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I'm so tired of this nonsense being EVERYWHERE (also, Steam forums suck ass) (archive.ph)
posted 3 years ago by Kienan 3 years ago by Kienan +58 / -0
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– Kienan [S] 54 points 3 years ago +54 / -0

It's just some Russian gamer asking why he can't buy XCOM, Steam moderator tells him he can't buy the game because he's Russian, spouts some bull about MAH PUTIN, and locks the thread.

It's a shame; I like Steam as a platform but, man, they've let their forums go to absolute shit. Steam moderators are the biggest trolls and bad faith actors on the platform. It would honestly be much better with no moderation at all, with how these fuckers continually behave, across all subforums.

Also, fuck 2K Games and Take-Two Interactive. Continually pushing anti-consumer bullshit, and now banning Russians and the like too.

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– SparkMandrill83 37 points 3 years ago +37 / -0

All Jannies Are Cringe. The future of the internet needs to be that mods only exist to delete spam and blatantly off topic posts and thats it.

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– AntonioOfVenice 22 points 3 years ago +22 / -0

Steam moderators are the biggest trolls and bad faith actors on the platform.

Like Reddit, eh?

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– AnarcrotheAlchemist 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

You should see the bullshit now.

AEO is now a bot and is just doing word searches. Faggot, Retard, tranny are now getting auto removed by AEO and users getting warnings and bans. Its fucked.

We had the comment "Elliot is confused about a lot of things" (referring to Elliot Page whatever the fuck she calls herself) and that got removed by AEO and the user banned.Two users banned for one saying "your point was retarded" and the other replying was "no its not retarded if you can't read"

The shit is getting so soft these days. The site is fucked.

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– FuckGenderPolitics 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

To think Spez was supposed to be the adult in the room after they got rid of Chairman Pao. Never allow a tranny fucker to run a company. Just don't.

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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

AEO is now a bot and is just doing word searches. Faggot, Retard, tranny are now getting auto removed by AEO and users getting warnings and bans. Its fucked.

Oh, right before they got me for things they wouldn't even reveal, they were serially nuking innocuous comments for simply saying 'mental illness'. Even those that did not violate the secret rule (= troons cannot be mentally ill). Not sure if we were targeted on that one, or if it was universal.

We had the comment "Elliot is confused about a lot of things" (referring to Elliot Page whatever the fuck she calls herself) and that got removed by AEO and the user banned.Two users banned for one saying "your point was retarded" and the other replying was "no its not retarded if you can't read"

I guess that after ugly and mentally ill, confused is also something that 'transgenders' cannot be.

A long time ago, Bane said something like: these words are not banned, KiA2 is just too stupid to know the actual rules. I hoped he was right. Unfortunately, seems like it's now being broadened.

Without a law guaranteeing free speech online, there is no hope for anything.

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– AnarcrotheAlchemist 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

We are now getting comments that we have already removed being actioned by AEO and users copping warnings and bans.

So even us removing it isn't stopping the users from getting banned.

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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I remember, years ago, when the mods did not even remove comments they gave warnings for. Then they had to remove comments, or the admins would punish the sub and the user. And now this.

Like I told DoM: try to survive until November 2022.

Perhaps they will be more reluctant to censor when it can lead to congressional hearings and new laws targeting them.

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– AnarcrotheAlchemist 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I can't see it being recovered to many power mods and to many have been hired by the company that are deranged.

That this AEO solution was seen as acceptable in the first place shows they are psychotic.

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– computron 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Literally got permanent ban for saying tranny. The message I received was some blanket hate speech nonsense. I guess I just never considered the word hateful. I was commenting on the story of that mentally ill instacart driver who ran over the old couple's groceries because of their police-support yard sign.

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– deleted 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0
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– AnarcrotheAlchemist 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Anti evil operations.

Its the admin group that does all the speech policing on the site

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– TomSeeSaw 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

What is this 'buy games'?

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– deleted 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0
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– acp_k2win 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

It would honestly be much better with no moderation at all

It is difficult to have a forum that isn't a shitty experience for new users without some moderation. The regulars have a blocklist against disruption that a new account doesnt.

Maybe someday there will be some kind "web of trust" AI that everyone will run that will eliminate the need for human mods but that doesn't appear to exist yet.

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– CptLightning 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Whatever happened to lurk 2 years before posting? That's all you need for new users to acclimate themselves

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– mikhalych 28 points 3 years ago +28 / -0

What's the expectation here? that the guy is going to "join the resistance" because a videogame developper shat in his Cheerios?

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– cccpneveragain 24 points 3 years ago +24 / -0

I guess that's what they are stupid enough to think. Instead it will be just another pirated game. Software developers are really dumb to turn away paying customers.

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– TisDaRhythmOfDaNight 21 points 3 years ago +21 / -0

it's not that. they're assholes looking to bully someone, or losers with a desperate need to exact some infantile revenge fantasy. either way, current day internet gives them socially-acceptable avenues to get their dopamine rush.

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– Lurker404 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0

the guy is going to "join the resistance"

Oh he will. However, unlike in the delusions of these clowns "the resistance" isn't the side with all the corporations, politicians, media, NGOs, etc on their side.

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– acp_k2win 17 points 3 years ago +17 / -0

I just wanted to vidya, now Im a soldier in the culture war

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– Adamrises 14 points 3 years ago +14 / -0

They probably think Russia is some open "democracy" (lol) like us glorious Westerners. And that if they do this, these guys will go out and protest. And in doing so, show Putin he will be voted out if he doesn't comply.

Its the most self centered, lacking in real world understanding possible.

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– when_we_win_remember 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

It used to be like "Fuck dictator Putin, we support Russian resistance." Now it's like "haha fuck all Russians, long live Ukraine."

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– Adamrises 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

As is usually the case, the small nugget of logic that lay at the core of their actions is completely forgotten by their demand for retribution, revenge, and suffering against those they consider bad people.

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– JustHereForTheSalmon 26 points 3 years ago +26 / -0

Okay, so if it's Putin's fault, why can't this guy buy it again? Is this Putin's Steam account?

50 years ago my government experimented on humans with LSD and torture, then blackmailed congress to secure funding. Surely I shouldn't be allowed to buy a sandwich.

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– when_we_win_remember 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

That's a good point. If we held the citizens to account for every government's actions, nobody would be be able to buy anything.

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– AntonioOfVenice 16 points 3 years ago +16 / -0

Russians (and everyone else) should just pirate their games.

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– Lurker404 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

On a totally unrelated note: https://gog-games.com/search/xcom%202

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– WhoIsThatMaskedMan 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

I was gonna buy the xcom 2 collection for Android. Now, as a direct result of their virtue signaling, I'm just gonna pirate it. Don't even care who knows. I hope they see this. They're never getting a cent from me ever again.

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– tensigh 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0

It's a competition between them and Reddit.

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– Kienan [S] 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0

Probably is, I believe a ton of Steam "mods" end up taking more of the admin role, by Reddit standards, and I think there's a lot more of them, and they're more hands on.

Reddit, at least in theory, sits back and lets the sub mods do the actions. Steam mods just go around fucking every sub-forum up; they're a roving band of barbarians. At least with Reddit there are some subs you can escape to, at least mostly. On Steam, boy, you can't say anything even mildly controversial, or some mod will come along, whether or not the game devs want them to. It's insane.

I love the image lefties try to project, that Steam is some insane wild West where anything goes. It's incredibly restrictive.

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– Assassin47 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

that Steam is some insane wild West where anything goes

That applies to the store as well, and it's not just lefties spreading that nonsense. I'll often see people here or on c/Gaming saying "They USED to be strict but you can buy hardcore porn games on Steam now, anything goes". I can name a dozen banned games. Not saying they shouldn't have the right to sell what they want, but acting like it's a wild west is far from the truth.

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– mikhalych 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Rules aren't actively enforced, but piss off someone who knows someone, and you'll get nuked from orbit. Sounds like the wild west to me.

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– realerfunction 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

nah ask tony or hat about how many comments the shadow trannies went for

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– deleted 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0
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– Adamrises 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

The part I like is the very specific "war of aggression" phrase. Something that was minimally used or heard of prior, but now every single person uses to describe it.

Proof as always that the NPC meme wasn't just a joke.

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– SoctaticMethod1 11 points 3 years ago +11 / -0

I'd be more concerned about someone from China buying Plague Inc than stopping all Russians buying video games, you've just made it more enticing and might have embedded it into their culture to always pirate from the West as they will deny you even when you had no say.

I'm just taking note of everyone and every company doing measures like this as I wouldn't be surprised if they start seeing profit and market loss since they are more focused on virtue signalling than, I don't know, treating every customer equally if they haven't personally transgressed on you.

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– Assassin47 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

might have embedded it into their culture to always pirate from the West

It already had been from Soviet days and previous "sanctions". Almost every mid-size company openly uses pirated versions of Windows and Office. It was starting to get better with more trade with Russia and integrating them into the global economy, but we sure put the lid on that. Good job America.

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– SparkMandrill83 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

I wonder how many of these guys are bots and how many are pedos/rapists/sex pests who do it for free.

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– deleted 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0
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– rantanon9145 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Customer: Why cant i spend money on your franchise?

Mod: PUTIN BAD FUCK OFF RUSKIE

Brilliant, absolutely brilliant.

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– Sgt_Thundercok 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

You had me at "Steam forums suck ass".

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– SeproDep 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Ew, paying for digital goods.

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– elleand202 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

That mod is retarded but western sanctions have cut off payment processing anyways so even if Steam wanted to sell the game to this guy, there's no way to do so. A non-stupid answer would be to tell the Russian to chance their location to somewhere not Russia and then use a non-Russian payment method.

Also, was this Russian living off the grid in Siberia for the last six months? How are they unaware of the western sanctions against their country?

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– Kienan [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Also, was this Russian living off the grid in Siberia for the last six months? How are they unaware of the western sanctions against their country?

He just wanted to play vidya. And for all I know he's like fifteen and retarded, or something; plenty of people on Steam meet that definition. Also, you might know something logically, but still be surprised when you run into it; the dude's literally asking where the "Buy" button is.

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– deleted 36 points 3 years ago +36 / -0
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– GimmeFuelGimmeFire 25 points 3 years ago +25 / -0

"Those who make buying games and anime impossible will make piracy inevitable." — JFK

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– Lurker404 24 points 3 years ago +24 / -0

I was pretty anti-piracy

I was too because I believed developers deserved to be paid. Then developers became massive assholes who constantly insulted me, pushed agendas and even straight up told me not to buy their products if I don't like their tantrums. So now I've save a lot of money by taking up sailing.

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– AnotherSchwarzesMark 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

Depends on the dev. Some deserve support, especially if they defend freedom of speech. Some deserve the boot, not even worth pirating some games nowadays.

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– acp_k2win 14 points 3 years ago +14 / -0

30 years ago I was pretty anti-piracy

I was also because I had just read Atlas Shrugged.

But my mind was changed by the argument that intellectual property was misnamed, and should be called "imaginary property" because real property is something that can be deprived of.

If someone steals my chair I don't have a place to sit. If someone conjures a duplicate of my chair then I haven't lost anything, I still have a place to sit.

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– Kienan [S] 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

Yup. Not getting into whether digital piracy is good or justified, but one thing it certainly isn't is, specifically, theft.

At worst someone lost some potential profit, which is completely different. And even that argument has some holes, as often the people pirating would not be buying the games anyway, and some people buy games they like even after pirating them. Again, not saying piracy is good or bad, but even the argument that it cuts that far into potential profits isn't as clear as it may seem.

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– LauriThorne 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

They haven't even lost any profit because the person who pirates your game was never going to buy it in the first place the vast majority of the time.

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