/23281683/trans-kids-transition-medicine-surgery

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– Guy_Incognito76 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Urge to fedpost, rising

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– dzonatan 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

I always wonder what is their excuse is for seemingly lack of teenage suicide up until late 2010s.

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– GhostBond 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

At this point any new "trans studies" are sort of like studies on stalins popularity - in russia, while stalin was in power.

The only people left are fanatics, and yes-men-or-women who simply publish whatever they're told.

Any reasonable people moved their career to something else, or stay very quite.

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– barwhack 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Sounds threatening.

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– evilplushie 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Fucking groomers

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– BrainJuice 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

How vaguely threatening of them.

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– SoctaticMethod1 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Reality of if they don't transition: " come on mom/dad, let's go play in the park!"

In their heads if they don't transition: Wir werden die Uber-Rasse züchten, um die schwachen feminösen Männer und die festgefahrenen Frauen zu vernichten.

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– BlueDrache 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Sounds like a threat to me.

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– You_Are_Based 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

BAD ENDING: you kept gay people away from your kid... and now it's the gender it was born as!!!

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– voidposter 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Not "let", "brainwash" or "groom".

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– AccountWasFree 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Desistance rates after puberty show that the vast majority will be fine. So yeah, I'm fine with saving the majority of children from predatory pharma seeking to make them permanent cash cows. And that's not even touching the suicide of non-trans people being pushed to suicide by urging them to transition under the lie that it will help them.

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– GhostBond 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

I've said this before, "trans" is women's version of rape. Men force their parts into a women, women psychologically dominate others into cutting their off for fear of offending them.

Both the "trans" people I knew where very clearly slowly tricked into it ("I think I'd be more attracted to you if you were more like a girl") or pressured into it to avoid his mothers man-hating wrath after facebook became he a thing. He was in high school, had to live with her - nowhere else to go. She had previously driven her nice guy ex-husband to suicide.

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