I was a child when Sailor Moon was going on. Even worse, a female child. I was the literal target audience.
As much as sadcase fake lesbians on Youtube like to make "video essays" that make it sound like motherfucking Shakespeare, we all liked it because it was CUTE. They can make these big declarations about how it was a feminist landmark in culture and create these revisionist narratives about how it inspired them to be manhating legbeard bitches.
But it was about cute girls in colourful dresses, with shiny jewellery, cats and shit.
This Wheels and Roses thing is ugly. The characters look like fucking babies. Of course they will spout Current Year bullshit, while looking like literal toddlers.
Sure, they may appeal to arrested development SJW women, but the literal point of Sailor Moon was how glamorous and pretty it was.
So like... whatever, this shit is not going to hold appeal for men, women who are not adult toddlers, or children. It's a nothing.
(Also, the whole "taking up space" tells me the creator is probably fat and annoying. Like who the fuck wants to describe their work as "taking up space". My Eastern European mother literally uses the joking insult "with you here, there is just more of us" when I'm being useless. Like all I added was one more person without bringing any value. This bitch describes herself like that. And thinks that's a good thing?)
I'd say that this applies in the general sense of any mahou shoujo series. Cuteness is what drives the appeal, such that it's a core aspect of the genre (hell, sometimes even I'm drawn to the girls if they're done right). Western creators really can't seem to, or don't want to, grasp that crucial piece to what makes it successful.
Also, capitalizing "Mansplain" is kind of based. Let's go Men! We rock!
Man, what a mess. The critique was fine, it was just opinions, and did seem to be coming from a good place. He really was "wishing the best" it seems. People are allowed opinions, especially on publicly projects. Put stuff out in the world, others are entitled to interact with it.
Well, kudos to someone making their own shit and not putting Sailor Moon in blackface.
I saw a small trailer on YT. Magical girls with a roller derby gimmick doesn't seem bad. However, Wheels and Roses has hideous Steven Universe style art.
The criticizer DOES have a point in that magical girl genre has evolved past Sailor Moon 30 years ago and if Sailor Moon is your main/only anime inspiration, their cartoon may seem outdated before it's even begun.
The CalArts is more of a concern than the inspiration angle.
The inspiration is a baseline one can build off of. Sailor moon is a team shounen-style but shoujo led romance anime, and there's plenty of room to work with within that. The CalArts style is metastasized cancer, a tumorous growth visible before the body of work is even complete.
The criticizer DOES have a point in that magical girl genre has evolved past Sailor Moon 30 years ago and if Sailor Moon is your main/only anime inspiration, their cartoon may seem outdated before it's even begun.
Mahou Shoujo has evolved so far that the "major deconstruction of the genre" is well over a decade old and has also become outdated and stale.
Which ironically means that "playing it dead straight like the old days" could work, but you need to understand and appreciate what's come and gone since to adapt around it.
The level of suffering and misery in all the deconstructions is purely pornographic, on top of the already ecchi high yuri content Magical Girl already brings. Ryona specifically requires a male to be beating on a girl, so its out just based on definition.
But, with Gushing Over Magical Girls currently airing as it is, we have reached the point where casual BDSM is now just a regular thing in the genre, so the line has clearly been pushed.
I didn't mean they should make a deconstruction. But Sailor Moon has served as the template for so many OTHER magical girl anime that they should make sure what they are making isn't stale while also taking note what has/has not worked with the genre for other titles.
I wasn't saying they should either. Just that Sailor Moon and its template is so old that even its deconstructions are basically ancient and outdated as well.
We live in an era where you have to enjoy something or you are an evil person. Also telling me something has black and queer elements tells me it will suck. Blame the last 12 years of this being shoved down our throats
It's not a race thing at all -- I just have zero tolerance for traces of woke bullshit and frumpy, ugly women (especially black women) are a massive warning sign.
Give me a hot black chick and I'll at least click through the dialogue but with that abomination they've already told me that the game was not made for me.
Used to play Division 2 a while back. Heard they got a new update or some new missions or whatever so I reinstalled just for fun. The new missions involve you taking orders from a fat black chick and I did the same.
Don’t blame you. Honestly any new show with a black/lgbt/female lead is a hard pass from me unless a trusted source recommends it. Before 2014 I’ll give it a shot but I’m so tired of this stuff
It was High Guardian Spice. It actually did eventually come out to a resounding "oh that" where even its defenders were admitting it was "interesting concept poorly executed."
The pronoun creature has a point: You should get paid to give honest constructive criticism. Don't type all that just to get called a chud. Your time is valuable; make these faggots work for it.
Not just censored, but they were rewritten to be cousins. They still acted like a couple outside of dialogue, so it wound up being an incestuous thing too. It's notorious for being one of those times where the censorship wound up making things worse.
I was a child when Sailor Moon was going on. Even worse, a female child. I was the literal target audience.
As much as sadcase fake lesbians on Youtube like to make "video essays" that make it sound like motherfucking Shakespeare, we all liked it because it was CUTE. They can make these big declarations about how it was a feminist landmark in culture and create these revisionist narratives about how it inspired them to be manhating legbeard bitches.
But it was about cute girls in colourful dresses, with shiny jewellery, cats and shit.
This Wheels and Roses thing is ugly. The characters look like fucking babies. Of course they will spout Current Year bullshit, while looking like literal toddlers.
Sure, they may appeal to arrested development SJW women, but the literal point of Sailor Moon was how glamorous and pretty it was.
So like... whatever, this shit is not going to hold appeal for men, women who are not adult toddlers, or children. It's a nothing.
(Also, the whole "taking up space" tells me the creator is probably fat and annoying. Like who the fuck wants to describe their work as "taking up space". My Eastern European mother literally uses the joking insult "with you here, there is just more of us" when I'm being useless. Like all I added was one more person without bringing any value. This bitch describes herself like that. And thinks that's a good thing?)
I'd say that this applies in the general sense of any mahou shoujo series. Cuteness is what drives the appeal, such that it's a core aspect of the genre (hell, sometimes even I'm drawn to the girls if they're done right). Western creators really can't seem to, or don't want to, grasp that crucial piece to what makes it successful.
Maybe they are a fat smelly creator.
Hey. Sup
Every. Single. Time.
Entitled cunts.
Also, capitalizing "Mansplain" is kind of based. Let's go Men! We rock!
Man, what a mess. The critique was fine, it was just opinions, and did seem to be coming from a good place. He really was "wishing the best" it seems. People are allowed opinions, especially on publicly projects. Put stuff out in the world, others are entitled to interact with it.
The criticism was more bubble-wrapped than a fucking museum piece, and the cunt still took issue with it. The hugbox wasn't huggy enough.
"I'm Black and I'm creating stuff! Give me money, and shut the hell up, or you're a Hitler Confederate Slaver."
That's where you're wrong, bucko! This is 2024! The only opinions allowed are the Correct(tm) ones!
Well, kudos to someone making their own shit and not putting Sailor Moon in blackface.
I saw a small trailer on YT. Magical girls with a roller derby gimmick doesn't seem bad. However, Wheels and Roses has hideous Steven Universe style art.
The criticizer DOES have a point in that magical girl genre has evolved past Sailor Moon 30 years ago and if Sailor Moon is your main/only anime inspiration, their cartoon may seem outdated before it's even begun.
The CalArts is more of a concern than the inspiration angle.
The inspiration is a baseline one can build off of. Sailor moon is a team shounen-style but shoujo led romance anime, and there's plenty of room to work with within that. The CalArts style is metastasized cancer, a tumorous growth visible before the body of work is even complete.
Mahou Shoujo has evolved so far that the "major deconstruction of the genre" is well over a decade old and has also become outdated and stale.
Which ironically means that "playing it dead straight like the old days" could work, but you need to understand and appreciate what's come and gone since to adapt around it.
man i feel old
I think magical girl deconstruction is just trying to mainstream ryona
Its too yuri heavy for ryona specifically.
But its absolutely pornographic otherwise.
Pornographic? As in girl on girl, or suffering? Sometimes I wonder which demographics liked PMMM more.
The level of suffering and misery in all the deconstructions is purely pornographic, on top of the already ecchi high yuri content Magical Girl already brings. Ryona specifically requires a male to be beating on a girl, so its out just based on definition.
But, with Gushing Over Magical Girls currently airing as it is, we have reached the point where casual BDSM is now just a regular thing in the genre, so the line has clearly been pushed.
I wish you were wrong.
I didn't mean they should make a deconstruction. But Sailor Moon has served as the template for so many OTHER magical girl anime that they should make sure what they are making isn't stale while also taking note what has/has not worked with the genre for other titles.
I wasn't saying they should either. Just that Sailor Moon and its template is so old that even its deconstructions are basically ancient and outdated as well.
Agreed. If you want to have all the representation you want then by all means make your own content. So I can give credit for that
We live in an era where you have to enjoy something or you are an evil person. Also telling me something has black and queer elements tells me it will suck. Blame the last 12 years of this being shoved down our throats
I grabbed a demo of some RTS that was well-reviewed on Steam.
Start it up. Select first mission. Start mission.
First thing that pops up on screen: mission briefing from cartoon ugly black woman.
Alt+F4, uninstall.
It's not a race thing at all -- I just have zero tolerance for traces of woke bullshit and frumpy, ugly women (especially black women) are a massive warning sign.
Give me a hot black chick and I'll at least click through the dialogue but with that abomination they've already told me that the game was not made for me.
Used to play Division 2 a while back. Heard they got a new update or some new missions or whatever so I reinstalled just for fun. The new missions involve you taking orders from a fat black chick and I did the same.
Don’t blame you. Honestly any new show with a black/lgbt/female lead is a hard pass from me unless a trusted source recommends it. Before 2014 I’ll give it a shot but I’m so tired of this stuff
Taking up space is the aptest of apt description for a queer, black, non-binary creator.
My critique: it looks retarded
shut the fuck up and kill yourself you pronoun faggot
It was High Guardian Spice. It actually did eventually come out to a resounding "oh that" where even its defenders were admitting it was "interesting concept poorly executed."
High Guardian Herbs, I think. They were all named after plants, or something, IIRC.
High Guardian Herbs lol
The pronoun creature has a point: You should get paid to give honest constructive criticism. Don't type all that just to get called a chud. Your time is valuable; make these faggots work for it.
Don't just come out and say you're just an oxygen waster.
At least take investor money first.
wasn't there a lesbian couple in there already? (that got censored out of official english dub at the time)
Not just censored, but they were rewritten to be cousins. They still acted like a couple outside of dialogue, so it wound up being an incestuous thing too. It's notorious for being one of those times where the censorship wound up making things worse.
The kickstarter is about to fail at only 50%. Gotta love it.
Have the archive
https://archive.ph/8mXlg
It's added to my list
I mean it can't be worse than the one where the magical girl gains her power from contraceptive pills, right!?
archiveorlinkoritdidnthappen.
.jpg post.