We're not talking about barely legal girls. We're talking about kids, children, and even babies.
The point I am making is that Trump's statement has enough plausible deniability that he wasn't 100% confirmed knew Epstein was involved with actual minors as "likes em young" was pretty common at the time among the elite of anything from pedos to just "barely legal" ones. It was common enough that Oingo Boingo made a chart topping song mocking the problem in the 80s.
Do you apply this same excuse to everyone who knew about the casting couches and predatory hiring producers in Hollywood, like Harvey Weinstein? Everyone in Hollywood knew what he was doing, and let it happen. Many even made jokes about it on TV and on award ceremony shows. It was an open secret in Hollywood. Why do you excuse Trump, and the "friends" he kept, the open secret of the vile evils they committed, while (I assume) you condemn Hollywood for the same thing?
I am. He said the word "young" which could mean either or in these cases because there is a long history of both with that kind of degenerate elite.
You seem to be too used to using Leftie tactics of "say scary words to instantly win" to parse the point I am making. So I'll reiterate and see if you can this time.
Trump noted Epstein's desire for young girls. He said it vaguely enough that it isn't hard confirmed he knew it was literally underaged women instead of just young trophy models. You know, the thing that many rich guys across the world do pretty openly, picking up dumb, arm candy that are barely of age but still are, legally.
This is given extra weight given that Trump was one of the few people to actually even work against Epstein later, even if it wasn't a whole lot. Its a small amount of smoke in both directions that means the wind could blow in either direction without surprise.
Harvey Weinstein
Adult women are allowed to be retarded and suffer the consequences of being "free." That includes the right to be preyed on to make more money than most of us combined ever will. I literally do not care about them.
You know, the same way that despite my point saying "rich powerful men are abusing their power to use legal but young women as objects" you have zero objection to that. You in fact care so little you just brush it aside to talk about something else.
Try not to point a hypocrite argument if your example literally makes you look like one. Again, not helping that "used to using Leftie tactics" position.
Why do you excuse Trump
I didn't. I said multiple times to other comments that he goes in the chipper too if its confirmed. You brought in weak ass evidence as if it was gospel and thought you could say "RAPING BABIES RAPING BABIES" and just win by leveraging emotion.
I am. He said the word "young" which could mean either or in these cases because there is a long history of both with that kind of degenerate elite.
I know, which is why I'm trying to correct your incredibly naïve assertion that Trump, or anyone discussing Epstein, would ever be alluding to anything other than kids. "Young", when talking about Epstein, isn't about girls or boys that are 18, or 19, or 20. It's referring to girls and boys who are 17, 16, 15, 14, 13, and younger. We know this. The entire Pizzagate investigation revealed the true horror of what was happening. It was that investigation which led to the arrest of Epstein. Did you not follow that internet investigation at all? I can share links for you, showing how repugnant it is, how young the kids were and are (although it'll probably have to be via private message or on ConPro, because this website, weirdly, has global censors to any links of it).
You're using your fake naivety as a shield, to protect and give excuse for Trump because of "plausible deniability", when it's obvious to absolutely everyone that Epstein wasn't trafficking people of consensual age. If he was, at most he could be charged for is prostitution and pimping. There's more than enough adults of consensual age willing to commit sexual acts for money. That's not what Epstein was involved in, and everyone that knew him knew what he was involved in.
Adult women are allowed to be retarded and suffer the consequences of being "free." That includes the right to be preyed on to make more money than most of us combined ever will. I literally do not care about them.
You're so willing to give any defense of Trump you provide even more defense for known predators, sexual degenerates, subversives, and corruptive and destructive influences and people upon society. You "do not care about them"? I do. I absolutely care about what my enemies are doing, what crimes they're involved in, what kinds of degeneracies they're pushing, what they're influencing or forcing other people to do, about the people they're manipulating and hurting. It's foolishness of extreme severity to give your enemies carte blanche to do whatever they want, purely because "you don't care", just because there aren't laws currently to stop them. There used to be such laws, but most of them have been overturned. Gee, I wonder why? Who could've possibly been involved in overturning our former laws dictating morality? What's happened to Western civilization after the morality of the West loosened to enable these evil people?
Not all that is legal is right, and not all that is illegal is wrong. If you entire defense of the subject is "well legality", you've already lost. Every institution of our civilization has been infiltrated, subverted, and corrupted by these people, including government, bureaucracies, the military, federal oversight and law enforcement organizations, courts, judges, lawyers, Congress, many state and local governments, the medical industry, pharmaceutical industry, schools, school textbooks, school curriculums, history, media, news, social media, food, entertainment, both sides of politics, and our political leaders. Do you expect to be taken seriously in a debate when your defense is "but legality", when these are the corrupt people writing the laws?
Furthermore, are you actually adhering to the globalist/leftist position that sex is harmless? Do you seriously think sex outside of marriage, that prostitution, whoring, "free" sex, and porn are harmless? We have the totality of the current world to show how harmful it is. Hypothetically, lets say Epstein was only trafficking and raping adults. Are you seriously suggesting that this is harmless? Are you so apathetic and numb to the evils of the world, that you don't care about the harms inflicted upon your people, to them, to us? Apathy isn't virtuous. It's inherently destructive. When too many become apathetic to the plight of their own people, nations and civilizations fall. We're in the midst of it. Your apathy is antithetical to your tacit want for a stable and healthy society.
You know, the same way that despite my point saying "rich powerful men are abusing their power to use legal but young women as objects" you have zero objection to that. You in fact care so little you just brush it aside to talk about something else.
See my above remarks. I absolutely care about it. It's just that not all crimes, or wrongs, or sins, are equal. Hierarchy exists, because differentiation exists. Your argument rests upon the false ideologies of relativism and egalitarianism, insisting that I believe these things as well, which is false. The sexual predation of minors is far worse than sexual predation of adults. You don't fight problems by tackling the least severe first. If your house is on fire, you don't start washing the dishes. You solve the most egregious problems first, and work your way down. But, just because egregious problems exist, doesn't negate the existence of less severe problems. Would you not also punish a murderer for committing rape? The murder doesn't negate the rape, purely because it was less severe? The predation of minors doesn't negate the predation of adults. One is more severe, but both are problems. Your apathy isn't an excuse for either.
I didn't. I said multiple times to other comments that he goes in the chipper too if its confirmed. You brought in weak ass evidence as if it was gospel and thought you could say "RAPING BABIES RAPING BABIES" and just win by leveraging emotion.
You didn't answer the question. Why do you forgive and give constant excuses for Trump, for openly acknowledging the repugnant crimes and proclivities of Epstein, but do not give equal leeway and constant excuse for people like Weinstein, who according to you, is less repulsive?
You don't want to answer the question, because you know it would shine a harsh and condemning light on your own feigned naivety and hypocrisy. You don't levy your views equally, which is what makes you the hypocrite here. Answer the question.
As for your own feigned outrage at my "RAPING BABIES", I only bring up that fact to paint the picture clearly, that there is zero doubt about what's being discussed here, what you are unwilling to acknowledge, because you know it would paint a harsh light on "your guy" (Trump). Epstein abducted, trafficked, raped, tortured, and murdered kids, and helped others do the same, for pleasure and/or for blackmail. You seem to be thoroughly missing this point, the totality of the crimes that were committed, of how many people participated and knew. But, given your words and arguments thus far, it's obvious you don't want to acknowledge by intention, not by ignorance.
But, if you wish, feel free to keep giving defense of people who knew about this. Thus far, Trump and his entire admin, has gone from one lie and botch to another with regard to the release of the Epstein files. They have not charged, arrested, or executed a single person who was implicated in the Epstein files, much less released a damned thing about the files. Oh, I'm sorry, they did "release it", to a bunch of zionist social media influencers, purely for a fucking photo op. Given the just announced news that they're going to censor the Epstein files for "national security", it's pretty much certain they're not going to punish anyone, just like all the other administrations that had power over this (including Trump in his first term), who knew it was happening, who let it happen, who defended it, who excused it, who covered it up, who killed people to keep it quiet. But, feel free to keep giving feigned defense of this, purely because Trump is "your guy". Doing so stains your soul, becoming a willing advocate and defender for the worst people of our times. I will have no part in it.
Did you not follow that internet investigation at all? I can share links for you, showing how repugnant it is, how young the kids were and are
I did, I defend Pizzagate out loud to people to this day in my persona life. That has nothing to do with this other than you continuing to use the tactic of "BABY RAPE BABY RAPE" to try and emotionally charge your argument. Which is why you are trying to show it to me now too, because just saying it isn't working.
You "do not care about them"?
I don't. If women want me to care about them, they can hand back their ill gotten gains from feminism and then I'll gladly burn Weinstein at the stake myself for their honor.
In fact, I got falsely MeToo'd during that initial craze, because an ex roommate was behind on her current rent and needed a sob story to buy her some time. Got the shit beat out of me by a lot of guys who really cared. Just an accusation and their neurons activated to anger, and when the lie came out she was still a victim and not a one came around to apologize for it.
So I in fact have vested interest in not only not giving a shit, but maliciously demanding higher standards for these things.
but do not give equal leeway and constant excuse for people like Weinstein
I've been of the belief he shouldn't have been imprisoned for a long time in fact, because of the aforementioned points I've made. I think his actions were at most disgusting but no less so than the vast majority of the same people who threw him down. But his is still a morally repugnant Jew who'd sell me for a cornchip, so I'm also not going to die trying to change minds on him.
The only excuse I've made for Trump is that the evidence against him is weak and unconvincing to anyone who doesn't fall for Leftie level emotional manipulation. If he is on the list I won't be surprised, just disappointed in him. But you seem to need a full struggle session before you consider it acceptable.
My entire point has been "my mind isn't solidly made up because the evidence isn't there." And that's important, because its been 10 fucking years of them throwing every damning possible accusation at him possible to try and take him down. Including ones with a ton more credible evidence behind it, that ended up being false or overblown too. I'm sure this time though its completely as it seems, the wolf is right there man.
But its all fine. I feel more secure in my position because if you had more convincing positions you'd have brought them. Instead you wrote a philosophy essay in response to your assumptions of my beliefs, and then repeated the same point over and over. And if/when it comes out Trump was on the list, you will still be retarded despite being right.
I did, I defend Pizzagate out loud to people to this day in my persona life. That has nothing to do with this other than you continuing to use the tactic of "BABY RAPE BABY RAPE" to try and emotionally charge your argument. Which is why you are trying to show it to me now too, because just saying it isn't working.
This is what Epstein was about. How could I deflect toward the core issue? Everyone that knew Epstein knew what he was doing. Everyone that knew people like Harvey Weinstein knew what he was doing. They let it happen. They openly bragged about it to the public. Why do you think raping babies is a deflection?
I don't. If women want me to care about them, they can hand back their ill gotten gains from feminism and then I'll gladly burn Weinstein at the stake myself for their honor.
Then, in your intentional apathy and malignance toward your own people, you would let evil people in power run roughshod over your people, and you, and everyone else you care about. You would have your own people atomized to the nth degree, to let us be corrupted and conquered, purely for your apathy. The fruits of your apathy are destruction. If you apathy was applied universally, all of civilization (even if it were good) would collapse in less than a year.
In fact, I got falsely MeToo'd during that initial craze, because an ex roommate was behind on her current rent and needed a sob story to buy her some time. Got the shit beat out of me by a lot of guys who really cared. Just an accusation and their neurons activated to anger, and when the lie came out she was still a victim and not a one came around to apologize for it....So I in fact have vested interest in not only not giving a shit, but maliciously demanding higher standards for these things.
Well, thank you for at least admitting your motivation. You're not apathetic. You actively hate women, and through that hate, justify your apathy toward your own people, and enable evil people to corrupt and destroy. You would let a wrong committed against you cloud your entire worldview, accepting positions and behaviors which are antithetical to the very conclusion you wish to reach, antithetical to the very prevention of the crime which colored your worldview. You hypocrite.
I've been of the belief he shouldn't have been imprisoned for a long time in fact, because of the aforementioned points I've made. I think his actions were at most disgusting but no less so than the vast majority of the same people who threw him down. But his is still a morally repugnant Jew who'd sell me for a cornchip, so I'm also not going to die trying to change minds on him.
Then, you indirectly answered my question. You do not view sexual immorality as an issue. You think "free" sex, whoring, prostitution, and porn are harmless, when they're obviously not. You give defense of repugnant and evil people, because you hate women, and through that, hate your own people. The very same people who do these repugnant things in Hollywood are the same people who do the repugnant things with Epstein Et al. They run in the same crowds, hold the same views, vote the same ways, they're all friends with each other, and know what proclivities they're involved in.
The only excuse I've made for Trump is that the evidence against him is weak and unconvincing to anyone who doesn't fall for Leftie level emotional manipulation. If he is on the list I won't be surprised, just disappointed in him. But you seem to need a full struggle session before you consider it acceptable.
I can partially agree, that the evidence against Trump isn't as strong as others, but the evidence still exists. Trump is a billionaire. He rubs shoulders with very powerful people. We've known for a long time that almost all very wealthy people are involved in these evils, or know about them and let them happen. Pretty much all of Hollywood, government, and the uber rich are involved. That's why I pointed back toward Harvey Weinstein, as a mirror to it, for all of the comedians, and actors and actresses, and late night talk shows hosts, and award ceremony acknowledgement speeches, that directly hinted or overtly mentioned what Weinstein was doing. Trump's statement of Epstein was no different. "Young" does not mean consensual age adults when talking about Epstein. Anyone saying otherwise is deluding themselves and giving unjustified defense for Trump.
My entire point has been "my mind isn't solidly made up because the evidence isn't there." And that's important, because its been 10 fucking years of them throwing every damning possible accusation at him possible to try and take him down. Including ones with a ton more credible evidence behind it, that ended up being false or overblown too. I'm sure this time though its completely as it seems, the wolf is right there man.
If Trump is innocent, then how come he, and his entire administration, are actively covering up the Epstein files, for "national security"? If Trump is innocent, then how come he, and his entire administration, are cracking down on "antisemitism", which would criminalize anyone criticizing the people responsible for these repugnant crimes, and the nation involved in running the operation?
Are you still unsure of Trump? What must Trump do to be guilty in your eyes?
You're also forgetting a very clear possibility, that Trump is merely playing the part of a false savior for the dissident right, as another layer of control, that all those attacks against him were pure political theater, just like pro wrestling.
But its all fine. I feel more secure in my position because if you had more convincing positions you'd have brought them. Instead you wrote a philosophy essay in response to your assumptions of my beliefs, and then repeated the same point over and over. And if/when it comes out Trump was on the list, you will still be retarded despite being right.
Feel free to remain proud in your position. In your pride and arrogance, you would reject the plain truth. Hopefully you don't, but I've seen that mistake committed far too often, even by good people, to be swayed by this circumstance. This issue isn't over. It's still ongoing. I will see what kind of man you are, whether you are capable of changing your mind, based on the continued cover up of this by Trump, or if you will, in your pride, continue to give excuse and defense of evil.
We're not talking about barely legal girls. We're talking about kids, children, and even babies.
Do you apply this same excuse to everyone who knew about the casting couches and predatory hiring producers in Hollywood, like Harvey Weinstein? Everyone in Hollywood knew what he was doing, and let it happen. Many even made jokes about it on TV and on award ceremony shows. It was an open secret in Hollywood. Why do you excuse Trump, and the "friends" he kept, the open secret of the vile evils they committed, while (I assume) you condemn Hollywood for the same thing?
I am. He said the word "young" which could mean either or in these cases because there is a long history of both with that kind of degenerate elite.
You seem to be too used to using Leftie tactics of "say scary words to instantly win" to parse the point I am making. So I'll reiterate and see if you can this time.
Trump noted Epstein's desire for young girls. He said it vaguely enough that it isn't hard confirmed he knew it was literally underaged women instead of just young trophy models. You know, the thing that many rich guys across the world do pretty openly, picking up dumb, arm candy that are barely of age but still are, legally.
This is given extra weight given that Trump was one of the few people to actually even work against Epstein later, even if it wasn't a whole lot. Its a small amount of smoke in both directions that means the wind could blow in either direction without surprise.
Adult women are allowed to be retarded and suffer the consequences of being "free." That includes the right to be preyed on to make more money than most of us combined ever will. I literally do not care about them.
You know, the same way that despite my point saying "rich powerful men are abusing their power to use legal but young women as objects" you have zero objection to that. You in fact care so little you just brush it aside to talk about something else.
Try not to point a hypocrite argument if your example literally makes you look like one. Again, not helping that "used to using Leftie tactics" position.
I didn't. I said multiple times to other comments that he goes in the chipper too if its confirmed. You brought in weak ass evidence as if it was gospel and thought you could say "RAPING BABIES RAPING BABIES" and just win by leveraging emotion.
I know, which is why I'm trying to correct your incredibly naïve assertion that Trump, or anyone discussing Epstein, would ever be alluding to anything other than kids. "Young", when talking about Epstein, isn't about girls or boys that are 18, or 19, or 20. It's referring to girls and boys who are 17, 16, 15, 14, 13, and younger. We know this. The entire Pizzagate investigation revealed the true horror of what was happening. It was that investigation which led to the arrest of Epstein. Did you not follow that internet investigation at all? I can share links for you, showing how repugnant it is, how young the kids were and are (although it'll probably have to be via private message or on ConPro, because this website, weirdly, has global censors to any links of it).
You're using your fake naivety as a shield, to protect and give excuse for Trump because of "plausible deniability", when it's obvious to absolutely everyone that Epstein wasn't trafficking people of consensual age. If he was, at most he could be charged for is prostitution and pimping. There's more than enough adults of consensual age willing to commit sexual acts for money. That's not what Epstein was involved in, and everyone that knew him knew what he was involved in.
You're so willing to give any defense of Trump you provide even more defense for known predators, sexual degenerates, subversives, and corruptive and destructive influences and people upon society. You "do not care about them"? I do. I absolutely care about what my enemies are doing, what crimes they're involved in, what kinds of degeneracies they're pushing, what they're influencing or forcing other people to do, about the people they're manipulating and hurting. It's foolishness of extreme severity to give your enemies carte blanche to do whatever they want, purely because "you don't care", just because there aren't laws currently to stop them. There used to be such laws, but most of them have been overturned. Gee, I wonder why? Who could've possibly been involved in overturning our former laws dictating morality? What's happened to Western civilization after the morality of the West loosened to enable these evil people?
Not all that is legal is right, and not all that is illegal is wrong. If you entire defense of the subject is "well legality", you've already lost. Every institution of our civilization has been infiltrated, subverted, and corrupted by these people, including government, bureaucracies, the military, federal oversight and law enforcement organizations, courts, judges, lawyers, Congress, many state and local governments, the medical industry, pharmaceutical industry, schools, school textbooks, school curriculums, history, media, news, social media, food, entertainment, both sides of politics, and our political leaders. Do you expect to be taken seriously in a debate when your defense is "but legality", when these are the corrupt people writing the laws?
Furthermore, are you actually adhering to the globalist/leftist position that sex is harmless? Do you seriously think sex outside of marriage, that prostitution, whoring, "free" sex, and porn are harmless? We have the totality of the current world to show how harmful it is. Hypothetically, lets say Epstein was only trafficking and raping adults. Are you seriously suggesting that this is harmless? Are you so apathetic and numb to the evils of the world, that you don't care about the harms inflicted upon your people, to them, to us? Apathy isn't virtuous. It's inherently destructive. When too many become apathetic to the plight of their own people, nations and civilizations fall. We're in the midst of it. Your apathy is antithetical to your tacit want for a stable and healthy society.
See my above remarks. I absolutely care about it. It's just that not all crimes, or wrongs, or sins, are equal. Hierarchy exists, because differentiation exists. Your argument rests upon the false ideologies of relativism and egalitarianism, insisting that I believe these things as well, which is false. The sexual predation of minors is far worse than sexual predation of adults. You don't fight problems by tackling the least severe first. If your house is on fire, you don't start washing the dishes. You solve the most egregious problems first, and work your way down. But, just because egregious problems exist, doesn't negate the existence of less severe problems. Would you not also punish a murderer for committing rape? The murder doesn't negate the rape, purely because it was less severe? The predation of minors doesn't negate the predation of adults. One is more severe, but both are problems. Your apathy isn't an excuse for either.
You didn't answer the question. Why do you forgive and give constant excuses for Trump, for openly acknowledging the repugnant crimes and proclivities of Epstein, but do not give equal leeway and constant excuse for people like Weinstein, who according to you, is less repulsive?
You don't want to answer the question, because you know it would shine a harsh and condemning light on your own feigned naivety and hypocrisy. You don't levy your views equally, which is what makes you the hypocrite here. Answer the question.
As for your own feigned outrage at my "RAPING BABIES", I only bring up that fact to paint the picture clearly, that there is zero doubt about what's being discussed here, what you are unwilling to acknowledge, because you know it would paint a harsh light on "your guy" (Trump). Epstein abducted, trafficked, raped, tortured, and murdered kids, and helped others do the same, for pleasure and/or for blackmail. You seem to be thoroughly missing this point, the totality of the crimes that were committed, of how many people participated and knew. But, given your words and arguments thus far, it's obvious you don't want to acknowledge by intention, not by ignorance.
But, if you wish, feel free to keep giving defense of people who knew about this. Thus far, Trump and his entire admin, has gone from one lie and botch to another with regard to the release of the Epstein files. They have not charged, arrested, or executed a single person who was implicated in the Epstein files, much less released a damned thing about the files. Oh, I'm sorry, they did "release it", to a bunch of zionist social media influencers, purely for a fucking photo op. Given the just announced news that they're going to censor the Epstein files for "national security", it's pretty much certain they're not going to punish anyone, just like all the other administrations that had power over this (including Trump in his first term), who knew it was happening, who let it happen, who defended it, who excused it, who covered it up, who killed people to keep it quiet. But, feel free to keep giving feigned defense of this, purely because Trump is "your guy". Doing so stains your soul, becoming a willing advocate and defender for the worst people of our times. I will have no part in it.
I did, I defend Pizzagate out loud to people to this day in my persona life. That has nothing to do with this other than you continuing to use the tactic of "BABY RAPE BABY RAPE" to try and emotionally charge your argument. Which is why you are trying to show it to me now too, because just saying it isn't working.
I don't. If women want me to care about them, they can hand back their ill gotten gains from feminism and then I'll gladly burn Weinstein at the stake myself for their honor.
In fact, I got falsely MeToo'd during that initial craze, because an ex roommate was behind on her current rent and needed a sob story to buy her some time. Got the shit beat out of me by a lot of guys who really cared. Just an accusation and their neurons activated to anger, and when the lie came out she was still a victim and not a one came around to apologize for it.
So I in fact have vested interest in not only not giving a shit, but maliciously demanding higher standards for these things.
I've been of the belief he shouldn't have been imprisoned for a long time in fact, because of the aforementioned points I've made. I think his actions were at most disgusting but no less so than the vast majority of the same people who threw him down. But his is still a morally repugnant Jew who'd sell me for a cornchip, so I'm also not going to die trying to change minds on him.
The only excuse I've made for Trump is that the evidence against him is weak and unconvincing to anyone who doesn't fall for Leftie level emotional manipulation. If he is on the list I won't be surprised, just disappointed in him. But you seem to need a full struggle session before you consider it acceptable.
My entire point has been "my mind isn't solidly made up because the evidence isn't there." And that's important, because its been 10 fucking years of them throwing every damning possible accusation at him possible to try and take him down. Including ones with a ton more credible evidence behind it, that ended up being false or overblown too. I'm sure this time though its completely as it seems, the wolf is right there man.
But its all fine. I feel more secure in my position because if you had more convincing positions you'd have brought them. Instead you wrote a philosophy essay in response to your assumptions of my beliefs, and then repeated the same point over and over. And if/when it comes out Trump was on the list, you will still be retarded despite being right.
This is what Epstein was about. How could I deflect toward the core issue? Everyone that knew Epstein knew what he was doing. Everyone that knew people like Harvey Weinstein knew what he was doing. They let it happen. They openly bragged about it to the public. Why do you think raping babies is a deflection?
Then, in your intentional apathy and malignance toward your own people, you would let evil people in power run roughshod over your people, and you, and everyone else you care about. You would have your own people atomized to the nth degree, to let us be corrupted and conquered, purely for your apathy. The fruits of your apathy are destruction. If you apathy was applied universally, all of civilization (even if it were good) would collapse in less than a year.
Well, thank you for at least admitting your motivation. You're not apathetic. You actively hate women, and through that hate, justify your apathy toward your own people, and enable evil people to corrupt and destroy. You would let a wrong committed against you cloud your entire worldview, accepting positions and behaviors which are antithetical to the very conclusion you wish to reach, antithetical to the very prevention of the crime which colored your worldview. You hypocrite.
Then, you indirectly answered my question. You do not view sexual immorality as an issue. You think "free" sex, whoring, prostitution, and porn are harmless, when they're obviously not. You give defense of repugnant and evil people, because you hate women, and through that, hate your own people. The very same people who do these repugnant things in Hollywood are the same people who do the repugnant things with Epstein Et al. They run in the same crowds, hold the same views, vote the same ways, they're all friends with each other, and know what proclivities they're involved in.
I can partially agree, that the evidence against Trump isn't as strong as others, but the evidence still exists. Trump is a billionaire. He rubs shoulders with very powerful people. We've known for a long time that almost all very wealthy people are involved in these evils, or know about them and let them happen. Pretty much all of Hollywood, government, and the uber rich are involved. That's why I pointed back toward Harvey Weinstein, as a mirror to it, for all of the comedians, and actors and actresses, and late night talk shows hosts, and award ceremony acknowledgement speeches, that directly hinted or overtly mentioned what Weinstein was doing. Trump's statement of Epstein was no different. "Young" does not mean consensual age adults when talking about Epstein. Anyone saying otherwise is deluding themselves and giving unjustified defense for Trump.
If Trump is innocent, then how come he, and his entire administration, are actively covering up the Epstein files, for "national security"? If Trump is innocent, then how come he, and his entire administration, are cracking down on "antisemitism", which would criminalize anyone criticizing the people responsible for these repugnant crimes, and the nation involved in running the operation?
Are you still unsure of Trump? What must Trump do to be guilty in your eyes?
You're also forgetting a very clear possibility, that Trump is merely playing the part of a false savior for the dissident right, as another layer of control, that all those attacks against him were pure political theater, just like pro wrestling.
Feel free to remain proud in your position. In your pride and arrogance, you would reject the plain truth. Hopefully you don't, but I've seen that mistake committed far too often, even by good people, to be swayed by this circumstance. This issue isn't over. It's still ongoing. I will see what kind of man you are, whether you are capable of changing your mind, based on the continued cover up of this by Trump, or if you will, in your pride, continue to give excuse and defense of evil.