On the contrary, virtually every adult male in the Muslim world routinely sexually abuses children, often after marrying them, and not only has the US military never done anything about it, but American troops in Iraq and Afghanistan were expressly ordered to stand by and let it happen.
It's not what the US would do if 'a Muslim was a rapist,' it's what they'd do if an intelligence-connected mastermind Islamist ran an op against our leaders and collected a bunch of kompromat.
And he's right that we'd absolutely be going to war against whoever we blamed for it.
Again, the argument isn't 'what if a Muslim was a rapist,' it's specifically 'what if there were a blackmail ring against our most influential people, and we could blame it on [insert_Muslim_country_here]?'
And the answer is nothing. Somalia ran an op to install one of theirs in Congress and we don't throw her out or shoot her. We don't go to war against their misbegotten country of shit eaters.
Nothing. That's not what would happen, that's what did happen already.
No, everyone got OP's point just fine. His point is "jews amirite?"
Qatar pushes major funds into the Republican party while actively funding Hamas.
Saudi Arabia was never really held to account for the actions of Bin Laden. Nor the fighters it funded in Iraq and Syria.
Britain has done nothing about a major pakistani rape spree against children, and the current government has repeatedly protected them.
The truth is that the powerful, corrupt, kiddie-fucking elites aren't solely and exclusively jews jewing for jewrey. There are multiple other factions, agendas, operations, and leaders outside of the single most reductive possible argument that someone can make.
No, everyone got OP's point just fine. His point is "jews amirite?"
Shocker, that's your take.
Look, just to quote a few top comments here (top level comments by upvotes #1, #2, and #3, excluding my own):
On the contrary, virtually every adult male in the Muslim world routinely sexually abuses children, often after marrying them, and not only has the US military never done anything about...
Young boys are routinely, and often culturally raped by many man like that...
the Warlords in Afghanistan and what the ones the US supported did to young boys...
People missed the point.
You can argue 'muh Jews' if you want, but my point is people missed the nuance, and I stand by that. Everyone missed it, somehow.
Qatar pushes major funds into the Republican party while actively funding Hamas.
Israel funds the Republicans, Qatar, and Hamas.
Saudi Arabia was never really held to account for the actions of Bin Laden. Nor the fighters it funded in Iraq and Syria.
Because we held Iraq and Afghanistan to account...at the behest of Israel.
The truth is that the powerful, corrupt, kiddie-fucking elites aren't solely and exclusively jews jewing for jewrey.
We know that it's true that if Jeffery Epstein was a Muslim, the client list would have been released, three middle eastern countries would be air-striked and Guantanamo would be at max capacity.
This asserts that the only reason that the Epstein list wasn't released is because jews are to blame. You are trying to change OP's stupid argument to make it less retarded. The assertion is, once again, that everything is a permanent, intertermporal, jewish race war against the universe. The only reason that powerful people have anything is because somehow jews controlled everything in the known universe and caused all bad things to happen ever.
Israel funds both parties, and doesn't significantly fund Qatar because they are the primary supporters of Hamas. I do not accept the level of stupidity needed to accept the conspiracy theory by jew haters that no one hates jews enough to commit terrorist attacks against them so jews have to pay for terrorism against themselves.
Iraq and Afghanistan weren't held to account for anything except bordering Iran. Israel had little to do with it.
This asserts that the only reason that the Epstein list wasn't released is because jews are to blame.
Objection, your honor; mindreading.
But seriously. OP hates the Jews. That's established. Also, neither here nor there. And why do you care?
Point is, no, that's not the only interpretation. Because we're talking not just ethnicities/religions, but countries. Jewy Jewish Jews aside, it's worth talking about Israel, who is - at the very least - tangentially connected to the Epstein ring. It's less about Jews, and more about Our Greatest Ally. If Epstein had been operating for Iran instead of Israel, we'd be hearing a different story. OP is correct about that, no matter how you feel about him, or how he feels about ze Jews.
The assertion is, once again, that everything is a permanent, intertermporal, jewish race war against the universe.
Dom, don't you have some weirdass mindreading modding to do?
Israel funds both parties, and doesn't significantly fund Qatar because they are the primary supporters of Hamas.
"Significantly?" Why are they funding Qatar at all i they're so closely linked to Hamas, who is Giga Hitler? Also, isn't Qatar the one the give money to specifically to send to Hamas? Because they actually like Hamas, but it gives them an excuse for annexation? "No partner for peace!"
I do not accept the level of stupidity needed to accept the conspiracy theory by jew haters that no one hates jews enough to commit terrorist attacks against them so jews have to pay for terrorism against themselves.
My least favorite style of argument. This is Snopes fact checking level or strawman. Of course attacks against Jews are genuine. But, also, some of them aren't. Just like any other group. Being a victim pays. There is incentive to being the aggrieved party.
Iraq and Afghanistan weren't held to account for anything except bordering Iran. Israel had little to do with it.
You literally had multiple top-level Israeli officials pushing for overthrowing all three of those countries at that time. Come on.
You must have been skipping a lot of classes being held at Conspiracy University. Epstein was Mossad. Ghislaine Maxwell is Mossad. Ghislaine Maxwell's dad was Mossad. All of the blackmailers are Mossad.
Er, should anyone tell him about the Warlords in Afghanistan and what the ones the US supported did to young boys...
Unfortunately I kinda believe this is what happens when you don't have strong leadership at the top and institutions, you try to rule by vice and blackmail from said vice.
In other cultures they simply go 'comply or we'll kill/make you disappear'. Others get through with a strong traditional society setup. The West plies vices (sex, drugs, money etc) to control people and what better way to control people than making them have sex with minors abd using that info to blackmail them.
you want my take? I bet Trump being on the Epstein list is real, along with pretty much everyone else in high places in DC. preventing the list from being released is a bipartisan issue.
Unless the media being against Trump is pure political theater, that all of them are involved in, just like pro wrestling. They don't reveal information that would actually damage Trump, and implicate the string pullers at the same time, as that would undo the entire charade and reveal the circus being performed.
Take what you know of the people in power, how they act, what their repeated pattern of behaviors are, what they've been doing to us, and what they believe (not what they say), and apply it universally. It makes the world make a lot more sense, and you can cut through the bullshit and lies, through their words (almost invariably all lies), and figure out what their true agendas are, what they're hiding, and what their plans (present and future) are.
We know the people in power are liars. They've lied to us about literally everything (not an exaggeration). We also know both sides of politics are controlled by the same people, and the different political sides are used as a false choice dichotomy, a control mechanism arrayed against the populace, so that no matter which option we choose, we lose and they win. We also know they offer us false choice saviors, people we think will lead and help us, but constantly stab us in the back, and serve their true masters. We also know they control Hollywood, media, news, schools, textbooks, and history. They literally conjure their fake "reality" out of thin air, and try to convince us of the truth. They've been doing it for decades. They've committed numerous false flags, and pretty much every way we've fought for the last 100 years has been under false flag or false pretenses, all supported and pushed by every sector of society they control. If anyone dare speak out against it, they're censored, deplatformed, debanked, imprisoned, maligned, ruined, and/or murdered.
There are concrete ways to determine if an organization or leader is genuine or not. They all believe, speak, and act in the same ways. Use those metrics to judge. Stop believing anything they say, and measure them by their fruits. Out of the preponderance of what's in their heart, is the fruits they bare.
Now, this could just be me wanting there to be some good in the world, and everything not to be utter degenerate and evil shit, but I generally believe Trump. But I also believe he's 100% got some of these people in his cabinet and, yes, they will stonewall.
Also, as smart people have been pointing out for a while...there probably is no government "Epstein list." If there's a list, it's in private or off the books black ops hands. There's enough corruption that any actual government list was likely purged long ago.
It was stupid for Trump to promise so big, when it was impossible. Who knows - again, wishful thinking - maybe there's some 4D Chess™ going on and there will be some big surprise, but generally I think the idea of the government releasing an official list was always a pipedream.
At this point, there is no justice left in our society.
If he is, and I wouldn't be 100% shocked by it given the very light evidence so far, I'd still demand everyone in Congress, Hollywood and the Finance sector offer up their lives as payment before I offer Trump's.
We are past "holding ourselves accountable" until the other side is willing to first. Even in this kind of disgusting situation, which is what they bank on. Us being too disgusted to fight back.
Nah, a rich guy falling into degeneracy, or a honey pot, and committing an act of top tier evil doesn't suddenly make him equal to people who destroyed multiple nations to line their pockets and destroyed everything we hold sacred, while also doing that exact same evil.
If he is on it, put him with the woodchipper. But he goes after them, just to prove that they care about enforcing justice and aren't simply using it to remove an obstacle in their path.
If they had that much perfect control over everything, Epstein himself would have never been caught (twice) and would have been able to openly mock us forever with how blatant he was.
Not everyone on earth was one of Epstein's clients. If Trump were, it doesn't necessarily mean anyone else in particular or any quantity of other people must also be.
openly mock us forever with how blatant he was
This stunt Bondi and the e-celebs are doing looks like mockery to me.
Not everyone on earth was one of Epstein's clients.
With the on record connections we already know he has, its two steps from basically every federal government in the West, and most in it. That's enough for them to have everything under their thumb if they actually had control on the level for Trump to be a triple whammy controlled agent.
This stunt Bondi and the e-celebs are doing looks like mockery to me.
It does, but it wouldn't have even gotten this far if they weren't all clowns. Unfortunately, Bondi seems to just be a "woman in government" level retard instead of a cool, controlled agent doing this.
The big lynchpin comes down to why Trump was seen with him later after banning him for being a sexual deviant in the past. Its the only real "deconfirmation" of Trump turning on the guy.
The possibilities range from completely neutral (forgot entirely, didn't want to ruin Trump's party/atmosphere) to the absolute worst.
But he at least acknowledged and said something, while also putting in some token efforts against ol' Eppy, which is on file and puts him miles ahead of nearly everyone else on the list.
But Trump also acknowledged he knew what Epstein was involved in, before Epstein was charged, when Trump said something along the lines of "he likes them young".
Both of them were older men at that point. That could be as simple as a Leonardo DiCaprio situation as "likes young hot things (legal)." It could easily mean otherwise, absolutely, but its not hard confirmation either.
Again, nothing regarding those two is concrete enough to escape "two rich men being rich near each other." There is plenty of space for that to exist, but nothing we have on hand.
Yeah, and many of those men there usually had arm candy at that were barely legal. Its not hard to mistake a 14 year old for an 18 year old under 40 lbs of makeup and them not talking, as would be the case at these ridiculous parties.
We know what Epstein did, its pretty well documented how bad it is from what little we have already.
The point I am making is that Trump's statement has enough plausible deniability that he wasn't 100% confirmed knew Epstein was involved with actual minors as "likes em young" was pretty common at the time among the elite of anything from pedos to just "barely legal" ones. It was common enough that Oingo Boingo made a chart topping song mocking the problem in the 80s.
We're not talking about barely legal girls. We're talking about kids, children, and even babies.
The point I am making is that Trump's statement has enough plausible deniability that he wasn't 100% confirmed knew Epstein was involved with actual minors as "likes em young" was pretty common at the time among the elite of anything from pedos to just "barely legal" ones. It was common enough that Oingo Boingo made a chart topping song mocking the problem in the 80s.
Do you apply this same excuse to everyone who knew about the casting couches and predatory hiring producers in Hollywood, like Harvey Weinstein? Everyone in Hollywood knew what he was doing, and let it happen. Many even made jokes about it on TV and on award ceremony shows. It was an open secret in Hollywood. Why do you excuse Trump, and the "friends" he kept, the open secret of the vile evils they committed, while (I assume) you condemn Hollywood for the same thing?
Doesnt make sense because almost all politicians would be in support (and already instituted) sharia law if this were the case.
We would not see muslims the way we do right now if they had a huge worldwide sex trafficking blackmail network on all of our politicians and powerful people. We would have a completely different perspective that wouldnt involve bombing the Middle East.
They would have control of our media and public perception as well.
On the contrary, virtually every adult male in the Muslim world routinely sexually abuses children, often after marrying them, and not only has the US military never done anything about it, but American troops in Iraq and Afghanistan were expressly ordered to stand by and let it happen.
And often their own relatives. The arab race's astonishingly low average IQ is not a little bit because their vile religion allows inbreeding.
We know the Saudis support terrorism, even in Iraq while we were there. There's not been any real action against them.
Qatar is funded almost entirely by it's US military base and it supports ISIS and Hamas.
Don't forget animals. The do love fucking goats and other defenseless things
I think people are missing OP's point.
It's not what the US would do if 'a Muslim was a rapist,' it's what they'd do if an intelligence-connected mastermind Islamist ran an op against our leaders and collected a bunch of kompromat.
And he's right that we'd absolutely be going to war against whoever we blamed for it.
Again, the argument isn't 'what if a Muslim was a rapist,' it's specifically 'what if there were a blackmail ring against our most influential people, and we could blame it on [insert_Muslim_country_here]?'
Well no it would mean those Muslim countries are really who run the world. Anyone who could "go to war" against them is compromised.
And the answer is nothing. Somalia ran an op to install one of theirs in Congress and we don't throw her out or shoot her. We don't go to war against their misbegotten country of shit eaters.
Nothing. That's not what would happen, that's what did happen already.
A lot of people don’t understand what’s going on in Minnesota. I get weekly updates from a friend who has lived in the Twin Cities his entire life.
We have retarded white leftists to thank for Ilhan Omar. They are the ones who voted her in alongside “her people”.
And the people responsible for the exploding Somalian population in Minnesota? Drumroll please… the Lutherans.
No, everyone got OP's point just fine. His point is "jews amirite?"
Qatar pushes major funds into the Republican party while actively funding Hamas.
Saudi Arabia was never really held to account for the actions of Bin Laden. Nor the fighters it funded in Iraq and Syria.
Britain has done nothing about a major pakistani rape spree against children, and the current government has repeatedly protected them.
The truth is that the powerful, corrupt, kiddie-fucking elites aren't solely and exclusively jews jewing for jewrey. There are multiple other factions, agendas, operations, and leaders outside of the single most reductive possible argument that someone can make.
Shocker, that's your take.
Look, just to quote a few top comments here (top level comments by upvotes #1, #2, and #3, excluding my own):
People missed the point.
You can argue 'muh Jews' if you want, but my point is people missed the nuance, and I stand by that. Everyone missed it, somehow.
Israel funds the Republicans, Qatar, and Hamas.
Because we held Iraq and Afghanistan to account...at the behest of Israel.
Of course not. Never said they were. Duh.
They didnt miss the point, those are the local jew posters, check their comment history and you will see what I mean.
Correct. That's confirmed by the fact that paid Zio-shills like Gizortnik and Kienan are attacking the post.
Wait, what?
Have I been promoted from "Nazi" to "Zio-shill" now?
No one missed the point. The point was:
This asserts that the only reason that the Epstein list wasn't released is because jews are to blame. You are trying to change OP's stupid argument to make it less retarded. The assertion is, once again, that everything is a permanent, intertermporal, jewish race war against the universe. The only reason that powerful people have anything is because somehow jews controlled everything in the known universe and caused all bad things to happen ever.
Israel funds both parties, and doesn't significantly fund Qatar because they are the primary supporters of Hamas. I do not accept the level of stupidity needed to accept the conspiracy theory by jew haters that no one hates jews enough to commit terrorist attacks against them so jews have to pay for terrorism against themselves.
Iraq and Afghanistan weren't held to account for anything except bordering Iran. Israel had little to do with it.
Objection, your honor; mindreading.
But seriously. OP hates the Jews. That's established. Also, neither here nor there. And why do you care?
Point is, no, that's not the only interpretation. Because we're talking not just ethnicities/religions, but countries. Jewy Jewish Jews aside, it's worth talking about Israel, who is - at the very least - tangentially connected to the Epstein ring. It's less about Jews, and more about Our Greatest Ally. If Epstein had been operating for Iran instead of Israel, we'd be hearing a different story. OP is correct about that, no matter how you feel about him, or how he feels about ze Jews.
Dom, don't you have some weirdass mindreading modding to do?
"Significantly?" Why are they funding Qatar at all i they're so closely linked to Hamas, who is Giga Hitler? Also, isn't Qatar the one the give money to specifically to send to Hamas? Because they actually like Hamas, but it gives them an excuse for annexation? "No partner for peace!"
My least favorite style of argument. This is Snopes fact checking level or strawman. Of course attacks against Jews are genuine. But, also, some of them aren't. Just like any other group. Being a victim pays. There is incentive to being the aggrieved party.
You literally had multiple top-level Israeli officials pushing for overthrowing all three of those countries at that time. Come on.
What evidence is there that the Israeli government was involved in the Epstein operation? And no, the mere fact that he was Jewish doesn't count.
You must have been skipping a lot of classes being held at Conspiracy University. Epstein was Mossad. Ghislaine Maxwell is Mossad. Ghislaine Maxwell's dad was Mossad. All of the blackmailers are Mossad.
People aren't "missing" OP's point, but Zionist stooges are obscuring it with "whataboutism."
Yeah, no.
Young boys are routinely, and often culturally raped by many man like that.
Young girls are routinely, and frequently culturally married then raped by many men like that.
Er, should anyone tell him about the Warlords in Afghanistan and what the ones the US supported did to young boys...
Unfortunately I kinda believe this is what happens when you don't have strong leadership at the top and institutions, you try to rule by vice and blackmail from said vice.
In other cultures they simply go 'comply or we'll kill/make you disappear'. Others get through with a strong traditional society setup. The West plies vices (sex, drugs, money etc) to control people and what better way to control people than making them have sex with minors abd using that info to blackmail them.
.....too many people in the West need Jesus..
They'd just blame "Asians" and imprison anybody who dares to talk about it,
you want my take? I bet Trump being on the Epstein list is real, along with pretty much everyone else in high places in DC. preventing the list from being released is a bipartisan issue.
Could be, but I’d imagine the press would’ve been all over it if he was
True, unless it would be impossible to release without implicating their favorite stooges.
Unless the media being against Trump is pure political theater, that all of them are involved in, just like pro wrestling. They don't reveal information that would actually damage Trump, and implicate the string pullers at the same time, as that would undo the entire charade and reveal the circus being performed.
Never thought of that but definitely possible
Take what you know of the people in power, how they act, what their repeated pattern of behaviors are, what they've been doing to us, and what they believe (not what they say), and apply it universally. It makes the world make a lot more sense, and you can cut through the bullshit and lies, through their words (almost invariably all lies), and figure out what their true agendas are, what they're hiding, and what their plans (present and future) are.
We know the people in power are liars. They've lied to us about literally everything (not an exaggeration). We also know both sides of politics are controlled by the same people, and the different political sides are used as a false choice dichotomy, a control mechanism arrayed against the populace, so that no matter which option we choose, we lose and they win. We also know they offer us false choice saviors, people we think will lead and help us, but constantly stab us in the back, and serve their true masters. We also know they control Hollywood, media, news, schools, textbooks, and history. They literally conjure their fake "reality" out of thin air, and try to convince us of the truth. They've been doing it for decades. They've committed numerous false flags, and pretty much every way we've fought for the last 100 years has been under false flag or false pretenses, all supported and pushed by every sector of society they control. If anyone dare speak out against it, they're censored, deplatformed, debanked, imprisoned, maligned, ruined, and/or murdered.
There are concrete ways to determine if an organization or leader is genuine or not. They all believe, speak, and act in the same ways. Use those metrics to judge. Stop believing anything they say, and measure them by their fruits. Out of the preponderance of what's in their heart, is the fruits they bare.
No way, they are also all on that list so they can't touch it, its kryptonite.
Now, this could just be me wanting there to be some good in the world, and everything not to be utter degenerate and evil shit, but I generally believe Trump. But I also believe he's 100% got some of these people in his cabinet and, yes, they will stonewall.
Also, as smart people have been pointing out for a while...there probably is no government "Epstein list." If there's a list, it's in private or off the books black ops hands. There's enough corruption that any actual government list was likely purged long ago.
It was stupid for Trump to promise so big, when it was impossible. Who knows - again, wishful thinking - maybe there's some 4D Chess™ going on and there will be some big surprise, but generally I think the idea of the government releasing an official list was always a pipedream.
At this point, there is no justice left in our society.
If he is, and I wouldn't be 100% shocked by it given the very light evidence so far, I'd still demand everyone in Congress, Hollywood and the Finance sector offer up their lives as payment before I offer Trump's.
We are past "holding ourselves accountable" until the other side is willing to first. Even in this kind of disgusting situation, which is what they bank on. Us being too disgusted to fight back.
all child rapists get the woodchipper. All at once. No exceptions.
If you can set up all, I agree entirely.
The problem is that "all" isn't going to happen if he goes in. It'll be him and then the rest laugh into the sunset.
Point wasn't to spare anyone, its that he gets to go in the back of the line to prove their commitment to also caring about this evil.
If he's on that list, any separation between him and "Congress, Hollywood and the Finance sector" is imaginary.
Nah, a rich guy falling into degeneracy, or a honey pot, and committing an act of top tier evil doesn't suddenly make him equal to people who destroyed multiple nations to line their pockets and destroyed everything we hold sacred, while also doing that exact same evil.
If he is on it, put him with the woodchipper. But he goes after them, just to prove that they care about enforcing justice and aren't simply using it to remove an obstacle in their path.
If he's on the list, he's on a tight leash and isn't really going after them.
If they had that much perfect control over everything, Epstein himself would have never been caught (twice) and would have been able to openly mock us forever with how blatant he was.
Not everyone on earth was one of Epstein's clients. If Trump were, it doesn't necessarily mean anyone else in particular or any quantity of other people must also be.
This stunt Bondi and the e-celebs are doing looks like mockery to me.
With the on record connections we already know he has, its two steps from basically every federal government in the West, and most in it. That's enough for them to have everything under their thumb if they actually had control on the level for Trump to be a triple whammy controlled agent.
It does, but it wouldn't have even gotten this far if they weren't all clowns. Unfortunately, Bondi seems to just be a "woman in government" level retard instead of a cool, controlled agent doing this.
It's a known fact they knew each other. They were frequently at each other's parties in NYC. The sticky wicket is if Trump was at "those" parties
The big lynchpin comes down to why Trump was seen with him later after banning him for being a sexual deviant in the past. Its the only real "deconfirmation" of Trump turning on the guy.
The possibilities range from completely neutral (forgot entirely, didn't want to ruin Trump's party/atmosphere) to the absolute worst.
But he at least acknowledged and said something, while also putting in some token efforts against ol' Eppy, which is on file and puts him miles ahead of nearly everyone else on the list.
But Trump also acknowledged he knew what Epstein was involved in, before Epstein was charged, when Trump said something along the lines of "he likes them young".
Both of them were older men at that point. That could be as simple as a Leonardo DiCaprio situation as "likes young hot things (legal)." It could easily mean otherwise, absolutely, but its not hard confirmation either.
Again, nothing regarding those two is concrete enough to escape "two rich men being rich near each other." There is plenty of space for that to exist, but nothing we have on hand.
Uh huh. Sure.
We're talking about Epstein, someone that abducted, trafficked, raped, tortured, and murdered children, and helped other people do the same.
We're not talking about the average guy who prefers younger women, but actual women, not kids.
Yeah, and many of those men there usually had arm candy at that were barely legal. Its not hard to mistake a 14 year old for an 18 year old under 40 lbs of makeup and them not talking, as would be the case at these ridiculous parties.
We know what Epstein did, its pretty well documented how bad it is from what little we have already.
The point I am making is that Trump's statement has enough plausible deniability that he wasn't 100% confirmed knew Epstein was involved with actual minors as "likes em young" was pretty common at the time among the elite of anything from pedos to just "barely legal" ones. It was common enough that Oingo Boingo made a chart topping song mocking the problem in the 80s.
We're not talking about barely legal girls. We're talking about kids, children, and even babies.
Do you apply this same excuse to everyone who knew about the casting couches and predatory hiring producers in Hollywood, like Harvey Weinstein? Everyone in Hollywood knew what he was doing, and let it happen. Many even made jokes about it on TV and on award ceremony shows. It was an open secret in Hollywood. Why do you excuse Trump, and the "friends" he kept, the open secret of the vile evils they committed, while (I assume) you condemn Hollywood for the same thing?
Pedo gangs exploited thousands of kids in Rotherham for years - cops and politicians knew and did nothing.
If anything, Epstein being a muslim would have acted as a shield rather than a reason to go after him harder.
Right, the OP is an idiot. Europe has been full of rape gangs for years, nobody was bombed and barely anybody went to jail as a result.
Doesnt make sense because almost all politicians would be in support (and already instituted) sharia law if this were the case.
We would not see muslims the way we do right now if they had a huge worldwide sex trafficking blackmail network on all of our politicians and powerful people. We would have a completely different perspective that wouldnt involve bombing the Middle East.
They would have control of our media and public perception as well.
NOPE!
https://x.com/RahaTalous/status/1746855761894883688
The austrian one nut douche you mean.