For Trump alone, there have been 3 different incidents:
- Butler, Pennsylvania - 1 audience member killed, 2 others injured
- West Palm Beach, Florida - Traffic stop resulted in injuries to a 6-year old girl
- White House Correspondents Dinner
Charlie Kirk's killer was also not identified based on pre-trial facts regarding the weapon and force. There are also some who question the sincerity of his widow.
So, with that said, why did they stage the press dinner? Which, if any, of the other events were also false flags?
Fuck off back to reddit OP.....
DNA1 is a fed. Next question: Why, and who else?
Why would a fed say something was staged?
the same reason the SPLC laundered money to the KKK and other "far right" demonstrations: controlled op.
What's being controlled?
Trump is the most MIGA president in the history of the U.S. according to himself, and certainly he is the most modern one as exhibited by the Iran war.
Democrats could not ask for a better lightning rod. Republicans will be slaughtered in the mid-terms especially as the economy continues to worsen.
Discrediting conspiracies? We have plenty of them that the feds don't like such as 9/11. They don't involve aliens.
Go fuck yourself.
Outstanding reply. You sure told him.
Fuck off retard.
Intelligent, astute and concise reply. Thank you for blessing us with your IQ and wisdom.
Trump being simultaneously the best president we've had in 25 years and being a terrible MIGA stooge (like all the rest in since Bush sr) is beside the point.
The point is the attempts on his life are incredibly impractical and dangerous to fake.
*The SPLC bought off informants in pro-White groups for the purpose of destroying them.
that's their excuse, but it doesn't explain how these groups and rallies only ever pop up at the worst possible times. Looking at you Patriot Front (who was also funded by the splc)
They don't. Unite the Right was in August of 2017 for instance. There was nothing special about the time. It was just a rally to stop the destruction of a Robert E. Lee statue.
retard. Donald Trump had just beaten Hillary Clinton in a presidential race that was completely guaranteed for Clinton. with Trump in power, they needed to show the world that Nazis were on the rise.
leading up to that event was the start of mainstream clashes between antifa and right wingers. the right wingers were looking too sympathetic, lacking and clearly holding back on violence wherever possible. there was also a distinct lack of nazi symbolism, the closest thing being the kekestani flag which was obviously a joke to anyone who bothered to look into it.
Charlottesville changed all that in the public eye.
Only because right-wingers are anti-White
You're pissing your pants here over Nazis when there were tons of commies there on the left. You can easily win the optics war against them. Instead, right-wingers betrayed pro-White activists. You raised money in Heather Heyer's name and put jailed James Fields for life. There is no place for pro-White politics within the right-wing. It has to be its own thing. The only thing we can count on right-wingers to do is stab us in the back while the left attacks from the front. You're still doing it nearly a decade later.
I don't understand how saying that events are false flags is an automatic sign of controlled op.
The first Trump assassination attempt had bizarre coordination from the secret service along with footage of an agent directing camera crews where to stand to take a picture of Trump's injury, which resulted in a picturesque photo op for him. I remember it coming at a point in the campaign where many people were still hesitant to support Trump due to failure from the first presidency; that changed significantly after the assassination attempt. Remember that one of Trump's primary roles is to serve as an avatar of the modern right wing and to harmlessly vent nationalist frustration.
Likewise, support for Trump is critically low currently, so it is extremely suspicious that there is another "assassination attempt", especially one with the fake right wing icon Erika Kirk in attendance, who took over Turning Point after the successful, probably-real assassination of Charlie Kirk following his beginning to question Zionism and jews.
I don't think it serves (((feds))) at all for people to immediately call into question political theater.
citation needed
https://www.bitchute.com/video/iZsPVdFHWUte
Hard to find one without the voiceover
it serves them greatly when it shields their radicalized warriors. there have been attempts on right winger's lives throughout the entirety of the 2020s, not just on Trump. they want to make opposition feel scary, they want you to feel like you'll get gunned down by a random nobody because you don't go along with their agenda. they want their future gunman to feel emboldened to carry out the deed, and brushing off such blatant and obvious violence as a conspiracy theory is a great way to do that.
Well, I see your point, but I also don't think that the right wingers who think it's staged are going to overlap with those who doubt liberals' violent tendencies.
However, I just saw that apparently Alex Jones is saying it's staged, and he's definitely controlled op, so now I'm not so sure.
Because every fucking retard in the country is now claiming that nobody on the left wants them dead even as they kill them. The left on the other hand gets to say their violent rhetoric isn't a problem
It doesn't make sense that stating that an attempt on Zion Don is fake equivalent to stating that nobody on the left wants right wingers dead. Zionald isn't even right wing. I also don't think anybody except literally retarded zombie boomers and do-nothing normie faggots believes that the left doesn't hold violent hatred towards them.
Because more than anything they fear people figuring out that genuine assassinations can work. As long as every event is a false flag, or is staged, or is Mossad, then it allows people to believe the comforting lie that they cannot do anything. This leads to inaction which is the same as a win for the powers that be. On the other hand, if a series of successful assassinations were carried out in the US, no matter who was the target or the political affiliation of the perpetrator, then the myth of government protection gets broken. From that point on, real vigilante justice would become commonplace.
Lol, which one of these has "worked"?
Kirk? Where he was replaced be his neo-con, zionist, (potentially) child trafficker wife? Did that make things better for the Left.
Or are you just fed posting?
I guess you completely forgot how the feds got everyone believing that Israel killed Kirk.
Why would feds want to push that narrative? It seems to me that anti-Israeli stances generally cause a trickle effect towards true noticing.
Anyone that actually believes the bullshit about Erika Kirk is retarded
Have you every played a video game where there are ranges greater than 30 feet?
You don't have to be close to the asshole that needs killing. You don't even have to be in line of sight in the modern world.
You're questioning the pre-established premise, now.
Not sure about that, but there is definitely a lot of flak in this thread...
Wasn't staged, you can't stage with the rifle set up he had a bullet ONLY grazing his ear. Brandon did a great experiment showing this.
You're talking about the golf course on with the guy with links to Ukraine and I think Blackrock too, I think that was the guy.
The recent one, the Californian Teacher who turns out, was a 'dev' and his game on steam is in a ratings war between people buying the game to rate it high in support of the attempt and others buying, rating it low then refunding it, is probably just insane, he's a Californian teacher.
As for Charlie Kirk's killer, I believe the current guy on trial did shoot him but wasn't THE ONLY ONE involved in it, he had a lot of accomplices.
Can we please stop with the 'false flag' shit when in reality the situation is the left is homicidally insane, the Republicans in the Senate especially are too old, sit on their hands RINOs, Isreal has STILL got too much influence and Soros' activist AGs and judges are impeding any mass deportations on a scale to halt further damage.
This is what I believe as well, he had a bunch of people helping him, on Discord and elsewhere. I believe this is part of the overseas links that Joe Kent was talking about when asked about the Charlie Kirk assassination, overseas Discord users.
It's why Candace Owens is distracting anyone from actually asking the right questions
The immediate jump with so many on the right to calling everything a false flag and some fedop is as irritating as it is interesting. There's definitely some strange psychology going on with that. A confluence of multiple factors I think. First, most of those types aren't really that intelligent. They might not be retarded or incapable of living a normal life, but their ability to form and analyze complex ideas in their heads is somewhat low. This leads them to being unable to see nuance, incapable of telling the difference between similar but different things, and prone to lumping a lot of things together because it's easier on the brain.
I find a lot of them are people who were formally normie types who believed the news, read the newspaper, went along with the crowd, and then something happened that broke them from that pattern. They discovered one lie and it shook their understanding of the world so much that they ran as far away from that as possible. Instead of believing everything, they now believe nothing. There are some conspiracies that are true of course. For instance, we know the Clintons have had people murdered. But if you were to present an intelligent and thoughtful person with 10 conspiracy theories, they might be able to come to the conclusion that these 3 are true, these 4 have elements that are true but are overall false, and these other 3 are totally false. The typical 'conspiracy theorist' we're talking about though will just believe all 10.
There's an emotional aspect as well. People like to puff themselves up and think they're more important, more knowledgeable, more astute, etc than they really are. There is a temptation towards this feeling like they are in on some secret knowledge and how it grants them a special status. They are prone to thinking believing in every crackpot speculation they run across actually means they're more intelligent than everyone else, because they're one of the special chosen few who knows what's really behind everything. It feels good to think you're apart from everyone else because you know something they don't or saw truths they couldn't. The irony is that for most of them, they're actually believing mostly lunatic bullshit because they're less intelligent, with a handful of true things thrown in by chance. There's an interesting Dunning Kruger Effect element in which the typical crackpot 'space isn't real' types believe they are smarter than everyone because they are in fact dumber.
I find it mostly ends up being two types of people. Young guys in their 20s who are just believing the opposite of the common view because it's rebellious and different, and being young makes one want to act that way. And older guys in their 40s or 50s with mostly boring and predictable lives, working boring a predictable jobs, feeling overwhelmed and awash in a world where the bad guys win most of the time and there are so many forces and organizations that don't care about them and work against them most of the time. Being able to sit at their computer desk reading 4chan or watching Rumble videos and telling themselves this means they're warriors in a secret war against the forces of evil is emotionally gratifying, despite being nonsense. It's actually quite pitiable, and I would feel sorry for more of them if they weren't so insistent on being as loud, abrasive, and irritating about it as they are.
It's pretty rare to actually read anything insightful on this place anymore on threads like this but I like this one.
Based on what evidence?
The gun that, somehow, wasn't found by the bomb sniffing dogs, but was immediately found by some random dude once the FBI arrived on scene? The one that the prosecution refuses to give to the defense for examination?
The text messages to his "lover" in which he said he had intended to take the secret to the grave, but proceeded to spill his entire plan instead? The text messages that won't actually be presented in court, but instead pictures of the text messages that an agent took? The phone that the prosecution won't give to the defense for examination?
The fact that in said text messages, he claimed to want to go out on "his own terms" in what was clearly implied to be a shootout with the cops, but instead turned himself in?
The paper note that he wrote and left at his computer that was apparently destroyed but we have "evidence of it" that detailed his plan, despite his intention to take the secret to the grave?
The fact that they keep claiming that he turned himself in but can't produce video of him turning himself in, despite FOIA requests, because it was deleted?
The fact that many people keep claiming that he professed his guilt but for some reason, he seems to be fighting it out and paying for expensive attorneys? That his family doesn't seem to think he's guilty? (not in a "he dindu nuffin, he a good boy and it was Charlie Kirk's fault for bullying him!" way)
The fact that Erika Kirk immediately "forgave" him but also keeps fighting to have the case sped up as much as possible (invoking Utah state's victim's right to a speedy trial -- NOT the same thing as a defendant's right to a speedy trial) rather than simply let the justice system do its thing?
I've barely even scratched the surface of inconsistencies on this thing. To this day I have seen zero evidence that I find remotely convincing that Tyler Robinson is guilty of anything. A conveniently time-cropped video showing some dude running across a roof line and a couple of grainy photos that look vaguely similar to any number of lanky white guys. And a rifle -- inconsistent with the wound -- that miraculously appeared on scene nearby that was disassembled, assembled, fired, disassembled, and reassembled prior to being stashed and missed by bomb dogs. This isn't compelling evidence.
Some queer furry trans lover shooting Kirk is the easiest thing in the world to believe, so you'd need to have some really powerful evidence to put that into 'hard to believe' category.
Text messages: he thought he would get away with it, then when he sees himself on the camera he tries to keep his gay lover off the hook.
Fighting in court: other crazy libs are paying for it, the gov't won't let him off with a low-time plea deal because politics, so he rolls the dice at trial.
Erika: she's acting out good-Christian in forgiving him, and her and Turning Point seem to have a lot of secrets they want the spotlight off of.
So you lead with the obvious, easily explained ones?
Basically the government hasn't shown you their entire case and all the evidence, you say "why haven't they shown us the entire case? huh? conspiracy they're hiding things!"
News for you, that's what the trial is for. That's when you get to see the entire case made, not before the trial.
Charlie's killer cannot credibly be what is stated based on public facts since the caliber of weapon doesn't align with happenings. The bullet force should be larger than it was.
No, it shouldn't. The 30-06 round was the primary round used by the US for both WWI and WWII, producing 1-2 million casualties overall, many of which were well documented in various after action reports, medical reports, etc. What the 30-06 round can do when it enters the human body is in fact one of the most well documented and understood ballistic effects in the history of firearms. Hell, the US Army even wrote a book about it called "Wound Ballistics in World War II". Charlie's wound was well within that established baseline.
Stop listening to crackpots on Rumble. It's bad for your head.
I think I'll continue listening to ballistic experts on YouTube that examined the footage closely and making my own opinions rather than an unhinged social media poster like you who goes on 4+ lengthy paragraphs making psychological projections.
The bullet didn't have enough force. And that's the main inconsistency in the saga, never mind a myriad of other topics that another user touched upon.
You're genuinely a low IQ lunatic.
I don't think you understood this the first time because you are brain dead, but I don't care about your arm-chair diagnostics.
Maybe you can join MLGS, he's been raring to continue guzzling excrement and semen out of Trump's anus. There's a few of you that can gather together for the shit bukkake.
Why do people keep saying this? Why would you assume a bullet had to geaze his ear instead of him just popping a blood pack behind the podium? The "shot" was easier to fake than the Kirt shooting.
...there were people directly behind him in the stands so THEY'D have to be in on it to when there were people calling out the shooter BEFORE he shot as they saw him on the sloped roof.
There's less to suggest Trump faked it and more that the Democrats ARRANGED for the shoddy security as it was VERY suspicious Biden dropped out after the attempted when a day before he was determined to stay in despite his awful debate.
you could not fake what happened. Nobody can reliably shoot the ear of a moving head without killing the person.
you are just a reddit nigger.
Lol.
I saw Trump go down. I saw Trump come back up with "blood" on the side of his head. I saw Trump with a fully intact ear three days later.
Whoever said he was shot in the ear?
The bullet didn't go through his ear, it sheared skin off at the top, aka grazed it. What scar would that produce?
Why even entertain this retarded flat earther level conspiracy?
Literally everyone. Trump, the news, the videos where he suddenly grabs his ear before dropping to cover, and the ballistics reports.
I know I'm going out on a limb here, but maybe...just maaayyybe...the shootings are the result of the left simply getting away with violent rhetoric and violent actions for over a decade with institutional support
Yeah, a slight gust of wind and even the world's best sharpshooter would accidentally kill him. And wind isn't even the biggest or more likely variable.
So this is sitting at +10 votes and not 0 because of that downvote error, right?
Comments don't seem to show many agreeing with him. All 10 of you have the balls to put your name down here as an upvote?
You're late to missing downvotes - https://communities.win/c/Meta/p/1ASGJ3V1M5/downvotes-dont-exist-anymore-/c
What is there to have "balls" about? I'm calling out the press dinner happenings as extremely dodgy.
There have also been suspicious circumstances in other events, but I didn't say they were fake. I'm curious what everyone's sentiment is.
Grenade tossed. I'll read legitimate answers later and ignore Reddit-tier pearl crutching like yours and "fed posting" as they deserve.
Idk, Trump is being gay and retarded enough lately to make me believe it could be staged or a Mossad-esque inside-job , but leftists are also gay and retarded enough to try and fail at assassinating him three times. It’s the chicken and the egg thing.
They've tried at least 5 times
Mossad could not ask for a more ardent supporter. That angle doesn't make sense at this stage especially given Vance being next-in-command. The shooting ladder would have to continue to find someone as malleable.
Because nobody supports Trump anymore. That's why.
Zogbots support him, sure.
Don't be a nitpicker.
Zionists support him. Boomers support him. War hawks support him. H1Bs support him. The Republican establishment support him.
The only people who don't support him are the ones who never did, and the ones who fought to get him elected in the first place.
Zionists are zogbots. Boomers are zogbots. War hawks are zogbots.
Quite literally the only relevant people.
OP just pulls a pin, drops the grenade and walks out the room giggling. He's a really good troll or a really bad one.
You are a deranged retard.
The left talks about killing Trump and the right daily. They've done it for a decade now. And when nutjobs on the left actually act on it, people call it fake? That's wild.
You're wild. Nobody here touched upon the Butler shooting when it happened. The conspiracy theories about that were there from the very beginning.
Is it not really obvious?
Iran has become a total clusterfuck. Mid terms are coming up. 99% of the country cannonizes victims.
2+2=?
Probably not
America is a completely destroyed society full of stupid, insane, tweaked out freaks stewing in an antisocial culture. Naturally, chimp outs will occur.