you want my take? I bet Trump being on the Epstein list is real, along with pretty much everyone else in high places in DC. preventing the list from being released is a bipartisan issue.
Unless the media being against Trump is pure political theater, that all of them are involved in, just like pro wrestling. They don't reveal information that would actually damage Trump, and implicate the string pullers at the same time, as that would undo the entire charade and reveal the circus being performed.
Take what you know of the people in power, how they act, what their repeated pattern of behaviors are, what they've been doing to us, and what they believe (not what they say), and apply it universally. It makes the world make a lot more sense, and you can cut through the bullshit and lies, through their words (almost invariably all lies), and figure out what their true agendas are, what they're hiding, and what their plans (present and future) are.
We know the people in power are liars. They've lied to us about literally everything (not an exaggeration). We also know both sides of politics are controlled by the same people, and the different political sides are used as a false choice dichotomy, a control mechanism arrayed against the populace, so that no matter which option we choose, we lose and they win. We also know they offer us false choice saviors, people we think will lead and help us, but constantly stab us in the back, and serve their true masters. We also know they control Hollywood, media, news, schools, textbooks, and history. They literally conjure their fake "reality" out of thin air, and try to convince us of the truth. They've been doing it for decades. They've committed numerous false flags, and pretty much every way we've fought for the last 100 years has been under false flag or false pretenses, all supported and pushed by every sector of society they control. If anyone dare speak out against it, they're censored, deplatformed, debanked, imprisoned, maligned, ruined, and/or murdered.
There are concrete ways to determine if an organization or leader is genuine or not. They all believe, speak, and act in the same ways. Use those metrics to judge. Stop believing anything they say, and measure them by their fruits. Out of the preponderance of what's in their heart, is the fruits they bare.
Now, this could just be me wanting there to be some good in the world, and everything not to be utter degenerate and evil shit, but I generally believe Trump. But I also believe he's 100% got some of these people in his cabinet and, yes, they will stonewall.
Also, as smart people have been pointing out for a while...there probably is no government "Epstein list." If there's a list, it's in private or off the books black ops hands. There's enough corruption that any actual government list was likely purged long ago.
It was stupid for Trump to promise so big, when it was impossible. Who knows - again, wishful thinking - maybe there's some 4D Chess™ going on and there will be some big surprise, but generally I think the idea of the government releasing an official list was always a pipedream.
At this point, there is no justice left in our society.
If he is, and I wouldn't be 100% shocked by it given the very light evidence so far, I'd still demand everyone in Congress, Hollywood and the Finance sector offer up their lives as payment before I offer Trump's.
We are past "holding ourselves accountable" until the other side is willing to first. Even in this kind of disgusting situation, which is what they bank on. Us being too disgusted to fight back.
Nah, a rich guy falling into degeneracy, or a honey pot, and committing an act of top tier evil doesn't suddenly make him equal to people who destroyed multiple nations to line their pockets and destroyed everything we hold sacred, while also doing that exact same evil.
If he is on it, put him with the woodchipper. But he goes after them, just to prove that they care about enforcing justice and aren't simply using it to remove an obstacle in their path.
The big lynchpin comes down to why Trump was seen with him later after banning him for being a sexual deviant in the past. Its the only real "deconfirmation" of Trump turning on the guy.
The possibilities range from completely neutral (forgot entirely, didn't want to ruin Trump's party/atmosphere) to the absolute worst.
But he at least acknowledged and said something, while also putting in some token efforts against ol' Eppy, which is on file and puts him miles ahead of nearly everyone else on the list.
But Trump also acknowledged he knew what Epstein was involved in, before Epstein was charged, when Trump said something along the lines of "he likes them young".
Both of them were older men at that point. That could be as simple as a Leonardo DiCaprio situation as "likes young hot things (legal)." It could easily mean otherwise, absolutely, but its not hard confirmation either.
Again, nothing regarding those two is concrete enough to escape "two rich men being rich near each other." There is plenty of space for that to exist, but nothing we have on hand.
you want my take? I bet Trump being on the Epstein list is real, along with pretty much everyone else in high places in DC. preventing the list from being released is a bipartisan issue.
Could be, but I’d imagine the press would’ve been all over it if he was
True, unless it would be impossible to release without implicating their favorite stooges.
Unless the media being against Trump is pure political theater, that all of them are involved in, just like pro wrestling. They don't reveal information that would actually damage Trump, and implicate the string pullers at the same time, as that would undo the entire charade and reveal the circus being performed.
Never thought of that but definitely possible
Take what you know of the people in power, how they act, what their repeated pattern of behaviors are, what they've been doing to us, and what they believe (not what they say), and apply it universally. It makes the world make a lot more sense, and you can cut through the bullshit and lies, through their words (almost invariably all lies), and figure out what their true agendas are, what they're hiding, and what their plans (present and future) are.
We know the people in power are liars. They've lied to us about literally everything (not an exaggeration). We also know both sides of politics are controlled by the same people, and the different political sides are used as a false choice dichotomy, a control mechanism arrayed against the populace, so that no matter which option we choose, we lose and they win. We also know they offer us false choice saviors, people we think will lead and help us, but constantly stab us in the back, and serve their true masters. We also know they control Hollywood, media, news, schools, textbooks, and history. They literally conjure their fake "reality" out of thin air, and try to convince us of the truth. They've been doing it for decades. They've committed numerous false flags, and pretty much every way we've fought for the last 100 years has been under false flag or false pretenses, all supported and pushed by every sector of society they control. If anyone dare speak out against it, they're censored, deplatformed, debanked, imprisoned, maligned, ruined, and/or murdered.
There are concrete ways to determine if an organization or leader is genuine or not. They all believe, speak, and act in the same ways. Use those metrics to judge. Stop believing anything they say, and measure them by their fruits. Out of the preponderance of what's in their heart, is the fruits they bare.
No way, they are also all on that list so they can't touch it, its kryptonite.
Now, this could just be me wanting there to be some good in the world, and everything not to be utter degenerate and evil shit, but I generally believe Trump. But I also believe he's 100% got some of these people in his cabinet and, yes, they will stonewall.
Also, as smart people have been pointing out for a while...there probably is no government "Epstein list." If there's a list, it's in private or off the books black ops hands. There's enough corruption that any actual government list was likely purged long ago.
It was stupid for Trump to promise so big, when it was impossible. Who knows - again, wishful thinking - maybe there's some 4D Chess™ going on and there will be some big surprise, but generally I think the idea of the government releasing an official list was always a pipedream.
At this point, there is no justice left in our society.
If he is, and I wouldn't be 100% shocked by it given the very light evidence so far, I'd still demand everyone in Congress, Hollywood and the Finance sector offer up their lives as payment before I offer Trump's.
We are past "holding ourselves accountable" until the other side is willing to first. Even in this kind of disgusting situation, which is what they bank on. Us being too disgusted to fight back.
all child rapists get the woodchipper. All at once. No exceptions.
If you can set up all, I agree entirely.
The problem is that "all" isn't going to happen if he goes in. It'll be him and then the rest laugh into the sunset.
Point wasn't to spare anyone, its that he gets to go in the back of the line to prove their commitment to also caring about this evil.
If he's on that list, any separation between him and "Congress, Hollywood and the Finance sector" is imaginary.
Nah, a rich guy falling into degeneracy, or a honey pot, and committing an act of top tier evil doesn't suddenly make him equal to people who destroyed multiple nations to line their pockets and destroyed everything we hold sacred, while also doing that exact same evil.
If he is on it, put him with the woodchipper. But he goes after them, just to prove that they care about enforcing justice and aren't simply using it to remove an obstacle in their path.
If he's on the list, he's on a tight leash and isn't really going after them.
It's a known fact they knew each other. They were frequently at each other's parties in NYC. The sticky wicket is if Trump was at "those" parties
The big lynchpin comes down to why Trump was seen with him later after banning him for being a sexual deviant in the past. Its the only real "deconfirmation" of Trump turning on the guy.
The possibilities range from completely neutral (forgot entirely, didn't want to ruin Trump's party/atmosphere) to the absolute worst.
But he at least acknowledged and said something, while also putting in some token efforts against ol' Eppy, which is on file and puts him miles ahead of nearly everyone else on the list.
But Trump also acknowledged he knew what Epstein was involved in, before Epstein was charged, when Trump said something along the lines of "he likes them young".
Both of them were older men at that point. That could be as simple as a Leonardo DiCaprio situation as "likes young hot things (legal)." It could easily mean otherwise, absolutely, but its not hard confirmation either.
Again, nothing regarding those two is concrete enough to escape "two rich men being rich near each other." There is plenty of space for that to exist, but nothing we have on hand.