Asking this because that’s why the feds are doing this to Alex Jones and it’s been so long that I honestly only remembered that because of the posts from earlier.
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That it didn't happen. Crisis actor "parents," the worst being the guy that was laughing without a care in the world mere seconds before approaching a podium to give a teary-eyed speech.
Yup, and there was some stuff that people found suspicious about the emergency response, evacuation, and the like, as well as weird stuff like the parents all getting new houses or some weird stuff like that. I don't remember all the specifics, but there was some odd stuff. And, as per usual, it wasn't hard to find connections to the FBI.
I wouldn't swear by any of it, but people should certainly be allowed to theorize. "Conspiracy theories" are still protected speech. In fact, it should be the most protected speech, as it's usually against those in power, which is part of the whole point of the First Amendment, that the government doesn't get to shut down dissent.
Alternatively, that it was a false flag with real bodies and the government killed all those kids.
That was my thought. I never thought it didn't happen,just that it was orchestrated by TPTB to push for gun control. And it worked. Sandy Hook was to ammo prices what 9/11 was to gas prices. It immediately and eternally made prices skyrocket.
Then why didn't any gun control pass because of it?
Do you people ever think about this shit more than "not at all"?
So they waited until Republicans had control of congress, who would make sure no gun control happened, to stage this shooting, when they could've done it any time when Democrats had all of Congress under Obama?
As if establishment republicans have never cucked on guns before. Remember the AWB in the 90s, or the Hughes amendment in the 80s?
Except the claim is that the government was in on this.
Meaning, more than just some random retards at... whatever intelligence agency you think did it.
If this was a plan to take guns, do you not fucking think the CIA would've had all their ducks in a row before going through with it? You guys simultaneously believe that the government is literally capable of GODLIKE accomplishments when it comes to these conspiracy theories (no seriously, many of the things claim would've required nothing short of total omnipotence to execute as flawlessly as they supposedly do), and they couldn't have twisted the arms of like ten senators beforehand?
You think they literally would've blown their one and only shot at this just like that with such a ridiculously expensive, contrived plot, but they "forgot" that Republicans were in control? When Democrats were in control just a year prior?
How many >>>THOUSANDS<<< of people would've had to have been on this false flag, and not a single one has ever leaked? And that goes for every single conspiracy ever. Why is it that it just so happens that nobody 'leaks' anything when the government leaks like a sieve in every other regard? We couldn't even keep stealth secrets from fucking China.
That the plan failed doesn't mean there wasn't a plan.
Of course, that's not proof of a plan either, because the actual end result doesn't depend on a plan's existence.
IF it were to be planned, I'm sure a point of contention would be whether the supposed crimes would be heinous enough to get everyone unified to losing their freedoms, like 9/11 did.
Or even that it was a particularly good plan. People point to a hole in a plan as proof there wasn't a plan at all, as if every plan in human history has been airtight AND was carried out perfectly.
Its the same dismissal people use for Pizzagate.
And then we just aren't supposed to talk about the wierd shit on Instagram, or in Podesta's house, or in those emails ever again. Its been debunked by poking a single hole in the theory and thereby all the pieces are discarded.
And yet conspiracy theory revolves around the plan being both airtight and carried out perfectly, to such a level that it would require you believe the government had the power of an actual literal god to carry out.
When Building 7 was being prepped with thousands of pounds of high explosives, how is it that not one person working in this fully-staffed-and-operational office building ever once saw anything amiss? Nobody saw any contractors knocking out walls to access the structure. Nobody saw miles of wiring being run through the place. Nobody saw dozens of "Bob's Super-Honest Construction" vans constantly doing work and wheeling in crates of unknown contents during the enormous prep-time that would've been required for predemolition.
And you can't even say 'well maybe they did but they died' because it was Building 7 which was evacuated.
Not one scrap of det cord or misfired blasting cap was ever found. Through sheer coincidence the deafening sound of cascading explosives, which normally can be heard for miles, all magically were muted from the ears and recordings of everybody in the area.
And for 24 years not one of the hundreds, if not thousands of individuals who would've been required to undertake this extreme level of planning and plan execution ever grew a conscious, or ever thought it was weird and slipped a couple of documents into their pants to sneak out of the SCIF, or knows anyone who might have been involved.
As much as you may want to believe the 'official' explanation for Building 7 is a stretch, what I just described is literally what 9/11 Troofers believe, and everything I described requires even more of a stretch, bordering on believing that the government actually used some kind of supernatural power to make it happen so utterly flawlessly, because there's not any kind of reasonable explanation whatsoever for how any part of that plan could have happened with such an absurd level of detail without even one single person ever so much as getting drunk and bragging to the wrong person at a bar about it.
In fact, if you said that 9/11 was carried out by the government because they found Aladdin's Lamp and made a wish on the genie, I'd genuinely find that more credible.
This same government couldn't even fabricate fake WMDs to plant in Iraq and its grand plan to get the US involved with Vietnam was to just invent a fake story about a fake attack by fake boats and they hoped nobody would actually think to look into it more than 'not at all'.
What about the missile attack on the Pentagon? Since civilians are stupid and don't know these things, actually firing a live munition during times of peace is exceedingly rare. The process of building a live missile, preparing it on an aircraft, and getting it in the air, involves at least a hundred people having to know about it, because of all the steps involved. It's not Ace Combat where you just press 'x' to reload your whole plane.
You don't think in 24 years of being aware of the Pentagon Missile Theory, that some random airman at an air base didn't think it was really super fucking weird that they built and loaded a live missile on a plane, and it just happened to have taken off on the morning of 9/11, and landed without that missile?
Nobody noticed? The military leaks like a fucking sieve, and absolutely nobody is that loyal that they wouldn't talk.
This isn't even going into the fact that the damage done to the Pentagon utterly defies how any missile could have done damage. Explosives simply do not work that way. It literally requires yet another SUPERNATURAL belief in godlike intervention in order to happen.
The problem with all this HOAX HOAX CONSPIRACY retard-thoughts is that the dumbest motherfuckers alive just fall for them at face value and actively refuse to ever ask follow-on questions.
Let's start with this one:
If the shooting didn't happen, where are the 'dead' children?
It's been 12 years. Not a single person has tracked them down.
Wouldn't that be the smoking-gun evidence?
If it was fake there'd be a million new lines of investigation yet not a single one of the millions of retards who fall for every-conspiracy-ever have once put in the effort to actually try to procure evidence beyond "LOOK AT THE PIXELS".
Literally your proof is 'this guy had a weird look on his face for exactly 30 frames of video'.
And then they get mad when I point this shit out, almost like conspirafaggots know they're full of shit.
"Conspirafaggots" as opposed to blindly repeating the approved narrative? Ya, ill take conspirafaggot everyday
"Approved narrative" and yet you believe the same conspiracy theory script about every single conspiracy in total lockstep with everyone else, and you talk about it on websites that are hosted in the United States that suspiciously are never taken down by feds, because your narrative is soooo "disapproved".
Are you seriously this fucking gullible that you never noticed this shit, you faggot?
Lol, ok destiny.
Again, no response. You clowns are 100% predictable in how you function. I really don't care what the government does to any of you, most of you are worthless manual laborers with no value to the world anyway.
There's a reason nobody successful believes this gay shit. You do something pathetic like drive trucks.
Hahahaha. Think the hair dye fucked your brain chemistry
What the media claim: Alex Jones said that the victims were paid actors and that it didn't really happen, it was all a government psy op to introduce new gun control.
What Alex Jones actually did: alluded to the fact that we weren't being told the FULL truth about the event (which was true as they REALLY try to hide the fact money that was supposed to be allocated to upgrading school locks which would hamper THIS kind if event was siphoned off by government officials) and that they'd use it to argue gun control when it's a mental health issue. Was baited by a malicious phone in to say something along the lines that could be manipulated to be what the media later claimed he said.
Really it was just giving Wolfgang Halbig a national platform. That's what tripped their trigger. They hate him and want him to shut up and go away.
The charges were civil. An actual FBI agent was allowed to sue because Jones inflicted "distress" upon him for calling into question his ability to the job correctly and without bias.
Pure corruption of our justice system.
Dear Wolfgang contains multiple outright fabrications. At one point he asserts "Adam Lanza only weighed 122 pounds and we're supposed to believe he carried 50 pounds of ammo into the school"? or something along those lines.
'50 pounds of ammo' is a retarded fabrication. Nobody ever claimed that. That was a number invented out of thin air, as part of an argument nobody ever made. It was "inventing" evidence. 1,000 rounds of .223 weighs 25 pounds. Who the fuck has ever alleged that 2,000 rounds of ammo were carried into the school?
Nobody did. Except one person: Wolfgang Halbig.
"Wolfgang", if that even is his real name, outright made that up.
And if he was comfortable lying about that, then it's safe to assume he lied about literally everything else.
https://rumble.com/v11ljz0-dear-wolfgang-revisiting-sandy-hook-documentary.html
21:38 is the fabricated claim.
Wolfgang Halbig is an obese nobody with no background, education, or expertise in anything. Why would you think anything he said was anything more than made-up nonsense?
You should get a job with MSNBC. You're the exact kind of retard who would do well there.
Anyways. You should note a few things.
1 -- What you refer to is a caption. The caption is not a quote of Halbig's.
2 -- Adam carried three guns. One of which weighed 10 pounds. With multiple 30 round magazines. The weight could merely be a misinterpretation of total weight and not just ammunition weight.
3 -- Finding one caption inaccuracy and then using it to assume everything else said by a different person is a lie is what makes it obvious you are retarded.
4 -- Halbig neither directed or created the video you've linked.
Any other retardation you want to reply with or have I proved the case well enough? I ask.. because you seem exceptionally retarded.. and I'm worried you won't get it.
It's in a video with his name on it that features him speaking, without any citation, so as far as I care it's his claim.
Wow, wouldn't it be amazing if a conspiracy theorist ever "DID THEIR OWN RESEARCH", and wouldn't have to invent fucking claims like this?
https://communities.win/c/TheDonald/p/15HvBeWKKm/-number-of-people-who-immediatel/c/4OYXXCDcCk5
Oh wait, I already did. Wolfgang made that shit up.
It's not an 'inaccuracy', it's a fucking lie. Absolutely nobody could accidentally make that 'inaccuracy', especially since the FBI report itself accurately stated the total weight of all the ammo, magazines, and guns. 50 pounds is a completely made-up number.
And it doesn't even matter. "Dear Wolfgang" is what conspiracy retards believe and watch and pass links around of, which means they all fell for this lie anyway. Even if Wolfgang didn't 'make up' that "CAPTION", someone else in your faggoty little conspiracy world did, and not a single one of you noticed.
Then prove to me who DID make it. Can you? Or is this one of those mysterious conspiracy videos that just 'appeared' out of the ether like magic?
Again, doesn't matter. This is the #1 video on Sandy Hook, and it contains an outright fucking lie that not a single one of you "truth seekers" ever noticed until now. Why is that? Is it because you're all actually genuinely fucking stupid?
You failed to address that Wolfgang himself is an obese faggot who doesn't know shit and nobody has any reason to think he knows what he's talking about. The ugly greaseball was like a fucking school principal or some shit. That means he's stupid, and he's stupid enough to make up '50 pounds of ammo'.
I'm sorry. You said one retarded thing. I'm just assuming everything else you've said here is retarded.
Not gunna read some sperg bullshit. You've already wasted enough of my time. Go fuck yourself.
I caught you out in a blatant lie, which you tried to cover up with more lies, before going off to cry like the bitch you are. Which is the same programming all you Qonspiracy dipshits follow. I've dealt with enough of your disgusting kind to know your script. You aren't even human in my eyes, you're a worthless robot.
And after all that, you pathetic faggots actually think you're a threat to the government when this is how you handle reality? What a total joke.
There's a reason you're all manual laborers and stupid shit like that.
There was also a SNAFU by the news media. They were filming in front of one of the buildings (I can't remember which one) with the typical reporter reporting on the ground spiel. In the background of that news report, were a lot of people moving from left to right (if memory serves me correctly). I assume this was done to promote the idea of lots of people being affected. However, at one point, the idiot news crew did a wide shot of the exact same scene, but from the air via a news helicopter, which showed the commotion of background people were all circling the building, in line, repeatedly. The same tactic is used with extras in TV and movies to suggest a large crowd in the background, enabling the producers to use fewer people and save money.
Remember (unrelated) Anderson Cooper wearing fishing trousers and standing in a particularly deep pothole or something to make it look like floodwaters were waist deep, meanwhile the wide shot showed people fifty yards away standing up just fine in maybe ankle deep water.
Ding ding ding.
And as we have documented proof many times throughout the last century that the Government will absolutely send Agents to start and feed conspiracy theories to dilute the conversation around a topic and discredit it all as wacky, its almost certain that that happened here and its why there are so many "theories" that range from "something ain't right" to "literally faked the entire thing."
The conspiracy theory is that it didn't happen.
The reason why people might think it was staged is because of a few things.
The fact that a port a potty company was given unrestricted access to the scene of the crime to bring out of state portable toilets by the dozen before even the ambulances, police or fire rescue crews were allowed in. When there was a place that rented them in town that could have been used instead.
The fact that the million dollar schoolgrounds were in shambles with vines growing on the outside of the facility, and enough mold growing on the ceiling tiles that you could see in the obviously unused and super dust filled 'classrooms' to get the place condemned, let alone open for school. Then demolished mere weeks before the insurance could even take a look at the state of the place.
The fact that some surviving kids from the sandy hook school were singing America The Beautiful at Super Bowl XLVII (2013) only a few months after the incident, and some of them look way too much like some that were supposedly killed at the event. (Sandy Hook incident took place December 14th, 2012 and Super Bowl XLVII was Feb 3rd 2013)
And I'm sure I'm missing a few of the supporting claims for said conspiracy.
Also that some of the parents, at some points during the press conferences or whatever seemed odd in their emotional-social demeanor.
Which is to say, they didn't look nearly as broken or distraught as you'd expect most parents to be after losing their kids in such a meaningless act of violence.
Yeah, I get overcome with grief, but that looks very different from what they were doing.
Where have these kids been for the last 12 years then?
Also most of the "The fact that..." stuff conspiracy theorists claim is typically completely fabricated, much like the "BLUE ROOFS" shit in Lahaina.
I see my choice of words has upset you. For what it's worth, it was a bad choice of words.
Plus if it was blue, the aliens could just change it to purple or yellow like in Bart vs the Space Mutants. Everyone knows that.
Where have these kids been for the last 12 years then?
As always, you retards will never actually have an answer to a very obvious question that any serious person would've asked and look in to.
After the performance, the children returned to their school and community, where they continued their education and lives. Unfortunately, the exact whereabouts of the individual children who sang at the Super Bowl are not publicly disclosed due to privacy concerns and the sensitive nature of the tragedy. However, it is clear that they were part of a special tribute to honor the memories of their fellow students and teachers who lost their lives in the shooting.
I'm sorry the first thing to pop up when someone searches for "Where are the sandy hook kids that sang at the super bowl" was too difficult for you. I know us retards know how to use serach engines. We can teach you maybe iffen you wanna learn.
It's been 12 years, where are they? Not one of you has managed to track a single one down in 12 years?
My, what a great way to get put on several letter agency lists!
"Hello yes, private detective agency, I'm trying to locate small children who've gone through something traumatic. Yes it's absolutely urgent that I find these children, a guy on the internet really fucking wants to know."
You wasted 12 years worthlessly crying on the internet about something nobody will ever give a fuck about.
In all that time you couldn't find any of these kids? Did they rent them from some orphanage? Did they go back to live with the parents, and if so, you didn't find them there?
The kids are all 18-20 years old now. It's not too late. Why don't you try to find them now? Or is this always going to be your excuse?
Where are they? Didn't Wolfgang leak one of their SSNs?
Why didn't any of you sneak into the school in the weeks/months it sat empty, before demolition, to film the supposed absence of bullet holes / blood / etc.?
Did that also not occur to you?
"Oh no the government murdered thousands of Americans in various conspiracies, and I could help fight back against it, but i MiGhT gEt A tReSpAsSiNg MiSdEmEaNoR cHaRgE"
I’m no expert, but it fits in the category of theories that get you shut down on every major platform and you’re not even allowed to criticize it so whatever someone wants to say about it I will believe it.
And those are often the theories that are the most correct. If you're not even allowed to entertain an idea, you have to ask why you're being shut down.
So the fact that a million other conspiracies are freely available to talk about means what about those conspiracies?
I for one welcome our Ministry of Truth overlords.
Here's the problem with this 'logic': you don't get sued or attacked for talking about the moon landing hoax, or Vegas, or 9/11, or OKC, etc.
So either all the rest are fake and you're being attacked because you picked the one real one to sperg out about.
Or the rest were real and you're still mostly wrong about everything else, because literally nobody who is a Sandy Hook Truther doesn't believe a million other gay ass conspiracies.
If your standard of 'this conspiracy is a real conspiracy' is that you get attacked and sued and shut down for it, then Vegas isn't a conspiracy and frankly neither is 9/11.
The only thing I have to add to the comments is that there was an additional side theory going around involving Obama himself. Allegedly, there was some incriminating evidence in the CT state records about the man's true origins. Obama's handlers used Sandy Hook an excuse to push a CT state law that limited public access to the incriminating records. IIRC, the damning evidence was that he was illegally using CT resident's SSN. You have to remember that this happened during the peak "Obama is not American" years.
There's legitimate evidence that Obama did use a fake birth certificate, but I hadn't heard about the connection to Sandy Hook. Sheriff Joe Arpaio (a very vocal Obama critic at the time) did a long investigation into Obama, and his team found legit fraud and fakery on the publicly presented birth certificate. There's other info involving his father being different than what is claimed, someone connected to the fake certificate dying in a freak airplane accident, Obama himself claiming to be foreign born on his college transcripts, and such... But in any case, here's the press conference Arpaio did on their findings:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jk3KRxTfkLM
The entire Obama citizenship thing is a great example of the same problem that happens with Sandy Hook and a lot of these "conspiracy theories."
Legitimately wierd and suspicious behavior on the behalf of the government and people around them leads to people asking questions that should be easily answerable and instead there is obfuscation and run around. Which creates more and more people trying to piece shit to together until its a wild arena of nonsense.
Like, it should have been the easiest thing in the world for Obama to settle. The fact that he didn't and then a bunch of wierd shit happened around it makes it impossible to trust any evidence they produced.
Same with a lot of Sandy Hook stuff, where easy answers are dodged and then randoms guess at endlessly hoping they stick to the truth.
Here's a summary of the Sandy Hook/Obama SSN theory:
EDIT: Can't copy and paste because of formatting issues. Here are some links:
https://thepeoplesvoice.tv/coincidence-sandy-hook-allowed-obamas-ssn-records-to-be-censored/
https://archive.org/stream/pdfy-tbbyj-1ITH8kp_PV/Sandy%20Hook%20FRAUD%2C%20and%20Obama_djvu.txt
Never let a crisis go to waste
This is about as true as "Hillary Clinton Whitewater Documents were stored in the Murrah Federal Building in OKC" even though that would literally make zero sense, and also that anyone who would ever actually know that would've actually said something.
99% of this conspiracy fodder is literally invented by nobodies on the internet who have utterly no way of actually knowing anything they claim.
As you laid out above, most of these conspiracies are likely created by the government to confuse the hell out of people.
Just like 9/11, Vegas, JFK, or any number of shockingly violent acts committed on American soil, the official state narrative is the only narrative you should concern yourself with and there is absolutely no reason to think otherwise. Thinking otherwise will result in jail time or one billion dollars in fines. Thank you for your cooperation, comrade.
What is the point of believing any of this faggoty conspiracies when nothing you think will ever matter, and you have never done fuck-all to get "justice" for any of them?
How is believing anything about 9/11 any different from you believing Santa Claus?
You're really butthurt about this, huh
You sound vaxxed.
Not just vaxxed, he sounds like a fluoride guzzling, vaxx maxxing, triple masking, seed oil fan.
That it was a false flag.
Some people believe the government faked the whole thing to create outrage to convince people that the only way to prevent tragedies in the future would be to take away 2nd Amendment Rights.
They had a pattern.
Conduct an "active shooter" drill.
A few days later conduct an actual "false flag" attack on the same location.
The confusion and apprehension of law enforcement after the drill is used to create a fog of war over the whole scene and allow the deep state to manipulate it however they like.
They forgot that the government doesn't actually give a shit or is even remotely afraid of gun owners. Democrats only attack guns because they want to 'take something away' from conservatives out of spite.
One of the weirdest things was that for a building supposedly full of a hundred slaughtered and wounded kids, no ambulances were on the scene. Dozens of police vehicles and a helicopter or two but no actual first response medical was there.
It's weird that you guys think a trillion-dollar intelligence agency can flawlessly mastermind these billion-dollar conspiracies, but a bunch of high-school dropout manual-laboring hicks always just 'happen' to find some ridiculously asinine and obvious glaring "fuckup" like this.
Ambulances DO NOT just drive into an actively/potentially dangerous crime scene. They literally always wait for cops to clear the scene.
I'll remind you of the CHAZ/CHOP, when that guy got shot and bled to death. All the communists were mad because the ambulances wouldn't go into the area to rescue him. But they refused because the cops hadn't secured a potentially-dangerous scene, because CHAZ/CHOP wouldn't let the cops in. There's a video of the ambulance sitting a block away waiting while they all scream at them.
I'll be honest, I really fucking hate how I have to point out obvious things that anyone with a brain should know. I have an exceptionally low opinion of conspiracy theorists because you guys make unintelligent fucking claims like this.
https://s.abcnews.com/images/US/abc_06_school_shooting_sandy_hook_nt_121215_16x9_1600.jpg
Literally what the fuck do you call this picture?
https://rumble.com/v231eue-robbie-parker-sandy-hook-parent-laughing-after-supposed-death-of-child.html
Doesn't this look like an actor getting into his role after laughing jovially, rather than a distraught father? Right after the event. Sus.
I just showed my wife this video and we have a new convert. Say hello to grammasaurus (what her grandkids call her).
In addition to what some other people said, the school wasn't even open.
Their website had frequent updates for years but then went dark for multiple years until right before the fake shooting. Then, in the police camera footage (which was 90% redacted and was uploaded in a lossless file format which made it multiple terabytes which was storage that most people didn't have at the time) shows further evidence that it wasn't in operation at all.
There's evidence from the little we can see of the inside of the school, which shows that there's mold all over the place, exposed wiring, water damage, all things that would get the school fined or shut down for not being up to code. There's no toilet paper in any of the bathrooms either.
The classrooms were set up like a movie set. The shooting supposedly happened during class time, yet there's no textbooks, worksheets, pencils, etc on any of the desks. There's no backpacks anywhere, and all of the chairs are neatly pushed in to the desks despite the fact that there was supposedly a shooting happening, and the fact that we're supposedly dealing with elementary schoolers and there's no way they would all have pushed all their chairs in.
Then there's the aerial footage of allegedly concerned parents walking around the school, except you can follow their locations and actions throughout the footage and see that they move like NPCs (aka they're actors) that continually walk in the exact same paths and have the same brief fake conversations with the same people over and over, Like, there's a guy you can track that talks to someone for a few moments, then goes into the building, comes out the other side, walks back to his previous position and talks to the exact same person at the exact same spot, and then goes back into the building and does it all over again.
There's tons more shit, but it's blatantly obvious that the entire thing was a fabrication from beginning to end. It never happened. NOBODY died at Sandy Hook.
That nobody ever actually met any parents of the "victims". Basically it was staged.
Regardless of what Alex said or not, what was done to him in those two farcical show trials should be cause for disbarment of every lawyer involved.
Wonder how long before someone who "was personally affected by the shooting" chimes in on here.
I was personally affected by the crimes. My father's cousin's step-mother's former roommate's grandchild was a victim of this heinous act, and I missed out on a burrito because I was so distraught.
Are you the guy who has an uncle that works at Nintendo?
Im personally affected by the retard sperging out about it all over this topic, does that count?
Let's flip this around.
Why do you believe the government actually gives a shit about 'taking guns' from conservatives, when conservatives have shown they will never, ever ever do fuck-all about anything? They literally always comply with anything they are told. In fact, even suggesting "hey you should make your own illegal suppressor" gets you banned from every right-wing gun forum, because they're such obedient little fucktards.
Why have people believed for 23 years that 9/11 was staged by the government and yet literally all anyone who believes this pointless shit has just cried on the internet like a little fag? Can anyone actually describe a realistic timeline where they think they're ever going to be vindicated? If you haven't shot a fucking senator over even 10% of the evil shit conspiracy theorists allege, then you are not a serious person, and it's very probable that most conspiracy theorists do not actually believe this shit themselves, it's just an online LARP.
If the government staged it to 'turk mah gurnz' why did they wait until AFTER Democrats lost control of congress? Absolutely no gun control came out of this. Like... did any one of you ever fucking ask this and actually come up with an answer? What, was it not in their FY11 budget?
If the kids didn't die, why has not a single one of you actually tried to find these kids? They're like, literally 20 years old or so at this point. Where are the kids? Where are they???
If this was such a heinous conspiracy why didn't even one single person ever try to sneak/break into the school while it was still standing (which it was for quite a while) to actually see if there was evidence of bulletholes/blood? In fact, why does this level of investigation never seem to happen for any conspiracy ever?
Why do so many conspiracy theorists actively lie about everything? Someone in here claimed "omg there were no ambulances". I literally found an aerial photo of a dozen of them lined up at the school from the day of the shooting.
Why is so much conspiracy material seemingly tailor-made to make specifically only right-wingers go completely out of their mind with paranoia?
Why is so much conspiracy material anonymously produced or sourced by 'nobody'?
Why do all the Qonspiracy Qultists literally believe that they themselves and their stupid LARP nonsense is above being questioned, and they only lash out in psycho anger when you ask them basic fucking questions like anything I wrote here?
Why was "Dear Wolfgang", considered basically the Sandy Hook Hoax Bible, contain multiple outright fabrications and lies, like "Adam Lanza supposedly carried 50 pounds of ammo into the school"?
What is the point of believing any conspiracy when you've never done shit about any of them, you never will, and there's genuinely 0.00% chance of any "justice" or "truth" for any of them? What is the difference between believing Vegas was shot up by the CIA just for fun, and believing the moon is made of cheese? Nobody cares and what you think will never matter, and you'll never prove otherwise, so why bother?
Here's one explanation that actually addresses all of this:
Conspiracy theories are literally invented by the government to psychologically manipulate a potentially 'dangerous' right-wing audience into psyching themselves completely out of their minds with paranoia in order to keep them controlled.
Do you all think that MKULTRA "only works on liberals"? No you fucking retards, it works on you.
Here's how the government sees the right wing.
Groups like that historically have posed active danger to governments. They're the ones who throw revolutions. So if you're the US Government, and you have your hands tied by things like the First and Second Amendment, how do you control these guys?
You psych them the fuck out.
Every single right-winger, right now, thinks there's "feds" everywhere. They trust nobody. They probably think their own children are feds. They are so paranoid that they're incapable of forming a coherent movement.
Look at how ConInc Twitter Grifters like DC_Drain, Jack Posobic, Gunther Eagleman, and Tony Seruga just fabricate complete nonsense every single day and get a hundred thousand 'likes' for their utterly preposterously stupid claims that never turn out to be real.
Conservatives will believe anything as long as it tells them what they want to hear.
The government knows this. It's why you can find so much conspiracy material even just by searching Google.
It's why every single conspiracy theory just hammers home the idea that:
In reality, none of this is true. The government is weak, ineffective, stupid, and discordant. There's a very long list of people who the government "should" have murdered, but hasn't. Like Alex Jones, for starters.
But all that matters is if right-wingers believe that it's true. Because as long as they believe it's utterly hopeless to resist, they'll never do fucking anything.
And they never have.
And they never will.
They piss away thousands of hours of their lives on this stupid made-up fairy tale shit, squinting at pixels, friendless and alone in their paranoid little delusions, getting more obese by the second in their disgusting, sad little shitty trailers.
CONSUME CONSPIRACY, THEN GET READY FOR NEXT CONSPIRACY.
I added a whole bunch of stuff likely while you were writing that actually talks about what you wrote.
In particular:
This is the most interesting one.
MKULTRA was real and yet every single conspiracy theorist fancies themselves immune to it. They genuinely believe everything is a psyop, but even though they can never actually tell you "where" any given conspiracy theory came from, or why there is only ever "one" theory (and not competing ones they argue about), they just trust blindly that all of it is being created by their, as you described it, crack team of Batman/Rorschach "investigators". They don't ever question that maybe they could be getting fooled.
So if anything, it is evidence to suggest that conspiracy theory content is probably being created by the government.
And I think the reason so much of it is completely irrational is kind of like the same reason why phishers and scammers will intentionally make their scams a 'little' obvious: because they want to bait the dumbest, most gullible people.
It explains quite a bit, like for example, why they think the CIA used magical technology to 'hack' Michael Hastings's car, yet the CIA is magically powerless to stop anyone from talking about it on all these websites that literally operate out of the United States. Almost as if they have no interest in actually stopping anyone from talking about conspiracies.
100%
And it's why I fucking hate conspiracy theory.
It has turned the right wing into a bunch of impotent obese whining terminally-online fags who think they're making a difference, but are not. The amount of man-hours wasted on 9/11 conspiracy is insane, and frankly it doesn't even matter if 9/11 was or wasn't a conspiracy - all that does matter is in 2024, exactly >zero< right wingers have "done something" about 9/11 conspiracy. So if they believe it but don't do anything it, does it matter if they believe it? What is the difference in ACTIONS between someone who does or doesn't believe it was a conspiracy?
None. The people who think it was a conspiracy have exactly as much an impact on the world as the people who do not.
So with that in mind, does it actually matter if it was a conspiracy or not? It's been a quarter of a century.
Excellent point. I'll remember that.
I'm not 100% convinced that most of them don't know on some level that it's all a made-up LARP. Because I can't really think of any reason besides that why someone who really genuinely thought that the CIA machine-gunned 500 people in Vegas for nothing more than a laugh has decided that the proper response to such an atrocity was to just whine online and go about their lives.
The Boston Massacre involved shooting all of like 6 people or so.
My eyes nearly roll out of my head every time I hear some right-winger shouting about their guns and 'defense against tyranny'. Like you fuckin' retard you already believe that you're living under the most evil, murderous government on the fucking planet, and you don't do shit, nobody believes you're going to take up arms, especially not when you think everybody around you is a fed.
Alex Jones screamed that it didn't happen, through a bullhorn (As was his thing at the time) in the town that it did.
It was totally barbaric behaviour by an attention seeking snake oil salesman.
Some people got upset by this which the media, other barbaric snake soil salespeople, took to get people behind their cause of banning guns.
There were lots of tidal shifts on what happened due to circumstances showing more than an ex-student of the school taking his mother's gun and going to her workplace to shoot and kill people there but that was just it.
Years later and people are still chasing Alex Jones for unquantifiable emotional distress which a judge says is valid (Despite the constitution saying otherwise) and a quantifiable value of all of his possessions is found to be the right amount and taken from him.
Was it the Greys who were working with Bush in the White House using Obama to turn the frogs gay so that Bohemian Grove could enact the anti-Christ of the Torah to have transdimensional beings come out of the shadows and siphon our souls? Maybe it was the undead Nazis living in the hollow Earth beneath Antarctica trying to use HAARP to get their moon dwelling associates to figure out who to get jet fuel to melt steel beams? Or perhaps it was the Atlanteans awakening the dinosaurs on Mars to create an AI program that could rewrite human personalities via 3G mobile technology?
Either way, some nutjob will find their jam on it and here we are well over a decade later trying to find compassion for a man who was fucked over by the government for being a prick on yet another occasion were the government should have just let him be a prick.
In another decade we'll no doubt be supporting a trannies rights to tell children that anal se is better than the regular procreating kind because they'll have figured out the talk enough bullshit codex to get sympathy.
Yea. What a BARBARIAN. He grabbed a microphone and talked!
You have fallen into the mindless media NPC trap. Congratulations. You say much but think little.
Nah kid, I was there watching it happen.
But you do you and buy whatever pills make you feel like a man.
You talk like a 15 year old.
It must sound so awesome in your head.
Out here in the real world you sound retarded and incapable of defending, what ostensibly, are your own ideas.
lol.
Wild considering conspiracy theorists are the ones who actively invent retarded child-like shit like that an antenna array in Alaska can magically create a hurricane 6,000 miles away through 'magic', or that a space laser blew up a town in Hawaii because Oprah couldn't see the ocean.
Sure thing pal,
Those aliens are coming to get us all. Any day now...
Oh.. are you one of those people who gets off on being disliked?
Gross.
So.. are you just jealous of what Jones has been able to do and you can't?
Well surely you have photos I would assume. You could put to bed the claim of no ambulance or firetruck on scene and erode the narrative a bit.
https://s.abcnews.com/images/US/abc_06_school_shooting_sandy_hook_nt_121215_16x9_1600.jpg
You mean this one?
Conspiracy retards literally just believe anything they are told. They will "question anything" except the very fucking gay shit they were told to think. Case in point, they will all say "no ambulances", but none of them actually checked it. They'll question every single tiny pixel of a photo for a 'defect' to 'prove it was a conspiracy', but they just believe wildly stupid shit that's completely full of holes and just make excuses/ignore all the flaws in their own narrative.
Because I don't care. I never took a position regarding this incident because I don't have time to investigate it. I read the comments just to check the talking points. I'm glad you posted a picture because it helps me see who is quick to lie. No need to insult me, it was a serious musing.
Upvote for a photo response. I know for a fact that Columbine was real. I lived a few blocks away when it happened. When I heard it on the radio, I hauled ass home to check on my kids. We had a house full of kids and my wife made them call their parents and their parents told them to wait at our house until they picked them up. Trust me, a lot of kids didn't wait around for the police to talk to them
The reason anyone came up with this 'no ambulances' shit is because the ambulances never go into a dangerous situation until the scene is safe.
Cops go in first and secure the area. Then ambulances.
There was even an entire thing in CHAZ/CHOP where an ambulance wouldn't go in because a guy got shot, Antifa wouldn't let the cops in, so the ambulance sat outside and made them drag the guy to the ambulance.
Alex Jones is controlled opposition anyway. They use guys like him to leak out snippets of real information coupled with lunacy. It allows them to link the lunacy to the real information and discredit the story. Michael Savage is another one of those guys. Wouldn't be surprised if John B. Wells is part of the crowd. Using discernment, one can typically find the truthful portions of the story
Why don't you cry more to your facebook coven about it you woman?
... he wrote, as if any of you Qonspiracy fucktards have ever done anything about any conspiracy ever, except cry online like a little faggot.
Alex Jones has made tons of money selling you morons stupid shit that you will take to your grave because nothing you think matters. They're fanciful delusions that only exist in your head that you can not and will not ever do anything about. And you still haven't grasped what an utterly pointless waste of your fucking time it all is because of that.
Sure thing gramps, did you did that insult up from the corpses of the Sandyhook kiddies?