He's a single issue voter. I get the frustration, but I don't agree. Trump is better than AOC, and to pretend AOC won't also continue to sell out is silly.
Personally, I'm not flipping - I don't see myself ever voting for a Democrat, in their current form - but I'm also much less inclined to support the Republicans, as they've failed and backstabbed massively time and time again. The hope I had for them growing more fully into the MAGA Party, has mostly evaporated, as they've shown they can't be trusted in the slightest.
Unless we have another great sounding candidate, or a really bad candidate I want to vote against...I'll probably vote third party now. Libertarian, or a fringe hardcore based candidate, if we get one. The Republicans have lost almost all their credibility so, while I won't support the Dems, I can't trust the Republicans either.
I don't want the Republicans to lose like Mods, but I also can't really care enough to vote for them in good conscience. Fuck the uniparty. Yeah, Trump is doing good on some issues, but he's also seemingly being a massive fucking traitor on other very important issues.
I can't stand traitors. And both parties are full of them. Fuck 'em.
This guy is a glowie, or at least glowie adjacent.
But an intelligent case can be made for not supporting Republicans, because if you back them unconditionally (which is not what you're saying) "because they're less evil than the Dems" - the lesser of the two evils will get more evil every time, as they can get your vote for granted. That is how you get to be the European "center-right", which just means far-left.
I think the wisest course is the one you outline: vote in primaries, vote for good or at least not awful Republicans (because 95% of Republicans can't be classified as 'good').
This guy is a glowie, or at least glowie adjacent.
Eh, everyone has to glow from time to time. People are frustrated, and there were already a bunch of people predisposed to dooming. I don't agree with him, but doesn't mean I'll write him off as a glowie either.
I'm not basing just on his comments here. He glows REALLY hard. Reminds me of people here who were saying "don't bother voting GOP, they'll steal it anyway".
People are frustrated
No one more than me, who in the past 1.5 month had Trump almost send 10 million refugees towards me, now support the endless war in fake Ukraine, and this.
Still, "I hope Democrats win huge majorities" is stupid, because the reading of that will be that Trump was too right-wing.
Libertarians are terrible on borders. They have good economic policies in general, but they have this "live and let live" attitude that lets bad actors infiltrate and destroy from within.
Some libertarians are retarded on borders. Not the ones I like, promote, or would vote for. "Libertarian" is a broad tent, and some are retarded leftist Redditor faggots. I'd argue that they're not even libertarian, but that gets a bit Scotsman-y.
But there's also a libertarian argument for strong borders, and it's actually at the core of libertarianism; property rights. If a country is the property of its people, you should protect it. Just like it would be unjust to force someone to live in your house, your government letting people come live in your country is not libertarian. Especially if you're also forced to pay for it. The more rightwing libertarians are perfectly fine on the border question.
Because I don't reward betrayal with my support. If Republicans are going to focus their support on pedophiles and Israelis, then they can get their votes from pedophiles and Israelis.
I am voting third party or Democrat. The GOP is dead to me after this last month.
You're a glowie, so this is targeted at anyone reading this, but voting for Democrats will be seen as an endorsement of their even-worse policies. Third party is the only way for someone who actually wants to make a positive difference.
Yeah. I'm a racist/sexist/nazi/homophobe/transphobe/bigot/leftist/communist/glowie...
Call me whatever you want. My vote still won't be going to Republicans, and will still be infinitely more influential than yours, since you don't get one.
Why? The same as we got Trump despite being booed by the GOP why can't we get a Trump 2.0?
I'm ok with his other policies as I mentioned: immigration, anti-DIE, tariffs, NATO countries to stop being leeches, encouraging drilling for oil. A slightly upgraded Trump is enough.
His policies on immigration suck. He is deporting 1/100th the numbers a week that he should be deporting a day. He is pro faggot, pro jeet, pro nigger, he is for DIE as long as it is called something different. He backed down on tariffs and didn't even have them the right order of magnitude to start with.
All of his policies are pressure relief valves. They are patching a hole on a ship that has broke in half. Everything he is doing is to make normies think that something is being done, while continuing to allow the destruction of the people who explored and settled America.
As someone who's not freaking out about this, the UK has shown me that the only way to exert political pressure against people who aren't doing what you want is to directly vote against them. Not turning out helps, but protest votes aren't fake and gay, it's a way of saying "fuck you, you don't deserve to win". It's one of the few ways to actually force change.
Why? The Democrats are even worse. At least Trump is doing something about immigration and has been fighting against DIE.
He's a single issue voter. I get the frustration, but I don't agree. Trump is better than AOC, and to pretend AOC won't also continue to sell out is silly.
Personally, I'm not flipping - I don't see myself ever voting for a Democrat, in their current form - but I'm also much less inclined to support the Republicans, as they've failed and backstabbed massively time and time again. The hope I had for them growing more fully into the MAGA Party, has mostly evaporated, as they've shown they can't be trusted in the slightest.
Unless we have another great sounding candidate, or a really bad candidate I want to vote against...I'll probably vote third party now. Libertarian, or a fringe hardcore based candidate, if we get one. The Republicans have lost almost all their credibility so, while I won't support the Dems, I can't trust the Republicans either.
I don't want the Republicans to lose like Mods, but I also can't really care enough to vote for them in good conscience. Fuck the uniparty. Yeah, Trump is doing good on some issues, but he's also seemingly being a massive fucking traitor on other very important issues.
I can't stand traitors. And both parties are full of them. Fuck 'em.
This guy is a glowie, or at least glowie adjacent.
But an intelligent case can be made for not supporting Republicans, because if you back them unconditionally (which is not what you're saying) "because they're less evil than the Dems" - the lesser of the two evils will get more evil every time, as they can get your vote for granted. That is how you get to be the European "center-right", which just means far-left.
I think the wisest course is the one you outline: vote in primaries, vote for good or at least not awful Republicans (because 95% of Republicans can't be classified as 'good').
Eh, everyone has to glow from time to time. People are frustrated, and there were already a bunch of people predisposed to dooming. I don't agree with him, but doesn't mean I'll write him off as a glowie either.
I'm not basing just on his comments here. He glows REALLY hard. Reminds me of people here who were saying "don't bother voting GOP, they'll steal it anyway".
No one more than me, who in the past 1.5 month had Trump almost send 10 million refugees towards me, now support the endless war in fake Ukraine, and this.
Still, "I hope Democrats win huge majorities" is stupid, because the reading of that will be that Trump was too right-wing.
Libertarians are terrible on borders. They have good economic policies in general, but they have this "live and let live" attitude that lets bad actors infiltrate and destroy from within.
Some libertarians are retarded on borders. Not the ones I like, promote, or would vote for. "Libertarian" is a broad tent, and some are retarded leftist Redditor faggots. I'd argue that they're not even libertarian, but that gets a bit Scotsman-y.
But there's also a libertarian argument for strong borders, and it's actually at the core of libertarianism; property rights. If a country is the property of its people, you should protect it. Just like it would be unjust to force someone to live in your house, your government letting people come live in your country is not libertarian. Especially if you're also forced to pay for it. The more rightwing libertarians are perfectly fine on the border question.
Because I don't reward betrayal with my support. If Republicans are going to focus their support on pedophiles and Israelis, then they can get their votes from pedophiles and Israelis.
I am voting third party or Democrat. The GOP is dead to me after this last month.
Ah yes support the party that are open borders, pro third world rape gangs, and along the with the list you mentioned
Totally a smart decision
So you support the party that wants infinity pajeets and first would rape gangs instead.
You faggots and your goldfish memory. We had all those in the biden administration.
I guess YOU want more of those
You're a glowie, so this is targeted at anyone reading this, but voting for Democrats will be seen as an endorsement of their even-worse policies. Third party is the only way for someone who actually wants to make a positive difference.
Yeah. I'm a racist/sexist/nazi/homophobe/transphobe/bigot/leftist/communist/glowie...
Call me whatever you want. My vote still won't be going to Republicans, and will still be infinitely more influential than yours, since you don't get one.
Correct, but you're not able to actually address the argument.
Because as long as the GOP exists nothing can replace it. It has to be destroyed before something better can take it's place.
Why? The same as we got Trump despite being booed by the GOP why can't we get a Trump 2.0?
I'm ok with his other policies as I mentioned: immigration, anti-DIE, tariffs, NATO countries to stop being leeches, encouraging drilling for oil. A slightly upgraded Trump is enough.
That's why nothing changes. Because voters like you want more of this. People like me are tired of shits like trump.
Change nothing? Not sure where you were the last 5 years but things are changing drastically.
His policies on immigration suck. He is deporting 1/100th the numbers a week that he should be deporting a day. He is pro faggot, pro jeet, pro nigger, he is for DIE as long as it is called something different. He backed down on tariffs and didn't even have them the right order of magnitude to start with.
All of his policies are pressure relief valves. They are patching a hole on a ship that has broke in half. Everything he is doing is to make normies think that something is being done, while continuing to allow the destruction of the people who explored and settled America.
That's the point. They are the same people. They are protecting the same people that run pedo rings in order to control our government.
How would Trump losing the midterm change anything? How is getting Democrats in power that are way worse then Trump, make things better?
As someone who's not freaking out about this, the UK has shown me that the only way to exert political pressure against people who aren't doing what you want is to directly vote against them. Not turning out helps, but protest votes aren't fake and gay, it's a way of saying "fuck you, you don't deserve to win". It's one of the few ways to actually force change.