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toxicbiofacts 36 points ago +36 / -0

They hate all men regardless of race, they just hate white men more.

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acp_k2win 26 points ago +27 / -1

First smallpox, now this... them injuns can't catch a break.

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Ahaus667 18 points ago +18 / -0

Apparently it’s the only they can’t catch

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RoulerBleu 8 points ago +8 / -0

It's smallPOCs, bigot.

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AndurilElessar 26 points ago +26 / -0

Women were never Comanche warriors. They were all men. There's no precedent for this. What a fucking joke.

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Fartinggoose 17 points ago +19 / -2

Women aren't warriors period. It's the power fantasy of the weak male who wants all women to be like his mother when he was a young child. Arrested development.

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SupremeReader 12 points ago +12 / -0

It's a thousands years old fantasy. Just look at the Amazons.

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BidenLikesMiners -1 points ago +2 / -3

There are accounts of female warriors in history. They are rare, but there are just as many Male nannies.

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MiyamotoHolliday 1 point ago +1 / -0

Not exactly true. Quannah Parker formed a band of Comanche that all suited up to fight when they came to kill him for taking a chief's daughter promised to another man but that was the only instance. IIRC, the sight of all members of the band in war paint is what got the chief to not slaughter the whole group.

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AndurilElessar 6 points ago +6 / -0

Maybe you could share something you have found to suggest that women ever fought alongside the male Comanche warriors, but I cannot find anything saying that? I read Quanah Parker's entire (((wiki))) page, and it didn't mention any female Comanche warriors at all..

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MiyamotoHolliday 2 points ago +2 / -0

Empire of the Summer Moon. Details the entire rise and fall of the Comanche empire far greater than any wiki page. The women didn't fight that day. No one did. But they were apparently prepared to. No fight, no wiki mention probably. But read that book. It's fucking great.

This is all wiki has on it, the book is far better detail: Quanah Parker's other wife in 1872 was Wec-Keah or Weakeah, daughter of Penateka Comanche subchief Yellow Bear (sometimes Old Bear). Although first espoused to another warrior, she and Quanah Parker eloped, and took several other warriors with them. Yellow Bear pursued the band and eventually Quanah Parker made peace with him. The two bands united, forming the largest force of Comanche Indians.

Made peace, no fight. No fight, no wiki Bartle page.

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AndurilElessar 10 points ago +11 / -1

Okay..so you don't have anything showing that Comanche women fought alongside men, ever. You could have just saved yourself some time, and said that.

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BidenLikesMiners 1 point ago +2 / -1

Not being on wiki doesnt mean it didnt happen... surely you'd know this being in gg.

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AndurilElessar 3 points ago +3 / -0

For sure.. that's why I put the wiki in parentheses, because we all know it's jew ran, and is susceptible to the editorial censorious errors that all jew ran sites are.

But by that same token.. just because it's not on there doesn't also mean it is true.

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MiyamotoHolliday -1 points ago +3 / -4

They kinda did though but keep being ignorant or whatever. That was the point. "OH shit, this band's women are wearing war paint too? Let's talk this out maybe." Psyops and posturing effectively are warfare techniques. But keep being semi-semantically right, I guess.

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AndurilElessar 5 points ago +5 / -0

Just because one chief, one time disguised his women to look like male warriors on the eve of a battle to deceive his enemy into declaring peace doesn't mean there's any archaeological evidence to suggest women were consistently fighting alongside the men. I can put a pitchfork in a scarecrow's hand to scare away birds, doesn't make it a warrior that has fought any battles.

Don't you think we would have found something tangible, aside from word of mouth folk tales of female Comanche warriors if it happened at all? Wouldn't there be weapons designed for women? Skeletal, or burial remains of women warriors showing they fought alongside, and were honored like men?

We don't have anything like this aside from tales told to people in history that weren't even there when it happened, and are now telling an author a second, or third hand account passed down generationally by word of mouth.

I don't like relying on that kind of history to shape inaccurate portrayals for people to draw inspiration from. That is how you end up with a female nigger Nordic Viking Jarl like in Netflix's show.

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Knife-TotingRat 2 points ago +2 / -0

Squaws might not have been proper warriors, but they were fucking vicious, and it tended to be their job to tomahawk any prisoners who couldn't keep up. Not Comanche, I'm thinking more of the midwestern tribes here. See: Pierre Berton's accounts of the War of 1812, particularly the end of the first book, the chapter called "William Atherton's Diary" or something like that - it's the account of a white guy who was captured by ... Shawnee, iirc.

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MiyamotoHolliday 0 points ago +1 / -1

You don't understand Comanche if you think it was a disguise.

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Vebent 23 points ago +23 / -0

20th Century Studios which is Disney, right? Of course it's going to be a female lead for something that should have been male.

Anyways, these woketards always go on about using the appropriate for the part. I wonder how much Asian she is compared to how much Native American she is. Lately Hollywood have been using Asians to play Native American leads in TV shows. Yellowstone is a good example, the actress that plays Monica isn't Native American at all.

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Mpetey123 21 points ago +21 / -0

Aren't natives ethnically asian? Weren't there ancestors asians who crossed the Bering Strait?

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Assassin47 17 points ago +17 / -0

No they descended from the sky people.

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dagthegnome 12 points ago +12 / -0

I thought some kind of raven god made them out of mud and breathed life into them.

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loubag1997 [S] 6 points ago +6 / -0

[Citation needed]

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boxofficepoison 17 points ago +17 / -0

It’s 2022, and that heteronormativity is gross, sweaty. It’s the Bering Gay.

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Vebent 11 points ago +11 / -0

Yep. But we technically don't call them Asian though. I'm not trying to get all woke and say that Native American parts are always suppose to be going to Native Americans. I'm just saying that Hollywood plays their rules whenever they want.

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Mpetey123 3 points ago +3 / -0

This is true.

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ParadigmShift2070 5 points ago +6 / -1

they just look like Mexicans now

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Fartinggoose 2 points ago +6 / -4

They're Asians but not natives. Earliest evidence of settlement is European tools being found predating the Indians. Likely Asians invaded and slaughtered the European ethnic settlers.

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SupremeReader 5 points ago +5 / -0

These prehistoric Europeans from tens of thousands years ago have been slaughtered by the repeated waves of migrants to Europe, who make up today's "native" Europeans (today almost all are Indo-Europeans of various kinds).

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RoulerBleu 6 points ago +6 / -0

Angry Basque noises.

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SupremeReader 4 points ago +4 / -0

Some North Caucasians like the Chechens too.

The Welsh and Irish are related to the Basques but they weren't first in Britain.

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Mpetey123 2 points ago +2 / -0

No kidding ain't that something

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Ohdeerlordman 6 points ago +6 / -0

Lol she definitely lied and said she was though, then find out she's Chinese.

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FrozeInFear 19 points ago +19 / -0

Without knowing the plot, a Predator set against 1700's Indians has very weird implications for something coming from Hollywood. Like, would they really decide to show something that could deflect blame from White men for a "historic atrocity?"
I suppose on the other hand, it may just turn it into noble savage saves huwites, they think she's another predator, bing bang boom injun genocide.

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loubag1997 [S] 12 points ago +12 / -0

I suppose on the other hand, it may just turn it into noble savage saves huwites, they think she's another predator, bing bang boom injun genocide.

You called it...I'm sure that's exactly what they'll do. Wokeists are so predictable.

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Soperp 2 points ago +4 / -2

she'll probably team up with the predator to kill evil whites

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throwawayaccount2037 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yup. There's even going to be an embarrassing moment where the Predator somehow gets injured against the primitive weapons and somehow she'll have to don the Predator's gear to fight off the evil white colonists.

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CarmenOfSandiego 7 points ago +7 / -0

Alternatively the Yautja mark her just like they did the other woman in Alien vs Predator because she's "a worthy hunter to be respected" or some stupid concept. Wait and see if they shoehorn in two-spirited to the whole thing, too.

Of course "worthy hunter" still means fuck all as being a historic prequel we still know what happens to her entire people. They lose.

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GoofTroop186 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yeah there’s zero chance this movie isn’t just another chance to beat a dead horse with a predator backdrop

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BidenLikesMiners 3 points ago +3 / -0

Guys, you're all being paranoid. They're going to cast a respectable hwite man like Chris Pratt as Predator. They wont dare disrespect him or have him getting beaten by women in every scene, or make it about race.

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Steampunk_Moustache 18 points ago +18 / -0

Hey, natives?

This is what cultural genocide looks like.

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Eltrion 14 points ago +14 / -0

Just some random thoughts.

  1. if this was an anime or something, I'd think it could possibly be cool, but since it's live western action my first thoughts are that the actress and character are probably both unlikeable cunts and she's unlikely to be able to sell the physicality to make the whole warrior woman schtick work. Women's fight choreography is so bad these days.

  2. they probably won't do this, but this sort of story is super easy to fix. Just have a older male protector character early on

Act 1) father or uncle or grandpa or whatever of main female character leads tribe against brains and brawn villain duo. Female character has youthful innocence and desires to be a cool warrior like the male character even if it's not something women typically do. Dreams are crushed as the harsh reality of combat sets in. Her various warrior skills mastered in peacetime are ineffective in a real wartime situation against foes larger than herself. Manages to stay alive, and gets just enough successes not to be a drag on the party. Male character leads tribe to near victory, but goes down taking out the brawny villain. He goes down a complete badass. He wasn't a Jarhead who needed a woman's advice to come up with a basic plan. He doesnt get humiliated. He was the heart and soul of his tribe. And his loss is devastating. The brainy villain gets away.

Act 2) things go to shit as social cohesion in the tribe suffers from loss of a great leader. She laments how she wasn't able to help more in act 1, possibly blames her weakness for old guys death. If girl ever tried to lead, she's shot down instantly and it only makes things worse. Main candidate for leader is younger male trying to succeed fallen protector, but his immaturity holds him back. He is not a dumbass, he is not a sexist pig who doesn't believe women can lead. He is a charismatic, intelligent, and idealistic young man who is trying and failing to fill some really big shoes. He's also probably being undercut by a pessimistic foil. Things get desperate as brainy villain gets revenge, and it's all she can do just to keep her and whatever few tribes people are still with her alive. Focus on warrior skills like camouflage, foraging, traps, etc. Instead of direct combat. If any direct combat happens it's immediately apparent that it's hopeless, and any attempt to fight back is futile. All she can hope to do is escape. Also, an opportunity to highlight other weaknesses in addition to lack of physical combat power.

Act 3) Brainy villain is lured into situation focusing on battle of Witts. Girl is able to regain some of her spirit and optimism from act 1 rallies what's left of her tribe. She never attempts to be a boss girl, and is never a cunt to anyone. She probably teams up with a younger male character from part 2 as part of a leadership duo and possible love interest. If this is more of an action movie he doesn't need to be a love interest. it might actually be more interesting if he was her brother, and they are both mourning the loss of their idolized father. Little details aren't that important. Brainy Villain is defeated with tactics and teamwork and a combination of already established skills from act 2 and creative uses of skills that failed in act 1. Girl plays instrumental part in bringing team together and bringing down villain, but teamwork is the clear focus.

There. A better story structure with a female lead than anything I've seen from Hollywood in a decade or more

Key points.

It doesn't hate men. The men are competent badasses who can be built into awesome characters even if they aren't the lead. Weaknesses of younger men are due to immaturity and serve to highlight the difference between him and the ideal which he aspires to. And he moves tangibly towards that goal in act three.

People on the same team respect and honor one another. There can be an antihero in act 2 if he's outlined as such, but your core characters act with each other's best interests in mind. If someone doubts someones strength, it's a real, founded, and rational doubt. The characters care about each other and the audience likes them for it. In this structure a brother-sister relationship in times of danger could be a complex thing that can be explored, as opposed to an opportunity for the sister to prove herself the superior sibling who is being kept down by sexism.

It doesn't make the girl hateable. She isn't a cocky asshole, she's an innocent maiden archetype with a tomboy twist. She isn't hyper competent and unbelievable, she's a young girl forced to flee from something a lot more powerful in act 2. Newsflash! This makes the audience root for her. People don't like to see the strong picking on someone smaller than them especially women. Makes you villain hateable and your protagonist easy to empathize with. Character is developed with weaknesses and strengths. Too often a character is designed with a list of cool powers and strengths they have, but weaknesses are ignored when they're almost as important.

Characters are given a chance to develop naturally, and attempt skills in a way that establishes that they are learning them, but aren't truly effective yet. This primes the skill in act 1 or 2 without turning the tide, so it doesn't feel like bullshit when a character randomly has a skill that saves the day in act 3.

Is this just the original star wars trilogy with Luke and Leia switched? Maybe a little, but this basic structure is older than that.

But we all know how this is actually going to go. She's going to be another cunt who is constantly underestimated by everyone purely to give her opportunities to prove strawmen wrong and then be a smug cunt about it. In combat she'll be a remorseless killing machine spouting girl power one liners, and the best any of the male characters can hope to be is a lovable doofus or effeminate cheerleader. The rest will be incompetent, evil assholes who get systematically humiliated for daring to challenge her on anything. Every good character agrees with her 100% of the time and likes her instantly. She suffers no setbacks that cost her more than 5 minutes, and her story arc is the straight line of a combine clearing wheat shaped obsticals.

Didn't intend to go off on a rant like that but I'm sure most of you guys know how frustrating it is to see how obvious it is to see how professional writers keep (intentionally) fucking up and it being obvious how to fix things despite not having much experience writing.

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CanuckElhead 3 points ago +3 / -0

Sounds interesting and like most of these pitches I see on forums like this from fans, it strikes me as being written from an objective standpoint of what would be best suited for the story. That's why this pitch would get laughed out of the room by the people writing it now and why so much of this media is terrible, most of the time it reads like mediocre fan fiction with way settings, characters and plots get twisted to serve the story they want to write.

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BidenLikesMiners 1 point ago +1 / -0

You should get into screenwriting Eltrion, this sounds like a decent treatment for the idea. Did you write any other fictions as well?

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Eltrion 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yeah. A lot of outline work, never really bothered to fill out anything in to much detail, but I have about a dozen txt files with the outlines of stories in them, and another with a couple dozen one line concepts. I've started a two novels that never really went anywhere. I'm mostly only good at the framework stuff. Characters and intricate settings are the tough part.

I've though about maybe doing a game or something now and again, but what I do now is much more reliable at paying the bills, so...

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GiveThemNothing 9 points ago +9 / -0

It's not Cultural Appropriation when it is done by the church of woke.

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Coolgenner 8 points ago +8 / -0

Oh for the love of god , so sick of stronk wimmen

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ArchRespawnsAgain 7 points ago +7 / -0

Amber Thighthunder?

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subbookkeeper 6 points ago +6 / -0
  • Features massive bodybuilders, movie is called Predator

  • Features Woman, movie is called Prey.

Did they mean that?

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anonymous570861 6 points ago +6 / -0

I seen something about an American Indian and a movie called "Prey" and thought it was related to the 2006 Video Game. The game was actually a pretty good game in my opinion, definitely an unique game in terms of setting & character ability. I don't remember which tribe the main character Tommy belonged to.

I'm still shocked the game didn't get a sequel and instead the 2017 Prey game has nothing with do with the 2006 Prey game. I know the main character Morgan Yu in 2017 Prey is half Asian so he meets the "diversity" standards of the Woke Left but I'm truly shocked a badass full blooded American Indian didn't get more notice from the Woke Left that constantly bitches about White characters & protaganists, even in settings where non-White characters make no sense.

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TomSeeSaw 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yeah the 2006 Prey was fantastic.

Sadly the natives aren't as important as the roots crowd thats busy shooting everything to shit. Probably because the natives mostly destroy themselves, while the other kind destroys themselves and everyone around them.

Hmmm.... suddenly the "Islam" apologist condition begins to make sense too.

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RealDrJester -1 points ago +4 / -5

Indeed!! I loved the game and the story. I wish we had a sequel, they were making it but got canceled. Supposedly you were to go alien planets.

Portal before portal.

On that note, I recall Bethesda released that prey game in 2017 with that name to keep the copyright of the name. Or something.

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TomSeeSaw 5 points ago +5 / -0

Intergalactic Hunter gets beaten by trumped-up-squaw.

Sounds kosher.

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Coolgenner 3 points ago +4 / -1

She stick um peace pipe into injun snatch.

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Lord_Cthulhu 3 points ago +3 / -0

No one ever comments about how the commanche only took their current tribal lands in like 1650 with the help of European technology...

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BidenLikesMiners 2 points ago +2 / -0

TFW you think its a game adaptation.

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Smith1980 2 points ago +6 / -4

I’m sure there could’ve been some Native American female warriors but we all know the reason for this

I wasn’t sure if there were any but I’ve been educated on that. Clearly this is more agenda from Hollywood

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loubag1997 [S] 17 points ago +17 / -0

I'm sure there could've been some female warriors

Yeah, no...

https://www.grunge.com/265660/comanche-the-most-powerful-native-american-tribe-in-history/

Comanches evolved into a force of violence that no one could withstand. They waged war on everyone who came into contact with them—and usually won. One reason for this success was their brutality. A Comanche raid was a terrifying affair. All male enemies would be killed, without exception—even if they surrendered. Older children would be killed as well. Young children would be taken captive, and the women would be sexually assaulted and killed.

You've been drinking too much koolaid

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Assassin47 14 points ago +15 / -1

Though I wouldn't be surprised if the Comanche's today are pozzed like everyone else.

"We Comanches Have ALWAYS Embraced Female Leadership And It Made Us Stronger - By Margaret S. CrazyHorse Rosenberg".

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Smith1980 8 points ago +8 / -0

Thanks for clarifying. I figured there weren’t but wanted to be sure

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DieHeretic 5 points ago +5 / -0

You beat me to it, every other tribe that came into contact with the Comanche lost people and territory. They were more like Mongol warriors, kill all the men and small childre, rape and enslave the women.

Burn anything they couldn't take with them.

Indians were never peaceful living on this continent, they were actual savages.

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ChaosCowboy -1 points ago +2 / -3

To be fair so were many European tribal societies.

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trump4045 3 points ago +3 / -0

It's interesting to watch the Euro supremacists split on that. We all know tribal societies are similar regardless of where on earth they are.

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ChaosCowboy 2 points ago +2 / -0

Problem with north american history is its propoganda and revisionist propoganda so sorting out the truth of things is tricky. Add to the natives not writing anything fucking down and you basically have unreliable history for anything not European where it comes to North America.

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Shill4Hire 5 points ago +5 / -0

Ah, how peaceful and friendly they were, before those damn Spaniards showed up.

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JohnTorrington 4 points ago +4 / -0

But but the white men was ruthless for no reason against those peaceful indians!

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trump4045 7 points ago +7 / -0

There arent any female warriors, women defended their homes when men were out on raids, and likely quite poorly. The wokists, cucks and simps take that and run with it.

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toxicbiofacts 9 points ago +9 / -0

women defended their homes when men were out on raids, and likely quite poorly

Honestly, I doubt that as well. It's very unlikely that older men (45+), male slaves and teen boys went on raids and all of the above are able to fight much better than women. The claim that the men left women and children completely alone sounds like feminist historical revisionism bullshit.

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trump4045 4 points ago +4 / -0

Good point.

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Smith1980 5 points ago +5 / -0

That’s what I figured. But you are right about them running with one story of a woman fighting in desperation

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censorthisss 6 points ago +6 / -0

Only if you define a warrior as someone who grabs whatever weapon they can to defend themselves once all their men have been slaughtered. But even then, 99/100 women in that situation would cower in the corner hoping they'll be allowed to live.

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Smith1980 5 points ago +5 / -0

True. Which makes this movie more ridiculous

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Mpetey123 4 points ago +4 / -0

I think with Comanches, warrior was like a caste more than a job. That was all they did was warrior stuff.

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BidenLikesMiners 2 points ago +2 / -0

and if you havent fought irl, that includes most men, too.

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Wheres_Varg 2 points ago +2 / -0

You seen AVP? If they do what they did with that piece of shit movie, then I think it's game over for the Predator franchise.

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loubag1997 [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

The more modern shit like this I see, the more I think the roid raged 80s masculine action flicks, like the first Predator itself, represented the last dying scream of masculinity in the west.

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Wheres_Varg 2 points ago +2 / -0

Time to bring that shit back. I'm sorry, I don't and can't believe that women can somehow all of the sudden gain the Ultimate Warriors strength and fight a 7 foot tall predator with a spear, like in AVP. In AVP, a scientist lady suddenly gained mythic fighting powers, and joined forces with a rogue predator to fight Xenomorphs and badguy predators, and went basically uninjured. Even Dutch from the first movie had severe injuries by the end. I want these directors and writers to be fired, they should go back to making soap operas for old women.

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DomitiusOfMassilia 2 points ago +2 / -0

Isn't this significantly old news? I swear we heard about this last year.

Wasn't the predator also female?

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Chairman_Pooh 1 point ago +1 / -0

There are no Comanches left to complain.