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Atlantic: Sex Ed Is the Opposite of Grooming (archive.ph)
posted 4 years ago by Ahaus667 4 years ago by Ahaus667 +43 / -0
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– Knife-TotingRat 49 points 4 years ago +49 / -0

But kids don't need to know anything about it until they're about to hit puberty.

All they need to know is that if someone wants to touch them or take their clothes off, run and tell a responsible adult/cop.

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– Assassin47 44 points 4 years ago +44 / -0

if someone wants to touch them or take their clothes off

Or tries to "teach" them something and tells them to keep it secret from their parents.

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– Brennus 22 points 4 years ago +22 / -0

Anyone who tells a child to keep a secret from their parent is typically up to no good. Unless it’s the other parent and they took them shopping for the other parents Christmas/birthday/mothers/Father’s Day gift.

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– Ahaus667 [S] 17 points 4 years ago +17 / -0

No see kids need to be associated with how an erect female penis looks in case someone else tries to show them!

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– FrozeInFear 33 points 4 years ago +33 / -0

I guess they're trying the motte and bailey approach like with CRT.
"You don't want kids to learn about history and racism."
"You don't want kids to learn sex-ed."

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– Brennus 23 points 4 years ago +23 / -0

We don’t teach kindergartners-3rd graders sexed for the same reason we don’t teach them drivers Ed at that age. They can’t use the knowledge responsibly, they aren’t old enough for it to be practical for them to know, and anyone who wants them to know it that young does not have the children's best interest at heart

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 18 points 4 years ago +18 / -0

When the Christians in the 80s/90s warned that what has now happened would happen, the left swore up and down that it wouldn't and that it they would simply "teach the basics of biology".

That pact having been broken, the only reasonable answer to "you don't want kids to learn sex-ed" is "correct, because you've shown you can't be trusted with that responsibility"

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– FutaCumDiet 12 points 4 years ago +12 / -0

Close. CRT is to fill them with guilt and Queer Theory is meant to 'absolve' them of said guilt.

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– realerfunction 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

not from you, no.

you know who taught sex ed in my middle school? an old woman. who was not angling to fuck kids.

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– Ahaus667 [S] 30 points 4 years ago +30 / -0

This type of rhetoric is damaging in its own right. As the commentator David French writes in his newsletter, “Throwing around accusations of pedophilia, sympathy for pedophilia, grooming, or sympathy for grooming is a recipe for threats and violence”—an assessment that some historians endorse. This latest pedophilia panic overlaps with the false beliefs of the QAnon movement, which fueled the Pizzagate incident in 2016.

This latest pedophilia panic is due to the THOUSANDS of arrested pedophiles popping up from places like Disney and the CIA. Not to mention the mass proliferation of the “lgbtqiapedo” as preschool and elementary teachers.

A 2020 study that examined three decades of research on sex education found that comprehensive sex ed that begins in elementary school can help prevent child sex abuse, among other benefits. “Stranger danger”–type language isn’t recommended these days; about 93 percent of child sexual-abuse victims know their abusers. Instead, these programs help children identify the difference between appropriate and inappropriate touching, the difference between “tattling” and keeping unsafe secrets, and how to identify abusive situations. In other words, sex ed isn’t grooming—it helps protect kids from grooming. Modern sex ed also seems to give kids a sense of empowerment, including by teaching them the correct names for their own genitals. “Predators are less likely to select a child who can accurately talk about those body parts,” Gelperin says, “than a child that is ignorant of what those body parts are actually called.” It also makes kids less likely to victimize one another: One program for eighth graders, called Safe Dates, was associated with lower rates of physical and sexual dating violence four years later, compared with a control group. Experts recommend starting sex education as early as kindergarten and teaching it the way you would math. Five-year-olds don’t tend to learn geometry, but they do learn about numbers and shapes. Similarly, experts say kindergartners don’t need to be told about, for example, orgasms, but they are encouraged to understand what their body parts are and how to protect themselves from unwanted touching.

Having actually seen these “studies” they are about what you’d expect. Self reported studies of kids show that kids like being diddled by teachers! Plus everything listed is not part of the quit molesting kids bill.

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– deleted 22 points 4 years ago +22 / -0
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– Ahaus667 [S] 17 points 4 years ago +17 / -0

Gay people argue their “love” is different and that a teenager felating an adult is “different”

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– TakenusernameA 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Milo is certainly an example of that.

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– deleted 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0
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– TentElephant 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

One meta-analysis found that European countries, many of which offer comprehensive, mandatory sex ed, including for young children, tend to have the lowest rates of child sexual abuse in the world.

The study doesn't have anything to do with sex ed, as the groomer implies, but it is very racist by current year standards. Africa is most rapey, Europe is least rapey, and brown countries are in between.

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– Smith1980 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

But they told us not to talk to strangers or if anyone tries to touch us then tell a parent or trusted adult.

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– GhostBond 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

THOUSANDS of arrested pedophiles popping up from places like Disney and the CIA

As much as I am against those places, aren't these "children" actually teenagers, not children?

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– almond_activator 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

The Mohammad tactic (Aisha gambit?) is still morally reprehensible. Grooming a child so you'll have a chance to violate them later is as wrong as grooming a child so you can violate them now.

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– current_horror 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Stranger danger”–type language isn’t recommended these days; about 93 percent of child sexual-abuse victims know their abusers.

Ignorance of probability and statistics is a plague on our society.

Strangers don’t get a chance to molest kids because we teach them about stranger danger.

Child abuse is enabled by access and authority. That’s why sex offenders have to register, have to live and stay away from schools, and are not permitted to work with children.

A common ploy for gaining access to children is via education. This is precisely why parents want laws against anyone “teaching” kids about sex in fucking kindergarten.

And that’s really the central issue here: leftists trust their own political and cultural cohort implicitly and would never suspect even one of them of harming children, and conservatives look at headlines and police reports and know that their children are not safe around weird and degenerate leftists.

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– deleted 17 points 4 years ago +17 / -0
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– Ahaus667 [S] 16 points 4 years ago +16 / -0

It doesn’t confuse, it lies. These were the same people screaming slippery slope while 11 year olds were twerking for money in gay nightclubs. They know exactly what these groomers are doing, this is the excuse for the cognitive dissonance their readers need.

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– current_horror 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

The motte and bailey is probably the most important concept of our times. Virtually every leftist idea depends entirely on this obfuscating rhetorical structure.

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– Ahaus667 [S] 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Gotta thank good old Jon Stewart and his “I’m just a comedian” bit for waking me up to that.

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– Galean 16 points 4 years ago +16 / -0

The amount of push the left has about grooming kids is do depressing. Even if there is some pushback against it and we will all cheer in November, I just know the left will get their way in the end. We only move in one direction. Only way I see us moving to the right is via a revolution, but that will not happen until leftists commit a genocide or there is a famine. Even genocide is kind of low, I can see genocide against white people being defended by leftist whites as being some form of payback for slavery. This leaves famine.

I'm at the point where famine or a meteor looks more appealing to me then the future where leftists get to corrupt kids and cancel parents.

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– TentElephant 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

Contrary to commonly received wisdom, famine and genocide does not cause revolution. That implies that people spontaneously rise up in response in to oppression, which is a liberal myth. Revolution happens when a regime is weak and there is an organized aspirational elite prepared to replace it. The good news is that the current regime is demonstrably weakening since so many people can see the Cathedral. The regime's power is based on mind control, and a mind control machine isn't working very well when people can see it.

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– Steampunk_Moustache 12 points 4 years ago +12 / -0

The first-grade lesson plans also include a section about gender identity, in which teachers are encouraged to say something like “You might feel like you’re a boy even if you have body parts that some people might tell you are ‘girl’ parts. You might feel like you’re a girl even if you have body parts that some people might tell you are ‘boy’ parts. And you might not feel like you’re a boy or a girl, but you’re a little bit of both. No matter how you feel, you’re perfectly normal!”

Get. The. Fuck. Away. From. Those. Kids.

It wasn't long ago that if you said that to a six year old, you could expect their father to put a bullet in your head.

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– OldBullLee 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Remember the feminist push for "gender neutral" playthings? Despite the fact that Johnny wants to play with Tonka trucks and Janey wants to play with Chatty Cathy dolls, we forced them to trade off and be miserable and envious.

This looks like Phase Two of a sinister plan to subvert our understanding of one of the few things in nature we can be sure about.

The slippery slope or ratchet effect, whatever you want to call it, is an obvious fact.

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– Lurker404 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

Turning toddlers into trannies isn't sex ed, groomer!

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– Smith1980 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

Why at such a young age?

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– Galean 19 points 4 years ago +19 / -0

You know they argue in bad faith, the concept of gender is such a confusing concept for adults and we expect children to understand it. Not even getting in to sexual orientation, this are non-sexual innocent beings. They also claim that many European countries have this kind of teachings, this is incorrect. Most European countries are not ok with putting kids on puberty blocking or help kids transition before 16.

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– Brennus 13 points 4 years ago +13 / -0

Gender really isn’t confusing for adults though. We have for some reason allowed society to be ruled by the perpetually offended and people with bad intentions have used what was our societies naive desire to be polite to one another as a cudgel to gain power.

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– Ahaus667 [S] 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

We know, they’re called women.

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– vicious_snek5 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Gender really isn’t confusing for adults though

It is, deliberately so. Gender to mean sex roles is was only recently popularised by the likes of 'dr' Money in the late 60s.

Gender absolutely is a social constuct, as in it is nonsense peddled by one of the earlier groomers. Many adults are confused and think it is a thing. By arguing for it you are arguing on their terms. It's all bullshit. There are 2 sexes.

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– Smith1980 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

I’d say wait til 18. And they suppress stories about people regretting it

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– Galean 12 points 4 years ago +12 / -0

If conservatives had any influence on culture or education we would be making sex-ed classes showing the side-effects of this gender ideology. The increase anxiety, depression and suicide thoughts that is a constant among LGBTQ+. For those that are going to take puberty blockers, it is not fully reversible as the activists are saying, it stunts your normal growth but you are still growing, is not a pause on growth or we could pause puberty and become immortal. At the very least you will have a micro-penis and some very fucked up bone structure. Who knows the full extent of the puberty blockers. Pausing puberty would also increase your depression - I think groomers are counting on this to further convince kids to transition to deal with the depression that they caused. They should make clips about de-transitioners and how cult like the trans movement is. They should put pictures of trans-women and scars from chopping off the breasts of trans-men. Also explain that there is a high chance of becoming sterile and for girls they may need to remove their uterus because it would endanger their life to keep it. They would be a patient for life, they will be on drugs for the rest of their life, a life that will be full of depression. They should mention that gender dysphoria in kids clears itself thru puberty (the thing they want to block) 80% of the time and up to 90% with psychological help. And is not worth condemning 8 or 9 kids to be trans so that 1 kid has slightly better outcome - even that 1 is debatable.

If we had some medical support we should campaign and debate against gender ideology on every news station. I looked at the gender ideology and there is no way it can hold up in a debate.

Sorry for the rant, I'm a bit black pilled on the entire kid grooming stuff.

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– current_horror 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

puberty blockers

We should have called them puberty killers. Because they don’t block puberty - they destroy it.

It’s so important to challenge leftist terms and definitions. Every time I hear a word or phrase for the first time now, I immediately research the spin behind it and look for a more accurate label. New terminology is almost always a thinly-veiled leftist tactic used to define the issue in such a way that only leftists can be correct.

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– Smith1980 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

All good. Completely understand

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– Galean 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

And to add to my previous rant. Since I've been going to church, I've honestly been happier and more optimistic about life. It did more good to my mental health and the happiness of my family then any doctor or medication. The entire LGBTQ+ for kids movement is making the life of the kids worse, more depression and anxiety.

Yet the left belittles religion while praising LGBTQ+ indoctrination. It seems so evil.

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– TakenusernameA 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Because it is evil.

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– TakenusernameA 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

How bout until never.

Genital mutilation does not belong in a civilized society.

Estrogen should be a banned substance.

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– deleted 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0
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– captain-shitpost 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

sex ed for a 6 year old is literally grooming.

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– JustHereForTheSalmon 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

And just like that the legacy media conflates preparing children for sexual abuse with "Sex Ed".

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– Kaarous 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

And parading your Baskin Robbins 47 Flavors of Gay in front of toddlers isn't sex ed, groomer.

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– BlueDrache 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Says a grooming, jewish, bolshie rag that's not worth even lining a bird cage.

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– evilplushie 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Why are you giving it to 7 yr olds...

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– Killroyomega 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Having been through sex ed in school and seeing what has become now, I'm 100% against sex ed in school in general and think it's disgusting.

It doesn't do anything about teaching "safe sex," it instead creates the conditions for kids to have sex in general. Meanwhile, these classes often teach all kinds of insidious bullshit and feed kids misinformation. Hell, I'm convinced that these predatory "classes" are partially responsible for how promiscuous people, particularly women, are these days.

Homosexuality should be taught as something that's evil, however. Just a general, "men liking other men is a very bad thing and does damage to everyone around them."

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– CatoTheElder 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

https://nitter.net/olgakhazan/search?f=tweets&q=jewish

some highlights:

Reallllly impressed with all the extremists who figured out that I'm Jewish, since I ... wrote an entire book about it. this is like when I used to write about Russia (and we had comments), and Russians would just comment, "She's a Jew." like ...... thanks

Has anyone else seen a fertility doctor and they try to get you to do genetic testing? I think it's because I'm Ashkenazi Jewish, but I'm wondering 1) how big a deal that is and 2) how necessary the genetic testing is (my partner's not Jewish, Ashkenazi or otherwise) It's Sema4 genetic testing, and all the paperwork says "we strongly advise this" but it's not clear why? Like Jews have babies all the time?

I wonder if this means jews have figured out they should stop fucking their cousins?

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– TakenusernameA 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Sex Ed does not in belong in schools, not even in higher grades.

If people are too dumb to figure out how to reproduce on their own, they dont deserve to reproduce.

Parents should be the sole individuals explaining sex and puberty to their kids.

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– OldBullLee 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

What a mealy-mouthed raft of rationalizations. "Experts"? "Some historians"? It is a load of shit not even worth commenting on other than observing it's another of the left's propaganda pieces.

The left is leagues ahead in the propaganda war. We are in a struggle for who gets to reconstruct what's left of our ruined culture and the forces of sanity and sense are losing, and any resistance is being made impotent by the economic and political chaos brought on by Dementia Joe's Deep State Handlers (sounds like the name of a bluegrass band).

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