Every time I see a news report or 'doctor' claim that Myocarditis 'goes away quickly' they are purposefully leaving out a HUGE factor.
Once your heart swells it damages all the interior linings, causing scar tissue to build up. Even if the initial swelling goes down that damage is PERMANENT.
So there is no such thing as 'minor' myocarditis, even a tiny bit of swelling can cause lifelong disabilities.
Just wait 4-5 years until a lot of these kids begin physical sports, suddenly they will all have serious health conditions pop up out of 'nowhere.'
They’ll never, ever, ever admit they were wrong. Ever.
Which, I assume, is because they know that will make them complicit.
Seriously, I got so sick of arguing about this shit IRL that I just don’t even bother conversing with those people about anything to do with it anymore. They fundamentally refuse to see that they have been duped. I tried, for 2.5 years to make them see. Now? Fuck ‘em.
At least I increasingly know that I was right, now. Whatever limited relief that may be.
I don’t know how many remember this, but I commented in, like, February, how an extended “family” member nearly assaulted me across the table at a restaurant, in public, over this…
I wasn’t trying to “convince” her of anything, either. I merely admitted that I had not had her precious “jabs”, after significant goading by other family members (because they are pieces of shit). That was enough for her to hate me.
I can’t imagine I’m alone in this regard. These people went insane with the power the vaxx-partheid gave them. Of course they’ll never admit that was wrong…
There are plenty of complaints to make, but China did figure out how to admit to a mistake properly after the red guard wars. It was called scar art, and people were allowed to show their emotions and realizations in very public areas without being punished. My personal favorite is called Why, and shows a young man surrounded by dead classmates looking at the viewer. Another one was a woman looking at a lightbulb in a style so beautiful I wish I could find it again just to show.
Look up Zhang Yi-Mou's To Live to see an amazing version of scar art that was made fairly modernly.
They faced it, talked about it, and then let it go with a promise to be careful afterwards.
This being the same country that disappears people for even talking about Tiananmen, let alone the entire Uighur situation..? 🤔
Seems an odd country to be “praising” in such a way, particularly when they denied the lab leak to the point of ALSO making people disappear…
I’m really not sure what you are describing in any way makes up for any of that, but sure… I’m glad they have some outlet for their desperate pain at what the fucking regime has put them through…
Different leadership. Deng Xiaoping had to rebuild china from Mao's insanity. He was the one who created the one child policy, and sent half of china out to get educations to replace everyone who had been killed in camps. He also survived the camps and ridicule.
Saying he got something right doesn't negate the evil he and others did.
The leadership now seems to be going power mad and trying to force other countries to have their own red guard wars.
Hey man you're in the same boat as I am. I stopped trying to engage with people on this. If they ask I'll tell them. But most sheeple don't want the truth, they want nice happy cape shit endings and goyslop.
Myocarditis isn't even the most common cardiac condition resulting from the vaccines; just the most noticeable. All the evidence points to the blood clots being far more common. In fact, blood clots are almost certainly an all-but-inevitable result of the MRNA vaccines.
It's possible that these different side effects are all just a difference of degree, caused by a single but currently misdiagnosed process: amyloidosis. Seen a few different sources talking about amyloids. This would explain the strange massive clots of a substance that isn't blood right down to the microclotting in various organs which seems to be extremely common.
It's possible, in at least some cases. But most of the blood clots are a direct result of the vaccine. When you're injected with an MRNA sequence that is designed to tell your blood cells to alter their shape from the naturally round, smooth-walled human blood cell to the spiky, blocky shape of a coronavirus, no one in their right mind could possibly think that isn't going to change the way your blood flows.
There is no doubt at all that it is a result of the jab, but my curiosity is as to whether these clots are made from blood as opposed to a bunch of bootleg strangely folded fibres and proteins instead. That's what the mRNA blueprint turns your cells into factories for, after all, including for prions for some unlucky few. Any clot in a human body is assumed to be from blood, since that is typically what we have inside us, but the jabs introduce a different element (literally) and so the clotting may be a bunch of hard-to-detect little bits of crap, in structures of massively varying sizes, with blood and platelets just being a small part.
If someone acted like Travis with my partner's impending devastation in front of me, there'd be 20% survival chance for the next 9 minutes.
Hell if I even saw Travis doing that to someone else's tragedy I'd still only give it 80% odds, I just despise these soulless spite puppets so much now.
A meta-review from 2022 shows that the overall risk for myopericarditis after receiving a COVID-19 vaccine is low.[6] In addition, the incidence of myopericarditis is significantly higher with a smallpox vaccination in comparison with a COVID-19 vaccination.
Most of the 'vaxxies' are normal every day people with busy lives who didn't have the time to spend hours on /pol/ to get the unfiltered information. They did what their government, their employer, the media and quite probably even their doctor told them was best.
The majority of these poor bastards don't deserve your contempt.
Nobody has their guard up constantly.
'You can fool everyone some of the time, but you can't fool everyone all of the time.'
You were lucky that this particular instance wasn't your 'some of the time'.
So in retaliation for some people wishing death on you, you're going to wish death on people who didn't do that. Makes no sense at all. Just mindless rage.
Some of them were coereced but at least tried to get out of it. If you went along with it willingly, or worse, dmanded everyone else get jabbed too, you get nothing but contempt from me and lets be honest, most vaxtards are in the latter category.
I initially thought the second person was one of those support-trolls. You know, like the people who hear "Motorcyclist crashed and dies" and says "damn, COVID got another one!"
Took reading the comments here to realize he's probably serious.
In which case, I'd answer seriously: Yes, it would be INFINITELY preferable to contract a cold for a few days, than to get a significantly-life-shortening and lifestyle-restricting permanent medical condition.
80% death rate in the "mild side effects" group is very significant.
Myocarditis is not 'mild', and particularly this case is anything but mild. Your claim was not "80% death rate for those experiencing side effects", it was an overall 90% death rate.
It was a failed prediction based on inescapable mandates.
Oh wow, you actually admit a failed prediction? That's good at least.
See, the issue is not even that you made a bad prediction. Anyone can do that, you just more than others. It's that you could have known at the time that it was wrong, which I told you and you just ignored.
It would rely on people seeing 90% of people around them drop dead, which you said a world-wide conspiracy of doctors and virologists would cover up as 'another variant' since they apparently love seeing all their friends and loved ones die, and people just obediently going to take the next vaccine that is killing them.
That alone isn't going to happen. But if it did. A vastly lower death rate would lead to revolutions and guillotines. And as I told you then, feminists would be calling for Fauci's head because their precious Johnny died.
Even after it became clear that this wasn't going to happen, you still doubled down on crazy by saying that Scandinavian countries were only getting rid of Covid rules to make it more painful for men when they reintroduced them...
Do I have to post all the "mild myocarditis" lies in the media? (mostly from women, what a coincidence)
What of it? I take it for granted that the media lies.
But does that mean that there can be no mild myocarditis at all? I'm sure you think there are massive cover-ups (though curiously only of some vaccines), but how many actual fatalities have resulted from the mRNA vaccines?
And how come the Scandinavian governments which you despise so much banned Moderna for young men? Don't they SECRETLY know that Pfizer is MORE LIKELY to KILL YOUNG MEN and they're following their WOMANLY GENOCIDE AGENDA?
It would rely on people seeing 90% of people around them drop dead,
I've seen Imp make this claim, and my interpretation of it was always that 90% of people who developed myocarditis would 'drop dead', not that 90% of people taking this "vaccines" would drop dead, i.e. the so-called 'mild' myocarditis, which mainly affected boys and men, was anything but 'mild'. In my view, you are deliberately misinterpreting what he said to 'win' a pointless internet argument. How sad.
I've seen Imp make this claim, and my interpretation of it was always that 90% of people who developed myocarditis would 'drop dead',
As far as I know, he made this specific claim only once. He actually claimed that 90% of people would get myocarditis, based on his brilliant calculations.
In my view, you are deliberately misinterpreting what he said to 'win' a pointless internet argument. How sad.
I mean, going after the Imp is like shooting fish in a barrel, so I don't even keep receipts. But he's honest enough not to deny it, so I'm not misinterpreting a thing.
Going to die before 50. "At least you didn't get a cold."
Can't even say that.
Corrected Version: "At least the cold wasn't as bad as it could have been!"
Corrected Corrected Version: "At least the cold wasn't as bad as it could have been (maybe, we think)!"
As a cardiologist who got canceled on Twitter a year ago said: "there is no such thing as a 'mild' case of myocarditis/pericarditis."
Thank you!
Every time I see a news report or 'doctor' claim that Myocarditis 'goes away quickly' they are purposefully leaving out a HUGE factor.
Once your heart swells it damages all the interior linings, causing scar tissue to build up. Even if the initial swelling goes down that damage is PERMANENT.
So there is no such thing as 'minor' myocarditis, even a tiny bit of swelling can cause lifelong disabilities.
Just wait 4-5 years until a lot of these kids begin physical sports, suddenly they will all have serious health conditions pop up out of 'nowhere.'
It is so frustrating.
That's the Left's MO, and why the slippery slope works.
They think if there are no IMMEDIATE consequences, there are no consequences AT ALL.
This is why we call them degenerates. They degenerate civilizations.
“But at least he… Oh.”
They’ll never, ever, ever admit they were wrong. Ever.
Which, I assume, is because they know that will make them complicit.
Seriously, I got so sick of arguing about this shit IRL that I just don’t even bother conversing with those people about anything to do with it anymore. They fundamentally refuse to see that they have been duped. I tried, for 2.5 years to make them see. Now? Fuck ‘em.
At least I increasingly know that I was right, now. Whatever limited relief that may be.
I don’t know how many remember this, but I commented in, like, February, how an extended “family” member nearly assaulted me across the table at a restaurant, in public, over this…
I wasn’t trying to “convince” her of anything, either. I merely admitted that I had not had her precious “jabs”, after significant goading by other family members (because they are pieces of shit). That was enough for her to hate me.
I can’t imagine I’m alone in this regard. These people went insane with the power the vaxx-partheid gave them. Of course they’ll never admit that was wrong…
It's really hard to admit being that wrong.
There are plenty of complaints to make, but China did figure out how to admit to a mistake properly after the red guard wars. It was called scar art, and people were allowed to show their emotions and realizations in very public areas without being punished. My personal favorite is called Why, and shows a young man surrounded by dead classmates looking at the viewer. Another one was a woman looking at a lightbulb in a style so beautiful I wish I could find it again just to show.
Look up Zhang Yi-Mou's To Live to see an amazing version of scar art that was made fairly modernly.
They faced it, talked about it, and then let it go with a promise to be careful afterwards.
I truly wish we could do that.
China is a pile of shit, fuck you mean
Yeah, I’m used to seeing people here praise the Ruskis, but praising China..? Is a fairly new contrarian bent…
But hey, “scar art”. Totally makes it all ok, right? 🤦🏻♂️
This being the same country that disappears people for even talking about Tiananmen, let alone the entire Uighur situation..? 🤔
Seems an odd country to be “praising” in such a way, particularly when they denied the lab leak to the point of ALSO making people disappear…
I’m really not sure what you are describing in any way makes up for any of that, but sure… I’m glad they have some outlet for their desperate pain at what the fucking regime has put them through…
Weird flex, dude.
Different leadership. Deng Xiaoping had to rebuild china from Mao's insanity. He was the one who created the one child policy, and sent half of china out to get educations to replace everyone who had been killed in camps. He also survived the camps and ridicule. Saying he got something right doesn't negate the evil he and others did.
The leadership now seems to be going power mad and trying to force other countries to have their own red guard wars.
I remember
Hey man you're in the same boat as I am. I stopped trying to engage with people on this. If they ask I'll tell them. But most sheeple don't want the truth, they want nice happy cape shit endings and goyslop.
Myocarditis isn't even the most common cardiac condition resulting from the vaccines; just the most noticeable. All the evidence points to the blood clots being far more common. In fact, blood clots are almost certainly an all-but-inevitable result of the MRNA vaccines.
It's possible that these different side effects are all just a difference of degree, caused by a single but currently misdiagnosed process: amyloidosis. Seen a few different sources talking about amyloids. This would explain the strange massive clots of a substance that isn't blood right down to the microclotting in various organs which seems to be extremely common.
It's possible, in at least some cases. But most of the blood clots are a direct result of the vaccine. When you're injected with an MRNA sequence that is designed to tell your blood cells to alter their shape from the naturally round, smooth-walled human blood cell to the spiky, blocky shape of a coronavirus, no one in their right mind could possibly think that isn't going to change the way your blood flows.
There is no doubt at all that it is a result of the jab, but my curiosity is as to whether these clots are made from blood as opposed to a bunch of bootleg strangely folded fibres and proteins instead. That's what the mRNA blueprint turns your cells into factories for, after all, including for prions for some unlucky few. Any clot in a human body is assumed to be from blood, since that is typically what we have inside us, but the jabs introduce a different element (literally) and so the clotting may be a bunch of hard-to-detect little bits of crap, in structures of massively varying sizes, with blood and platelets just being a small part.
If someone acted like Travis with my partner's impending devastation in front of me, there'd be 20% survival chance for the next 9 minutes.
Hell if I even saw Travis doing that to someone else's tragedy I'd still only give it 80% odds, I just despise these soulless spite puppets so much now.
Colchicine isn’t used for myocarditis as far as I’m aware, the guy probably has a comorbidity which the myocarditis has now severely complicated.
Buried in that article, it says that Colchicine is also used to prevent atrial fibrillation, which can be a complication of heart failure.
Did some digging
Could be a combo
Always has.
Most of the 'vaxxies' are normal every day people with busy lives who didn't have the time to spend hours on /pol/ to get the unfiltered information. They did what their government, their employer, the media and quite probably even their doctor told them was best.
The majority of these poor bastards don't deserve your contempt.
Nobody has their guard up constantly.
'You can fool everyone some of the time, but you can't fool everyone all of the time.'
You were lucky that this particular instance wasn't your 'some of the time'.
I have nothing but pity for the people coerced and bamboozled into being lab rats.
I have nothing but contempt for the ones who embraced the gene therapy and tried to coerce others for a superiority kick.
In this context, I believe "vaxies" covers the latter category.
There's no evidence that this guy 'tried to coerce others for a superiority kick' though.
OK, so 48% supported stupid mandates. What of it? Does that mean it's OK for you to wish death on people who didn't?
So in retaliation for some people wishing death on you, you're going to wish death on people who didn't do that. Makes no sense at all. Just mindless rage.
Some of them were coereced but at least tried to get out of it. If you went along with it willingly, or worse, dmanded everyone else get jabbed too, you get nothing but contempt from me and lets be honest, most vaxtards are in the latter category.
My mom who is jabbed gave me covid, so yeah what was the fucking point?
Depending on if she was close by after her jab, because of the leakiness, there's a chance (albeit small) she gave you the jab, too.
I initially thought the second person was one of those support-trolls. You know, like the people who hear "Motorcyclist crashed and dies" and says "damn, COVID got another one!"
Took reading the comments here to realize he's probably serious.
In which case, I'd answer seriously: Yes, it would be INFINITELY preferable to contract a cold for a few days, than to get a significantly-life-shortening and lifestyle-restricting permanent medical condition.
Noted that you doubled down on your claim that 90% of people would die from the vaccine in November 2022.
You think that's not what you meant?
Myocarditis is not 'mild', and particularly this case is anything but mild. Your claim was not "80% death rate for those experiencing side effects", it was an overall 90% death rate.
Oh wow, you actually admit a failed prediction? That's good at least.
See, the issue is not even that you made a bad prediction. Anyone can do that, you just more than others. It's that you could have known at the time that it was wrong, which I told you and you just ignored.
It would rely on people seeing 90% of people around them drop dead, which you said a world-wide conspiracy of doctors and virologists would cover up as 'another variant' since they apparently love seeing all their friends and loved ones die, and people just obediently going to take the next vaccine that is killing them.
That alone isn't going to happen. But if it did. A vastly lower death rate would lead to revolutions and guillotines. And as I told you then, feminists would be calling for Fauci's head because their precious Johnny died.
Even after it became clear that this wasn't going to happen, you still doubled down on crazy by saying that Scandinavian countries were only getting rid of Covid rules to make it more painful for men when they reintroduced them...
What of it? I take it for granted that the media lies.
But does that mean that there can be no mild myocarditis at all? I'm sure you think there are massive cover-ups (though curiously only of some vaccines), but how many actual fatalities have resulted from the mRNA vaccines?
And how come the Scandinavian governments which you despise so much banned Moderna for young men? Don't they SECRETLY know that Pfizer is MORE LIKELY to KILL YOUNG MEN and they're following their WOMANLY GENOCIDE AGENDA?
I've seen Imp make this claim, and my interpretation of it was always that 90% of people who developed myocarditis would 'drop dead', not that 90% of people taking this "vaccines" would drop dead, i.e. the so-called 'mild' myocarditis, which mainly affected boys and men, was anything but 'mild'. In my view, you are deliberately misinterpreting what he said to 'win' a pointless internet argument. How sad.
As far as I know, he made this specific claim only once. He actually claimed that 90% of people would get myocarditis, based on his brilliant calculations.
I mean, going after the Imp is like shooting fish in a barrel, so I don't even keep receipts. But he's honest enough not to deny it, so I'm not misinterpreting a thing.