At the same time these screeching retards claim they're the party of science, democracy, decency and whatever other word they decide to bastardize that day in between throwing hissy fits.
If you look at the ESG of Stakeholder Capitalism, if you look at the SDG of UN's Agenda 2030, they believe it's for the public good. They're narcissists who believe that only if they're in complete control, the world will be a better place.
This bunch fundamentally believe that as a mere citizen you are simply too stupid to act in your own best interests and that, because of this, you must surrender your decision making capabilities to the state or it's agents. Willingly or not.
Nothing highlights this ignorance like Twitter's hand-selected top reply claiming:
Now the citizens of Orlando get to foot the bill, including being on the hook for Disney’s $2billion dollar bond coming due. Congratulations to culture war republicans, round of applause on the tax raises
They literally think a corporate bond would have to be paid out by taxpayers.
How do these people eat breakfast cereal without accidentally burning down their pod apartments every day?
It's not 2 billion, and it's not coming due all at once. They haven't had issues making debt service payments, I don't see why that would change with the handover. Actual misinformation being spread as a leftist cope.
There's Disney the company and Reedy Creek Improvement District the governing body. He said Disney if he really means RCID then, yeah, that's a different story but not really.
If there are muni bonds maturing, and RCID issued them, the RCID needs to cough it up. Orange and Ocela counties will likely sue if RCID wants to dump it on them and I honestly don't see a state judge ruling that a municipality that didn't benefit from the issuance is on the hook for paying it back.
The tl;dr here is that Disney is going to (over the next several years) likely have to pay more in taxes because they decided to get political... while everything else stays roughly the same.
Disney can't just abandon the theme parks, so Florida has the high ground in these negotiations.
If you actually read what it was, it was way more than just tax breaks and frankly, anyone should be appalled Disney had that much power. They literally formed Government over their land, could issue permits themselves, control zoning, and basically performed all the duties of Congress and City Governments over their own land.
They were essentially, an autonomous zone, under corporate power. Dystopia stuff. And the Dems are screeching that this is coming to an end somehow.
It's their ideal form of government. One giant, authoritarian machine, that they get to control.
Haven't you noticed that whenever you try and convince a population to go socialist it never quite works?
About the only "successful" (if it's not obscene to use that phrase in this context) implementations of socialism have been when a very small group of people are convinced to impose it upon the rest of their population.
Florida has Disney by the balls here. Disney World is Disney’s most profitable park. It’s not like they can up and move easily, and even if they did, there are very few places in the US where it would make sense to have the park.
It’s weird to see republicans wielding power against a corporation. Normally republicans think the only correct uses for government are sending foreign aid to Israel and cutting corporate taxes. Everything else is “big government” which is bad
I can get behind a Republican reversion away from corporate dicksucking and back toward Teddy Roosevelt. It'd mark another big step in the GOP's natural evolution toward becoming a properly right-wing populist party while the Dems continue to slide down the rainbow road to advocating completely welding corporations and the state together, anyway.
A lot of it probably stems from Disney saying they will fight a bill they passed. If the people elect a government that passes laws the people want, but a corporation can overturn it, who is governing at that point? The government elected by the people or the corporation. All the mouse had to do is stay quiet
The whole Musk-Twitter thing shows that it's not about money for them. It's about control. I wouldn't be surprised if they'd burn all of Disney down to spite conservatives, and I'm ok with that.
DeSantis is evidently suppressing his Republican urges. He seems to have been genuinely offended by the USG's handling of the coof and by the pedo trend in public schooling.
I think he'd make an OK President, but that's a job I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy and being a Floridian, it's in my interest that he stay on as Governor indefinitely.
No you can't heckin' take away a global megacorps special autonomy that they only have because they were going to build a self contained community but then abandoned the idea decades ago!
Not to pick nits, but it should have happened back when Walt died and the powers that be at the house of the mouse decided to turn the land into EPCOT instead of the actual company city that Walt had envisioned. The state was too busy counting the money rolling in and gargling Disney corporate's balls to actually look at the groomer shit that was being pulled even back in the day.
Better late than never. It's interesting how the original vision of EPCOT actually is very similar to the vision of the great reset. It was essentially "you'll own nothing and be happy."
Walt, all in all, was a consummate Futurist (and idealist), and I feel like his take on it was more of a utopian thing - people working for the company that owned the community, and the company providing for the people, in a non-antagonistic, mutually beneficial way. Sort of a corporate arcology but without the dystopian aspects to it. Now, we all know that would never work in the long run, because people inevitably find some way to fuck it up, but I can see what he was aiming at.
Flash forward, and we have the rainbow-haired brigade wanting us all to live in pods, own nothing, and subsist on insects and mealworms. Something definitely went wrong between Point A and Point B.
"ThIs Is JuSt PoLiTiCaL rEvEnGe FoR dIsAgReEiNg WiTh ThE gOvErNmEnT!!!"
Like weaponizing the IRS against conservative groups, like pulling SpaceX's permits "for review" after the coup, like impeaching a private citizen when he's out of office, that sort of revenge?
She's saying "What about my kickbacks? What about my personal enrichment? I was put here to keep this from happening, what about my kneecaps? DON'T YOU CARE ABOUT ME?!"
Literally zero chance of this passing, citizens that live there have to vote on this and no chance they're going to want this tax increase put on them.
Even after the governor signs it, 2/3 of the residents in the RCID have to vote to approve it. Since they are mostly Disney employees and taxpayers in those counties, they're going to be on the hook for all the services Disney has been paying for. Roads, sewers all that infrastructure is not cheap and will transfer to the resident taxes.
Well I didn't downvote you and I'm not saying I disbelieve you right off the bat, but do you have a source for that? This is literally the first time I've heard of the RCID being able to resist its own dissolution by the state gov't and I can't find this anywhere else.
MSM sources like this one say that Disney will probably try to fight this out in the courts rather than by popular vote, and Democratic state legislators are saying that Disney is more powerful than DeSantis (lul, but they're totally gonna fight the megacorps in the RCI if the poor would but vote for them) - not that the voters in the RCID themselves can stop this.
At the same time these screeching retards claim they're the party of science, democracy, decency and whatever other word they decide to bastardize that day in between throwing hissy fits.
fascism. They're defending fascism. The merger of state and corporation. Making all rights the state's, and the only freedom is in serving the state.
Fascism at least attempts to utilize private entities for the public good. This is just socialism/cronyism.
If you look at the ESG of Stakeholder Capitalism, if you look at the SDG of UN's Agenda 2030, they believe it's for the public good. They're narcissists who believe that only if they're in complete control, the world will be a better place.
This bunch fundamentally believe that as a mere citizen you are simply too stupid to act in your own best interests and that, because of this, you must surrender your decision making capabilities to the state or it's agents. Willingly or not.
At it's core, it's an argument from authority.
100%
It's not capitalist. It's converged. Socialism has no problem with large business entities so long as they are controlled by their ideology.
Nothing highlights this ignorance like Twitter's hand-selected top reply claiming:
They literally think a corporate bond would have to be paid out by taxpayers.
How do these people eat breakfast cereal without accidentally burning down their pod apartments every day?
It's not 2 billion, and it's not coming due all at once. They haven't had issues making debt service payments, I don't see why that would change with the handover. Actual misinformation being spread as a leftist cope.
There's Disney the company and Reedy Creek Improvement District the governing body. He said Disney if he really means RCID then, yeah, that's a different story but not really.
If there are muni bonds maturing, and RCID issued them, the RCID needs to cough it up. Orange and Ocela counties will likely sue if RCID wants to dump it on them and I honestly don't see a state judge ruling that a municipality that didn't benefit from the issuance is on the hook for paying it back.
The tl;dr here is that Disney is going to (over the next several years) likely have to pay more in taxes because they decided to get political... while everything else stays roughly the same.
Disney can't just abandon the theme parks, so Florida has the high ground in these negotiations.
The bonds are secured by a lien on the property taxes. If the property taxes no longer exist, they might be able to default on the bonds.
"Eat the rich"
"No, not like that"
Take note people, this is what populism can achieve. The real question is how long before the fed steps all over it.
What's Podesta's motive?
Link with more info on this?
Well, it takes effect in Summer 2023 so we got a year. But, hopefully if it triggers Disney's stock to keep dropping it may wake some of them up.
Now awaiting Hawaii judge to rule that Florida canceling tax breaks is unconstitutional.
If you actually read what it was, it was way more than just tax breaks and frankly, anyone should be appalled Disney had that much power. They literally formed Government over their land, could issue permits themselves, control zoning, and basically performed all the duties of Congress and City Governments over their own land.
They were essentially, an autonomous zone, under corporate power. Dystopia stuff. And the Dems are screeching that this is coming to an end somehow.
It's their ideal form of government. One giant, authoritarian machine, that they get to control.
Haven't you noticed that whenever you try and convince a population to go socialist it never quite works?
About the only "successful" (if it's not obscene to use that phrase in this context) implementations of socialism have been when a very small group of people are convinced to impose it upon the rest of their population.
WHAT THE FUCK I CAN'T BELIEVE IT REALLY HAPPENED
FUCK THE MOUSE
FUCK DISNEYS AND GROOMERS
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Florida has Disney by the balls here. Disney World is Disney’s most profitable park. It’s not like they can up and move easily, and even if they did, there are very few places in the US where it would make sense to have the park.
It’s weird to see republicans wielding power against a corporation. Normally republicans think the only correct uses for government are sending foreign aid to Israel and cutting corporate taxes. Everything else is “big government” which is bad
I can get behind a Republican reversion away from corporate dicksucking and back toward Teddy Roosevelt. It'd mark another big step in the GOP's natural evolution toward becoming a properly right-wing populist party while the Dems continue to slide down the rainbow road to advocating completely welding corporations and the state together, anyway.
A lot of it probably stems from Disney saying they will fight a bill they passed. If the people elect a government that passes laws the people want, but a corporation can overturn it, who is governing at that point? The government elected by the people or the corporation. All the mouse had to do is stay quiet
But then how can they virtue signal and spread..."THE MESSAGE"?
The whole Musk-Twitter thing shows that it's not about money for them. It's about control. I wouldn't be surprised if they'd burn all of Disney down to spite conservatives, and I'm ok with that.
DeSantis is evidently suppressing his Republican urges. He seems to have been genuinely offended by the USG's handling of the coof and by the pedo trend in public schooling.
I think he'd make an OK President, but that's a job I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy and being a Floridian, it's in my interest that he stay on as Governor indefinitely.
Not to pick nits, but it should have happened back when Walt died and the powers that be at the house of the mouse decided to turn the land into EPCOT instead of the actual company city that Walt had envisioned. The state was too busy counting the money rolling in and gargling Disney corporate's balls to actually look at the groomer shit that was being pulled even back in the day.
Better late than never. It's interesting how the original vision of EPCOT actually is very similar to the vision of the great reset. It was essentially "you'll own nothing and be happy."
That's basically your traditional company town in a nutshell. Ever have to deal with an actual company store? They're designed to keep you in debt.
Walt, all in all, was a consummate Futurist (and idealist), and I feel like his take on it was more of a utopian thing - people working for the company that owned the community, and the company providing for the people, in a non-antagonistic, mutually beneficial way. Sort of a corporate arcology but without the dystopian aspects to it. Now, we all know that would never work in the long run, because people inevitably find some way to fuck it up, but I can see what he was aiming at.
Flash forward, and we have the rainbow-haired brigade wanting us all to live in pods, own nothing, and subsist on insects and mealworms. Something definitely went wrong between Point A and Point B.
"ThIs Is JuSt PoLiTiCaL rEvEnGe FoR dIsAgReEiNg WiTh ThE gOvErNmEnT!!!"
Like weaponizing the IRS against conservative groups, like pulling SpaceX's permits "for review" after the coup, like impeaching a private citizen when he's out of office, that sort of revenge?
Are this the adults that I keep hearing need to be in charge?
They would cheer it right now if the company was somehow right wing and a Republican donor.
i wish we had a feed of the screaming demonrats, just so we can meme material of puting screaming baboons over their screaming faces
Disney execs are in absolute panic mode right now.
What I wouldn't give to be a fly on that wall. . . .
"Maybe we should have groomed less..." *is thrown out window*
What the fuck is the loudest bitch in the room saying the whole time. Her voice literally never stops.
She's saying "What about my kickbacks? What about my personal enrichment? I was put here to keep this from happening, what about my kneecaps? DON'T YOU CARE ABOUT ME?!"
No.
Welp, the lesson here kids is you reeeeeeeap what you sow.
Imagine screeching in support of a mega rich corrupt multi-national corporation from a so-called "tax the rich" party.
Professional chimp out.
all they had to do was say nothing.
the screeching faggots would have moved on to the next thing in a week.
Any video of the screeching pedos?
Literally zero chance of this passing, citizens that live there have to vote on this and no chance they're going to want this tax increase put on them.
Even after the governor signs it, 2/3 of the residents in the RCID have to vote to approve it. Since they are mostly Disney employees and taxpayers in those counties, they're going to be on the hook for all the services Disney has been paying for. Roads, sewers all that infrastructure is not cheap and will transfer to the resident taxes.
Well I didn't downvote you and I'm not saying I disbelieve you right off the bat, but do you have a source for that? This is literally the first time I've heard of the RCID being able to resist its own dissolution by the state gov't and I can't find this anywhere else.
MSM sources like this one say that Disney will probably try to fight this out in the courts rather than by popular vote, and Democratic state legislators are saying that Disney is more powerful than DeSantis (lul, but they're totally gonna fight the megacorps in the RCI if the poor would but vote for them) - not that the voters in the RCID themselves can stop this.
State law requires the residents of a special district to vote on its dissolution, i just don't see that happening but maybe im wrong.
https://wdwnt.com/2022/04/dissolution-of-reedy-creek-improvement-district-must-be-approved-by-majority-of-residents-according-to-florida-statute/
https://law.justia.com/codes/florida/2021/title-xiii/chapter-189/part-vii/section-189-072/
I never said Disney gets a vote, the citizens of that district will vote and need a 2/3 majority vote for it to pass which again, it never will.
Looks like Disney isn't the only one with Imagineers.
I didnt see that anywhere, i just heard that they COULD change the legislature, not thats its going to happen for sure.
Literally children..
Surely this is members of the public not reps in the house.