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Congratulations, if you want to know about the intelligence blackmail through child rape scandal that is Epstein, you’re now a former Trump supporter (twitter.com)
posted 323 days ago by Ahaus667 323 days ago by Ahaus667 +80 / -0
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– Kienan 44 points 323 days ago +44 / -0

You ran on the Epstein "bullshit," you whiny bitch. That's why people care. Also, your complete reversal - and now smearing of anyone who is still interested in what you promised - is weird as fuck.

If there's nothing there, release it like you said. If you have proof it was altered or fabricated by The Dems™, or is otherwise unreliable, release that. Also, similar to the Iran strike intel, no one has really explained how they know Epstein killed himself. The very people who said every sign showed he was killed, are now saying everything points to suicide, but haven't actually said what that is. Pointless video now definitively shows - somehow! - that he obviously killed himself. Also, you say you don't know if he was intel...but closed the case.

The whole thing stinks of a coverup, which is why people are still digging. No one is getting conned, no one is siding with Obama. We always wanted the truth on the pedophiles running the world, and we want it more than ever after your weird fucking behavior, Mr. President.

Also, you're the one who spun it up, not the Fake News and the Dems. This is all Trump and his admin's fault, at least optically. They all drew attention to it, they all ran on it, then they pissed on us and told us it was raining.

You own this, Don. Not Obama, not the media. For whatever reason, you handled this...poorly. As in, the poorest I've ever seen you handle anything, and just historically bad in general. I have no fucking clue what you're doing, but you own this.

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– AntonioOfVenice 20 points 323 days ago +20 / -0

He got his way by insulting Tulsi and Tucker during the Iran mess.

Now he's doing the same on a grander scale.

Does anyone remember how we got our start due to games sites insulting their own audience? Yeah, that is not a smart thing to do.

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– Kienan 18 points 323 days ago +18 / -0

Does anyone remember how we got our start due to games sites insulting their own audience?

The only good thing about the establishment is that they're retarded.

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– LandoNorris 2 points 323 days ago +2 / -0

I love how he’s like “should I blame this all on Biden? No, nobody will believe he’s mentally capable of doing this, better go back to obama!” lol

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– current_horror 26 points 323 days ago +26 / -0

Remember when video game journalist Leigh Alexander tried to unilaterally declare that gamers were no longer the audience?

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– Kienan 12 points 323 days ago +12 / -0

Trump Supporters Are Dead, is what you're saying?

Sadly...kind of true, this time.

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– Benevolentdictator 5 points 323 days ago +5 / -0

Total Boomer Death

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– AntonioOfVenice 4 points 323 days ago +4 / -0

Ah, I guess someone else saw the parallel long before I did.

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– Bouldabassed 24 points 323 days ago +24 / -0

I don't buy the idea that he is this out of touch. Which means he is aware how bad this comes off and is doing it anyway. I'm not sure how anyone can conclude anything aside from he must be covering for Israel, or that someone he wants to protect is implicated. Hope the deal with the devil is worth it for him. Hard to conclude that it is anything but terrible for the country as a whole.

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– JustHereForTheSalmon 13 points 323 days ago +13 / -0

The White House coup by Israel is compete.

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– covok48 5 points 323 days ago +5 / -0

This. It can’t be explained any other way.

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– Gizortnik 5 points 323 days ago +5 / -0

Honestly, there's no way he's this stupid to not know how this "heel turn" will go down.

The one thing he's a genius on is manipulating social media. If he really believed this, it would be one of those greatest tactical blunders from brilliant generals, as bad as Napoleon going to sleep during the Battle of Waterloo. Or Caesar sailing out of Alexandria to do an in-person night-time amphibious landing on a dock.

It's possible, but it's genuinely hard to believe that he'd be so dense that he couldn't see this would have the opposite effect. As Robert Barnes said, it's like he's banging on the Streisand Effect. It's weird to say this is 4-d chess, but I actually feel like it might be. He's creating negative political attention. He does seem to be constantly doing this thing where he takes risks and cashes in at the last moment with whatever wins he has, and then takes credit as if it were the plan all along.

I actually kind of wonder if he's using this to launch a deeper investigation, or force someone out. It's weird.

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– Bouldabassed 6 points 323 days ago +6 / -0

Yeah all I will say with certainty is that I have no certain grasp on what the hell he's thinking right now. I would have pushed back on the 4D chess angle a day or two ago, but it's crossed into the "so bad it isn't plausible that he's this stupid" territory so I don't know what to think anymore.

I'm a big fan of Barnes, especially lately. Where did he say that, in the big Sunday stream they do?

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– covok48 3 points 323 days ago +3 / -0

Dang, ya’ll have some serious faith going on.

My counterpoint? His opinion on the vaccines.

He’s been known to fuck up badly.

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– Bouldabassed 3 points 323 days ago +3 / -0

Definitely not favoring the 4D chess angle, just considering it a solid possibility.

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– Gizortnik 3 points 323 days ago +3 / -0

Yeah, he said it on the Sunday stream, I was watching it late. He's more convinced that this is incompetence from people around Trump pushing some worm-tounge bullshit. He was ranting pretty hard.

The thing is that I can't quite tell where Trump is actually going. It's like he's pulling the 'madman leader' on everyone. He keeps pushing things in certain ways that, even if he burns political capital, he ends up getting what he wanted.

With the tarrifs, he was basically making shit up about the actual justifications for the tarrifs, and pledged bajillion percent tarrifs, and then softened when he got most of what he wanted. With Iran, he basically sounded like he was going to send in the Marines, and then got the specifics of what he wanted when he knocked out the nuclear program and made a show of US strength. Now we've got him screeching that Epstein dindu nuffin... it makes me think he'll back down on that and launch some kind of investigation.

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– theaustrianpainter 1 point 323 days ago +1 / -0

It's weird to say this is 4-d chess, but I actually feel like it might be.

Of course it is, it certainly isnt our greatest ally.

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– Gizortnik 2 points 323 days ago +2 / -0

I never said it wasn't related to Israel, get over yourself. And, in fact, it might be a way to get an investigation going regardless of Netanyahu is hoping he does. Moreover, Iran has shown that Trump isn't doing whatever Netanyahu wants. It appears that Trump, finally, seems to actually have leverage on Israel. He's just not pressuring them enough.

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– AnAmishWithATude 18 points 323 days ago +18 / -0

trump: sure I dont see a problem releasing those files when I get into office

(A few moments later)

nobody:

absolutely nobody:

trump: this is a democrat scam to take me down! If you keep talking about this I'm not going to be your friend anymore!

???

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– AntonioOfVenice 13 points 323 days ago +13 / -0

Your terms are acceptable.

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– ThreeLights 13 points 323 days ago +13 / -0

Trump went to war for Israel then suddenly the Epstein list is the mother of all nothing burgers. His wording is the same as any modern day movie scripts on old IPs. Israel has the footage and are blackmailing him.

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– AgnosticTemplar 4 points 323 days ago +4 / -0

Trump took away israel's excuse for going to war with iran by strategically bombing their nuclear material depos, israel wanted a full scale invasion and regime change. No wonder mossad started pulling back on the yoke. Remember, Trump is a zionist, so despite how much mossad may threaten him, he'll still be a shabbos goy, even if it means ruining his legacy.

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– ModsAreAIDS 12 points 323 days ago +12 / -0

He isn't wrong. I am absolutely a former supporter. And the more he keeps doing this, the more I am looking forward to the destruction of the GOP in the midterms. I hope they lose every single election.

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– Galean 23 points 323 days ago +23 / -0

Why? The Democrats are even worse. At least Trump is doing something about immigration and has been fighting against DIE.

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– Kienan 24 points 323 days ago +24 / -0

He's a single issue voter. I get the frustration, but I don't agree. Trump is better than AOC, and to pretend AOC won't also continue to sell out is silly.

Personally, I'm not flipping - I don't see myself ever voting for a Democrat, in their current form - but I'm also much less inclined to support the Republicans, as they've failed and backstabbed massively time and time again. The hope I had for them growing more fully into the MAGA Party, has mostly evaporated, as they've shown they can't be trusted in the slightest.

Unless we have another great sounding candidate, or a really bad candidate I want to vote against...I'll probably vote third party now. Libertarian, or a fringe hardcore based candidate, if we get one. The Republicans have lost almost all their credibility so, while I won't support the Dems, I can't trust the Republicans either.

I don't want the Republicans to lose like Mods, but I also can't really care enough to vote for them in good conscience. Fuck the uniparty. Yeah, Trump is doing good on some issues, but he's also seemingly being a massive fucking traitor on other very important issues.

I can't stand traitors. And both parties are full of them. Fuck 'em.

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– AntonioOfVenice 5 points 323 days ago +5 / -0

This guy is a glowie, or at least glowie adjacent.

But an intelligent case can be made for not supporting Republicans, because if you back them unconditionally (which is not what you're saying) "because they're less evil than the Dems" - the lesser of the two evils will get more evil every time, as they can get your vote for granted. That is how you get to be the European "center-right", which just means far-left.

I think the wisest course is the one you outline: vote in primaries, vote for good or at least not awful Republicans (because 95% of Republicans can't be classified as 'good').

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– Kienan 9 points 323 days ago +9 / -0

This guy is a glowie, or at least glowie adjacent.

Eh, everyone has to glow from time to time. People are frustrated, and there were already a bunch of people predisposed to dooming. I don't agree with him, but doesn't mean I'll write him off as a glowie either.

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– AntonioOfVenice 3 points 323 days ago +3 / -0

Eh, everyone has to glow from time to time.

I'm not basing just on his comments here. He glows REALLY hard. Reminds me of people here who were saying "don't bother voting GOP, they'll steal it anyway".

People are frustrated

No one more than me, who in the past 1.5 month had Trump almost send 10 million refugees towards me, now support the endless war in fake Ukraine, and this.

Still, "I hope Democrats win huge majorities" is stupid, because the reading of that will be that Trump was too right-wing.

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– horstshort 4 points 323 days ago +4 / -0

Let's be honest here. When it comes to voting you have the choice between 'fast annihilation' and 'slower annihilation'. Of course it's better to vote for 'slower' but if voting is all you going to do the outcome will not change.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 323 days ago +1 / -0

I completely agree that voting can never be the be all and the end all. That is a recipe for defeat to lobbies that are active 365 days a year, 24/7, not once every 4 years.

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– SarcasticRidley 1 point 323 days ago +1 / -0

Libertarians are terrible on borders. They have good economic policies in general, but they have this "live and let live" attitude that lets bad actors infiltrate and destroy from within.

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– Kienan 2 points 323 days ago +2 / -0

Libertarians are terrible on borders.

Some libertarians are retarded on borders. Not the ones I like, promote, or would vote for. "Libertarian" is a broad tent, and some are retarded leftist Redditor faggots. I'd argue that they're not even libertarian, but that gets a bit Scotsman-y.

But there's also a libertarian argument for strong borders, and it's actually at the core of libertarianism; property rights. If a country is the property of its people, you should protect it. Just like it would be unjust to force someone to live in your house, your government letting people come live in your country is not libertarian. Especially if you're also forced to pay for it. The more rightwing libertarians are perfectly fine on the border question.

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– ModsAreAIDS 11 points 323 days ago +11 / -0

Because I don't reward betrayal with my support. If Republicans are going to focus their support on pedophiles and Israelis, then they can get their votes from pedophiles and Israelis.

I am voting third party or Democrat. The GOP is dead to me after this last month.

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– LeRiverDanube 12 points 323 days ago +12 / -0

Ah yes support the party that are open borders, pro third world rape gangs, and along the with the list you mentioned

Totally a smart decision

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– CatoTheElder 6 points 323 days ago +6 / -0

So you support the party that wants infinity pajeets and first would rape gangs instead.

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– LeRiverDanube 9 points 323 days ago +9 / -0

You faggots and your goldfish memory. We had all those in the biden administration.

I guess YOU want more of those

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– CatoTheElder 3 points 323 days ago +3 / -0

They are the same damn thing you dense motherfucker.

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– LeRiverDanube 5 points 323 days ago +5 / -0

Were getting deportations economic boosts and not getting fleeced by canada and mexico.

What did we have last time. Oh yeah, mass inflations, send all our money to ukraine, gulaging anyone not regressive left. And an openly pedophilic 'president'

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– deleted 1 point 323 days ago +1 / -0
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– AntonioOfVenice 5 points 323 days ago +5 / -0

You're a glowie, so this is targeted at anyone reading this, but voting for Democrats will be seen as an endorsement of their even-worse policies. Third party is the only way for someone who actually wants to make a positive difference.

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– ModsAreAIDS 9 points 323 days ago +9 / -0

You're a glowie

Yeah. I'm a racist/sexist/nazi/homophobe/transphobe/bigot/leftist/communist/glowie...

Call me whatever you want. My vote still won't be going to Republicans, and will still be infinitely more influential than yours, since you don't get one.

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– AntonioOfVenice 5 points 323 days ago +5 / -0

My vote still won't be going to Republicans, and will still be infinitely more influential than yours, since you don't get one.

Correct, but you're not able to actually address the argument.

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– ModsAreAIDS 1 point 323 days ago +1 / -0

The answer is that destroying the Republican party would make a positive difference by making room for a party that actually puts America first.

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– AntonioOfVenice 3 points 323 days ago +3 / -0

And if you're wrong that (1) this will destroy the GOP and that (2) the destruction of the GOP would lead to a party that puts America first and that (3) this party would be electorally successful and that (4) this party would actually accomplish its goals?

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– CatoTheElder 8 points 323 days ago +8 / -0

Because as long as the GOP exists nothing can replace it. It has to be destroyed before something better can take it's place.

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– Galean 12 points 323 days ago +12 / -0

Why? The same as we got Trump despite being booed by the GOP why can't we get a Trump 2.0?

I'm ok with his other policies as I mentioned: immigration, anti-DIE, tariffs, NATO countries to stop being leeches, encouraging drilling for oil. A slightly upgraded Trump is enough.

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– Kopkot 5 points 323 days ago +5 / -0

That's why nothing changes. Because voters like you want more of this. People like me are tired of shits like trump.

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– Galean 1 point 323 days ago +1 / -0

Change nothing? Not sure where you were the last 5 years but things are changing drastically.

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– CatoTheElder 4 points 323 days ago +4 / -0

His policies on immigration suck. He is deporting 1/100th the numbers a week that he should be deporting a day. He is pro faggot, pro jeet, pro nigger, he is for DIE as long as it is called something different. He backed down on tariffs and didn't even have them the right order of magnitude to start with.

All of his policies are pressure relief valves. They are patching a hole on a ship that has broke in half. Everything he is doing is to make normies think that something is being done, while continuing to allow the destruction of the people who explored and settled America.

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– Kopkot 4 points 323 days ago +4 / -0

That's the point. They are the same people. They are protecting the same people that run pedo rings in order to control our government.

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– Galean 2 points 323 days ago +2 / -0

How would Trump losing the midterm change anything? How is getting Democrats in power that are way worse then Trump, make things better?

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– Gizortnik 2 points 323 days ago +2 / -0

As someone who's not freaking out about this, the UK has shown me that the only way to exert political pressure against people who aren't doing what you want is to directly vote against them. Not turning out helps, but protest votes aren't fake and gay, it's a way of saying "fuck you, you don't deserve to win". It's one of the few ways to actually force change.

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– arglide 12 points 323 days ago +12 / -0

Date of Epstein's death: August 10, 2019

Date of Biden's inauguration: January 20, 2021

Biden had four years and did nothing. The only difference with Trump this time is he said he'd do something, then did nothing.

Electing democrats isn't making the jews mad. I guarantee if there's a meeting high up in Mossad where someone says "Oh no, looks like support for the American right is eroding and a bunch of democrats will get in!", the response would be, "OK, so what's the problem?"

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– Kienan 14 points 323 days ago +14 / -0

The only difference with Trump this time is he said he'd do something, then did nothing.

I know it's mostly optics and feelings, but Trump did less than nothing. He betrayed and lied and helped the cover up, and did so blatantly, spitting in everyone's faces. People have a visceral hate for traitors. Trump did this to himself, with his incompetence, unless he pulls out some last minute 4D chess or something.

Some people take that reaction to a bad conclusion, but I absolutely get the cause. Trump massively backstabbed everyone. It doesn't matter if Biden and Trump were mostly the same on the issue...we didn't vote for Biden, and expected him to be terrible. Biden never promised us shit. Trump did, then did the opposite, at least on this.

People are fed up. It's being pointed out, blatantly, in real time, that we don't actually have a representational system.

Electing democrats isn't making the jews mad. I guarantee if there's a meeting high up in Mossad...

Yup. Israeli interests heavily targeted the Dems. AIPAC and others have their claws all over them. It's called the Uniparty for a reason. Dems clearly aren't the fix, on any conservative issues.

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– ModsAreAIDS 5 points 323 days ago +5 / -0

Dems clearly aren't the fix, on any conservative issues.

I never said they were or expected them to be. I expect them to be a chaos agent that brings the entire corrupt system crashing down via their incompetence.

I agree with the rest of what you said though.

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– Kienan 7 points 323 days ago +7 / -0

I expect them to be a chaos agent that brings the entire corrupt system crashing down via their incompetence.

They haven't managed so far. And they're more aligned with the enemy values, so you're really playing with fire. If the Dems get in again (which I think is likely), either the whole system collapses, or the progressive Satanic slop becomes the New Normal, the accepted status quo, for a few more generations.

Dems aren't chaos agents, they are the establishment. If the Dems get in, they either bring the system down like you want (it will be bloody if that happens), or they win and we keep living in their world, and the reversal is set back decades.

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– ModsAreAIDS 3 points 323 days ago +3 / -0

If the Dems get in, they either bring the system down like you want (it will be bloody if that happens), or they win and we keep living in their world, and the reversal is set back decades.

Like Matt Damon's character said in Interstellar, those are the best odds I have seen in years.

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– Kienan 3 points 323 days ago +3 / -0

Fair enough.

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– ModsAreAIDS 4 points 323 days ago +4 / -0

Then I guess it is pretty stupid of Trump to make protecting pedophiles and Mossad a higher priority than executing his platform. He probably shouldn't do that if he wants any chance at a Republican congress after midterms.

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– Kienan 4 points 323 days ago +4 / -0

I am looking forward to the destruction of the GOP in the midterms.

So are they, for whatever reason. They love to "lose."

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– Unknownsailor 12 points 323 days ago +12 / -0

I hope he enjoys getting impeached in 2027, because he is going to loose both the House and the Senate, and the first thing they do will be to impeach him.

It remains to be seen if the Senate will flip hard enough that Dems can get a 66 seat majority, which is what it will take to convict in the Senate. The boomercon vote is something to be reckoned with, and may prevent that.

Anyway, I always knew Trump was just a stepping stone, as Andrew Torba puts it:

https://x.com/BasedTorba/status/1945484301690081480

https://nitter.poast.org/BasedTorba/status/1945484301690081480#m

American Franco will rise....

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– covok48 3 points 323 days ago +3 / -0

I predict he will be impeached, removed, arrested, tried, and guilty on (no pun) trumped up charges.

Then the Civil War starts.

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– multiformat 6 points 323 days ago +6 / -0

Never was a zognald supporter. Both parties are kosher and democracy/republics in general are a failed system.

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– RoulerBleu 3 points 323 days ago +3 / -0

Edit : someone beat me to the meme response.

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