I'm thinking right-wing talking heads want WW3 too. They seem quite upset over the lack of thousands of people being violently killed even if those people do hate us.
China is paying tolls and there are mines in the strait, so no they aren't getting free passage. Trump is closing the straight so they can sweep and remove mines, then they'll open it to everyone (including china) for free.
Trump is closing the straight so they can sweep and remove mines, then they'll open it to everyone (including china) for free.
Not a single US ship has DARED to come anywhere CLOSE to the strait before the ceasefire. The only way to "open" the strait is by invading and taking control over the ENTIRE Iranian coast line. And then you still have the problem of drones and missiles raining down on you and any ship within the strait.
Newsweek reported that China and India paid about $2 million per ship for passage.
The US hasn't entered because of the mines, not because they fear the IRG in rubber rafts. It's good by the IRG for now, but they will get invaded like Trump said in the last sentence of the tweet.
If this goes as Trump says China will be very happy. I don't understand the fear mongering, if we have to worry about China everytime we do anything then they already control us.
The only way to "open" the strait is by invading and taking control over the ENTIRE Iranian coast line.
That's completely false. Generals always try to fight the last war. That being said, this war is not over until the SoH is actually open, which it obviously is not.
Further, the lack of inbound tankers is only now starting to hit other regions. The spike in prices at the pump has so far been price gouging, the actual cost increase hasn't hit yet. After the shortage of supply hits, it still has to go through refining and distribution. This wouldn't be a quick fix even if the Strait magically returned to normal in an instant.
There's more to it than that. Iran's intent is for only Iran to use the Strait. This action by DJT is to level the playing field so that either nobody can use it (first) or everybody can.
That's the war starting today, nothing else matters and being in no rush to get to this part was a strategic decision. Everyone expected it on day 1. Reasons for waiting are only starting to come into view; we'll see if it was a good decision.
I think there aren't any mines, simply because Iran relies on the entire waterway, too. Most mines aren't confined to a precise location. The major exception lie dormant on the bottom and (theoretically) launch themselves up into ships, under predetermined conditions. The best time for these to have been laid would have been when DJT first sent aircraft carriers, over a month before starting the war. These are the most expensive type of mine, and hopefully what Iran has the fewest of. Sweeping this type is also the hardest.
Certainly the region needed to be swept. (Or still does?)
Trump is closing the straight so they can sweep and remove mines, then they'll open it to everyone (including china) for free.
The U.S. does not own any mine removal ships and equipment anymore. They were deemed “useless and outdated equipment,” and not needed anymore.Imagine that shit
China can't freely pass, the commercial traffic that's normally 138 ships per day has been single digits since the war started. Yes this is an act of war but stop believing raghead propaganda.
China doesn't "freely pass," as measured by total volume through the Strait. Normal is 138 ships per day, it's been single digits since the war started. That's not "passing freely," no matter what raghead propaganda says.
A fucking Youtube video with no sources and random videos of launches of unknown origin? Are you serious? Besides why the fuck would Iran use Chinese missiles? They build their own.
And even if that would be true how the fuck is that a black eye for China? There a dozens of videos of US interceptors misfiring and hitting buildings around them in Ukraine and Israel and the Gulf states.
I'm perfectly fine if he wants to fuck with China. If anything we haven't done ENOUGH fucking with China in the past twenty years. "The rest of the world" doesn't really matter in this case either. It barely impacts the US and the EU would be impacted purely because the Euros are retarded.
the cope would be that he is doing it so he can proclaim that he ended his blockade and thus won the war.
but that is me hoping he even is aware he lost and thus looking for a way to save face.
all my money is on the destruction of the jewsa-empire though, made quite some money so far.
Trump, a week ago: We'll open the straight, I mean Europe, uh, Nato will open the straight, I mean the straight is fine, don't worry about it. I'm going to negotiate with Iran to get it open next week.
Truml, this week: Good news, everyone! Negotiations went so well I'm closing the straight!
The press asked him about that. Here's Donny's response:
"That's right. It's not that Iran closed the Straight after Israhell broke the ceasefire. I, Donald Trump, will close the Straight after threatening to genocide the Iranians only 72 hours prior if they didn't open the Straight. I remain in total control of the situation, as I have always been in control. I'm the boss. I'm the greatest. Get your Trump hats now at TrumpStore.com. The hats are made in China, so we might not get any more for a while, so get yours now."
For all their MASSIVE VICTORY and DESTROYING 190% OF IRAN'S MILITARY, American ships couldn't get close to the Iranian coast before the ceasefire. So how are they going to blockade anything?
I'm not sure how they were going to blockade at all, but probably pursuing ships and pirating them? If it isn't complete bluff.
If you exit the strait, you're still near Iranian waters. Also, I question the extent to which Murica can "freely interdict" Chinese ships, or whether they want to interdict Indian ships.
I know close to nothing of the subject, but it is my understanding that you have to approach the ship. If a ship is heading from Iran to China, I think it's going to move east, and not south, so at the very least, anyone trying to pirate it (interdict is to pirate as kinetic action is to war, right) will have to approach the Iranian coast.
Your question was rhetorical, not posed to anyone. And the situation hasn't arisen yet. It'd be nice if it never does because this gets resolved before it comes to that, but somehow I doubt that will happen.
Is there a single nation, besides Israel, that would be worse off if DC were transformed into a radioactive crater? Not exactly proving the Iranians wrong in wanting a nuke.
Well, they literally say "it's too late to attack North Korea because they have a nuke". So yeah, they proved the Iranians wrong in not wanting a nuke (according to American intelligence, they only wanted a threshold capability to deter attacks, which clearly didn't work).
Follow the money and know your history/enemy. London should be leveled yesterday. There's others. But this is globalist elitist Satanist HQ. Has been for nearly a millennia.
This war is primarily about "leveling London," financially. If you want to understand what's happening in the world, follow the money; always follow the money. When DJT says "no one will be allowed to extort the world," he's not talking about Iran. London has controlled it for 100 years, that's what he's aiming at.
"If you try to shoot the King, you'd better not miss."
The funny thing is, this is the exact opposite of their strategy three weeks ago. Back then they said they were letting Iranian ships go through to keep the price of oil down. So clever. Now, apparently, screw the oil.
It's hilariously clear that Iran has been preparing for this situation for decades, while the US has absolutely zero strategy other than "shock and awe."
Acts of war are not illegal. Maritime law is mostly not understood. Make no mistake, a blockade certainly is an act of war. This applies to US and Iran equally.
Notice that Iran is hypocritically complaining about US' blockade; they think only they can do that, apparently. This is a small part of why DJT was in no rush to start this part, which is still a questionable strategic decision.
This is all so gay.
When's WW3 actually kick off?
Does Trump have any idea how his "legacy" is going to be completely destroyed having betrayed everything for Palantir and Israel?
what i would love is some eu-cunt to explain to me why the us-junta isn't my enemy. apologies to our american friends. i understand you disprove of your politicians as much as us eurofags.
yeah sure. but when i watch the us there is constantly new propaganda-styles.
in the eu there is simply nothing. you would think that the jewish oligarchy would be scrambling to out-jew each outher, yet there ios nothing.
either they are playing it completly save to have europe as a fallback or we are already so irrelevant that they wont even expand basic resources for propaganda.
i'm quite scared of either option.
Your native whites are not viewed as a potential threat by your traitor governments. Why propagandize people who are culturally suicidal and mostly unarmed?
You're a substantial step ahead of most, simply by recognizing that you don't understand this. You could learn. I could give you some good links to get started, but everything about the middle east is complicated and the process couldn't possibly be quick and easy.
Cliff notes version is nobody's in control, and this war is FAR bigger than just US vs Iran. Also, WWIII started many years ago, by any possible measure. It's still small in volume as these things go, fortunately.
I think this is the interview I watched about particularly Jared Kushners involvement in some of those funds. This guy seems to go a lot deeper than most on world economic issues behind the scenes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU2py056D9U
Right on time! Sunday before markets open tomorrow—more ranting and taco threats smh. If he/they could do all this, they would have long ago. I love my country, but this is fucking disgusting and embarrassing and dangerous directly ame indirectly later on from impacts.
But, So because his regime change, ever changing objectives, act of aggression toward them failed, everyone who didn’t start war and willing to pay Iran they're asking price to do business in the strait, is an act of aggression and an illegal act? But threatening them, bombing them, and trying to block the strait isn’t aggression or illegal?
Detaining ships that paid in international waters or “interdict” however the hell he meant to use that word there? “I’ve instructed our navy to see and ‘authoritative prohibition’ every vessel in international waters that has paid a toll to Iran.”
If he/they could do all this, they would have long ago.
Counterpoint: this was expected on day 1. Being in no rush to get to this part was a strategic decision. Whether that was a good idea remains to be seen.
The brilliant Newt Gingrich retweeted an article making that argument. Except that he didn't read it to the end, because it said "disclaimer: this is satire and doesn't represent the views of anyone with braincells".
"You let a mugger take your wallet? Instead of going after the mugger, we're going to hassle you. I figure, we hurt enough people the mugger already stole from, and the mugger will, I dunno, feel bad about it or something enough to stop mugging people. It's a perfect strategy!"
The strategists in the dark smoke-filled rooms I think must've switched to MJ, because they high as balls thinking this is viable.
I mean, this is actually the correct move strategically. They need to ensure Iran gets no toll fees so shutting down all traffic until they can open the straight does make sense. The problem is that 40% of the oil China receives comes through the straight. It'll be interesting to see how China reacts.
So now he wants to commit acts of war against China and the rest of the world? I guess Israel really does want to start WW3.
I'm thinking right-wing talking heads want WW3 too. They seem quite upset over the lack of thousands of people being violently killed even if those people do hate us.
You mean the Jew dick suckers? Of course they do.
if we gonna have ww3, i rather it starts inside our country where we get rid of all the pedos.
WWIII started, many years ago. You're defining Revolutionary War, which has been necessary for a much longer time.
There is another submission here on KiA2 about TPUSA doing a "Make Heaven Crowded" tour. What do they mean by that?
That's a valid definition of neocon.
Where did he mention China?
He's blockading the Gulf. China is one of the few nations that can freely pass the Gulf. China gets quite a bit of oil through the Gulf.
China is paying tolls and there are mines in the strait, so no they aren't getting free passage. Trump is closing the straight so they can sweep and remove mines, then they'll open it to everyone (including china) for free.
Says who?
Not a single US ship has DARED to come anywhere CLOSE to the strait before the ceasefire. The only way to "open" the strait is by invading and taking control over the ENTIRE Iranian coast line. And then you still have the problem of drones and missiles raining down on you and any ship within the strait.
Are you seriously drinking Trumps kool-aid?
Newsweek reported that China and India paid about $2 million per ship for passage.
The US hasn't entered because of the mines, not because they fear the IRG in rubber rafts. It's good by the IRG for now, but they will get invaded like Trump said in the last sentence of the tweet.
If this goes as Trump says China will be very happy. I don't understand the fear mongering, if we have to worry about China everytime we do anything then they already control us.
Of course. That's why the carrier groups were positioned at max range.
That's completely false. Generals always try to fight the last war. That being said, this war is not over until the SoH is actually open, which it obviously is not.
Further, the lack of inbound tankers is only now starting to hit other regions. The spike in prices at the pump has so far been price gouging, the actual cost increase hasn't hit yet. After the shortage of supply hits, it still has to go through refining and distribution. This wouldn't be a quick fix even if the Strait magically returned to normal in an instant.
Why do you MAGA clowns lie so much? Do you honestly believe that Trump fan fiction in your head? 🙄
They can't come to grips with the fact they've been played again.
You're silly
Says the goose! 😂
Nope, they are intending to divert any tanker or ship that paid the toll or had free passage.
Yup, that's been said.
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There's more to it than that. Iran's intent is for only Iran to use the Strait. This action by DJT is to level the playing field so that either nobody can use it (first) or everybody can.
That's the war starting today, nothing else matters and being in no rush to get to this part was a strategic decision. Everyone expected it on day 1. Reasons for waiting are only starting to come into view; we'll see if it was a good decision.
I think there aren't any mines, simply because Iran relies on the entire waterway, too. Most mines aren't confined to a precise location. The major exception lie dormant on the bottom and (theoretically) launch themselves up into ships, under predetermined conditions. The best time for these to have been laid would have been when DJT first sent aircraft carriers, over a month before starting the war. These are the most expensive type of mine, and hopefully what Iran has the fewest of. Sweeping this type is also the hardest.
Certainly the region needed to be swept. (Or still does?)
The U.S. does not own any mine removal ships and equipment anymore. They were deemed “useless and outdated equipment,” and not needed anymore.Imagine that shit
China can't freely pass, the commercial traffic that's normally 138 ships per day has been single digits since the war started. Yes this is an act of war but stop believing raghead propaganda.
China doesn't "freely pass," as measured by total volume through the Strait. Normal is 138 ships per day, it's been single digits since the war started. That's not "passing freely," no matter what raghead propaganda says.
When he announced we're going to engage in acts of piracy against any ship that paid a toll to Iran.
Aaaargh, lol.
This remains to be seen 🍿
unironically wanted to give west taiwan a black eye. too bad it took the jews to do it.
How exactly was China given a black eye?
Temu military equipment
A fucking Youtube video with no sources and random videos of launches of unknown origin? Are you serious? Besides why the fuck would Iran use Chinese missiles? They build their own.
And even if that would be true how the fuck is that a black eye for China? There a dozens of videos of US interceptors misfiring and hitting buildings around them in Ukraine and Israel and the Gulf states.
That's the known troll Haterjuiced / Romney2008, who has been trolling KIA communities since literally 2014.
Says the guy banned in most of this site.
He also roots for Iran.
Remember who Israel Epstein was, and his connections to the Chinese Communist Party.
Almost nobody understands what he was about. He didn't start FM or SRA, and it didn't end with his disappearance, either. (Death or otherwise)
Typical TaiwanInAction response
You comprehend nothing about this war. You could learn ...
I'm perfectly fine if he wants to fuck with China. If anything we haven't done ENOUGH fucking with China in the past twenty years. "The rest of the world" doesn't really matter in this case either. It barely impacts the US and the EU would be impacted purely because the Euros are retarded.
When attempting to open a vital waterway, blockade it instead so the enemy does not have to expend any resources doing it themselves. Don Tzu
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Don Tzu
the cope would be that he is doing it so he can proclaim that he ended his blockade and thus won the war. but that is me hoping he even is aware he lost and thus looking for a way to save face.
all my money is on the destruction of the jewsa-empire though, made quite some money so far.
Trump, a week ago: We'll open the straight, I mean Europe, uh, Nato will open the straight, I mean the straight is fine, don't worry about it. I'm going to negotiate with Iran to get it open next week.
Truml, this week: Good news, everyone! Negotiations went so well I'm closing the straight!
The press asked him about that. Here's Donny's response:
We are entering levels of clown world that I never could have imagined.
I just didn't properly weigh genocidal Israelis and Zionists when factoring them in, I guess.
When talking about Clown World, one must always remember the mad pierrots.
How does one blockade a blockade?
For all their MASSIVE VICTORY and DESTROYING 190% OF IRAN'S MILITARY, American ships couldn't get close to the Iranian coast before the ceasefire. So how are they going to blockade anything?
I'm not sure how they were going to blockade at all, but probably pursuing ships and pirating them? If it isn't complete bluff.
Ship owners could easily find a liberal judge in NYC and get awarded billions in financial compensation
Or maybe just a normal judge with sense?
Obviously American ships can freely interdict tankers once they pass the strait. They're kind of sitting outside the strait right now actually.
If you exit the strait, you're still near Iranian waters. Also, I question the extent to which Murica can "freely interdict" Chinese ships, or whether they want to interdict Indian ships.
Our fleet is parked there. The Iranians aren't doing anything about it.
As far as I know, they tried approaching the Iranian coast but were then fired upon, so now they're staying well clear of it.
You have no idea what's happening now.
Thank you for your input without substance, Israel Firster who followed me over from PDW.
You know you don't have to approach the coast to interdict ships, right?
I know close to nothing of the subject, but it is my understanding that you have to approach the ship. If a ship is heading from Iran to China, I think it's going to move east, and not south, so at the very least, anyone trying to pirate it (interdict is to pirate as kinetic action is to war, right) will have to approach the Iranian coast.
You may freely question.
The question was posed to someone with sense, not you.
Your question was rhetorical, not posed to anyone. And the situation hasn't arisen yet. It'd be nice if it never does because this gets resolved before it comes to that, but somehow I doubt that will happen.
Oh? I thought you were really gung ho on this (definitely not a) war?
Jew fatigue
Is there a single nation, besides Israel, that would be worse off if DC were transformed into a radioactive crater? Not exactly proving the Iranians wrong in wanting a nuke.
Well, they literally say "it's too late to attack North Korea because they have a nuke". So yeah, they proved the Iranians wrong in not wanting a nuke (according to American intelligence, they only wanted a threshold capability to deter attacks, which clearly didn't work).
Nuking Israel would produce similar results.
Nope. But don't you forget about those who own/operate DC across the pond, City of London. I dare say taking them out is more important.
lmao no
Follow the money and know your history/enemy. London should be leveled yesterday. There's others. But this is globalist elitist Satanist HQ. Has been for nearly a millennia.
This war is primarily about "leveling London," financially. If you want to understand what's happening in the world, follow the money; always follow the money. When DJT says "no one will be allowed to extort the world," he's not talking about Iran. London has controlled it for 100 years, that's what he's aiming at.
"If you try to shoot the King, you'd better not miss."
Davos is the priority, it just has to be at the right time.
Wanting.
The funny thing is, this is the exact opposite of their strategy three weeks ago. Back then they said they were letting Iranian ships go through to keep the price of oil down. So clever. Now, apparently, screw the oil.
It's hilariously clear that Iran has been preparing for this situation for decades, while the US has absolutely zero strategy other than "shock and awe."
Their strategy has certainly been shocking, and awe-full.
US strategy completely bypassed Iran's strategy, which would have been brilliant and effective otherwise.
Say you don't understand anything about this situation at all, without having to use those words.
Weren't these clowns arguing 5 minutes ago that restricting passage in the Strait of Hormuz was illegal, an act of war?
"Shut up, commie fag. It's different when we do it! USA! USA! USA!"
Acts of war are not illegal. Maritime law is mostly not understood. Make no mistake, a blockade certainly is an act of war. This applies to US and Iran equally.
Notice that Iran is hypocritically complaining about US' blockade; they think only they can do that, apparently. This is a small part of why DJT was in no rush to start this part, which is still a questionable strategic decision.
This is such a great idea that they didn't do it immediately when Iran started doing its thing.
This is all so gay. When's WW3 actually kick off? Does Trump have any idea how his "legacy" is going to be completely destroyed having betrayed everything for Palantir and Israel?
Wait until you hear about his crypto scams.
He’s the cheapest most grifter “billionaire” in america
History books will give him the Goodest Goy Award like Winston Churchill.
He doesn't care. Trump is a follower of jew-worship AKA chabad and enjoys getting to push around pieces on the chessboard at the jews' behest.
Lol, so he wants to blockade the strait to counter iran's blockade? This is purely retarded.
Yeah, right. This is just an excuse to get more ships in position to start the war again.
what i would love is some eu-cunt to explain to me why the us-junta isn't my enemy. apologies to our american friends. i understand you disprove of your politicians as much as us eurofags.
All jew run govts are everyone's enemy.
yeah sure. but when i watch the us there is constantly new propaganda-styles. in the eu there is simply nothing. you would think that the jewish oligarchy would be scrambling to out-jew each outher, yet there ios nothing. either they are playing it completly save to have europe as a fallback or we are already so irrelevant that they wont even expand basic resources for propaganda. i'm quite scared of either option.
Your native whites are not viewed as a potential threat by your traitor governments. Why propagandize people who are culturally suicidal and mostly unarmed?
Is he trying to piss off the entire planet on purpose? Cause that's what it seems like from where I'm sitting.
"Things are not always as they appear."
You're a substantial step ahead of most, simply by recognizing that you don't understand this. You could learn. I could give you some good links to get started, but everything about the middle east is complicated and the process couldn't possibly be quick and easy.
Cliff notes version is nobody's in control, and this war is FAR bigger than just US vs Iran. Also, WWIII started many years ago, by any possible measure. It's still small in volume as these things go, fortunately.
I didn't want to get into the weeds. The Sovereign Nation Fund, Blackrock, Rockbridge, China, etc. There are a lot of players here.
SNF? Nothing's coming up on that
https://youtube.com/shorts/xFLC5gce0BU?si=3k3O3Zle7-f3L7Lo
Sovereign wealth fund, thanks.
I think this is the interview I watched about particularly Jared Kushners involvement in some of those funds. This guy seems to go a lot deeper than most on world economic issues behind the scenes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU2py056D9U
Jew jew cum literally exposing himself in the very tweet he's making
Right on time! Sunday before markets open tomorrow—more ranting and taco threats smh. If he/they could do all this, they would have long ago. I love my country, but this is fucking disgusting and embarrassing and dangerous directly ame indirectly later on from impacts.
But, So because his regime change, ever changing objectives, act of aggression toward them failed, everyone who didn’t start war and willing to pay Iran they're asking price to do business in the strait, is an act of aggression and an illegal act? But threatening them, bombing them, and trying to block the strait isn’t aggression or illegal? Detaining ships that paid in international waters or “interdict” however the hell he meant to use that word there? “I’ve instructed our navy to see and ‘authoritative prohibition’ every vessel in international waters that has paid a toll to Iran.”
Counterpoint: this was expected on day 1. Being in no rush to get to this part was a strategic decision. Whether that was a good idea remains to be seen.
Russia/India/Pakistan/North Korea/China/UK/France please nuke a canal through Saudi Arabia and Oman.
The brilliant Newt Gingrich retweeted an article making that argument. Except that he didn't read it to the end, because it said "disclaimer: this is satire and doesn't represent the views of anyone with braincells".
Normal volume through the Strait: 20MM bbl / day.
Current volume: 7.5 or less.
You're talking about a 3 year project, assuming unlimited resources.
"You let a mugger take your wallet? Instead of going after the mugger, we're going to hassle you. I figure, we hurt enough people the mugger already stole from, and the mugger will, I dunno, feel bad about it or something enough to stop mugging people. It's a perfect strategy!"
The strategists in the dark smoke-filled rooms I think must've switched to MJ, because they high as balls thinking this is viable.
Well why not. There's still a single digit percentage of Americans still trusting the plan, let's see if we can get it below 5%.
Zero Seats could be a reality in America by November.
I mean, this is actually the correct move strategically. They need to ensure Iran gets no toll fees so shutting down all traffic until they can open the straight does make sense. The problem is that 40% of the oil China receives comes through the straight. It'll be interesting to see how China reacts.
(You wrote the only worthwhile comment in the thread)
Fucking wall of text.
Reading is hrd.
This is fucking garbage. Fuck Trump and fuck MAGA bullshit