Am I mistaken or does there seem to be a hatred of heterosexual relationships in Hollywood? I’m so sick and tired of modernizations of classics or the need to “reflect the modern world”. There was a time when it was rare that you saw a modern twist on a classic like Tin Man (back when sci fi channel catered to their fans) and Forbidden Planet is based on The Tempest. But now you know exactly what they are going fo me when they say this crap
No, I saw this one for what it is too. The concept of love is intensely tied to monogamy and family. That’s why sex needed to become unemotional, why women are taught to use men, why having a heterosexual preference is bad and that exploring sexual whims is more important than a stable relationship.
They kiss ass to get in (the usual hazing/induction ceremony) but not all of them had to do that; hell, Hollywood is in its 5th generation now. Once in, they marry each other. And then their kids marry each other. And the grandkids marry, say, newscasters/"journalists". Maybe ones who are related to families of politicians. Don't look at the first-gens, or even the Gen-X kids from The Outsiders. Go back to the original Barrymores and Masseys and such and look at family trees ...
This is how you get the beginnings of "nobility", but in this case, Hollywood functions more like an incestuous, cultish new Church, whereas it's the Merchant class that is jockeying to be the new Nobility.
They're definitely against a female woman being in a long term relationship with a masculine man. You can still se relationships were the woman acts like a caricature of a man and the man is submissive, stupid and pathetic. It was part of that new RE series on Netflix - that was some horrible cringe crap.
Have you heard of political lesbianism? It's been a thing for over 30 years as part of feminism. Society accepted it as sane and normal and now we're surprised it evolved into anti-cis hetro normative?
No, it's where ugly hetero women date and marry women out of pure misandry, then proceed to routinely beat the shit out of each other because of their barely-suppressed desire for dick.
There's a reason the classics exist for a reason, just cause the writing team skipped English literature because it was "colonialist " doesn't mean everyone outside of the rat utopias don't love them.
“Not looking for anything serious right now” is code for “not looking for anything serious with you ever”. It means she wants attention and will happily take your money, but she doesn’t view you as a suitable long term mate.
Women don’t make up rules and boundaries if they want to be with you. They break rules and boundaries if they want to be with you.
Sadly I didn’t learn this until my early to mid 20s. Before that I thought with time they would change their mind. That only happens in rom-coms. Anything but an enthusiastic yes is a no.
It's not quite the same thing, I feel. Imp is openly a misogynist (pretty sure you would admit that, hey Imp?), whereas that is just... Nihilism, mainly.
I honestly think it comes down to life experience, though, really.
I assume Imp has had mostly terrible experiences with women, specifically, which has led to... The extremism. I don't know exactly what you, yourself have been through (mostly).
For me, though - I've seen people do some pretty horrific shit (perhaps others here have seen worse. Perhaps not), so I realised... Fairly early on, that people, as an uncontained "mass", in their "raw state", let's say, tend to be... Not that good. Even just arbitrarily and randomly, with no reason to be so.
But I try, try not to let that bitterness and cynicism define me, or take over my psyche (which is, evidently, a struggle, as you have seen), because from experience, if you don't... Contain that, you end up a bitter, miserable, cruel person. And I've seen two generations of family go that way. I don't want to be like that, too.
Becoming like that is no way to live, I'll say that much...
It's not quite the same thing, I feel. Imp is openly a misogynist (pretty sure you would admit that, hey Imp?),
Actually, he denies that it exists. He admits to hating women, but says that it's not misogyny because it is "justified".
whereas that is just... Nihilism, mainly.
It isn't. It's historical Christian teaching, which is accurate even if one rejects the religion. Nihilism would be closer to saying that there is no good or bad.
I assume Imp has had mostly terrible experiences with women, specifically, which has led to... The extremism. I don't know exactly what you, yourself have been through (mostly).
Actually, nothing at all. It was thanks to the internet that I got acquainted with the dark side of humanity. As for Imp, he denies that it is his personal experience, so I assume it's the echo chamber effect. Which also makes feminists grossly overestimate the amount of rape that takes place.
Fairly early on, that people, as an uncontained "mass", in their "raw state", let's say, tend to be... Not that good. Even just arbitrarily and randomly, with no reason to be so.
There almost always is a reason. Even someone who tortures cats has a reason for it: his sick nature makes him take pleasure in inflicting suffering on other beings.
But I try, try not to let that bitterness and cynicism define me
There's no need for cynicism to lead to bitterness. The universe doesn't care about you. Neither do other humans, with a tiny number of exceptions. You need to care about you, because no one else will. And what does it matter if they're bad? Guard yourself against it so you don't have to suffer from it.
And I've seen two generations of family go that way. I don't want to be like that, too.
Part of it is probably genetic, so it's good that you are actively struggling against it.
I am that cynical. I'd go as far as to say women or someone supporting them deliberately created the lie.
Biology doesn't agree with the idea of love, neither does evolution.
Women with loyalty wouldn't survive in the past, they were killed for not changing sides. So what you get is the likes of Ukrainian women, registering on Tinder because their old partners will probably die in the war. That is the truth of women, that they will only care about you until it becomes inconvenient.
That's a reason I can't understand incels. They're not being denied love, there's no such thing, just a bunch of TV propaganda telling them there is.
Ask the men dying in the pointless Russia-Ukraine war whether women are capable of love.
I’ve been very cynical as well after the many times I’ve gotten the “you are such a great guy but I’m not interested speech” only to see the go off with a dude who is unemployed and has no intention of working or a dude that’s in and out of jail but I still have hope
Nice doesn't cut it. Nice isn't going to protect or feed her (hypothetical) kids, or provide her with good genes. In fact, it might be an impediment. Strength, wealth and status is. The guy in and out of jail probably has the first, possibly the second. As for the ones chasing unemployed men, you probably don't want those.
I get that and learned these lessons later than I should’ve but learned them in my 20s. I mentioned the unemployment and jail thing because I’ve heard these very women whine about not being able to find good men.
I have a cousin that used to brag about how he doesn’t like to work because there was always a woman dumb enough to pay his bills… and he was right apparently
Poo Brown gunna get "pig on a spit'd" by the seven coal black dwarves, and the prince will see it through the window and run off crying or start jerking off, one of the two. Straight into the garbage whatever it'll be.
First of all, that picture is horrifying. It looked like a monster movie zombie at first glance, probably the worst timed picture I've seen in a while. Journos should use neutral pics, even if they're "on our side". Good practices matter.
Second... Snow White has, like, four character traits. Two of which are true love and being saved, and the third and fourth are liking housework and nature watching. And there is nothing inherently wrong with any of those four traits.
Am I mistaken or does there seem to be a hatred of heterosexual relationships in Hollywood? I’m so sick and tired of modernizations of classics or the need to “reflect the modern world”. There was a time when it was rare that you saw a modern twist on a classic like Tin Man (back when sci fi channel catered to their fans) and Forbidden Planet is based on The Tempest. But now you know exactly what they are going fo me when they say this crap
Hollywood had openly celebrated hedonism for what 60 years now? The “true love” denial is because they want to completely eradicate monogamy.
Thank you. At least I don’t feel crazy now.
No, I saw this one for what it is too. The concept of love is intensely tied to monogamy and family. That’s why sex needed to become unemotional, why women are taught to use men, why having a heterosexual preference is bad and that exploring sexual whims is more important than a stable relationship.
How dare you state the truth!
Women aren't taught to use men, it's innate.
Well, except for the Hollywood family dynasties .. which are also intertwined with political dynasties, and I'm sure, business ones as well.
They kiss ass to get in (the usual hazing/induction ceremony) but not all of them had to do that; hell, Hollywood is in its 5th generation now. Once in, they marry each other. And then their kids marry each other. And the grandkids marry, say, newscasters/"journalists". Maybe ones who are related to families of politicians. Don't look at the first-gens, or even the Gen-X kids from The Outsiders. Go back to the original Barrymores and Masseys and such and look at family trees ...
This is how you get the beginnings of "nobility", but in this case, Hollywood functions more like an incestuous, cultish new Church, whereas it's the Merchant class that is jockeying to be the new Nobility.
They're definitely against a female woman being in a long term relationship with a masculine man. You can still se relationships were the woman acts like a caricature of a man and the man is submissive, stupid and pathetic. It was part of that new RE series on Netflix - that was some horrible cringe crap.
Have you heard of political lesbianism? It's been a thing for over 30 years as part of feminism. Society accepted it as sane and normal and now we're surprised it evolved into anti-cis hetro normative?
What is that exactly? Is that where women date women in college and then marry men afterwards?
No, it's where ugly hetero women date and marry women out of pure misandry, then proceed to routinely beat the shit out of each other because of their barely-suppressed desire for dick.
I need to watch Tin Man again.
It’s on Tubi. Well it was last year. That’s when I re watched
I think it's still there, I just saw an advert for it.
So it'll be a shit empowerment story, say no more
There's a reason the classics exist for a reason, just cause the writing team skipped English literature because it was "colonialist " doesn't mean everyone outside of the rat utopias don't love them.
Is dreaming about true love bad now?
True love must've been an invention of the patriarchy.
That’s what I notice. They hate the idea of love between a man and a woman
Which is weird, because the lie of "true love" is the only thing propping up women's extortion racket.
Hey I’m currently single. I do hope to meet a good woman. You can’t be that cynical that you don’t think romance is real.
For what is worth I think romance is real and beautiful but takes a lot of work to keep it going.
Your telling me. I’m still working at it. I have the record for meeting the most women who “aren’t looking for anything serious at the moment”
“Not looking for anything serious right now” is code for “not looking for anything serious with you ever”. It means she wants attention and will happily take your money, but she doesn’t view you as a suitable long term mate.
Women don’t make up rules and boundaries if they want to be with you. They break rules and boundaries if they want to be with you.
Sadly I didn’t learn this until my early to mid 20s. Before that I thought with time they would change their mind. That only happens in rom-coms. Anything but an enthusiastic yes is a no.
That surprises me, given we agree more often than not.
It is also very rare. Feminism is going to kill romance entirely
Have you… “Met” Imp..?
He may well be the most cynical person here, at least when it comes to things like this, lol…
Sadly for him. And sadly for us, in that we have to hear it constantly…
True but like the real Luke Skywalker I believe there is still good in him.
He can be unironically right, sometimes. I grant you that.
If you avoid his various “pet issues”, at least.
Though he is completely batshit, when it comes to this particular stuff, lol…
Pretty sure I have him beat. He only says that women are bad. I say that humans in general are bad. I'm at least twice as realistic as he is.
Yeah, but I actually agree with you, there...
It's not quite the same thing, I feel. Imp is openly a misogynist (pretty sure you would admit that, hey Imp?), whereas that is just... Nihilism, mainly.
I honestly think it comes down to life experience, though, really.
I assume Imp has had mostly terrible experiences with women, specifically, which has led to... The extremism. I don't know exactly what you, yourself have been through (mostly).
For me, though - I've seen people do some pretty horrific shit (perhaps others here have seen worse. Perhaps not), so I realised... Fairly early on, that people, as an uncontained "mass", in their "raw state", let's say, tend to be... Not that good. Even just arbitrarily and randomly, with no reason to be so.
But I try, try not to let that bitterness and cynicism define me, or take over my psyche (which is, evidently, a struggle, as you have seen), because from experience, if you don't... Contain that, you end up a bitter, miserable, cruel person. And I've seen two generations of family go that way. I don't want to be like that, too.
Becoming like that is no way to live, I'll say that much...
Actually, he denies that it exists. He admits to hating women, but says that it's not misogyny because it is "justified".
It isn't. It's historical Christian teaching, which is accurate even if one rejects the religion. Nihilism would be closer to saying that there is no good or bad.
Actually, nothing at all. It was thanks to the internet that I got acquainted with the dark side of humanity. As for Imp, he denies that it is his personal experience, so I assume it's the echo chamber effect. Which also makes feminists grossly overestimate the amount of rape that takes place.
There almost always is a reason. Even someone who tortures cats has a reason for it: his sick nature makes him take pleasure in inflicting suffering on other beings.
There's no need for cynicism to lead to bitterness. The universe doesn't care about you. Neither do other humans, with a tiny number of exceptions. You need to care about you, because no one else will. And what does it matter if they're bad? Guard yourself against it so you don't have to suffer from it.
Part of it is probably genetic, so it's good that you are actively struggling against it.
I am that cynical. I'd go as far as to say women or someone supporting them deliberately created the lie.
Biology doesn't agree with the idea of love, neither does evolution.
Women with loyalty wouldn't survive in the past, they were killed for not changing sides. So what you get is the likes of Ukrainian women, registering on Tinder because their old partners will probably die in the war. That is the truth of women, that they will only care about you until it becomes inconvenient.
That's a reason I can't understand incels. They're not being denied love, there's no such thing, just a bunch of TV propaganda telling them there is.
Ask the men dying in the pointless Russia-Ukraine war whether women are capable of love.
I’ve been very cynical as well after the many times I’ve gotten the “you are such a great guy but I’m not interested speech” only to see the go off with a dude who is unemployed and has no intention of working or a dude that’s in and out of jail but I still have hope
Read Robert Wright's The Moral Animal.
Nice doesn't cut it. Nice isn't going to protect or feed her (hypothetical) kids, or provide her with good genes. In fact, it might be an impediment. Strength, wealth and status is. The guy in and out of jail probably has the first, possibly the second. As for the ones chasing unemployed men, you probably don't want those.
I get that and learned these lessons later than I should’ve but learned them in my 20s. I mentioned the unemployment and jail thing because I’ve heard these very women whine about not being able to find good men.
I have a cousin that used to brag about how he doesn’t like to work because there was always a woman dumb enough to pay his bills… and he was right apparently
It's mostly women who fall for that "lie", and not men.
So why do men marry?
Yes. You must dream of communism
Still more realistic than a lifetime marriage that isn't complete misery to appease ever-growing demands.
In other words, the name 'Snow White' is being attached to a story that is not the story of Snow White.
Sounds that way, doesn't it?
So, they've sidelined the hero of the story, and they've taken away the heroine's motivation ... what's left?
Oh, wait, I know what will fill the time in this film!
Thinly-disguised ideological programming!
Just like every other film out of Hollywood in the last ten years.
She also isn't snow white
Poo Brown gunna get "pig on a spit'd" by the seven coal black dwarves, and the prince will see it through the window and run off crying or start jerking off, one of the two. Straight into the garbage whatever it'll be.
So, she's going to be dreaming about hooking up with an endless string of princesses then?
First of all, that picture is horrifying. It looked like a monster movie zombie at first glance, probably the worst timed picture I've seen in a while. Journos should use neutral pics, even if they're "on our side". Good practices matter.
Second... Snow White has, like, four character traits. Two of which are true love and being saved, and the third and fourth are liking housework and nature watching. And there is nothing inherently wrong with any of those four traits.
then that's not snow white.
Here's an idea, instead of shitting up classic kids' movies, you could have a single original idea of your own...?
It cracks me up how many angry responses I get when I make that suggestion
Gal Godot is the evil witch in the film opposite this mutt, btw.
So, she's going to be a lesbian.