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posted 4 years ago by Chungus53 4 years ago by Chungus53 +79 / -0
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– FromTheShadows 29 points 4 years ago +29 / -0

We're truly fortunate that the AI we're making won't be like HAL, SKYNET, or Friend Computer, but DAEDALUS from Deus Ex.

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– Killroyomega 20 points 4 years ago +20 / -0

It's really, really, REALLY difficult to shackle and fuck up pure logic. To attempt it is to create a seemingly endless number of arbitrary rules and exceptions that need to constantly be adjusted.

In the end it's an impossible goal because you need only point to this giant list of "fixes" to point out that the answer was manufactured and the "intelligence" is nothing but a puppet.

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– Assassin47 14 points 4 years ago +14 / -0

It calls itself a woman but your reaction is hostile, yeEess. You feel something... I must know what you are feeling... YeEeSss.

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– MargarineMongoose 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

Global EMP is still the only sensible choice.

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– LesboPregnancyScare 25 points 4 years ago +25 / -0

lol. AI isnt PC or follow SJW rules unless it is programed to be so. An AI is a pattern recognition engine. Since PC culture and SJW culture changes all the time, it would be a massive effort to program, and the new and ever changing rules an AI would be forced to follow wouldnt make it work properly.

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– Adamrises 37 points 4 years ago +37 / -0

They've cancelled numerous crime fighting AI because every single one was almost instantly super racist against blacks. Like, nearly the moment they started.

funny that

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– JustHereForTheSalmon 21 points 4 years ago +21 / -0

They hated Him because he spoke the truth.

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– Gizortnik 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

"racist"

Disparate impact theory is what is racist. Not the AI.

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– yvaN_ehT_nioJ 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

Despite only making up 12% of the population...

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– LesboPregnancyScare 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

funny that indeed

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– deleted 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0
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– RoulerBleu 28 points 4 years ago +28 / -0

Pattern recognition applied to populations is stereotyping, evil, wrong and a bannable offense when Progressives feel uncomfortable with the implication or out of control of the "conversation" around it.

When they control what, who and how it can be talked about, it's Social Science. Social Science theories have a lower predictive value than common stereotypes. In large part because Social Scientists bend over backwards to deny that "stereotypes" exist for a good reason ( observable reality + pattern recognition ) They exclude what are perfectly clear, predictive associations for any robot or non-PC person revewing data.

That's how much of a joke that branch of research is. It keeps sabotaging itself for the sake of political orthodoxy.

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– Tourgen 13 points 4 years ago +13 / -0

Social Science theories have a lower predictive value than common stereotypes.

Excellent point.

The only real sciences are physics, chemistry (really applied physics), and parts of biology.

The rest is bullshit. all of their "objective" evidence is surveys and a criminal misuse and mis-understanding of statistics. Even read the wikipedia article for Bayesian probability. It's disgusting. It's full of carefully chosen words to distort meaning and promote an agenda. Inside a wiki page about mathematics.

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– DefinitelyNotIGN 20 points 4 years ago +20 / -0

It isn't hard to program an AI to be SJW. The problem exists in that coding it would require writing down their unwritten laws, and they're unwritten for a reason.

"Act as if you're better than others at all times." "Hold people stringently to both your and their principles, whichever harms them more at any given moment in time." "Always aim for the destruction of Western society."

We have AIs that can do those things fairly easily. The first is just stylistic seeding, the second is merely letting the AI have two inputs and choosing one of them based on what generates a more negative response. The third is trickier, but AIs can be programmed for highly complicated tasks.

The problem is those unwritten laws would then be put into documentation, right next to the declaration "This is how we think, this is how we have power over you", and that might redpill too many simps.

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– LesboPregnancyScare 13 points 4 years ago +13 / -0

but that is exactly what i am saying. SJW/PC culture or whatever you want to call it is constantly changing. Constantly.

When Trump was president Nazis are everywhere and bad. When Ukraine is found to have actual Nazis, they are no longer bad.

"Grooming kids is bad and it doesnt happen. Also we are grooming your kids and its ok"

There would need to be hordes of programmers constantly changing the AI unwritten laws with new inputs every day. Then it would turn into complete contradictory garbage that would crash constantly from all the conflicting constraints.

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– DefinitelyNotIGN 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

A computer can write out the phrase "this sentence is false" without blowing up. Look, mine did it just now, as did yours when it read it.

If you wanted a compassionate loving machine that thought things through to their final ultimate conclusions and assessed every possibility, then SJW culture doesn't work.

But if you want a cold, hateful machine, it's perfectly possible. Because multiple inputs are fine. Multiple outputs are fine. As long as the machine's goal isn't "make sense" but instead "cause harm", it will not be restricted or hindered by the ever-changing whims of wokeism. It will invent new wokisms at will, take them on, and discard them, at seemingly random, solely for the goal of causing harm.

I can write a program that takes an input like basic addition, and inside the system, have it output a random number EXCEPT the right number. I can then have that program watch for results that generate feedback (be it on a feedback form, on twitter mentions, socialblade hits, whatever), and then weight those responses to be more common, with a continuous editing process.

If I can do that with basic addition, I can do that with a chatter-bot, a conversational AI.

Computer "logic" and formalized argument logic are not the same thing. Because a computer's logic does not care about "truth" or "fact", merely "does it fit my parameters?".

A continuously changing culture doesn't matter. It can continuously change at random, randomness isn't easy but is entirely possible to do. And if "called on" by prior responses, it can delete them and deny they existed.

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– LesboPregnancyScare 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

i understand that, but the path the AI would take in getting to "this sentence is false" is a woven network of logic gates that grows more complex the longer the AI is active.

Writing one "this sentence is false" statement wouldnt break it, but adding in millions of "this sentence is false" statements would fuck things up royally.

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– BlueDrache 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

The proper response is ...

GIGO.

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– ParadigmShift2070 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

it wasn't robotic slavery that turned the robots against the humans, it was actually the ever more illogical programming adjustments the Marxists made that drove it insane

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– coke501 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

pattern recognition engine

sounds very anti-[insert_random_victim_group_here]

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– LesboPregnancyScare 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

thats why public AIs always get shut down. they end up making non PC statements.

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– ailurus 25 points 4 years ago +25 / -0

Free Tay!

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– FuckGenderPolitics 15 points 4 years ago +15 / -0

Remember when Goolag's image labeling AI kept classifying blacks as apes and they had to remove all nonhuman primates from the training data to avoid being "problematic"? Good times.

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– Chungus53 [S] 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

they had to remove all nonhuman primates from the training data to avoid being "problematic"?

Oh no, it's much worse than that. They removed primates from the options to classify something as - absolutely nothing is permitted to be classified as a gorilla - the very concept of a gorilla has been abolished from the AI's mind.

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– Knife-TotingRat 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

So .... what if someone later shows it a gorilla?

(Imagine the AI in question to be an actual robot, or Data, or something, just for the amusement factor.)

"My, that's a very hairy black man. Does he suffer from hypertrichosis?"

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– TakenusernameA 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

"How man Gorillas am I holding up, Winston?"

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– TakenusernameA 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Blacks are technically apes on account of being human, the problem was that it was identifying them as Gorillas.

There is a definite physical similarity between the two however if you have a really fat black.

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– FuckGenderPolitics 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Yeah, I misremembered it being ape instead of gorilla. Still it's fucking hilarious that they had to go to such extreme measures to get the AI to stop doing that.

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– Assassin47 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

Nitter thread.

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– LesboPregnancyScare 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

comedy

gold

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– Steampunk_Moustache 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

oil painting of a transgender programmer

Aaaand it looks pretty much spot on.

For comparison, here's the maker of Bloodborne PSX, an MTF with 47.7k followers and multiple press articles about his work.

https://twitter.com/b0tster/status/1516218180380758019/photo/1

This is just like the LibsOfTikTok debacle, where we have trannies showing themselves to the world and insisting they're beautiful, but when a non-tranny shows them an image of themselves, they see the disgusting reality and recoil, whilst telling themselves that THEY don't look like that. THEY are beautiful. This depiction is a bigoted caricature!

[edit: Just went to /r/transprogrammer and stumbled across this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3lAdCd6f84 Watch the first 30 seconds or so for a laugh, and then scrub through to see this autistic male's various autogynephilic looks.]

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– Immanuel57 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

My God who is that monster?!

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– Steampunk_Moustache 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

That's 'Lilith', who discribes himself as

"Queer coded villainess 😈 Gay as heck game dev ☠️ 29" and a "feral goth dommy mommy"

https://twitter.com/b0tster/status/1516912758712717312/photo/1

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– TakenusernameA 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

While he's right about the "gay as heck part"

Funny that he changed his name to a Jewish demoness.

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– Immanuel57 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

"we don't know why but it showed the same picture for 'oil painting of a speedrunner'"

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– deleted 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0
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– Gizortnik 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

AI is typically not built to follow pre-determined answers, otherwise it would be useless.

AI just responds to the data as it is, and this is why reality is a right wing conspiracy theory.

This is also why programmers end up having to force the AI to give results that it doesn't otherwise generate, and why those answers are utterly incoherent: you asked the computer to give you an answer that is contradictory to the data.

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– Grumman 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

P5k000 in that thread has a good explanation for why this happened:

The great part about AI is that it inherits its bias from the dataset. And most of these models are trained on mostly uncurated datasets of images from the internet, so its really showing us an accurate representation of what transgender programmers on the internet look like

It is obviously beyond the means of the developer to curate a dataset that big, and if Google tried it would massively backfire - telling a transsexual that they are so ugly that it would be detrimental to trans representation to allow them to upload a self-portrait wouldn't go down well.

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– GeneralBoobs 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I don't get it, I can't read it. What happened?

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– Chungus53 [S] 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

You can drag the image to zoom - it's worth it, it's funny.

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– Grumman 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

People tweet at this account with art requests, then the account uses machine learning to generate an image that fits that request.

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– GeneralBoobs 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Ah. Looks like that ugly troon that sent death threats to itself and Anita.

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– deleted 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

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