In January 2021, Nova Scotia will become the first place in Canada to have “deemed consent” for organ donation. Under this law, it will be assumed that people who don’t document their wishes about organ donation have consented to becoming organ donors. This is sometimes called an “opt-out” system, and is used in some European countries.
This is a significant departure from the usual practices around consent in health care in Canada. As a clinical ethicist with research interests in how we respond to inequity, I have concerns about whether potential negative effects on respect for personal choice can be justified.
The best was a article saying how they are going to have a special organ donation surgeons staffed in every operating room in nova scotia.
Cant get a family doctor or medical help but good to know they could take my organs if needed.
God damn, somehow ive already known like 3 people who were declared brain dead, 2 im sure had their organs donated. I would not want to go into a coma into this place. It used to be we gave you weeks, months or even years to see if you woke up.
Now you get about 1-2 days before they pull the plug.
But what if the education system has made all the 6 year olds retarded? The USA would be emptied if you went to certain "urban" schools to test the names.
Yep, made sure i was opted out when they made it default to opt in.
Wont give me help with being poisoned at work, or the parathyroid now, why the fuck would I ever give someone a organ? When my kidneys fail, im not even looking at a organ transfer. I dont want someone elses body parts inside of me. Id rather just die. More power to those who want to live, but im to old and to bitter at this point to want to go on.
The solution, we believe, is to broaden the definition of brain death to include irreversibly comatose patients on life support.
Brain dead patients are the only ones who truly meet that definition you slimy fucks.
Anyone with enough brain function left to have basic reflexes and pain responses has a, typically incredibly small, chance of regaining consciousness. We don't have enough detailed, high resolution understanding of brain function to narrow down on the exact type of damage that leaves the potential to adapt around the damage and regain sapience, we just have the incredibly rare examples of it happening. Except to brain dead people.
What they really want is to extend the pool of organ donors to "very probably irreversibly comatose, tiny chance they're just taking a very long nap and will wake up retarded". Which in a world of ever fewer resources may well be a valid proposal for society wide net benefit. But stay the fuck away from ethics conversations if you're going to just lie to people about what you actually know is definitely irreversible to get what you want.
Theres also rare examples of locked in syndrome where people in a coma for a long time were floating in and out of consciousness and can accurately report things the staff were doing, and the only way we know this is because they happened to wake up.
Reading this article I found out it's standard procedure to take organs from people that are still alive, either with their heart still working or their brain still working. These guys want to take it even further and take organs from people with both still working so long as the doctor claims they won't recover. Just trust the doctor who probably has a vested interest in declaring them dead, guys!
They can’t wait for the heart to stop. Because if they do the organs immediately begin to die.
Also they sell the organs. There is a cost for the procedure from harvest to transplant. they don’t just give the organs to the recipient, they bill for it.
they're fucking with the weather by spraying literal tons of chemicals into the atmosphere. they created pink slime mildew and released it. covid was a forced death march for the obedient.
i'm sure organ donations aren't rare. they're just putting the message out there so doctors secretly push past the limit when they know they shouldn't. ya' know. because the greater good. that's the way it works.
stay away from institutions. learn to take care of yourself. some scary shit is ahead. the more you can do for yourself the further you can make it in fighting these corrupt fucks.
Half of the organs probably go to old people desperate to cling to just one more year. Seriously, the shit they will do and the life they will live just to claim still being alive just blows my mind.
I took off the list in 2022. Don’t trust the system in the slightest and it’s not about even scraping me thru on a machine while I’m definitely brain dead. I don’t want to support anonymous recipients if I’m honest. What’s the chance they don’t just hate everything about me? I’d give a kidney or whatever else is a you can lose one organ of to an extremely short list of people younger than me who have earned that consideration with me personally. Otherwise, no thanks.
Every American should support our indian friends by giving them live demolition charges. Just sew it right in and send them on their way. Trust me, I'm a doctor. This lifehack will break the scarcity issue of donor organs! Best of all, there's no complications, no organ rejection issues, no need for expensive therapeutic drugs!
Ask them what caste they are and if they would accept organs from a lower one.
India has one of the lowest organ donation rates in the world. That's why they want American ones.
Im surprised they didnt mention nova scotia.
Just reap the organs of the less informed.
Nova scotia became the first place in north america to become "opt out" organ donation in north america (derp).
https://www.dal.ca/news/2021/01/22/opt-out-organ-donation--is-nova-scotia-s--deemed-consent--law-et.html
The best was a article saying how they are going to have a special organ donation surgeons staffed in every operating room in nova scotia.
Cant get a family doctor or medical help but good to know they could take my organs if needed.
God damn, somehow ive already known like 3 people who were declared brain dead, 2 im sure had their organs donated. I would not want to go into a coma into this place. It used to be we gave you weeks, months or even years to see if you woke up.
Now you get about 1-2 days before they pull the plug.
New rule. If a six year old can't pronounce your name you get flagged for potential deportation.
I am German and have a very German last name, but grew up in America. So, guess we're getting deported.
But what if the education system has made all the 6 year olds retarded? The USA would be emptied if you went to certain "urban" schools to test the names.
No shortage of homeschooled children. And besides, I said potential for a reason. We still need the Czech descendants and such.
Took myself off the donor list after they started denying life-saving transplants to purebloods out of contempt, leading to callous deaths.
Doesn't really matter though. They'll still try to talk your family into it if you're incapacitated.
Important that your family knows your wishes & remains firm when the grave robbers come.
Me too brother, they aren't getting my pure organs. It's for their safety, just imagine how dangerous my organs might be to grandma.
Yep, made sure i was opted out when they made it default to opt in.
Wont give me help with being poisoned at work, or the parathyroid now, why the fuck would I ever give someone a organ? When my kidneys fail, im not even looking at a organ transfer. I dont want someone elses body parts inside of me. Id rather just die. More power to those who want to live, but im to old and to bitter at this point to want to go on.
Yep! I'm in healthcare (" health care") and I encourage everyone to avoid us like the plague.
I did the same thing for the same reason.
People laughing at the jeet but he is just saying what we all know...they want to kill you and take your organs.
"being indian"
wait no i don't think those are viable organs
Papa Nurgle would approve though.
Maybe up the standards of donation so they're not going to fat pieces of shit, junkies or niggers and there would be more donors.
Even then, putting donor on your ID is just asking for the hospital to let you die. Who in their right mind would ask for that?
But then how can we make money while cutting people up for "research"?
Brain dead patients are the only ones who truly meet that definition you slimy fucks.
Anyone with enough brain function left to have basic reflexes and pain responses has a, typically incredibly small, chance of regaining consciousness. We don't have enough detailed, high resolution understanding of brain function to narrow down on the exact type of damage that leaves the potential to adapt around the damage and regain sapience, we just have the incredibly rare examples of it happening. Except to brain dead people.
What they really want is to extend the pool of organ donors to "very probably irreversibly comatose, tiny chance they're just taking a very long nap and will wake up retarded". Which in a world of ever fewer resources may well be a valid proposal for society wide net benefit. But stay the fuck away from ethics conversations if you're going to just lie to people about what you actually know is definitely irreversible to get what you want.
Theres also rare examples of locked in syndrome where people in a coma for a long time were floating in and out of consciousness and can accurately report things the staff were doing, and the only way we know this is because they happened to wake up.
Only an AI or a communist would suggest this solution.
Problem: We can't harvest enough organs from dead people.
Solution: Living people have plenty of organs. Take those!
On another side note, kinda strange how there is this huge need for organ donation.
Nobody is asking, why is everyones organs failing o_O.
Its just harvesting from poors and giving them to less poors to see what happens. Then when something really works they sell it to rich people.
Jewish problem requires Chinese solution
Reading this article I found out it's standard procedure to take organs from people that are still alive, either with their heart still working or their brain still working. These guys want to take it even further and take organs from people with both still working so long as the doctor claims they won't recover. Just trust the doctor who probably has a vested interest in declaring them dead, guys!
Well yeah, you cant transplant a dead organ. Once the tissues are oxygen starved for long enough, it wont come back.
Brain dead is a term thats ambiguous as hell, and was invented around the time organ donation became a thing. It was all intentional.
There is a good video of a doctor from ohio who talked about this before.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAdLb1p-2qg
Religious channel of all things lmao, looks like most of his other videos online have been deleted though.
Good info, thanks fren
No such thing as brain death.
Also note that all organs come from live donors.
They can’t wait for the heart to stop. Because if they do the organs immediately begin to die.
Also they sell the organs. There is a cost for the procedure from harvest to transplant. they don’t just give the organs to the recipient, they bill for it.
Organ merchants.
they're fucking with the weather by spraying literal tons of chemicals into the atmosphere. they created pink slime mildew and released it. covid was a forced death march for the obedient.
i'm sure organ donations aren't rare. they're just putting the message out there so doctors secretly push past the limit when they know they shouldn't. ya' know. because the greater good. that's the way it works.
stay away from institutions. learn to take care of yourself. some scary shit is ahead. the more you can do for yourself the further you can make it in fighting these corrupt fucks.
Half of the organs probably go to old people desperate to cling to just one more year. Seriously, the shit they will do and the life they will live just to claim still being alive just blows my mind.
I took off the list in 2022. Don’t trust the system in the slightest and it’s not about even scraping me thru on a machine while I’m definitely brain dead. I don’t want to support anonymous recipients if I’m honest. What’s the chance they don’t just hate everything about me? I’d give a kidney or whatever else is a you can lose one organ of to an extremely short list of people younger than me who have earned that consideration with me personally. Otherwise, no thanks.
Every American should support our indian friends by giving them live demolition charges. Just sew it right in and send them on their way. Trust me, I'm a doctor. This lifehack will break the scarcity issue of donor organs! Best of all, there's no complications, no organ rejection issues, no need for expensive therapeutic drugs!
Heh heh.
Star Wars names want to steal your organs now
Of course its some freakish jeet doctor.
Canada has the solution for that! MAiD!
"That's a nasty cough you have there, White Male over 40. Have you considered suicide?" - Canadian Doktors
If the definition of brain death can be expanded, then it's a classification and not a medical state.