men my age (45) are generally not patient or wanting a life partner
Well I'm basically that age. I'd never say life partner because that sounds gay, but I'm only interested in a relationship for the sake of family, or not at all. The vast majority of those of us that are left at that age are willing to be on our own versus picking up someone else's discarded problem. So yeah, in a lot of cases we seek a unicorn, but it's better than getting our soul sucked away and then taken for everything else we have left.
I'm over a decade younger than you are and I'm in a similar boat, only I wouldn't even entertain a relationshit for a family. The divorce laws give women way too much power over men for that to be a viable option for me.
I'd say for me there's a difference between entertaining and actively seeking such a relationship, and I'm certainly not doing the latter at this point. I did hit a point where in a way I look back and wonder if I should have had a family, and I think many do at a certain age. The shriveled up cat ladies even more so than men. I don't have any real time where I set aside a real solid option in the past that would cause regret, so it's not something that bothers me. I do think most men at some point in their life seek a connection to the future, and for me that's my nephews and a close cousin all of which are probably the most important family members to me.
Same here. I would love to have kids, and would be a great dad. However, I will never participate in a system that will gladly take my kids, my house, and half of my retirement savings just to give them to a cheating whore who decided she was bored in the relationship and decided she wants to use the power of the state to destroy me.
Make sure you know the Common Law marriage laws for your area before shacking up with someone. Even if you don’t say “I do,” Uncle Sam might say it for you.
Not when there are kids involved. The lack of parental rights by default is the problem, and there is no way to avoid it, outside of surrogacy or adoption.
There's a ton legal liabilities that come with cohabitation, even without kids. They just vary by state a lot more than the ones that come with marriage and kids. The biggest problem is that she can claim common law marriage to drag you into divorce court. If your plan relies on a divorce court judge ruling against a woman you need a different plan.
Yeah there's plenty of men her age looking for a life partner, just not one with that much baggage. The entitlement these post wall women have, especially ones with high maintenance children, is off the charts
In a similar position and have many friends that are the same. The point of marriage was supposed to be to start a family and have a life partner in doing so. If someone’s not willing to have kids, or more often now as well, not willing to be a life partner in any meaningfully helpful way, I don’t see the point. Women offer children, companionship, and helping out in domestic and financial ways. If they don’t want children, don’t want to help out domestically or financially or at all really, and are basically only having sex and hanging out with you, there is nothing to be gained in marriage for a man but increasing his financial risks immensely.
If all a girl wants to do with you indefinitely is have sex and hang out and not even help with anything, it’d make more sense to eventually find another girl or just have sex with more girls if you yourself didn’t want kids or something. I can see marriage with a life partner that helps and contributes and you love and all that even sans kids because you both don’t want them or can’t have them, but very few girls past 30 like that even exist anymore. Or under 30.
I have one super duper hot female model friend past 40 that’s dating some rich top 1-5% type of guy I know that works his ass off and hustles with stressful, high risk 80 hour weeks. She doesn’t want kids, doesn’t really contribute anything but her vagina, he pays for everything as she lives rent free in a mansion, and is basically just his personal porn star in her words. She really wants marriage but he doesn’t and even got snipped recently so she can’t oops baby him. She at least eventually resigned herself to that because she’s not going to do any better, but I know him and he’d easily have just wifed her if she wanted a family or to have kids or something. She’s continually drugged out on pharma meds for anxiety and depression issues that I think are just her having failed to have kids, despite living in a little mansion and having not one worry or care in the world otherwise. We’re friends so I’ve tried telling her to just have kids and all that since before she was past 40, but she couldn’t stand anything getting in the way of her partying and drinking it seems. A lot of fun to know and be around, 11/10 to look at, one of the top bods and even personalities on the planet probably, and even then she can’t get anyone decent to wife her without her having kids.
Yeah, my advice for the young is really find someone young (20s), marry and start family, and grow up together. This freaks out a lot of people because they will go on, “ahhh you’re giving up your career, you need to go to college and find yourself!” At the very latest, it’s the next step right after 4 years in college. I interact with a lot of successful business people as part of my work, and attendance and experience at a fancy college is not that common. People skills and experience trump college 100x. I never hear anyone talk about college, but they talk about their kids constantly.
Obviously I didn’t go this route, and I don’t regret it. I really have never been one to want kids, I’m terrible with young kids, and I didn’t know how much of a gift I have with teenagers until I was older. I’ve adapted and I’m happy. It seems to hit women a lot differently as they are older they turn to drugs and cats.
More of the 18-21 year old guys I know now are doing that while in undergrad. Young guys now are way more conservative. I know one kid that doesn’t even like hot lesbians in movies. Told one of them that college was the time in his life he’d be around the most available women before they’re all broken and used up and SSRI’d. He’s doing his best.
Depends on what school you go to as well I suppose. I went to a top tier school so we talk about that all the time and it does connect you to various folks that meet a certain standard. Not sure how much that holds up for the folks currently in them. If it’s not one of those colleges, I wouldn’t recommend people go for most things. Still working on kids myself, mostly wishing I’d had it done earlier but again, alternative is unlimited sex so it’s not like I’m suffering on that front.
Yeah, I did build up more of my connections later, so I can see at least some value in networking at a big school. It's odd for me too having been pretty quiet as a kid to now working in a role where a lot of what I do requires some degree of social interaction. I tell the young people I know, start with learning something that someone will actually pay you to do, and go from there. If that requires college, fine, if it doesn't then fine, and almost never is there any reason for college debt. I owe a ton of where I am to starting my life not sitting on 100k of alcoholic boozefest experience with a piece of paper attached.
I would agree that a lot of young guys are more conservative. I can't really put my finger on any guy I know in the 15-25 group that is just bat shit crazy. I'm sure they exist and I deal solely with "flyover country", but most of what I know are pretty decent conservative guys.
I’m in deep blue territory and even I don’t know young progressive guys in the bluest of areas, though I’m sure they are around. Graduated without debt myself, so that’s another consideration too for school. 300k for $10 more an hour is a net loss.
I actually suspect that she's understating the magnitude of the problem. My guess is the kids will never use a toilet without assistance let alone become functional adults. Women will overstate the extent of their kids' special needs when they're trying to win the "who has it harder" status contest, but they lie in the opposite direction when they're trying to lock down a paypig.
Yeah that too, I don't trust almost anyone who goes on about how they have multiple "special needs" kids. I mean the DNA lottery hits hard there if it's true, and I'm more inclined to think they are just stretching minor behavior things than actually raising their kids.
She's 45 and she says kids instead of teenagers. She'd say so if they were teenagers because that would be a light at the end of the tunnel. A geriatric pregnancy makes this scenario a lot more believable.
I would if I had the time and resources look after an orphan but WOULDN'T in most circumstances be a stepdad.
Why? If I became a stepdad, I'm dealing with a single mother that might've drove that man out so already a toxic influence on that kid and be planning to drive me out too after draining me. Orphan literally has no one so I'd rather try and help raise them with the sane part of my family than let the state mold them into their toy.
Only exception to being a stepdad is if she's a widow and 100% NOT responsible for in any way his death. Those ones could just be good wife/mother material but fate went fuck you so that's my exception.
I think that once you are in your 40's, you are going to realize that you're not going to have kids with your girlfriend or wife who is also in their 40's, making that really the only way you would even have something like kids.
Sure, your partner could have drove someone away, but she also could have made bad choices, and now she's with the only good choice she made yet.
Yeah, you can say "I'll live alone" but at that point, you're really looking at being well and truly alone when you spend 40-80 with absolutely no one by your side. Men and women really aren't meant to live like that.
There's also going to be a metric shit ton of it from people who grow old alone and realize that they have literally nothing to live for because they have no family.
It infuriates me no end that entire generations were raised with the goal of being financially successful rather than with the goal of creating a family. What good is money when all you can spend it on is mindless hedonism?
Also consider that they were taught that financial success is contradictory to having a family.
The reality is that a family is an investment, and starting or building onto a family is the most profitable way to make money. It's actually the primary reason poor people have kids. Kids can actually make more money than they are worth. The issue is that all of the cultural, political, and economic systems are attempting to make the upfront investment costs of children exceptionally high from a material frame.
How would a family farm even run if kids couldn't work until they were 18?
Sometimes you can love a kid that isn’t yours. My friend’s son years ago. I would have took him in if it was absolutely necessary (not likely). I also love my niece who’s in-law acquired and would take her in with my wife if necessary.
It's not for me, but I think it's respectable if you're not responsible for the kid's mother as well. One of the major the problems with getting involved with a single mother is that she's the head of the family, not you. That leaves you with all of the responsibility and none of the authority. Adopting an orphan pairs the responsibility with authority and avoids the issue. I'd never call a man in this situation a cuck if the kid's mother was out of the picture.
Yeah, one of my friend’s sons was like that me. I’d take him to fun things occasionally, went to some of his sports, etc. He’s 25 now with his own kid and still one of my better friends. I’d definitely had taken him in, and he stayed with me a couple months a few years ago when he was still trying to figure his life out. Then there’s my cousin’s kid I’ve mentioned in posts, yeah there’s no one in the world that if they were gone tomorrow I’d be more upset over. He’d be welcome here right now if something happened to my parents I’d I wouldn’t even have to think about it.
It's even worse. You're also most likely going to have to deal with the kid's father being in your life. And his parents if they want to be involved in their grandchild's life.
I have friend going through this nightmare salad spinner of fuck.
I think she does, and that's why she's looking for a walking ATM. She needs Cuckold to fund vacations for her and her Chad spawn, preferably without tagging along and inconveniencing her with his existence.
For fun and for morbid curiosity, I set up an account on an online dating service to see how I'd do. My profile was a 40-something who ran a small business (read betabux). I got at least one match every few days; almost all from women with kids. And of those matches, a quarter of them started the conversation (usually with the generic "how are you?").
Because my intention was just to see how often I would match with women and not to actually meet them, I'd see how long they could handle dry "nice weather we're having, how about that sports team?" conversation before they'd unmatch me. Usually all it took was a few days tops.
In the end, not a single one actually chased me down or even tried flirting with me first. Makes sense to me as they would be used to the guy being the one to do all the work.
You wanna know what's really fucked up? This bitch somehow managed to find a boyfriend. I don't know if it's a real LTR or if it's more of a fuckbuddy situation, but either way he's been divorce raped once and knows better than sticking his dick in that feminist electrical outlet again. This bitch is so delusional and entitled that she has cat lady board posters dropping red pills. This one is my favorite:
Your post has the “A REAL man would step up and help me take care of these kids!” vibe to it and we are old enough to not take that bait.
Remember, there's nothing manly or alpha about allowing yourself to be shamed into doing something that's not in your best interest. Even younger guys are waking up to this because of men's content online and how transparently awful women are these days.
A post wall woman with two special needs sons demanding an older man to pay all her bills for her. And she shamelessly admits she hasn't even broken up with this horrible "narcissist" yet which implies she's leeching his resources until a better offer comes around.
Reading between the lines, her previous husband found her as a backstabbing whore and won the court case to disconnect from her and the illegitimate children. Now she wants another victim.
These gen-X women are going to have to up their game on the competition front if they want to get taken seriously by men with disposable income and free time.
Their only hope is to be a fun companion who doesn't try to get their claws in his assets and chain him to Chad's kids. Certain men with disposable income and free time might be down for a deal like that, but even then they would probably have younger options. Demanding full price for a beat up car that Chad took a joyride in and discarded? No bueno.
Lady, I'm going to be blunt. You're lucky if you can con a guy into raising someone else's kids under normal conditions. Someone else's kids who are also special needs? You're looking for a unicorn.
The quality of the child's mental cognitive faculties are quite indicative that she's a lowlife drug abuser. I hope the kids get the help they need, but I harbor zero sympathy for the woman that brought them into this world with a losing hand. May she rest in piss.
Makes you wonder if that are just troll accounts, hard to believe someone with 45 is asking these questions and has so much baggage. She should be happy she has a male friend at all.
Well I'm basically that age. I'd never say life partner because that sounds gay, but I'm only interested in a relationship for the sake of family, or not at all. The vast majority of those of us that are left at that age are willing to be on our own versus picking up someone else's discarded problem. So yeah, in a lot of cases we seek a unicorn, but it's better than getting our soul sucked away and then taken for everything else we have left.
I'm over a decade younger than you are and I'm in a similar boat, only I wouldn't even entertain a relationshit for a family. The divorce laws give women way too much power over men for that to be a viable option for me.
I'd say for me there's a difference between entertaining and actively seeking such a relationship, and I'm certainly not doing the latter at this point. I did hit a point where in a way I look back and wonder if I should have had a family, and I think many do at a certain age. The shriveled up cat ladies even more so than men. I don't have any real time where I set aside a real solid option in the past that would cause regret, so it's not something that bothers me. I do think most men at some point in their life seek a connection to the future, and for me that's my nephews and a close cousin all of which are probably the most important family members to me.
Same here. I would love to have kids, and would be a great dad. However, I will never participate in a system that will gladly take my kids, my house, and half of my retirement savings just to give them to a cheating whore who decided she was bored in the relationship and decided she wants to use the power of the state to destroy me.
Just don't get married -- you can live together endlessly and not have any legal obligations when it's time to bounce
Make sure you know the Common Law marriage laws for your area before shacking up with someone. Even if you don’t say “I do,” Uncle Sam might say it for you.
Not when there are kids involved. The lack of parental rights by default is the problem, and there is no way to avoid it, outside of surrogacy or adoption.
There's a ton legal liabilities that come with cohabitation, even without kids. They just vary by state a lot more than the ones that come with marriage and kids. The biggest problem is that she can claim common law marriage to drag you into divorce court. If your plan relies on a divorce court judge ruling against a woman you need a different plan.
Translation: men my age don't want ME as a life partner
Yeah there's plenty of men her age looking for a life partner, just not one with that much baggage. The entitlement these post wall women have, especially ones with high maintenance children, is off the charts
better to have high standards and be alone than to settle for an imperfect relationship.
In a similar position and have many friends that are the same. The point of marriage was supposed to be to start a family and have a life partner in doing so. If someone’s not willing to have kids, or more often now as well, not willing to be a life partner in any meaningfully helpful way, I don’t see the point. Women offer children, companionship, and helping out in domestic and financial ways. If they don’t want children, don’t want to help out domestically or financially or at all really, and are basically only having sex and hanging out with you, there is nothing to be gained in marriage for a man but increasing his financial risks immensely.
If all a girl wants to do with you indefinitely is have sex and hang out and not even help with anything, it’d make more sense to eventually find another girl or just have sex with more girls if you yourself didn’t want kids or something. I can see marriage with a life partner that helps and contributes and you love and all that even sans kids because you both don’t want them or can’t have them, but very few girls past 30 like that even exist anymore. Or under 30.
I have one super duper hot female model friend past 40 that’s dating some rich top 1-5% type of guy I know that works his ass off and hustles with stressful, high risk 80 hour weeks. She doesn’t want kids, doesn’t really contribute anything but her vagina, he pays for everything as she lives rent free in a mansion, and is basically just his personal porn star in her words. She really wants marriage but he doesn’t and even got snipped recently so she can’t oops baby him. She at least eventually resigned herself to that because she’s not going to do any better, but I know him and he’d easily have just wifed her if she wanted a family or to have kids or something. She’s continually drugged out on pharma meds for anxiety and depression issues that I think are just her having failed to have kids, despite living in a little mansion and having not one worry or care in the world otherwise. We’re friends so I’ve tried telling her to just have kids and all that since before she was past 40, but she couldn’t stand anything getting in the way of her partying and drinking it seems. A lot of fun to know and be around, 11/10 to look at, one of the top bods and even personalities on the planet probably, and even then she can’t get anyone decent to wife her without her having kids.
Yeah, my advice for the young is really find someone young (20s), marry and start family, and grow up together. This freaks out a lot of people because they will go on, “ahhh you’re giving up your career, you need to go to college and find yourself!” At the very latest, it’s the next step right after 4 years in college. I interact with a lot of successful business people as part of my work, and attendance and experience at a fancy college is not that common. People skills and experience trump college 100x. I never hear anyone talk about college, but they talk about their kids constantly.
Obviously I didn’t go this route, and I don’t regret it. I really have never been one to want kids, I’m terrible with young kids, and I didn’t know how much of a gift I have with teenagers until I was older. I’ve adapted and I’m happy. It seems to hit women a lot differently as they are older they turn to drugs and cats.
More of the 18-21 year old guys I know now are doing that while in undergrad. Young guys now are way more conservative. I know one kid that doesn’t even like hot lesbians in movies. Told one of them that college was the time in his life he’d be around the most available women before they’re all broken and used up and SSRI’d. He’s doing his best.
Depends on what school you go to as well I suppose. I went to a top tier school so we talk about that all the time and it does connect you to various folks that meet a certain standard. Not sure how much that holds up for the folks currently in them. If it’s not one of those colleges, I wouldn’t recommend people go for most things. Still working on kids myself, mostly wishing I’d had it done earlier but again, alternative is unlimited sex so it’s not like I’m suffering on that front.
Yeah, I did build up more of my connections later, so I can see at least some value in networking at a big school. It's odd for me too having been pretty quiet as a kid to now working in a role where a lot of what I do requires some degree of social interaction. I tell the young people I know, start with learning something that someone will actually pay you to do, and go from there. If that requires college, fine, if it doesn't then fine, and almost never is there any reason for college debt. I owe a ton of where I am to starting my life not sitting on 100k of alcoholic boozefest experience with a piece of paper attached.
I would agree that a lot of young guys are more conservative. I can't really put my finger on any guy I know in the 15-25 group that is just bat shit crazy. I'm sure they exist and I deal solely with "flyover country", but most of what I know are pretty decent conservative guys.
I’m in deep blue territory and even I don’t know young progressive guys in the bluest of areas, though I’m sure they are around. Graduated without debt myself, so that’s another consideration too for school. 300k for $10 more an hour is a net loss.
I'm much younger and I'm not doing that gay shit either or playing step daddy
I actually suspect that she's understating the magnitude of the problem. My guess is the kids will never use a toilet without assistance let alone become functional adults. Women will overstate the extent of their kids' special needs when they're trying to win the "who has it harder" status contest, but they lie in the opposite direction when they're trying to lock down a paypig.
What she copped to on a now deleted account, is definitely not the only thing actually going on.
My guess is mixed race children with multiple fathers.
It's not even guessing to say she can't cook either. Not to mention all the other red flags in that post.
Yeah that too, I don't trust almost anyone who goes on about how they have multiple "special needs" kids. I mean the DNA lottery hits hard there if it's true, and I'm more inclined to think they are just stretching minor behavior things than actually raising their kids.
She's 45 and she says kids instead of teenagers. She'd say so if they were teenagers because that would be a light at the end of the tunnel. A geriatric pregnancy makes this scenario a lot more believable.
The amount of kids fucked up by big pharma is being suppressed. All my friends that juiced their kids, their kids have problems. 100%.
I would if I had the time and resources look after an orphan but WOULDN'T in most circumstances be a stepdad.
Why? If I became a stepdad, I'm dealing with a single mother that might've drove that man out so already a toxic influence on that kid and be planning to drive me out too after draining me. Orphan literally has no one so I'd rather try and help raise them with the sane part of my family than let the state mold them into their toy.
Only exception to being a stepdad is if she's a widow and 100% NOT responsible for in any way his death. Those ones could just be good wife/mother material but fate went fuck you so that's my exception.
I think that once you are in your 40's, you are going to realize that you're not going to have kids with your girlfriend or wife who is also in their 40's, making that really the only way you would even have something like kids.
Sure, your partner could have drove someone away, but she also could have made bad choices, and now she's with the only good choice she made yet.
Yeah, you can say "I'll live alone" but at that point, you're really looking at being well and truly alone when you spend 40-80 with absolutely no one by your side. Men and women really aren't meant to live like that.
Cue the uptick in suicides in the coming decades.
There's going to be a lot of that in all age groups thanks to lockdowns and transgenderism.
We have to raise the survivors.
There's also going to be a metric shit ton of it from people who grow old alone and realize that they have literally nothing to live for because they have no family.
It infuriates me no end that entire generations were raised with the goal of being financially successful rather than with the goal of creating a family. What good is money when all you can spend it on is mindless hedonism?
Also consider that they were taught that financial success is contradictory to having a family.
The reality is that a family is an investment, and starting or building onto a family is the most profitable way to make money. It's actually the primary reason poor people have kids. Kids can actually make more money than they are worth. The issue is that all of the cultural, political, and economic systems are attempting to make the upfront investment costs of children exceptionally high from a material frame.
How would a family farm even run if kids couldn't work until they were 18?
Sometimes you can love a kid that isn’t yours. My friend’s son years ago. I would have took him in if it was absolutely necessary (not likely). I also love my niece who’s in-law acquired and would take her in with my wife if necessary.
It's not for me, but I think it's respectable if you're not responsible for the kid's mother as well. One of the major the problems with getting involved with a single mother is that she's the head of the family, not you. That leaves you with all of the responsibility and none of the authority. Adopting an orphan pairs the responsibility with authority and avoids the issue. I'd never call a man in this situation a cuck if the kid's mother was out of the picture.
I would gladly help financially or with free legal work if any of my friends were suddenly bereaved but I couldn't ever raise a kid that's not mine.
Yeah, one of my friend’s sons was like that me. I’d take him to fun things occasionally, went to some of his sports, etc. He’s 25 now with his own kid and still one of my better friends. I’d definitely had taken him in, and he stayed with me a couple months a few years ago when he was still trying to figure his life out. Then there’s my cousin’s kid I’ve mentioned in posts, yeah there’s no one in the world that if they were gone tomorrow I’d be more upset over. He’d be welcome here right now if something happened to my parents I’d I wouldn’t even have to think about it.
It's even worse. You're also most likely going to have to deal with the kid's father being in your life. And his parents if they want to be involved in their grandchild's life.
I have friend going through this nightmare salad spinner of fuck.
With two special needs kids?
Clearly you don't understand your situation.
What she really means is she wants a wallet to pay for everything.
I think she does, and that's why she's looking for a walking ATM. She needs Cuckold to fund vacations for her and her Chad spawn, preferably without tagging along and inconveniencing her with his existence.
For fun and for morbid curiosity, I set up an account on an online dating service to see how I'd do. My profile was a 40-something who ran a small business (read betabux). I got at least one match every few days; almost all from women with kids. And of those matches, a quarter of them started the conversation (usually with the generic "how are you?").
Because my intention was just to see how often I would match with women and not to actually meet them, I'd see how long they could handle dry "nice weather we're having, how about that sports team?" conversation before they'd unmatch me. Usually all it took was a few days tops.
In the end, not a single one actually chased me down or even tried flirting with me first. Makes sense to me as they would be used to the guy being the one to do all the work.
You wanna know what's really fucked up? This bitch somehow managed to find a boyfriend. I don't know if it's a real LTR or if it's more of a fuckbuddy situation, but either way he's been divorce raped once and knows better than sticking his dick in that feminist electrical outlet again. This bitch is so delusional and entitled that she has cat lady board posters dropping red pills. This one is my favorite:
Remember, there's nothing manly or alpha about allowing yourself to be shamed into doing something that's not in your best interest. Even younger guys are waking up to this because of men's content online and how transparently awful women are these days.
A post wall woman with two special needs sons demanding an older man to pay all her bills for her. And she shamelessly admits she hasn't even broken up with this horrible "narcissist" yet which implies she's leeching his resources until a better offer comes around.
Yeah good luck with that one.
Reading between the lines, her previous husband found her as a backstabbing whore and won the court case to disconnect from her and the illegitimate children. Now she wants another victim.
Their only hope is to be a fun companion who doesn't try to get their claws in his assets and chain him to Chad's kids. Certain men with disposable income and free time might be down for a deal like that, but even then they would probably have younger options. Demanding full price for a beat up car that Chad took a joyride in and discarded? No bueno.
With women like this, she is never yours, it is just your turn.
Patriarchal societies evolved to constrain women just like this.
Lady, I'm going to be blunt. You're lucky if you can con a guy into raising someone else's kids under normal conditions. Someone else's kids who are also special needs? You're looking for a unicorn.
The Wall remains undefeated.
When you describe your ex like this I've already taken his side.
Reddit is the Jerry Springer show of the internet.
We're too busy raising our own kids, sorry not sorry, slag.
The quality of the child's mental cognitive faculties are quite indicative that she's a lowlife drug abuser. I hope the kids get the help they need, but I harbor zero sympathy for the woman that brought them into this world with a losing hand. May she rest in piss.
Makes you wonder if that are just troll accounts, hard to believe someone with 45 is asking these questions and has so much baggage. She should be happy she has a male friend at all.
Enjoy your cats, whore.