Is it actually common in America to see TDS randomly kick in like that also irl?
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I bet Trump tries to get the Secret Service to side swipe random people and pouts when they don't.
Spreadsheet-Americans prove that philosophical zombies are real.
Of course there are lots of morons in America. Leftist ideas are unjustifiable. Therefore, to self rationalize they constantly claim that their (often imaginary) opposition is even worse than what they subconsciously know themselves to be.
That's every sentence out of their mouths is Nazi this and fascist that. Their entire political philosophy is based on self delusion.
Literally sounds like something Hunter Biden (drugs) and the Clintons (executions) would do.
Like something Trump would do? More like something Trump would have done to him if the regressives thought they could get away with it.
Just look at what they're doing to Julian Assange for exposing the DNC's corruption.
That's ironic because Trump wanted Assange assassinated or abducted by force.
That was Mike Pompeo and some "senior CIA officials". Trump considered pardoning Assange.
I still can't believe all you have to make a career is to be called a nigger by Zoe Quinn.
I should have cashed in my "called racial slurs by liberals" points
Trump needs to get a group of shadow advisers (not including his family) if they won't let him put his allies in official positions. Some former military general who would tell him exactly how to navigate around the military to get us out of Afghanistan, or people who could encourage him to do what the people want in spite of CIA pressure. I guess that last one is a tough ask.
My MiL literally foams at the mouth when anyone talks about Trump. TDS is real. She can no longer see our children.
Oh yeah, if left untreated, it flares up whenever the chance to insult the orange guy comes up.
Just watched Jordan Peterson interview an evolutionary biologist. An hour of interesting, completely apolitical discussion.
Then, Peterson starts talking about "dark triad" personalities and the guest goes off on, "well I don't know about narcissism and sociopathy, but psychopathy is definitely a thing and let me tell you, Trump was a psychopath." Peterson doesn't take the bait, keeps talking about personality traits, and this guy keeps steering it back to Trump being a psychopath.
Any examples of Trump's supposed psychopathy? Nope. Just assertions that "what he did to all those people was clearly psychopathy."
TDS is why I completely stopped listening to Sam Harris. Glenn Loury's guests frequently go off on TDS rants. (never any actual criticisms, just rants. To this day I don't think I've ever heard a TDS sufferer give an actual argument against even a policy position, let alone give an example of his presumed hatred for all of humanity.)
I used to get excited when someone that I had some level of respect for (Eric Weinstein, for example) started to complain about Trump. I'd think, "ok, here we're going to get an honest critique! Please, tell me what everybody is so afraid of!" but no, they'd never get there. Just stuff like, "but Trump, am I right?" or "well, you know about Trump" or "obviously we all hate what Trump stands for" as if any of those types of statements mean anything on their own.
Yup, that's one of the distinctions between TDS and people who just don't like Trump as president. I've seen many on the left and right express strong disagreements with his policies, but they aren't the ones with TDS. The TDS-afflicted get unhinged at a moment's notice and don't seem to be know what they are mad about, or if you force them to be specific it's mostly conspiracy theories and fake news.
Speaking of conspiracies, to me this all sounds like symptoms of a population under mass mind control, leading to anxiety and paranoid delusions in some, but that's a topic in and of itself.
I was one of these people during Bush Jr. Now, I'm pretty sure Dubya was a disaster and always has been and continues to be a pretty big piece of shit. But man, I hated that guy during his Presidency, and even more after he got re-elected.
The reason I recognize this in myself, is due to an incident that happened in a meeting of Toastmasters during that time. Now, I was kind of a hotshot and de-facto leader in the grad program that had this TM club. Well-liked, and considered a super smart fellow--tutoring compatriots in several subjects. One day we had a guest from the greater TM organization who sat in. We were getting ready, shooting the shit, and some of it (as it always was) was griping about Dubya. The TM guy was giving back some resistance (which was considered weird), but mostly kept out of it.
We get to extemporaneous speaking, and I'm up at the podium, and the TM guy gives me my topic (with a smirk): "90 seconds about the positive aspects of the Bush Presidency." And it fucking destroyed me. I had never before whiffed this exercise, in fact heretofore crushed it, and I was reduced. I sputtered. I couldn't keep my face from looking panicked. The best I could come up with was some nonsense about how, uh, I guess, uh, they say the stock market uh, prefers the stability, uh, of like a Republican administration, probably." Even the TM guy looks uncomfortable, and my classmates look like they're wondering if they should call an ambulance. It reminds me of the beginning of Infinite Jest.
Even then I knew that couldn't possibly be right. No subject you're really educated about is like that. There's always something that even ironically, that you could point to even though you don't really agree with it, that you could fake. I had nothing. When I tried, it was like that big X with the "ERN" sound from Family Feud came up behind my eyelids. I couldn't even properly frame any issue well enough to invert it to make it sound sort of good. Only bad, bad, bad.
I wasn't even political, and certainly not a Democrat. Considered myself a Libertarian. All I can say is that I was watching literally every episode of The Daily Show. Probably my only source of political "news." I knew Condolezza Rice, and John Ashcroft, and Dick Cheney, all by heart, and I knew they were bad. I had heard over and over how they were bad. But when pressed, I couldn't explain why. Something about the Kyoto Accords?
Here's what worries me. If someone asked me to do the same thing about the Obama presidency (I voted for him) or the Biden presidency, at this point, I don't know if I could actually come up with anything.
Yes. Those suffering TDS use any opportunity to blame trump or accuse trump of something even if it was irrelevant to politics or the law.
Not just Americans
It is. Though outside of social media it seems to be more "forcing themselves to hold it back at all times" instead of just letting loose. Like you can easily catch them off guard and see the TDS start going.
But I live in a medium city with a healthy representation of both blue and red to keep either side from dominating the other out.
I was in Las Vegas a few weeks ago and was talking to a girl at a club. She's a local and I was visiting from out of town so she asked me where I was staying. As soon as I mentioned that I was staying at the Trump Hotel, she immediately launched into a rant about how the orange man is indeed bad.
One of my olde man neighbors regularly haunts my driveway waiting for me so he can rant about "that fucking bastard, Trump".
Still. 2022.
I try to vary the times I leave and come home but something just pops in his addled brain that makes him wander around waiting.
"That asshole flooded the swamp like no president has ever done before, and was the most favorite president of the jews in the history of our country!"
Try that line on him.
yes
people are stupid
Yes. I wasn't a fan of Trump at the time and it still struck me as odd how many times someone would say "Did you hear what the idiot/madman/loser in chief said today?" or direct a completely unrelated work conversation to talking about him. "Hey at least that's not as ridiculous as what this imaginary-insider-close-to-Trump's-thinking claimed he did yesterday..."
Even when he was running in 2016, I watched the debate and thought it was pretty funny, then at work a woman was enraged that he called Hillary "a nasty woman" and claimed he just cost himself the election with that mistake. I didn't understand what the big deal was. I almost said "ok but what if Hillary IS a nasty women?" but held my tongue.
Yes
It was as if after Bush I was deposed, there weren't supposed to be any more Republican presidents. They lost their nuts when Bush II got in, as if it wasn't ever supposed to happen.
And mark my words, it'll happen again.
Oh, and not to mention all the fear-mongering around good ol' Ronnie Rayguns. There's a reason I keep referring to him as that.
Bush 2 was clearly part of the plan for the "powers that be." He was supposed to be the final Republican president by making Republican/Conservative a dirty word you were ashamed to be associated with. That's why such a milquetoast and boring man was treated like the Devil himself.
And it worked. Literally no one under 70 will openly call themselves that. It took Trump's sheer force of personality to uncuck the right wing from its little hole of self loathing and shame, and even still those specific terms/party affiliation is hard for most.
Bush 2 was supposed to be an education president, and generally the country was focused on domestic issues. Don't forget the dotcom crash. Neoconservatism snuck in the backdoor. 9/11 was way too convenient. Bush is a simpleton, but the people behind him were/are the devil.
I always figured the powers that be had multiple factions and they looked at elections like a game. Bush's faction ("the hillbillies") wanted GW in there but at the end of the day no matter who got in would be controlled.
Absolutely will happen, with greater intensity. Just wait until he formally announces; then we'll see a worse shitrain than last time. They've had 6 years of prosecutorial blue balls because Trump is not a criminal. He just knows how to push the left's buttons and enrages the chattering classes and their whores in the media because he proved they know absolutely nothing about what is motivating the politics of the disenfranchised and demonized "deplorable" American working class.
I completely disagree, this is something new, and significantly worse.
But yeah, I think all of us have experience with a random person with TDS in real life. It's fucking startling. I've never seen anyone just randomly, in conversations they aren't involved in, or because they saw a shirt/flag/sign just start going on an unhinged psychotic and uncontrollable rant until Trump.
And look, I know people who ranted about Obama and FEMA Camps, I know people who said Bush should be executed as a War Criminal, I know people boomers who said Nixon should have been jailed, and that LBJ was a genocidal maniac.
No one has reacted the way Leftists do with TDS. Literally no one. Leftists will try and tell me that they were scared and saw MAGA people doing scary thing and glaring at them. Not one Leftist has ever spoken to me about a time where a Trump supporter literally started screaming at them and hurling shit because they heard the words "medicare for all". But literally everyone on the right has a story about the one day some random person wouldn't stop screaming at them about Trump. All of them.
Honestly, if you go back and read accounts from the 1960's, or even prior to the Civil War, or Revolutionary War, you don't hear people behaving like this. People got into fights, even shot each other, because of a political dispute. Nobody just randomly exploded.
And this is because the Useful Idiots of the Left are being psychologically and emotionally abused on an industrial scale, by people who are promoting and normalizing Cluster B personality disorders as normal, if not morally commendable. This is because, they themselves, are mentally ill people with Cluster B personality disorders. As a result, healthy people are being emotionally and psychologically trained to act as if they had Borderline, Bipolar, Historionic, or Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
This is both new and wildly abnormal. People actually don't behave like this, even when tensions are so high they break into a civil war. This is being done to innocent people on purpose.
Yep. TDS is a whole other level of crazy, because the left can't not get even more retarded every election cycle.
They're literally fucking insane, and need to be put in mental health care facilities until they get their heads on straight.
Honestly, just defunding institutions and letting nature heal would probably be enough for the majority of the Left. Not a lot of the elites & activists, but the Useful Idiots.
Just remember there are tens of millions of people who think they're on the right who had major cases of TDS +. judeo-Christians, for the most part.
Yeah, but if we solve the leftist issue, then we can solve the neocon issue.
Just have to fight the bigger battle first, and that's that half the population is completely disconnected from reality
My mom lived in New York in the 60's. She had several people scream at her for all sorts of politics. And that was freaking long island.
At random, apropos of nothing, without even discussing or signaling something about politics?
It's one thing when you say, "Yes, I voted Nixon" and have people start freaking out. It's another to explain the difference between itemized and regular deductions, or asking for a sausage McMuffin.
Middle of school and at random.
To pick a nit: Bipolar Disorder isn't a personality disorder the way BPD, Narcissistic, etc are. That said, a LOT of BPD people are misdiagnosed as having Bipolar instead so I can see whence cometh the error.
Also, if you haven't already and you're interested in the incursion of Cluster B into public discourse at large, listen to Joshua Slocum's "Disaffected" podcast. It's fascinating and the most insightful thing I've heard in as long as I've been following the culture war.
Decades of left wing radicalization beginning in the 1960s resulted in this extreme mental illness.
hehehe... You made a pun =)