That'll teach those stupid pro-lifers!
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The dubious tactic of codifying responsibility at the point of conception isn't going to make the case very well when they want abortion to be up to and as Virginia celebrated recently, AFTER birth.
Pro-Life: "We want to encourage responsibility."
Dem: "I'll make it so that you have more responsibility in a way I think you don't want because I assume your position to be shallow and selfish as mine is."
Pro-Life: "Thank you"
Dem: bewilderment
The Twitter replies are full of Republicans calling this bill based and redpilled and leftist women saying it's not anti-male enough.
Our politicians really have no idea what anyone actually believes.
By the way, it took him less than a day to declare that his tweet was merely trolling and that obviously it was a bad idea and he was just being a trolly troll who was simply trying to start a conversation you guys. Also groveling about not catering to trannies, because of course.
oh they know
This was New Jersey. You know, the state where the democrats recently stole the election with a late night discovery of ballets, again.
Ah, you are right, I misremembered who did the standing ovation in the state house as celebration. However, I did remember the then governor of Virginia Mr. Blackface Northam characterized the bill he supported thusly:
Odd choice of words to say the baby was "delivered" then required optional "resuscitation." I assumed he meant post-birth abortion just the same, but without technicalities in these matters how could we have conversations with democrats?
The same way Clarice Starling did with Hannibal Lector?
This isn't going to get the response he is hoping for. I hate how abused the child support system is by conniving women. Still, the father's responsibility to his kid does begin at conception.
Incorrect. Men are responsible for the children they father with their wives.
Bastards are a woman's responsibility. Child support is having your cake and eating it. Women want support? Get married and stay married.
THAT'S RACIST!!!
I'm a racist then. At least I am in the "updated for modern audiences" definition of the word.
Agreed
Which always has my eyes roll when hard-core incels whine about their lot in life. They don't realize they aren't at as rock bottom as they think they are. You can be much worse off.
Liberalism is a mental disorder.
Good, this makes parental fraud a criminal action and the state becomes liable.
so he is getting rid of no fault divorce?
edit: also how is that different than how things work now?
Good, this should discourage man whores from spreading STDs.
Why is there financial responsibility to the mother? That seems pretty sexist. Is he saying pregnant women can't work?
Isn't that why matleave exists? Because the man can't be counted on to provide?
Whoop-de-doo. So men now have to pay an extra nine months of child support on top of the 18 they're already forced to.
This comment made me wonder: if a woman who identifies as a man has sex with a man that identifies as a woman, does the now pregnant "man", i.e. the "father" have to pay the "woman", i.e. the "mother"?
Isn’t that how it is anyway?
I'm honestly ok with that. It will make guys think twice. I wonder what responsibilities he would have, pay half of the medical bills? What if she is insured already?
Okay, but then understand that there's no going back. You can't propose something like this, call the mother a mother at the point of conception and then later claim that life doesn't start at conception.
The only issue I see with this bill is the possible difficulties in proving a child is indeed belonging to the male in question genetically, since DNA testing cannot safely occur for the majority of the pregnancy period.
But that is a fringe edge case. The bill as a concept seems sound, it would discourage unsafe sex practices and casual flings, but not in a heavy-handed government intervention way, but rather in a way meant to benefit the child.
It could be expanded, though. And simultaneously solve the DNA issue: With DNA being mapped and markered all the time as intellectual property, a bill to make everyone's DNA sequence as their own IP would make a false claim of pregnancy to be a form of copyright infringement, something our courts can already handle.
If he has to have financial responsibility for the kid, then he gets a say on whether or not the mother ends the kid.
It's your body, but it's our kid.
I’d like to give this faggot’s mother a very late, post-natal abortion.
I'm fine with this as long as there's a mandatory paternity test.
Guys should only be able to walk away during the abortion period or if they were not informed. After that they both have made their choice and have to stick with it.
Also the mother should not be able to unilaterally give a child up for adoption, she should be financially responsible for that child for 18 years whether it's raised by the father or is adopted/fostered.
They want guys to pay for the woman's Greyhound bus ticket to pro-abortion states.