Preaches the satanic doctrine of "love the sinner."
That came form Jesus. One's supposed to love everyone, even one's enemies. To be clear, to love is to selflessly will the good of another. Enabling delusions isn't love.
I mean, you are wrong. Anyway it's a moot point. Christ said, "go and sin no more" (John 8:11, look at that when Jesus actually says something it's easy to cite) which to alphabet people is hate. Stating the obvious truth that a man will never be a woman or that a union between two men or two women will never be a marriage no matter what the government says is hate. So it really doesn't matter; "love" to them is acceptance of their sin which is unacceptable for any Christian.
Finish the phrase. "By this everyone will know that you are My disciples, if you love one another." He was speaking to his disciples about loving each other. I would stick with "Love your enemies." But that's still ideologically distinct.
Okay, Anti-Theist with a bible hub link to the rescue. I have no dog in this fight.:
Okay, Lapalapa is claiming what he's talking about is John 15:12
My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you. [New International Version]
Here's more of the context. He does seem to be talking to his deciples before his imminent and predicted death.
As the Father has loved Me, so have I loved you. Remain in My love. If you keep My commandments, you will remain in My love, just as I have kept My Father’s commandments and remain in His love. I have told you these things so that My joy may be in you and your joy may be complete.
This is My commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you. Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends.
You are My friends if you do what I command you. No longer do I call you servants, for a servant does not understand what his master is doing. But I have called you friends, because everything I have learned from My Father I have made known to you. You did not choose Me, but I chose you. And I appointed you to go and bear fruit—fruit that will remain—so that whatever you ask the Father in My name, He will give you. This is My command to you: Love one another.
Okay, from the context I'm seeing here, including John 12, 13, and 14, it seems like when Jesus says "love", he's referring to the specific kind of love that he gives to his disciples. It's not just being all sweet and kind, but it kind of seems like it's a bond of obligation between Jesus and his disciples where Jesus is trying to educate them and lead them into understanding how the world is supposed to work, while trying to protect and care for them. In turn, the disciples are needed to listen to him and try and emulate moral and righteous actions.
I guess the point here is that you can't remain in God's love and recieve the blessings of a moral life if you sin... which would be reasonable.
Additionally, I found the "love the sinner" concept appears to have come from St. Augustine instead of Ghandi, which is according to "CatholicAnswers.com"
It’s from St. Augustine. His Letter 211 (c. 424) contains the phrase Cum dilectione hominum et odio vitiorum, which translates roughly to “With love for mankind and hatred of sins.” The phrase has become more famous as “love the sinner but hate the sin” or “hate the sin and not the sinner” (the latter form appearing in Mohandas Gandhi’s 1929 autobiography).
I'd need to see more of his letter to know the context.
This person thinks these are being edgy. Any Christian learns at a very young age that God loves everyone, he doesn’t love the sin you are involved in. I guess this person wants to not be held accountable for their behavior
I dunno about that. He burned Sodom and Gomorrah for way less than what happens on a typical Tuesday afternoon in San Francisco. He'd change his mind if they genuinely repented but salvation would be a long arduous process for those sick fucks. Sodom and Gomorrah didn't have pedophiles using chemicals and mutilating themselves to live out a degenerate fetish.
The Bible doesn't say that anywhere. Nor does the Catechism. Nor did Saint Augustine, although he's attributed it in a book written centuries later by a jew.
What you're saying and what you're quoting still mean two different things.
To love someone just as they are is to give the impression that you are not requiring change. Love is an obligation that goes two ways. God is prepared to love everyone, should they seek redemption and accept his teachings. From what I just read from John 12 to John 15, it sounds like even Christ's disciples are only "in My love", so long as they abide by his teachings. Meaning that that is the obligation: do the right thing, receive the benefits of righteousness.
If and only if you are prepared to do those righteous things, will you receive the benefits of righteousness, and be "in God's love".
Basically God can't love you until you love God. Or in another word: Love is an obligation that you have to devote to righteousness, for you to receive the benefit of that obligation.
Doesn't understand the difference between loving someone and condoning their behavior.
Consider the parent of an alcoholic. The parent loves the child, but knows that alcoholism is a self-destructive habit. The parent's love is that they can forgive the harm their child's alcoholism has done, help them on the path of sobriety, and accept they may slip up.
Likewise, God loves the sinner, but knows sin is destructive. God's love is offering salvation to all rather than abandoning us to destruction.
I forget how rule 7 is supposed to be interpreted, but the account does have a few thousand followers.
There are certainly other, more famous people who say the same thing, but I would say this example shows that it has been taken in as real gospel by NPCs.
I've always hated this "love yourself", "just be yourself", "it's okay for you to just be you" rhetoric I've heard since I was born.
It's garbage. If you're shit, stop loving yourself, love the kind of person you want to be, be ashamed of where you're at, and challenge yourself to be a better person.
I honestly do not think they hate god, they miss having god and religion but are not willing to change for it. So they want to change religion to be more "inclusive".
They hate the structure of reality and want it to change to suit their whims. That is a hatred of God's creation, and of His values, and therefore of His person.
The usual argument one gets is "if it's wrong why would god make them that way" which presupposes the "born this way" doctrine which has no actual science behind it. Nature vs Nurture has never been resolved by anything but incessant propaganda and attacks against dissenters (much like every progressive position).
God is a jealous and wrathful God and you dare say he is good to every religion. Technically you're not wrong because God is goodness and sin is cast down into destruction away from his presence which is good but its certainly not what you bastards mean
Furry avatar. Pronouns. Preaches the satanic doctrine of "love the sinner.". Advocates heresy and blasphemy.
Definitely a pedophile.
That came form Jesus. One's supposed to love everyone, even one's enemies. To be clear, to love is to selflessly will the good of another. Enabling delusions isn't love.
That's Gandhi, not Jesus.
Don't know about Ghandi, but I'm not wrong about Christian dogma.
I mean, you are wrong. Anyway it's a moot point. Christ said, "go and sin no more" (John 8:11, look at that when Jesus actually says something it's easy to cite) which to alphabet people is hate. Stating the obvious truth that a man will never be a woman or that a union between two men or two women will never be a marriage no matter what the government says is hate. So it really doesn't matter; "love" to them is acceptance of their sin which is unacceptable for any Christian.
Yeah people love getting pissy when I cite that. You don't get a free pass and you actually have to repent and change your ways and atone
Jesus said: love each other as I have loved you.
Finish the phrase. "By this everyone will know that you are My disciples, if you love one another." He was speaking to his disciples about loving each other. I would stick with "Love your enemies." But that's still ideologically distinct.
From his example in life you can infer the rest.
It came from Jesus huh? What passage does Christ say those words?
Okay, Anti-Theist with a bible hub link to the rescue. I have no dog in this fight.:
Okay, Lapalapa is claiming what he's talking about is John 15:12
Here's more of the context. He does seem to be talking to his deciples before his imminent and predicted death.
As the Father has loved Me, so have I loved you. Remain in My love. If you keep My commandments, you will remain in My love, just as I have kept My Father’s commandments and remain in His love. I have told you these things so that My joy may be in you and your joy may be complete.
This is My commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you. Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends.
You are My friends if you do what I command you. No longer do I call you servants, for a servant does not understand what his master is doing. But I have called you friends, because everything I have learned from My Father I have made known to you. You did not choose Me, but I chose you. And I appointed you to go and bear fruit—fruit that will remain—so that whatever you ask the Father in My name, He will give you. This is My command to you: Love one another.
Okay, from the context I'm seeing here, including John 12, 13, and 14, it seems like when Jesus says "love", he's referring to the specific kind of love that he gives to his disciples. It's not just being all sweet and kind, but it kind of seems like it's a bond of obligation between Jesus and his disciples where Jesus is trying to educate them and lead them into understanding how the world is supposed to work, while trying to protect and care for them. In turn, the disciples are needed to listen to him and try and emulate moral and righteous actions.
I guess the point here is that you can't remain in God's love and recieve the blessings of a moral life if you sin... which would be reasonable.
Additionally, I found the "love the sinner" concept appears to have come from St. Augustine instead of Ghandi, which is according to "CatholicAnswers.com"
I'd need to see more of his letter to know the context.
"Biblical quarterbacking," as Helen Prejean called it, can go on endlessly.
Jesus also disciplined his disciples
Yes, I think I pointed that out elsewhere.
His last words before ascension.
I asked you plainly. What passage? Because I'm pretty sure you're talking out your ass.
Look it up if you care to.
It doesn't exist.
I did. And it doesn't exist. It's a Gandhi quote as I said. There is a similar but distinct St Augustine quote, but no Jesus quote.
"Love each other as I have loved you."
Citation needed on that one.
This person thinks these are being edgy. Any Christian learns at a very young age that God loves everyone, he doesn’t love the sin you are involved in. I guess this person wants to not be held accountable for their behavior
This is a grown man allowing "upsetti" as a word to even manifest in his head.
Absolutely not. The whole point is that you have to change who you are and can't do that without Christ. Romans 3:23-26.
I dunno about that. He burned Sodom and Gomorrah for way less than what happens on a typical Tuesday afternoon in San Francisco. He'd change his mind if they genuinely repented but salvation would be a long arduous process for those sick fucks. Sodom and Gomorrah didn't have pedophiles using chemicals and mutilating themselves to live out a degenerate fetish.
I haven't seen San Francisco demand to rape angels to death. They're deprived, but haven't gone as far.
Just kids.
Yeah, they would gladly accept Lot's daughters as an offering.
And Jesus told us what to do with people like that
I believe the idea is that he hates the sin, but loves the sinner.
The Bible doesn't say that anywhere. Nor does the Catechism. Nor did Saint Augustine, although he's attributed it in a book written centuries later by a jew.
Were I you I would cease repeating it.
Exactly. Loves everyone but hates sin. I guess tweets like that are meant to stick it to Christianity
What you're saying and what you're quoting still mean two different things.
To love someone just as they are is to give the impression that you are not requiring change. Love is an obligation that goes two ways. God is prepared to love everyone, should they seek redemption and accept his teachings. From what I just read from John 12 to John 15, it sounds like even Christ's disciples are only "in My love", so long as they abide by his teachings. Meaning that that is the obligation: do the right thing, receive the benefits of righteousness.
If and only if you are prepared to do those righteous things, will you receive the benefits of righteousness, and be "in God's love".
Basically God can't love you until you love God. Or in another word: Love is an obligation that you have to devote to righteousness, for you to receive the benefit of that obligation.
I'm not Christian either. I think your conclusion makes sense.
"i have nothing but contempt for your beliefs, but maybe if i say this you'll do what i want"
Was going to post this
Doesn't understand the difference between loving someone and condoning their behavior.
Consider the parent of an alcoholic. The parent loves the child, but knows that alcoholism is a self-destructive habit. The parent's love is that they can forgive the harm their child's alcoholism has done, help them on the path of sobriety, and accept they may slip up.
Likewise, God loves the sinner, but knows sin is destructive. God's love is offering salvation to all rather than abandoning us to destruction.
Why are you screencapturing a complete twitter rando with such a pathetic furry themed avatar and handle? Are we supposed to know who this is?
I forget how rule 7 is supposed to be interpreted, but the account does have a few thousand followers.
There are certainly other, more famous people who say the same thing, but I would say this example shows that it has been taken in as real gospel by NPCs.
God doesn't love you if you're a sinner.
I've always hated this "love yourself", "just be yourself", "it's okay for you to just be you" rhetoric I've heard since I was born.
It's garbage. If you're shit, stop loving yourself, love the kind of person you want to be, be ashamed of where you're at, and challenge yourself to be a better person.
Nobody loves you as you are if you're unlovable.
That is a heretic. The groomer vermin were clensed with fire in sodom and gommorah. Its a shame no such thing is being done to the groomers now
He forgot "God hates fundies."
What sort of fag says "fundie"?
The concept of "god's love" is meaningless to a Buddhist.
God loves everyone and yet good people die so love and killing people aren't exclusive. I can love LGBTQ+ people as I kill them.
I honestly do not think they hate god, they miss having god and religion but are not willing to change for it. So they want to change religion to be more "inclusive".
They hate the structure of reality and want it to change to suit their whims. That is a hatred of God's creation, and of His values, and therefore of His person.
I agree with you, I just think they need religion at some level so they are trying to corrupt it to fit them rather then change to fit religion.
The usual argument one gets is "if it's wrong why would god make them that way" which presupposes the "born this way" doctrine which has no actual science behind it. Nature vs Nurture has never been resolved by anything but incessant propaganda and attacks against dissenters (much like every progressive position).
God preferred incest to faggots so much he destroyed primordial San Francisco so two daughters could fuck their father.
You need to stop being a fucking apologetics cunt and just accept that God smote one for their behavior and not the other.
You mean when genetics were as close to perfect as you could get, thus no need to worry about multiplying flaws?
It wasn't until Moses' time that He went "Okay, that's enough genetic similarity, better mix things up for the good of my creation."
God is a jealous and wrathful God and you dare say he is good to every religion. Technically you're not wrong because God is goodness and sin is cast down into destruction away from his presence which is good but its certainly not what you bastards mean