Yes because communists never abused workers or sent them to the gulag. Nope./s
There was even a video recording of Hitler talking about how shocked he was at the horrible working conditions of people making tanks at the Soviet Union
This fucking thing. Communism has awful standards for workers, for the environment and everything. Some asbestos commie block is supposedly amazing. Clothing made out of pure plastic is amazing. Everyone being incompetent and stealing at a factory is amazing.
I suppose if the previous standard for a tsarist era peasant was a wooden shack in the middle of nowhere, a brutalist block might be seen as a step up. In which case the commie does have a pedantic point. But the overall standards for a regular guy in a communist country was still well below what a minimum wage worker in the west had access to.
Just today I saw someone on another site (not reddit) arguing that capitalism is the only system that cannot exist without exploitation and that communism is the only system that can guarantee no exploitation. This faggot has a habit of blocking and deleting the comments of anyone who disagrees with him or proves him wrong, as I had already learned and I watched a bunch of different users find out.
But capitalism trades with those countries, therefore capitalism bad! Don’t mind it’s communist China doing the slave labor, strip mining, sweat shops, etc.
When I see people appropriating the real meaning of words, I imagine them being like "Let's see...what words should I use to describe a system that I hate and also makes me sound smart using it so that I get a lot of reddit karma...aha, I know!"
"........which is why a socialist macronomic kleptocracy like Sweden has a far better health care system than a corprocratic neocapitalist plutocracy like the US."
Well you see, its the USAs fault for not Invading their country, deposing the leadership, taking over the government, and running it by proxy, guaranteeing the citizens get fair treatment.
Oh wait, they bitch about that kind of shit too, because they don't actually care about any of that beyond being subversives
Yeah but later the greatest number of people raised out of poverty was China as they embraced capitalism. All that demonstrates is that the Soviet Union had a huge number of people which is duh. And I mean the Russian revolution was kind of about that.
In reality it means everybody is starving and homeless - but because everybody is poor, starving and homeless there’s no “poverty”. (Except for the great party leaders, comrade!)
Oh, the problem never goes away, administrators just wise up to filing their reports that all is well so they don't get sent to the gulag. And then no one has the courage to say the reports are wrong, because then they get sent to the gulag for spreading sedition.
Farm Worker: "Ah comrade inspector! You will be pleased! We have grown so many potatoes that if we put them into a pile they would reach the feet of god!"
Political Officer: "Comrade, watch your language! You know that we have cast off the shackles of religion! God is imaginary"
This dude uses Vietnam as an example? They had mass famine after "winning" the war until they enacted market reforms to become capitalist. All the shiny new buildings are in the most capitalist areas of the country. There is a reason why in every other place in Vietnam, the original french colonial buildings are still the nicest.
Communism took root in places like Russia and China precisely because the vast majority of their people lived lives that were little better than medieval serfs. Practically anything was a step up to them.
That doesn't in any way mean it's better than capitalism or democracy, or any other economic/political system.
Yep, capitalism is so obviously exploitative and evil that people just flee those shithole countries desperate to emigrate to communist paradises like Stalinist USSR.
Wait, wait, you're telling me that never happens? That people in fact flee in the other direction? Well, I'm sure it's just because of how pervasive and corrupting western propaganda is!
These idiots would be the first Stalin would have disappeared. You do not work (they certainly don't), you do not eat. You do not eat, you are drain on the system. Face the wall please comrade, we have a tool that will help us take care of you.
“I wish to avenge myself against the One who rules above. My object in life is to dethrone God and destroy capitalism. The task is not just to understand the world but to change it.”
typical whataboutism argument. his points about capitalism are actually true, to a degree. many of the products that we rely on in the States and other first world countries do come directly from sweatshop labor and questionable harvesting practices.
The reason for this is not strictly because of capitalism, but rather because of strict labor laws in the first world countries making labor too expensive. The market always takes the path of least resistance, so when slave and sweatshop labor are on the table, the market will take those over well paid and well fed laborers.
Either we actually enforce tariffs and sanctions on countries that allow slave and sweatshop labor, or we ease labor restrictions domestically so that it would actually be financially reasonable to hire domestically.
Unlike communism, capitalism actually has a solution to bad labor conditions.
Leave it to a braindead commie to complain within 3 sentences about trading with communist countries because of slave labor and then blame economic blockades for communist countries failing . Which is it? The slave labor isn't happening in capitalist countries so are we bank rolling slave labor or are refusing to trade? Pick an argument.
I'm just appalled at the lack of ability to maintain a single non-contradictory thought for more than two seconds.
Yes because communists never abused workers or sent them to the gulag. Nope./s
There was even a video recording of Hitler talking about how shocked he was at the horrible working conditions of people making tanks at the Soviet Union
This fucking thing. Communism has awful standards for workers, for the environment and everything. Some asbestos commie block is supposedly amazing. Clothing made out of pure plastic is amazing. Everyone being incompetent and stealing at a factory is amazing.
I suppose if the previous standard for a tsarist era peasant was a wooden shack in the middle of nowhere, a brutalist block might be seen as a step up. In which case the commie does have a pedantic point. But the overall standards for a regular guy in a communist country was still well below what a minimum wage worker in the west had access to.
Just today I saw someone on another site (not reddit) arguing that capitalism is the only system that cannot exist without exploitation and that communism is the only system that can guarantee no exploitation. This faggot has a habit of blocking and deleting the comments of anyone who disagrees with him or proves him wrong, as I had already learned and I watched a bunch of different users find out.
These retards have a insane denial of reality.
It's almost like it's run not for workers but (((Bolsheviks)))
So, like a good commie, he sends political dissidents to the gulag? As a result the structure of politics and morality is unchallenged?
I mean ... he is true to type.
Doesn't all that shit happen mainly in dictatorship / communist countries? Hmmm.
But capitalism trades with those countries, therefore capitalism bad! Don’t mind it’s communist China doing the slave labor, strip mining, sweat shops, etc.
That, or various tinpot dictatorships heavily influenced by Soviet communism.
But didn't you hear? China is "state capitalism." Nevermind the fact that that is an oxymoron to anyone with a brain.
Real Capitalism has never been tried.
When I see people appropriating the real meaning of words, I imagine them being like "Let's see...what words should I use to describe a system that I hate and also makes me sound smart using it so that I get a lot of reddit karma...aha, I know!"
"........which is why a socialist macronomic kleptocracy like Sweden has a far better health care system than a corprocratic neocapitalist plutocracy like the US."
Well you see, its the USAs fault for not Invading their country, deposing the leadership, taking over the government, and running it by proxy, guaranteeing the citizens get fair treatment.
Oh wait, they bitch about that kind of shit too, because they don't actually care about any of that beyond being subversives
And these same redditors will attack Nationalism and support Globalism...
Poor people are FAT
Argument over.
LMAO true. Poor Americans are fat asses while poor Ethiopians are just dessicated skeletons.
Dammit, I had coffee in my mouth...
Its technically true. But millions more were impoverished and/or systemically exterminated.
It wasn't even technically true. They just changed definitions and declared victory. Same thing leftists always do.
pulls out Makarov Tovarich, please face wall.
Tovarich, we kill poor people, now there are no poor people. Poverty over, da?
It isn't technically true lol
Yeah but later the greatest number of people raised out of poverty was China as they embraced capitalism. All that demonstrates is that the Soviet Union had a huge number of people which is duh. And I mean the Russian revolution was kind of about that.
I am assuming that this person lives in a capitalist country
The only good commie...
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What does “poverty” mean in a communist country?
Whatever the state tells you it is, comrade.
In reality it means everybody is starving and homeless - but because everybody is poor, starving and homeless there’s no “poverty”. (Except for the great party leaders, comrade!)
Work those stats like Biden's whipping boy!
Fewer people overall in Stalin's Russia means fewer in poverty, therefore death equals a better life for everyone else.
"Man, it sure was nice of the government to lift us out of poverty by giving us this farm. I wonder who they got it from..?"
"By the way, do any of you know how to run a farm? I don't."
Remember, there is no problem a communist cannot solve by killing people until the problem goes away.
Oh, the problem never goes away, administrators just wise up to filing their reports that all is well so they don't get sent to the gulag. And then no one has the courage to say the reports are wrong, because then they get sent to the gulag for spreading sedition.
Farm Worker: "Ah comrade inspector! You will be pleased! We have grown so many potatoes that if we put them into a pile they would reach the feet of god!"
Political Officer: "Comrade, watch your language! You know that we have cast off the shackles of religion! God is imaginary"
Farm Worker: "That is okay. So are the potatoes."
See! The problem went away!
And they didn't even have to kill anyone! See how merciful the communist is!
This dude uses Vietnam as an example? They had mass famine after "winning" the war until they enacted market reforms to become capitalist. All the shiny new buildings are in the most capitalist areas of the country. There is a reason why in every other place in Vietnam, the original french colonial buildings are still the nicest.
Communism took root in places like Russia and China precisely because the vast majority of their people lived lives that were little better than medieval serfs. Practically anything was a step up to them.
That doesn't in any way mean it's better than capitalism or democracy, or any other economic/political system.
An actual Stalin apologist. The absolute balls.
Yep, capitalism is so obviously exploitative and evil that people just flee those shithole countries desperate to emigrate to communist paradises like Stalinist USSR.
Wait, wait, you're telling me that never happens? That people in fact flee in the other direction? Well, I'm sure it's just because of how pervasive and corrupting western propaganda is!
These idiots would be the first Stalin would have disappeared. You do not work (they certainly don't), you do not eat. You do not eat, you are drain on the system. Face the wall please comrade, we have a tool that will help us take care of you.
Life has given the world nothing but endless suffering.
It's time to end all life!
But first, give me money.
“I wish to avenge myself against the One who rules above. My object in life is to dethrone God and destroy capitalism. The task is not just to understand the world but to change it.”
"now gibs me dat"
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typical whataboutism argument. his points about capitalism are actually true, to a degree. many of the products that we rely on in the States and other first world countries do come directly from sweatshop labor and questionable harvesting practices.
The reason for this is not strictly because of capitalism, but rather because of strict labor laws in the first world countries making labor too expensive. The market always takes the path of least resistance, so when slave and sweatshop labor are on the table, the market will take those over well paid and well fed laborers.
Either we actually enforce tariffs and sanctions on countries that allow slave and sweatshop labor, or we ease labor restrictions domestically so that it would actually be financially reasonable to hire domestically.
Unlike communism, capitalism actually has a solution to bad labor conditions.
Thomas Sowell frothing at the mouth