"The Path Forward: Build and Balkanize." -- Torba
(news.gab.com)
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Best said part. Conservatives died in the 70s when democratic subversives started the necon movement. We grew up in the “conservatives” of illegal amnesty, war hawks, and Medicare.
Conservatives died with the Civil Rights Act
I agree with most of that, but "Balkanize" is not the correct term. I guess my arguement's pedantic, but Balkanization requires the intentional effort to use populist rhetoric to establish left-wing sub-strata governments that collapse the overall state. Balkanization is the intentional destruction of the west. That's normally called: a decisive failure.
People usually mean Balkanize just to refer to the breaking up of one region into smaller regions. I hadn't heard that leftist bit before though, so I'm gonna go read up.
No connection with leftism. Yugoslavia was split by right-wing governments.
A-fucking-men, ever since I've got more into politics, I got very disappointed in conservatives. They conserved almost nothing.
If we're going to rebuild, you'll be no part of it. There's no space for people who would desire policy to drive the human race extinct
What "line" is that? You're not going to reproduce. You have no line.
Bro you're so insane and fully committed to your insanity that it's impressive.
Fuckin lol
OMG dude are you doing "lines" of cocaine right now because that's some brilliant nonsense.
From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me.
I craved the strength and certainty of steel. I aspired to the purity of the Blessed Machine.
The female clings to its flesh, as if it will not decay and fail them. One day the crude biomass that they call a temple will wither, and they will beg my kind to save them. But I am already saved, for the Machine is immortal…
Longtime lurker here. After reading this comment of yours I felt a strong desire to tell you to kill yourself. Please just do it. Do everyone a favor and your pathetic existence. You're a fucking shitstain.
You don't have a line without children.
He's right.
I am enlarging this and taping it on the wall behind my monitor so I don't forget it:
'We have to remember that the people in power are rootless cosmopolitan globalist elites. They don’t see themselves as Americans. They see themselves as “global citizens.” They have no pride in our country. They hate it, they hate us, and they want to humiliate Americans while extracting as much of our resources, labor, and military power as possible.'
yes, exactly. beyond the USA, they hate all of Western culture. All culture from ancient Greece and Rome. They hate the people, the customs, the languages, the traditions. All of it. They want it all wiped away from "their" Earth.
Their tactic is to exploit our kindness and reasonableness to subvert our societies and it has worked.
I know I've posted some pretty black pill stuff lately.
This is more about the way forward, Torba's written a blog post/email where he assumes national level elections will be fortified-- in keeping with my own feelings on the matter, and focuses on building from the grassroots a parallel structure which is low to the ground and vertically integrated to avoid tech and media monopoly influence. (ie, 'build your own' taken to its natural conclusion.)
What other seeds need to be sown? How does the Right prepare for a future where national level opposition is a certainty, and the overwhelming majority of civic institutions are converged and enemy held?
How do you build parallel systems when physical infrastructure is converged and enemy held?
Labour unions have a choke hold on all major infrastructure; you can't even learn the skills needed to build and maintain it without falling under their thrall, and they also just so happen to pick the winning candidates the majority of the time.
The fact is, we build these institutions. They've been stolen by subversives and we need to take them back.
FTFY, and agree with the first point.
Generationally, yes. Our side did, and still can build. We need to leverage that creative potential.
It's also worth pointing out that the academy was ceded by the right. We need to build and hold institutional power.
The problem I see is that, 'Taking them [the institutions/infrastructure] back' would require a counter-play to the left's "long-march through the institutions." So I ask:
Are you prepared to dedicate 30-40 years to pretending to be lefty to launch institutional counter insurgence, or are you advocating this path for others as a reasonable solution?
Do you believe we have 30-40 years, given current rates of convergence?
I suspect the answer to both is a hard 'no.'
If so, then we need to reckon with 'the grid' as an outsider.
I think we have to build outside it; arguably from the ground up, as Gab/Torba have. I don't see any other viable alternatives, given the threat Agenda 2030 represents, so it's important to look to Gab as an example of what needs to be paralleled in other spheres.
Republicans will win the Presidency again if they just stop being cucks and they ballot harvest in key states.
The CA GOP has learned to ballot harvest and this is how they manage to win some congressional districts in LA.
Torba is right on building parallel communities and infrastructure but we should never cede all federal races without a real fight.
Harmeet Dhillon should be RNC chair. She understands ballot harvesting perfectly.
foreigners should not be in our politics in any capacity
Even tradcons are waking up after this recent shitshow of an election.
I hear even some GOP boomers saying that the GOP needs to ballot harvest like the Dems.
However, national socialism is a retarded idea.
Torba is certainly right about some things but advocating for national socialism is a huge own-goal.
Until elections revolve around living American citizens who cast physical ballots on Election Day again, you're wasting resources if you focus on convincing people to vote for you. Traditional campaigning doesn't matter when 50% of the votes are cast a month ahead of time.
Could a way forward be a NGO that would fight for election integrity?
Maybe? The question would be how that even works:
With what funding/political backing?
What media would spread the word?
What courts would rule against the government fortifying elections?
NGOs operate at a high level and seem impossibly top-down considering the level of institutional convergence we're facing.
Even without mail-ins, the election is still managed by the State, which can only be trusted to allow voting results that align with its interests.
So you disagree with Torba. Fine.
You don't like NatSoc. Also understandable.
What is your play if not parallel structures a la Gab? How do you propose we move to counter convergence and Agenda 2030 moving forward?
Who wants to tell him?
Si vis pacem, para bellum. Its the only answer.
Conservatives should start building gated communities that just happen to resemble bastion forts.
You can't say any group voted for this shit except leftists, imp. If the elections were legitimate trump would be president. All leftists are the problem. Plenty of women voted right wing in 2020.
Out of morbid curiosity, how do you parse Married Women breaking 6% R?
He won’t answer you, if you actually make a point he can’t argue with then he just ignores it and posts somewhere else.
This has been addressed elsewhere.
When a woman is in a relationship, she prefers a legal and social framework where she can benefit from a strong, empowered man as a provider and protector.
When a woman is not in a relationship she wants to replace her male partner with a strong, authoritarian state that will tax men and provide gibs.
This is supported by the dramatic change in voting patterns after women get divorced, and then switch back to more (generally) conservatives if she gets married again.
I was hoping to see Imp's crazy answer, not the actual answer.
Yep. (Although I was looking to see Imp's explanation, which was suitably off-base)