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Motor Trend has been inflitrated (archive.vn)
posted 3 years ago by AlfredicEnglishRules 3 years ago by AlfredicEnglishRules +37 / -0
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– deleted 31 points 3 years ago +31 / -0
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– ghostfox1_ 20 points 3 years ago +20 / -0

Just assume anyone who thinks we can all switch to EVs today is retarded, because you're right 99.99999% of the time.

In fact, just assume the left is retarded

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– TentElephant 20 points 3 years ago +20 / -0

Just assume the left is retarded evil.

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– Erithal 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

Yep.

If they have a brain, they're malicious.

If not, they're brainless followers of the malicious.

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– TomSeeSaw 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

and followers are always worse. There is no reasoning with them.

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– JuanTitor 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

A transformer at every house, and of course many new power plants, ideally nuclear, but we know that won't happen while those communists seeking the destruction of society rule.

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– censorthisss 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Her being so wrong while writing in such a condescending manner lol

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– SparkMandrill83 19 points 3 years ago +19 / -0

There is a female writer there that is clearly only there to spread the good word of globalism. I've avoided the site ever since

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– AlfredicEnglishRules [S] 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

I knew there were problems, but this is the most obvious one.

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– cccpneveragain 16 points 3 years ago +16 / -0

Oh look another article thinking it's going to convert me to greenish by talking down to me like a condescending asshole. Funny too, I used to want an electric car for the cool factor of the powertrain alone. I've also owned a hybrid car before. With what they are doing to the car industry now for their climate BS, instead I want my next car to have a V8.

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– deleted 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0
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– AlfredicEnglishRules [S] 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Government types always design things for them to control, not for people to enjoy.

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– MLGS 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

The people who wrote them are weak retards who were bullied into their positions, so they think the same approach works on normal people.

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– Galean 14 points 3 years ago +14 / -0

The one thing that gets me is that it says that EVs are more energy efficient then combustion engines. I find that a bit hard to believe. I've not read the entire article and studies in a lot of details but it looks like most energy produced is lost? somehow by the engine. We've had a lot of experience building engines and I find it hard to believe they are that bad. In fact it says that even if the entire grid was powered by coal it would be 31% more efficient to have all EVs. That seems wild. It would imply that The energy lost by EVs combined with the energy lost of producing the energy thru coal is considerably more efficient then a combustion engine.

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– AlfredicEnglishRules [S] 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

I'd love to see an article or two about that.

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– MLGS 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

The answer to every single question about why car companies don't build vehicles in specific niches is "governments made it illegal".

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– fauxgnaws 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

As a rule of thumb:

Passenger cars with 30+ mpg are less polluting than equivalent EVs powered by coal per mile driven (not including manufacturing). Cars with 45+ mpg less polluting than EVs powered by natural gas.

This formulation lets you look at your own car and grid makeup and see that, for most people, the EV even when better is marginally so.

"Efficiency" is a red herring because you can't compare like for like. 40% efficiency of a Prius includes generation and use, but 90% efficiency of an EV is only the use not the generation. For example, an EV powered by solar is often <20% efficient since the panels are only around 20% efficient, which is why they never talk about that. How much energy costs per mile, how much pollution - this is what matters.

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– Assassin47 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

That is, if you believe that CO2 is a pollutant, which I don't. It's a freaking plant food. Want to cut down on CO2? Plant some trees.

Even without being worried about global warming, I think it's nice to move the smog out of cities. I don't want my town to be like Shanghai. That doesn't mean I think there should be any mandates or subsidies.

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– TheModernDaVinci 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

What I want to know is why we skipped Hybrids? At least to me, that seems like the next most logical step: still uses the existing infrastructure, but significantly more efficiently. So you end up with situations like Ford making a smaller size pickup that can be useful for an average persons hauling needs (cant pull heavy trailers, but can carry larger cargo than a car or SUV), and can do it at 45 MPG.

Its honestly what lends me to the idea that it is a deliberate attempt to make it so normal people have no vehicle, thus taking away their freedom of travel.

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– fauxgnaws 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

I think it's more than these leftoids are so convinced that the sky is falling that ALL carbon dioxide has to be eliminated IMMEDIATELY.

Like they actually think we're all going to die because of a few yokels rolling coal, so naturally a most cost-effective hybrid that only cuts out 50% of emissions with no downsides is killing the planet. And a next most cost-effective plug-in hybrid that cuts out 90% of emissions is just not good enough -- that 10% is a deadly poison!!1

The elites that convinced them the sky is falling, they may want to make cars unaffordable but the regular people pushing EVs are just scared out of their gourd.

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– Ateallthecrayons 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Toyota seems to be the only manufacturer still pushing hybrids.

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– kinezumi 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Toyota and Honda. Everyone else has decided to commit to destroying their business model in favour of batteries.

I'm still amazed no-one seems to be serious about hydrogen.

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– Ateallthecrayons 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Toyota does or did (not sure if they still do) a hydrogen fuel cell car, the Mirai, and they had another one before that but the name escapes me at the moment.

I really only mentioned Toyota over Honda about the hybrid vehicles, is because Toyota makes a hybrid version of most of their vehicles. Certain vehicles like the new Sequoia are only available as a hybrid, and I believe the newer Sienna is only available as a hybrid now. I think the new Crown that is coming out is only going to be a hybrid, as well.

Hoping that Honda will make a new NSX, improving on it's hybrid drivetrain.

Edit: Honda also offers the Clarity, available in hydrogen powered or plug in hybrid variants.

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– TheModernDaVinci 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Looking into it, it looks like Hyundai also offers a pretty significant amount of hybrids. The only US maker I saw with a lot is Ford. And if I am being honest, I have actually considered swapping my Jeep Compass for a Ford Maverick (their hybrid pickup) here at some point in the next year or two.

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– Ateallthecrayons 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Shame the wait list for a Maverick is like 2 years now.

A little over $20k, seats 4, has storage, and 40+mpg; wouldn't mind having one myself.

Just hope they turn out to be slightly reliable, some of FoMoCos products have had some problems here lately.

Sucks that the hybrid version of the Hyundai Santa Cruz is delayed to around 2025.

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– ArtemisFoul 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Maybe in the USA. Here in Europe, half the car makers are only offering their higher-end models as PHEVs.

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– when_we_win_remember 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

It makes sense that people would try harder to save gas where gas is more expensive. America's best selling (I think) vehicle, the Ford F-150, is available in a hybrid. People might rather buy the V-8

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– Ateallthecrayons 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Makes one wonder what kind of governmental interference that is preventing that.

Hybrids make a lot of sense over there, fuel costs and all, and the engine displacement taxes that I understand some countries still have.

You get beat up harder than we do in the states, on insurance costs on larger displacement engines as well I believe?

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– ArtemisFoul 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

You don't have to wonder, it's because of EU's regulations on CO2 emissions, which are utter horseshit.

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– Ateallthecrayons 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Well that's one part, plus the good ol' desire for more control.

It is funny how "everyone" is so worried about CO2 as a pollutant, but there are no initiatives to simply plant more trees.

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– GimmeFuelGimmeFire 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Its honestly what lends me to the idea that it is a deliberate attempt to make it so normal people have no vehicle, thus taking away their freedom of travel.

That and the massive push to EVs while also showing their hand by banning the use of EV during energy crises as in Switzerland and soon California.

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– IfThatIsWhatYouThunk 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

"That which is not explicitly anti-communist, will inevitably be subverted by communists" a quote from someone, but I forgot who.

The sheer stupidity of those arguing for EVs is so tiresome. They seem to think these things will magically power themselves. Can't wait for the time this bullshit push for "zero emissions" to inevitably collapse the entire power grid. Because that's the only way this can play out, since they clearly have zero intentions of ever upgrading the grid to be able to handle the increased burden.

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– elleand202 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

"That which is not explicitly anti-communist, will inevitably be subverted by communists" a quote from someone, but I forgot who.

Its a misquote of Robert Conquest's second law of politics.

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– IfThatIsWhatYouThunk 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Thanks. That would explain why I had a hard time looking up the source of it.

"Any organization not explicitly right-wing sooner or later becomes left-wing."

This is the first one I found. Makes sense.

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– BlueDrache 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

It's a main-stream information outlet. Of course it's been kiked.

Of course... the author's name is a bit of a (((clue)))

Every...

Single...

Time.

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– GeneralBoobs 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

To quote the Gray Lady

I too get my bullshit propaganda from Chinese Whores.

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– GloboHomoErectus 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

All of those windmills blades are covered with non-stick PFAS materials that end up in the ground water and fuck up your endocrine system.

They also murder billions of birds and and insects.

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– N14205ST205 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Welcome to the club.

Same thing happened to AutoWeek and Road & Track. Even the auto websites are globalist, woke propaganda rags like all the rest.

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– AlfredicEnglishRules [S] 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Meanwhile the Top Gear/Grand Toure trio are still incredibly popular.

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– when_we_win_remember 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

And I'm not even going to get into the hypocrisy of posting anti-EV rhetoric from a lithium-ion-battery-powered phone or laptop.

If you use a battery for one thing, you have to use batteries for all things.

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