Fake Christians, frankly. Of which there are plenty. I call them Churchians.
In Christianity, forgiveness requires contrition. The thug that murdered his son is almost certainly not sorry nor has he sought out the family of his victim to ask for it.
Secondly, when real Christians offer "forgiveness" person to person, as in "as we forgive those who trespass against us" is more or less an English mistranslation. It means to abandon hot blooded vengeance against the perpetrator. It does not mean not punishing them, but rather to do so dispassionately because it's the right thing to do.
In essence, in proper Christianity forgiving a murderer means offering them the chance for the last rites before you cut off their head. Not this spineless cuckoldry.
The father is a coward. He likely caved to the "crisis management" team that probably paid him a visit. The nice men from the government who come visit you when a family member gets murdered by a black kid.
It IS the christly thing to do, but forgiving him doesn't mean bending to evil or condoining his actions. Decrying what he did, expecting justice and being clear about the nature of his sin is not inherent in forgiveness. Too many people seem to think forgiveness means being spineless. It means not seeking revenge, not being sinful in turn--but anger and grief are acceptable and necessary emotions for christians too.
People have been trained on a steady diet of "Turn the other cheek (culturally mistranslated)" to think that being a Christian means sitting down, shutting up, and letting everyone else walk all over you. We're called to love our enemies, but you can love someone and still say "What you did was wrong, and you still need to be punished." Forgiveness isn't "We'll just pretend you didn't do anything wrong." It's "You did something wrong, but I'm going to love you, anyway." Mercy can only given to those who genuinely ask for it. Jesus, through His parables, was not kind to those who would abuse His grace.
My dad once said he thinks that the death penalty could be a mercy in of itself, because it gives one a clear time limit to their waste of a life and a chance to get right with God while they have a chance.
Edit: Why am I fully upvoted when I'm agreeing with yamez?
If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.
Sounds good to me! All those loonies who claim Jesus wouldn't hurt anyone? He sure would! If they deserved it, like the moneychangers.
All those loonies who claim Jesus wouldn't hurt anyone? He sure would!
Yeah, the modern Judeo-Hippie Jesus needs to go. Look at John seeing the risen Christ (Revelation 1 12-18). This isn't a granola-eating, Prius-driving go-along-get-along type. This is sacrificial third of the Triune Godhead. "Behold, I am alive evermore... and have the keys of Hell and of death."
I will disagree. Forgiveness does not mean that the perpetrator should be released from prison, or that the act of forgiveness eliminates the crime. That is a lie by secular culture.
Yes, the crusaders and inquisitors sure were cucked ''love thy neighbors and let everyone walk over you'' faggots. Wonder who's in favor from these ''judeo Christian'' values.
Forgiveness is a personal thing. What is interesting to me is this continuing trend of white people denying the racial aspects of these crimes. It creates an idea that racism is greater than murder. And of course racism can only be leveled against whites.
I have a few questions.
Is there a text that explains how repentance and forgiveness should work between men? And wishfully in that context, what repentance fully entails? The Lord's Prayer pleads God "forgive us our sins/debts/trespasses, as we forgive those who [sin] against us," but I think there must be some difference in a man's ability from God's to know someone's sincerity in repentance.
Then, I think there is some missing discourse about this (possibly) modern routine of publicized forgiveness. Wouldn't this go against the old teachings against what amounts to virtue signaling (e.g. don't pray out loud for others to hear)?
This guy probably doesn't actually forgive the fucker, he's just virtue signaling. True forgiveness is a personal matter between two people, not to be trumpeted on the daily news.
The father was most definitely paid a visit by the DOJ’s Community Relations Service. The job of CRS is specifically to downplay and/or cover up hate crimes against White people by convincing the victim’s family members to publicly say that they believe race played no role in the attack, and that blacks are great people, even though they’re violent assholes who hate Whites. CRS doesn’t do that on the rare occasion where a White person attacks/kills a negro, whether it was justified or not, media jumps in and says race definitely played a role in the attack, just to keep the “racist Whites are everywhere” myth alive in order to stir up even more anti White hatred and attacks. You don’t hate ZOG enough. And btw, there’s a CRS type of agency in every White nation being inundated by brown immigration.
They'll make a "documentary-style movie" out of this but race-swap the two kids.
Just like that British show did. (Took a violent Black kid & cast a White kid for his role in a real-life crime story)
Honestly the whole game suffers a lot from the Starship Troopers syndrome of making all the elements you are supposed to hate look awesome.
And then fucks it up even further by making the "sympathetic" side look fucking awful and eviler than their oppressors in every way other than "muh slavery, muh capitalism."
Did God forgive Lilith when he cursed and banished her when she rebelled against his will? Did he forgave the evil humans of the Noa story when he drowned them? Did he forgave the degenerates of Sodom and Gomorah when he nuked them?
These are fake christians. True christianity is, if your harm offend you cut it.
Wasn’t Jesus’s whole “I’m not going to call down angels to save me” deal because he was a literal sacrifice and had to die to open the gate? The misunderstanding seems almost deliberately done and pushed out by people who hate him.
And the word does appear in the Bible but gets translated “screech-owl”, though not in reference to any “first wife of Adam” nonsense
Everyone discussing Lilith is discussing the "first wife of Adam," not a screech owl, so it's correct to say that person is not part of the Bible.
Lilith is mentioned in a Mandaean magic incantation inscribed in Mandaic on a c. 7th-century Late Antiquity lead amulet designated "BM 135794 II",[100] where she is mentioned together with other demons, in plural form. The first of the charm's text consists of a banning formula that calls for the binding, subduing and destruction of various demons, mentioned by name in plural form, and also talks of the demons of time walking about and harming "the children of Adam and all offspring of Hawa (=Eve)". The lines of this formula are repeated near-identically about three times, with Lilith's name, in plural, appearing in the formula on lines 27, 46 and 55, in the same near-identical line "Sahras, Dews, Rhuas, Humartas and Lilits."[101] At lines 70-100, the banning formula of the charm ends and is taken over by a Mandaic magic story that tells of a gnostic tree made up of different demon groups and of a "Dew" demon dwelling in the tree being cast out of it and expelled from the tree by the archangel Gabriel. In this part of the charm, Lilith is mentioned as a part of this gnostic tree, again rendered in plural.[102]
It’s a Sumerian god/demon that got incorporated into talmudic judaism during their Babylonian exile
Gnosticism is an offshoot of proto-judaism/christianity
Everyone discussing Lilith is discussing the "first wife of Adam," not a screech owl, so it's correct to say that person is not part of the Bible.
Ok that’s cool but it doesn’t change the fact that (a) Lilith appears in the Bible, which is an important fact to consider in the conversation about the Bible and Lilith…
Ok that’s cool but it doesn’t change the fact that (a) Lilith appears in the Bible, which is an important fact to consider in the conversation about the Bible and Lilith…
Considering "lilith" is an owl or something equivalent, no, it's not important.
Do you think the mandeans invented this entity?
No, but it is factually correct that Lilith is also a gnostic character.
Look guys I don’t believe in your sky daddy but don’t you need to be sorrowful to get forgiveness? If I were to just start punching Jesus in the face I don’t think he’s forgive me and Peter would probably knife me to death.
Jesus would offer forgiveness, after beating the devil out of you... he gave it to people he knew were truly repenting, he offered it to everyone though.
The father they want us to follow as an example of: this weakling
The REAL father we should copy: Gary Plauche
to be somewhat fair, if the father was going to go for the guy, it'd be all in his interest to feign forgiveness.
Because it enables left-wing sociopathy, it's par for the course at this point
Fake Christians, frankly. Of which there are plenty. I call them Churchians.
In Christianity, forgiveness requires contrition. The thug that murdered his son is almost certainly not sorry nor has he sought out the family of his victim to ask for it.
Secondly, when real Christians offer "forgiveness" person to person, as in "as we forgive those who trespass against us" is more or less an English mistranslation. It means to abandon hot blooded vengeance against the perpetrator. It does not mean not punishing them, but rather to do so dispassionately because it's the right thing to do.
In essence, in proper Christianity forgiving a murderer means offering them the chance for the last rites before you cut off their head. Not this spineless cuckoldry.
I am going to steal this, well said.
Exactly justice ≠ revenge as justice ≠ mercy
That’s pretty interesting. You got a source for that?
Catholic school.
Fuck that nog and fuck that cuck dad
And the stupid bitch yapping about knowing the new revised version of judeo-jesus.
How come if a black guy kills white people it is never a race thing and we now that instantly.
Because only rare things are newsworthy.
Nitter link.
Video.
Also saw this while I was doing OP's job.
The father is a coward. He likely caved to the "crisis management" team that probably paid him a visit. The nice men from the government who come visit you when a family member gets murdered by a black kid.
How curious that team didn't get cut by the DOGE
To be fair they're apparently actually pretty good at their job, so it's not strictly an efficiency issue.
It's more of a moral issue that the DOJ has teams of people whose job is to harass the families of specific murder victims.
Ah yes, the DOJ's "Community Relations Service". They show up after stuff like this and either intimidate the parents or bribe them.
Many are called, few are chosen.
It IS the christly thing to do, but forgiving him doesn't mean bending to evil or condoining his actions. Decrying what he did, expecting justice and being clear about the nature of his sin is not inherent in forgiveness. Too many people seem to think forgiveness means being spineless. It means not seeking revenge, not being sinful in turn--but anger and grief are acceptable and necessary emotions for christians too.
People have been trained on a steady diet of "Turn the other cheek (culturally mistranslated)" to think that being a Christian means sitting down, shutting up, and letting everyone else walk all over you. We're called to love our enemies, but you can love someone and still say "What you did was wrong, and you still need to be punished." Forgiveness isn't "We'll just pretend you didn't do anything wrong." It's "You did something wrong, but I'm going to love you, anyway." Mercy can only given to those who genuinely ask for it. Jesus, through His parables, was not kind to those who would abuse His grace.
My dad once said he thinks that the death penalty could be a mercy in of itself, because it gives one a clear time limit to their waste of a life and a chance to get right with God while they have a chance.
Edit: Why am I fully upvoted when I'm agreeing with yamez?
They way he worded it and people not reading the entire post.
Barf. Ned Flanders ruined Christians.
Forgiveness requires contrition and absolution. Absolution requires penance. Sometimes penance is death.
If the killer cries and begs for God's mercy, then I pray he will receive it in the afterlife. But these little shits are always beyond saving.
Finally a based comment in a sea of cuckery
What did Jesus say about harming children?
Oh, yes. Rock, rope, large body of water.
Sounds like good advise to me.
Yup. Matthew 18:6
Sounds good to me! All those loonies who claim Jesus wouldn't hurt anyone? He sure would! If they deserved it, like the moneychangers.
Yeah, the modern Judeo-Hippie Jesus needs to go. Look at John seeing the risen Christ (Revelation 1 12-18). This isn't a granola-eating, Prius-driving go-along-get-along type. This is sacrificial third of the Triune Godhead. "Behold, I am alive evermore... and have the keys of Hell and of death."
I will disagree. Forgiveness does not mean that the perpetrator should be released from prison, or that the act of forgiveness eliminates the crime. That is a lie by secular culture.
Yes, the crusaders and inquisitors sure were cucked ''love thy neighbors and let everyone walk over you'' faggots. Wonder who's in favor from these ''judeo Christian'' values.
cucks
Forgiveness is a personal thing. What is interesting to me is this continuing trend of white people denying the racial aspects of these crimes. It creates an idea that racism is greater than murder. And of course racism can only be leveled against whites.
the sin is to reject someone who is genuine in his desire to repent and change his life accordingly. i doubt this applies in this specific case.
Oh look, a gen X'er groveling instead of standing up for themselves again. 🙄
I have a few questions.
Is there a text that explains how repentance and forgiveness should work between men? And wishfully in that context, what repentance fully entails? The Lord's Prayer pleads God "forgive us our sins/debts/trespasses, as we forgive those who [sin] against us," but I think there must be some difference in a man's ability from God's to know someone's sincerity in repentance.
Then, I think there is some missing discourse about this (possibly) modern routine of publicized forgiveness. Wouldn't this go against the old teachings against what amounts to virtue signaling (e.g. don't pray out loud for others to hear)?
This guy probably doesn't actually forgive the fucker, he's just virtue signaling. True forgiveness is a personal matter between two people, not to be trumpeted on the daily news.
We are told by Christ not to do our acts of charity in front of people to be honored by them but privately before our heavenly father.
The father was most definitely paid a visit by the DOJ’s Community Relations Service. The job of CRS is specifically to downplay and/or cover up hate crimes against White people by convincing the victim’s family members to publicly say that they believe race played no role in the attack, and that blacks are great people, even though they’re violent assholes who hate Whites. CRS doesn’t do that on the rare occasion where a White person attacks/kills a negro, whether it was justified or not, media jumps in and says race definitely played a role in the attack, just to keep the “racist Whites are everywhere” myth alive in order to stir up even more anti White hatred and attacks. You don’t hate ZOG enough. And btw, there’s a CRS type of agency in every White nation being inundated by brown immigration.
All these idiots forget that just because someone is forgiven, it doesn't mean they're exempt from punishment.
They'll make a "documentary-style movie" out of this but race-swap the two kids. Just like that British show did. (Took a violent Black kid & cast a White kid for his role in a real-life crime story)
Unironically one of the most fitting lines for this kind of situation came from the Jew Ken Levine trying to mock us:
That painting where the angel John Wilkes Booth shot the devil Lincoln was pretty based too.
Honestly the whole game suffers a lot from the Starship Troopers syndrome of making all the elements you are supposed to hate look awesome.
And then fucks it up even further by making the "sympathetic" side look fucking awful and eviler than their oppressors in every way other than "muh slavery, muh capitalism."
Did God forgive Lilith when he cursed and banished her when she rebelled against his will? Did he forgave the evil humans of the Noa story when he drowned them? Did he forgave the degenerates of Sodom and Gomorah when he nuked them?
These are fake christians. True christianity is, if your harm offend you cut it.
Wasn’t Jesus’s whole “I’m not going to call down angels to save me” deal because he was a literal sacrifice and had to die to open the gate? The misunderstanding seems almost deliberately done and pushed out by people who hate him.
Lilith isn't in the Bible. That's a Gnostic character
Lilith is a talmudic/kabbalistic demon lol, nothing to do with gnosticism
And the word does appear in the Bible but gets translated “screech-owl”, though not in reference to any “first wife of Adam” nonsense
Everyone discussing Lilith is discussing the "first wife of Adam," not a screech owl, so it's correct to say that person is not part of the Bible.
Mandaenism is a gnostic religion.
Do you think the mandeans invented this entity?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamashtu
It’s a Sumerian god/demon that got incorporated into talmudic judaism during their Babylonian exile
Gnosticism is an offshoot of proto-judaism/christianity
Ok that’s cool but it doesn’t change the fact that (a) Lilith appears in the Bible, which is an important fact to consider in the conversation about the Bible and Lilith…
Considering "lilith" is an owl or something equivalent, no, it's not important.
No, but it is factually correct that Lilith is also a gnostic character.
Old Testament is a bad example - previous edition ruleset being obsolete and all.
You're much better giving someone like Ananias & Sapphira
*Asherah/Astaroth
Look guys I don’t believe in your sky daddy but don’t you need to be sorrowful to get forgiveness? If I were to just start punching Jesus in the face I don’t think he’s forgive me and Peter would probably knife me to death.
"Sky daddy" lmfao you are such a fag
Classic impish amirite?
Jesus would offer forgiveness, after beating the devil out of you... he gave it to people he knew were truly repenting, he offered it to everyone though.
When the Romans came for Jesus, Peter cut off the ear of a Roman. Jesus healed the man's ear.
Jesus healed the ear of the high priest's servant.
I'm not so sure the high priest himself would have received the same treatment had his ear been cut off...