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Uh huh. Sure.
We're talking about Epstein, someone that abducted, trafficked, raped, tortured, and murdered children, and helped other people do the same.
We're not talking about the average guy who prefers younger women, but actual women, not kids.
Yeah, and many of those men there usually had arm candy at that were barely legal. Its not hard to mistake a 14 year old for an 18 year old under 40 lbs of makeup and them not talking, as would be the case at these ridiculous parties.
We know what Epstein did, its pretty well documented how bad it is from what little we have already.
The point I am making is that Trump's statement has enough plausible deniability that he wasn't 100% confirmed knew Epstein was involved with actual minors as "likes em young" was pretty common at the time among the elite of anything from pedos to just "barely legal" ones. It was common enough that Oingo Boingo made a chart topping song mocking the problem in the 80s.
We're not talking about barely legal girls. We're talking about kids, children, and even babies.
Do you apply this same excuse to everyone who knew about the casting couches and predatory hiring producers in Hollywood, like Harvey Weinstein? Everyone in Hollywood knew what he was doing, and let it happen. Many even made jokes about it on TV and on award ceremony shows. It was an open secret in Hollywood. Why do you excuse Trump, and the "friends" he kept, the open secret of the vile evils they committed, while (I assume) you condemn Hollywood for the same thing?
I am. He said the word "young" which could mean either or in these cases because there is a long history of both with that kind of degenerate elite.
You seem to be too used to using Leftie tactics of "say scary words to instantly win" to parse the point I am making. So I'll reiterate and see if you can this time.
Trump noted Epstein's desire for young girls. He said it vaguely enough that it isn't hard confirmed he knew it was literally underaged women instead of just young trophy models. You know, the thing that many rich guys across the world do pretty openly, picking up dumb, arm candy that are barely of age but still are, legally.
This is given extra weight given that Trump was one of the few people to actually even work against Epstein later, even if it wasn't a whole lot. Its a small amount of smoke in both directions that means the wind could blow in either direction without surprise.
Adult women are allowed to be retarded and suffer the consequences of being "free." That includes the right to be preyed on to make more money than most of us combined ever will. I literally do not care about them.
You know, the same way that despite my point saying "rich powerful men are abusing their power to use legal but young women as objects" you have zero objection to that. You in fact care so little you just brush it aside to talk about something else.
Try not to point a hypocrite argument if your example literally makes you look like one. Again, not helping that "used to using Leftie tactics" position.
I didn't. I said multiple times to other comments that he goes in the chipper too if its confirmed. You brought in weak ass evidence as if it was gospel and thought you could say "RAPING BABIES RAPING BABIES" and just win by leveraging emotion.
I know, which is why I'm trying to correct your incredibly naïve assertion that Trump, or anyone discussing Epstein, would ever be alluding to anything other than kids. "Young", when talking about Epstein, isn't about girls or boys that are 18, or 19, or 20. It's referring to girls and boys who are 17, 16, 15, 14, 13, and younger. We know this. The entire Pizzagate investigation revealed the true horror of what was happening. It was that investigation which led to the arrest of Epstein. Did you not follow that internet investigation at all? I can share links for you, showing how repugnant it is, how young the kids were and are (although it'll probably have to be via private message or on ConPro, because this website, weirdly, has global censors to any links of it).
You're using your fake naivety as a shield, to protect and give excuse for Trump because of "plausible deniability", when it's obvious to absolutely everyone that Epstein wasn't trafficking people of consensual age. If he was, at most he could be charged for is prostitution and pimping. There's more than enough adults of consensual age willing to commit sexual acts for money. That's not what Epstein was involved in, and everyone that knew him knew what he was involved in.
You're so willing to give any defense of Trump you provide even more defense for known predators, sexual degenerates, subversives, and corruptive and destructive influences and people upon society. You "do not care about them"? I do. I absolutely care about what my enemies are doing, what crimes they're involved in, what kinds of degeneracies they're pushing, what they're influencing or forcing other people to do, about the people they're manipulating and hurting. It's foolishness of extreme severity to give your enemies carte blanche to do whatever they want, purely because "you don't care", just because there aren't laws currently to stop them. There used to be such laws, but most of them have been overturned. Gee, I wonder why? Who could've possibly been involved in overturning our former laws dictating morality? What's happened to Western civilization after the morality of the West loosened to enable these evil people?
Not all that is legal is right, and not all that is illegal is wrong. If you entire defense of the subject is "well legality", you've already lost. Every institution of our civilization has been infiltrated, subverted, and corrupted by these people, including government, bureaucracies, the military, federal oversight and law enforcement organizations, courts, judges, lawyers, Congress, many state and local governments, the medical industry, pharmaceutical industry, schools, school textbooks, school curriculums, history, media, news, social media, food, entertainment, both sides of politics, and our political leaders. Do you expect to be taken seriously in a debate when your defense is "but legality", when these are the corrupt people writing the laws?
Furthermore, are you actually adhering to the globalist/leftist position that sex is harmless? Do you seriously think sex outside of marriage, that prostitution, whoring, "free" sex, and porn are harmless? We have the totality of the current world to show how harmful it is. Hypothetically, lets say Epstein was only trafficking and raping adults. Are you seriously suggesting that this is harmless? Are you so apathetic and numb to the evils of the world, that you don't care about the harms inflicted upon your people, to them, to us? Apathy isn't virtuous. It's inherently destructive. When too many become apathetic to the plight of their own people, nations and civilizations fall. We're in the midst of it. Your apathy is antithetical to your tacit want for a stable and healthy society.
See my above remarks. I absolutely care about it. It's just that not all crimes, or wrongs, or sins, are equal. Hierarchy exists, because differentiation exists. Your argument rests upon the false ideologies of relativism and egalitarianism, insisting that I believe these things as well, which is false. The sexual predation of minors is far worse than sexual predation of adults. You don't fight problems by tackling the least severe first. If your house is on fire, you don't start washing the dishes. You solve the most egregious problems first, and work your way down. But, just because egregious problems exist, doesn't negate the existence of less severe problems. Would you not also punish a murderer for committing rape? The murder doesn't negate the rape, purely because it was less severe? The predation of minors doesn't negate the predation of adults. One is more severe, but both are problems. Your apathy isn't an excuse for either.
You didn't answer the question. Why do you forgive and give constant excuses for Trump, for openly acknowledging the repugnant crimes and proclivities of Epstein, but do not give equal leeway and constant excuse for people like Weinstein, who according to you, is less repulsive?
You don't want to answer the question, because you know it would shine a harsh and condemning light on your own feigned naivety and hypocrisy. You don't levy your views equally, which is what makes you the hypocrite here. Answer the question.
As for your own feigned outrage at my "RAPING BABIES", I only bring up that fact to paint the picture clearly, that there is zero doubt about what's being discussed here, what you are unwilling to acknowledge, because you know it would paint a harsh light on "your guy" (Trump). Epstein abducted, trafficked, raped, tortured, and murdered kids, and helped others do the same, for pleasure and/or for blackmail. You seem to be thoroughly missing this point, the totality of the crimes that were committed, of how many people participated and knew. But, given your words and arguments thus far, it's obvious you don't want to acknowledge by intention, not by ignorance.
But, if you wish, feel free to keep giving defense of people who knew about this. Thus far, Trump and his entire admin, has gone from one lie and botch to another with regard to the release of the Epstein files. They have not charged, arrested, or executed a single person who was implicated in the Epstein files, much less released a damned thing about the files. Oh, I'm sorry, they did "release it", to a bunch of zionist social media influencers, purely for a fucking photo op. Given the just announced news that they're going to censor the Epstein files for "national security", it's pretty much certain they're not going to punish anyone, just like all the other administrations that had power over this (including Trump in his first term), who knew it was happening, who let it happen, who defended it, who excused it, who covered it up, who killed people to keep it quiet. But, feel free to keep giving feigned defense of this, purely because Trump is "your guy". Doing so stains your soul, becoming a willing advocate and defender for the worst people of our times. I will have no part in it.