It means she's been declared a ward of the state. That's life. Slightly better than prison, but not by much. There's no statute of limitations on crimes that end in "not competent". You go a mental facility until you either die or recover enough to stand trial.
Nope. There's been no sentence so there's no release date to shorten.
Trust me on this, I know from family experience. Declared mentally unfit to stand trial is quite frankly the worst hell in the first world. It doesn't end. Ever.
"Better to shoot 'em now and get it over with." -Scotty, Star Trek VI
I will bet your family is white. The rules are different for them. This useless nigger will be back on the streets before you know it. She can't do the bidding of her masters inside a loony bin.
When a person is declared a ward of the state, some bureaucratic things happen to your identity. You can't get a drivers license. You can't open a bank account. You can't get a credit card. You can't open an insurance policy. Can't buy a car. Can't hold real property.
Your rights evaporate. You are a child. The property of the state until either the state finds you competent to be a legal adult again, or you die.
That is what "ward of the state" means.
A prisoner has more rights than a ward. A prisoner can demand to speak to their lawyer, and subject to visiting hours, has the right to do so. A ward can scream about a lawyer 24-7-365 and the state can ignore them.
I am familiar with how it is supposed to work. You are assuming the state wants to protect us from them. They don't. Every other institution has been corrupted. Why would this one be any different?
This is still the government. The same one that is actively trying to wipe us out and replace us. If you trust them, you are a fool.
The reason u/ModsAreAIDS is arguing with you on this is that last year, there was a high-profile case in which a juvenile was declared incompetent to stand trial after two armed robberies, and then let go, after which point he shot someone else in the head.
It looks like this is specific to Minnesota law and specific to juveniles:
Since the law requires cases to be suspended – even when they involve violent crimes – judges can’t order juveniles to be held in detention or released under law enforcement.
Judges’ hands are also tied in these cases because they have no authority to order children to get treatment to restore them to competence.
Even if they did have that power, there are no competency restoration programs in Minnesota tailored to juveniles.
But you might see why others are worried that "ward of the state" isn't as permanent as in your experience, given that it's already happened once.
I appreciate your experience on this and don't disagree with your premise, but you are thinking that these people do all the things you listed.
You and I live life the way we are supposed to, we participate in society, we follow laws and regulations because it is incredibly annoying to not do that.
Not everyone does that, many people don't own property, or have a credit card, or have a bank account. Many people that aren't supposed to have them, do have them (illegals, criminals, etc), because other people create loopholes to get around the normal process for all these things.
I'm not claiming to know for certain one way or the other, but this is not the death sentence you claim for people who don't follow the rules of society, I think at least.
I know what you speak of. If you're considered criminally insane, you'll likely never leave the mental facility. If the doctors figure out you cheated and thought this would be an easy out, they will consider you insane for doing it, with a sardonic smile.
I just have a pretty good handle on how much horribleness there is in the mundane world to begin with and it keeps me grounded. You do not want to set foot in a mental institute.
Agreed, this is probably a worse sentence than life in prison. When you compare life in prison for most lifers; they get their own wing and basically hang out doing menial things until dead.
In a mental health hospital, if you aren't neglected to be left in your own filth, you can expect to be basically strapped down and injected with drugs in order to control your behavior 24/7.
People testing the mental health system by checking themselves into it as mentally healthy people, have been basically made crazy by the level of abuse, control, and gas lighting.
Vote for Trump, and convice others to vote for him too. People need to go the extra mile to get people to vote for him so that it becomes to big to rig.
if you want things to change, the first and most important thing the general populace needs to learn is that the vote is bullshit. no matter how much we stammer and show proof, the media gaslight machine will convince them otherwise.
the steal has to be so obvious that the normies can't ignore it. for that to happen, Trump needs to win in a landslide, only for that landslide to be reversed at the last second. the reversal needs to be at least twice as big as what we saw in 2020.
I've thought about going on a schizo rant about this, but here's the summery; Priests, jokes aside, aren't exactly stupid people. And I think they know that the largest threat to any stable society is young adult men with nothing to loose, so the majority of their teachings are built around 'gentling' them(read: neuter.)
To anyone interested in this subject, I strongly recommend seeking out "Nature's Eternal Religion" by Ben Klassen, and reading the chapters on Christianity. Of all the text I've seen, it explains the problems better than anyone else.
Unless things turn around, there will be a lot more vigilante justice in the future when the general public realizes that they can no longer depend on the courts.
Looking into this particular case, since it happened very quickly...
The STATE'S psychiatrist (ie, the one working FOR the prosecution) must have been like "oh yeah, she's nuts". When the defense says the client is crazy, AND the state agrees they're crazy, from the judge's perspective it's pretty much automatic.
I think if she stabbed a black child she'd be in jail. If she was a white woman she'd be in jail. I think this prevents a trial with all the racial overtones put on display. Can't have the crackers getting all uppity.
If she is ever "restored to competency" then she will stand trial. Lori Vallow who killed her own kids was deemed incompetent at first, yet she was still sentenced to life in prison eventually.
Cuyahoga County Common Pleas Judge John Russo issued the ruling Friday. He said Bionca Ellis, 33, of Cleveland, will remain hospitalized indefinitely and could eventually stand trial if she improves.
On May 12, 2023, Lori was found guilty of all charges related to the killings of her children and Tammy Daybell;[16] on July 31, she was sentenced to life in prison with no possibility of parole.[17] On May 30, 2024, Chad was also found guilty of all charges.[18] On June 1, he was sentenced to death.
That doesn't mean what you think it means.
It means she's been declared a ward of the state. That's life. Slightly better than prison, but not by much. There's no statute of limitations on crimes that end in "not competent". You go a mental facility until you either die or recover enough to stand trial.
Won't it be released in a year or two due to "overcrowding"?
Nope. There's been no sentence so there's no release date to shorten.
Trust me on this, I know from family experience. Declared mentally unfit to stand trial is quite frankly the worst hell in the first world. It doesn't end. Ever.
"Better to shoot 'em now and get it over with." -Scotty, Star Trek VI
I will bet your family is white. The rules are different for them. This useless nigger will be back on the streets before you know it. She can't do the bidding of her masters inside a loony bin.
I assure you she won't.
When a person is declared a ward of the state, some bureaucratic things happen to your identity. You can't get a drivers license. You can't open a bank account. You can't get a credit card. You can't open an insurance policy. Can't buy a car. Can't hold real property.
Your rights evaporate. You are a child. The property of the state until either the state finds you competent to be a legal adult again, or you die.
That is what "ward of the state" means.
A prisoner has more rights than a ward. A prisoner can demand to speak to their lawyer, and subject to visiting hours, has the right to do so. A ward can scream about a lawyer 24-7-365 and the state can ignore them.
I am familiar with how it is supposed to work. You are assuming the state wants to protect us from them. They don't. Every other institution has been corrupted. Why would this one be any different?
This is still the government. The same one that is actively trying to wipe us out and replace us. If you trust them, you are a fool.
I don't have to trust what they say, I know how the process works and have seen it.
I'll be blocking you after this because your paranoia is exhausting.
lol
Go for it. It isn't paranoia. It's paying attention.
The reason u/ModsAreAIDS is arguing with you on this is that last year, there was a high-profile case in which a juvenile was declared incompetent to stand trial after two armed robberies, and then let go, after which point he shot someone else in the head.
https://www.kare11.com/article/news/investigations/juvenile-justice/kare-11-investigates-legislators-fail-legislative-juvenile-gap-reforms/89-c0b818bf-2f10-420f-bfbd-8eef5d9d32d1
It looks like this is specific to Minnesota law and specific to juveniles:
But you might see why others are worried that "ward of the state" isn't as permanent as in your experience, given that it's already happened once.
It's paranoia, or a cynicism so deep it might as well be. There are lots of black-pilled people here, and I can understand why.
I appreciate your experience on this and don't disagree with your premise, but you are thinking that these people do all the things you listed.
You and I live life the way we are supposed to, we participate in society, we follow laws and regulations because it is incredibly annoying to not do that.
Not everyone does that, many people don't own property, or have a credit card, or have a bank account. Many people that aren't supposed to have them, do have them (illegals, criminals, etc), because other people create loopholes to get around the normal process for all these things.
I'm not claiming to know for certain one way or the other, but this is not the death sentence you claim for people who don't follow the rules of society, I think at least.
"I am shown my interpretation is wrong, but I would rather continue to believe in false things because I prefer resentment."
Because nobody has ever shut down an asylum before.
I can only hope she gets the 'bad retirement home' treatment for the next 40 years.
Gets abused by rough niggers? She'll be doing the abusing
I know what you speak of. If you're considered criminally insane, you'll likely never leave the mental facility. If the doctors figure out you cheated and thought this would be an easy out, they will consider you insane for doing it, with a sardonic smile.
Nice. A small silver lining to this story then. Still not punishment enough though.
Just give her the death penalty
(Shrug)
Under Schopenhauer's interpretation of justice, you're not wrong.
I guess it's some consolation that the animal will at least be kept on a leash of some sort instead of turned free to terrorize the community further.
Always a white pill
I wouldn't say always.
I just have a pretty good handle on how much horribleness there is in the mundane world to begin with and it keeps me grounded. You do not want to set foot in a mental institute.
Agreed, this is probably a worse sentence than life in prison. When you compare life in prison for most lifers; they get their own wing and basically hang out doing menial things until dead.
In a mental health hospital, if you aren't neglected to be left in your own filth, you can expect to be basically strapped down and injected with drugs in order to control your behavior 24/7.
People testing the mental health system by checking themselves into it as mentally healthy people, have been basically made crazy by the level of abuse, control, and gas lighting.
true, but vote anyway.
voting is the absolute minimum, if you don't even do that, then nothing you say holds water.
Vote for Trump, and convice others to vote for him too. People need to go the extra mile to get people to vote for him so that it becomes to big to rig.
He had four years and did nothing to stop this.
Voting is giving consent to this bullshit. They're not counted fairly so it's a way to sap the will from people that want change.
if you want things to change, the first and most important thing the general populace needs to learn is that the vote is bullshit. no matter how much we stammer and show proof, the media gaslight machine will convince them otherwise.
the steal has to be so obvious that the normies can't ignore it. for that to happen, Trump needs to win in a landslide, only for that landslide to be reversed at the last second. the reversal needs to be at least twice as big as what we saw in 2020.
Mmm I’ll vote so hard for you baby
Fool, I am made of water, it permeates every cell in me.
The christcuck cope in the comments about how she'll face justice in the afterlife further reinforces my belief that Christianity is a slave morality.
I've thought about going on a schizo rant about this, but here's the summery; Priests, jokes aside, aren't exactly stupid people. And I think they know that the largest threat to any stable society is young adult men with nothing to loose, so the majority of their teachings are built around 'gentling' them(read: neuter.)
This has had a lot of unintended consequences.
To anyone interested in this subject, I strongly recommend seeking out "Nature's Eternal Religion" by Ben Klassen, and reading the chapters on Christianity. Of all the text I've seen, it explains the problems better than anyone else.
Low iq is gonna be used as "not mentally fit" in a weird reversal in the future.
And the "sentence" will be some hugging and talking about feelings.
Unless things turn around, there will be a lot more vigilante justice in the future when the general public realizes that they can no longer depend on the courts.
Courts and police will exist in enough capacity to prevent this (see UK)
That’s why we had mental institutions.. What happened?
This is what. happened:
https://www.simplypsychology.org/rosenhan_experiment.html
A groundbreaking study that "proved" clinical diagnoses were unreliable. Guess what the author and the study were fake and gay.
https://gwern.net/doc/psychiatry/schizophrenia/rosenhan/2023-scull.pdf
David Rosenhan's academic fraud has done inestimable damage to the world.
Diversity and Inclusion happened ( Intersectional race marxism ).
I’d like to know what qualifies as incompetent to stand trial
Looking into this particular case, since it happened very quickly...
The STATE'S psychiatrist (ie, the one working FOR the prosecution) must have been like "oh yeah, she's nuts". When the defense says the client is crazy, AND the state agrees they're crazy, from the judge's perspective it's pretty much automatic.
Gotcha. Just seemed like she knew full well what she was doing
You should try voting before you say you can't vote your way out of this.
can't really vote away activist judges like this
I think if she stabbed a black child she'd be in jail. If she was a white woman she'd be in jail. I think this prevents a trial with all the racial overtones put on display. Can't have the crackers getting all uppity.
If she is ever "restored to competency" then she will stand trial. Lori Vallow who killed her own kids was deemed incompetent at first, yet she was still sentenced to life in prison eventually.
>be woman
>kill two children
>life in prison
>be man
>kill one adult
>sentenced to death
Lori avoided the DP (death penalty, not the other thing...) on a technicality because the prosecution screwed up. It was on the table.
Thanks Judge, we’ll take it from here 👍
Mentaly incompetant to stand in a Western country for sure.