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Dear America, why? (media.communities.win)
posted 2 years ago by Chukna 2 years ago by Chukna +64 / -0
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– SoctaticMethod1 37 points 2 years ago +37 / -0

Because the Biden administration needed a war for their money laundering operation, who cares about 13 loyal soldiers, how many mansions do they pay for!? /s

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– ajfofjakf 22 points 2 years ago +22 / -0

This sounded almost too crazy. After a very quick look this is what I could figure out.

Sgt. Gee was initially taken to her hometown where a funeral was held. Her family decided she should be ultimately be buried in Arlington. Transport of remains, after some point, is done by commercial flights. Not sure if that is paid for. Per DOD policy:

the primary mode of transportation will be dedicated military or military contracted aircraft if air transportation is required to further transport the deceased member from the preparing mortuary to the place selected by the PADD. All other remains requiring air transportation will be flown on commercial airlift.

A nonprofit, Honoring Our Fallen, stepped in and made a $60,000 donation *directly to the family to have her remains flown by a private flight. Given airlines' track record with moving remains, this was a blessing. The family wasn't forced to pay but, again, I'm not sure if they would have had to pay for the final commercial flight. I wouldn't be surprised if they were, though.

Everything about Zelennskyy is true.

*Edit: donation was made directly to the family, not just for the flight, see post below.

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– OldBullLee 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

Not on point, but . . . is there anyone else offended when dead troopers are referred to as "the fallen" like they were majestic redwoods or something?

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– Hellsbells00 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

No, because that's retarded. It's one thing if they died of a donut overdose or a drunk driving incident, then fuck em. But treating those who died in combat with a bit of respect is not offensive to anyone with a brain.

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– OldBullLee 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

My point is that the cliche rather diminishes the respect intended by the metaphor. It's overused and too easy, reflecting badly on the lazy writer and disrespecting the fact that these are our people, not trees, and their deaths in bullshit wars like those foisted on us over the last 60-odd years were/are unnecessary.

It also makes dying in war seem romantic, which is offensive to anyone who actually has had to face death or disfigurement in war, "Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori" and all that rot. An old, old story.

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– deleted 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0
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– OldBullLee 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Euphemism is a form of metaphor.

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– Hellsbells00 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

M8 you should go talk to some vets before getting offended on their behalf. The ones who volunteer to go and fight, at least a significant portion of them, find the idea of death in battle to be honorable. Not because getting shot is special but because they chose to be there, and that self-sacrifice for a cause is honorable to them.

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– OldBullLee 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

My point comes from respect for combat veterans. I'm sick to death of bullshit patriotism that justifies slaughter for the gain of nobody but the rich and powerful. Using fake and awkward martial language is the stuff of half-literate armchair generals.

And when you're dead you're dead. Period. You don't go to the sawmill to be made into tasteful furniture.

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– AFish 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

It's grass-touching time, my friend.

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– OldBullLee 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

You're right, but not for the reason you think.

I'm just interested in language, and if this point seems trivial and tortured, I hope my explanation in response to HellsBells00 shows where I'm coming from.

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– DemolitionsPanda 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Time to add an item to my Bucket List.

  • Become Majestic Redwood
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– JustHereForTheSalmon 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

I'm just stunned that shipping a body costs that much. You can send a real living human in a great deal of comfort in business class for a little more than a grand. Hell, even round trip sleeper cabins on Korean Air cost less than $60K.

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– ajfofjakf 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

I worded my post poorly. The $60k was donated directly to the family, not on a flight.

My guess is that $60k was to be cover a charter flight for the entire family to Arlington and back, hotel accommodations, things like that.

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– Assassin47 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Thank you for providing the important context.

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– deleted 19 points 2 years ago +19 / -0
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– FuckGenderPolitics 32 points 2 years ago +32 / -0

We have a small but vocal pro-Ukraine minority here.

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– 83671R18 30 points 2 years ago +30 / -0

Tell them to go join the reddit foreign legion.

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– JustHereForTheSalmon 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

I would think the Pro-Ukraine crowd should be very upset America and western powers have been instigating war for their country and systematically cutting off every possible route to peace between Ukraine and Russia.

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– when_we_win_remember 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

I see a lot of clearly planted shills in various forums. This one may not be big enough for many to bother with. These people aren't Ukrainian patriots. They're working for somebody with a stake in there being continued war.

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– Hellsbells00 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

A lot of people confuse being pro-war with russia / pro-"Ukrainian" government as being pro-Ukrainian interests.

People who actually give a fuck about the Ukrainian people would not be advocating for this proxy war. Because the US puppet government in Ukraine is not pro-Ukrainian interests.

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– BulbasaurusThe7th 26 points 2 years ago +26 / -0

We have plenty of local retards. Not trying to point fingers because he is currently not here, but SOME retard tries to debate every single time a woman gets harmed. Like legit cases where there is a dead body, he just claims it's not real.
So having seen that, it's easy to find at least a couple retards.

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– FuckGenderPolitics 16 points 2 years ago +16 / -0

There's someone (probably a troon who followed us over here) who downvotes every single comment in some threads. A couple downvotes on a post/comment don't mean anything.

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– deleted 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0
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– BulbasaurusThe7th 21 points 2 years ago +21 / -0

Imp constantly does that.
"You said I claimed the evil femoids kidnapped and murder men in green cars, I said blue. Therefore you are completely lying to make me look bad, you are one of their agents"

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– Adamrises 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

Hey, at least he acknowledges your arguments and tries to gaslight.

When I talk to him he just changes topic every time because the goalpost was too obliterated to move.

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– elleand202 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

He doesn't even respond to me anymore, lol.

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– deleted 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0
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– Streetshame 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

Honestly yeet them both, have it every time imp gets banned Antonio gets banned as well, vice versa as well, force both those tards to behave

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– MargarineMongoose 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Maybe they'd finally use the time to hate fuck like they both clearly want to.

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– deleted 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0
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– AntonioOfVenice 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

but SOME retard tries to debate every single time a woman gets harmed

Only a TRAITOR would not want women to be harmed. It's just retribution for all the things they have done to us. #NaziGender

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– Slav4U 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

Check OP history, he has posted 99% about Finland joining NATO. Clearly this is a paid propaganda account.

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– deleted 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0
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– Slav4U 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Yup it's pretty obvious in this case. Low effort. Must be the budget propaganda office, usually Russian foreign propaganda is top notch.

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– ArtemisFoul 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

OP keeps spamming unhinged bullshit almost always about Finland, so some people just downvote him on sight, like Jester or Imp.

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– MargarineMongoose 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

Me. Because I dislike OP's contributions to this forum, or should I say his propaganda? I'm honestly surprised he didn't find a way to tie this to Finland.

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– Slav4U 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Must have finally gotten updated orders from the Kremlin.

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– deleted 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0
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– subbookkeeper 18 points 2 years ago +18 / -0

Women don't belong in the military. She should never have been in a situation to be brought home in a box.

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– Adamrises 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Your shill meme would work a lot better if you didn't fuck up the grammar like 9 times.

The war isn't going to end tommorrow and Zelenskyy won't suddenly not be a shitty person by then either, take a moment to proofread your shit.

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– Kweebecker 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Fact check: Zelensky facilitated significant money laundering to benefit several members of both the Left and RINO parties in the USA, including likely Joe Biden himself. Therefore, to say he helped "not a single American" is technically false.

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– Gizortnik 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

The one on the Left gives money to ShareBlue

The one on the Right embarrassed the regime with her death

Simple As

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– rantanon9145 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

This is beyond insane.

What kind of retard does it take to look at this and think "yeah, i want to serve this country"?

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– bloodguard 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

If you keep voting for uniparty candidates you're going to get corrupt nonsense like this.

We really need a "none of the above" option on the ballot. And if it gets the most votes none of the people on it can be listed again and then we have a new election with new candidates.

Eventually the swamp will run through their stable of controlled opposition.

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– Hellsbells00 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

voting in uniparty candidates

Counterpoint - 2020.

Second counterpoint - the local government upheavel wherein actual conservatives have been trying to unfuck the republican party from the ground up has been met with institutional fuckery to stop them.

People don't vote those cretins in.

Third - the educated voter is a myth until universal suffrage is done away with and there are qualifiers on voting again.

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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Because paying her family does not serve the geopolitical interests while paying him does.

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– deleted 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0
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– DomitiusOfMassilia [M] 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Comment Reported for: Rule 2 - Violent Speech

Comment Removed for: Rule 2 - Violent Speech

Do not glowpost.

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– activated_almonds 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

Looks Euro-mutt to me. Unlikely to be chosen for any special honors or grants.

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– TyCat999999 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

I’m not clever or witty enough to come up with the final term, but there’s definitely some room out there to make new race nicknames based on what you mentioned. Asians are “denied applicants” or “the unadmitted,” white people are “merit-based Americans,” something like that, only better.

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– deleted 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0
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– activated_almonds 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I chose my wording with some care.

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