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I'll still let this shit play out...but I absolutely condemn this evil. Hopefully we can contain this "police action" to taking out their nuclear sites (which were in compliance according to all official statements), but this is still ABSOLUTELY FUCKING EVIL.
And, yes, I feel betrayed.
Trump fucked up. I'm saying that unrevivably. Not the first time. He's fucked up multiple times, and I've still supported him.
But this is a FUCKING BIG ONE. I'll have to wait an see the fallout (hopefully not literally,) but, holy shit, I can't sugar coat this shit.
This was evil.
He had all the information. He, according to many reports, delayed initial strikes. Iran was not week away from The Bomb. But, even if they were, we could have waited a bit more before pulling the trigger.
Unequivocally, fuck this. Not what I voted for.
MASSIVE blunder, no matter how it turns out.
Israel and AIPAC won. Teddy was right about dual citizens years ago, no one listened.
Hopefully not. But I'm absolutely fucking livid, regardless.
EVERYONE sane was right about dual citizens. WHY THE FUCK DO WE ALLOW THIS BULLSHIT?
We have Israelis, Mexicans, Somalis, and all manner of other retards in our GOVERNMENT, allegedly representing Americans.
I'm damn near done, guys.
Because money talks, and "dual citizens" own the banks and have decided that the US is just an economic zone.
I had a feeling when Trump won in 2024, and I feel that feeling is confirmed.
Israel always wins.
whatever candidate is running next time, I'm putting a significant of money down on the candidate that Israel clearly chose.
I might say that the growing hatred of Israel among the left and normies could be seen as a silver lining in this situation, but that might not even be so.
One day for no reason at all is absolutely going to happen again. Their hubris will ensure it.
The question is will it happen before White people are extinct
A sovereign nation having nukes is not my problem. Are we now making the stance that america will militarily enforce nuclear disarmament for the entire world?
As long as Israel is next on the list, I'm in.
You weren’t betrayed
You refused to see it for what it was from the get go
Good goy, Keep at it.
I was absolutely betrayed.
I went in knowing I might be betrayed, but that doesn't make it less of a betrayal.
They could have had nukes in 2021 (60% enrichment) based on the claims Israel made this week. Why didn’t they you disingenuous faggot? They COULD have had nukes for 4 years but didn’t, so where’s your evidence?
I like how you bots are pretending to not remember how many times their nuclear facilities have been blown up before, subject to cyberattacks, and that Israel takes out their nuclear scientists semi-regularly. Remember Stuxnet?
In fact, at the end of 2020, the head nuclear scientist in charge of the entire program was killed by a remote-controlled self-destructing machine gun in the back of a truck. Wow, that almost corresponds to your 2021 timeline.
So did you "conveniently" forget about all that? Is it because you're retarded? Only someone retarded could forget that. Are you retarded?
There is no excuse for not remembering these things, except that you're either an Iranian propagandist, or you're stupider than a bag of hammered shit. No excuse.
So after they killed him Iran reached 60% enriched uranium within 4 months and that’s a sign of…. How effective all those assassinations were? And I’m the retarded one? Fascinating…
I’m assuming you’re drunk, because that’s the only sane reason you could have argued against yourself so heavily and then believed it was a good thing.
Not casus belli. Also, I wonder why they hate us. Huh.
Even if true, you don't get to attack someone for something they might do. Iran was not weeks away from a nuclear device, much less an ICBM to deliver it our shores.
Eh. No war with Iran. No war with North Korea, either. Doesn't mean I love them, just means that fucking evil bullshit is completely unnecessary.
I never said that. But he's said he doesn't believe his own intel reports. Which leads me to question whose intel reports he is reading.
Did you ever stop and wonder why Iran has zero allies? Literally nobody likes them.
Did you ever stop and wonder how it is that Israel has so thoroughly infiltrated their government that they knew the location of every single top official and Iran has had to keep moving the supreme goatfucker?
Spycraft is about getting native sympathizers to join your cause, and it suggests that a lot of Iranians are ready to see the Mullahs pack their shit and leave, if they have that many people working for them.
You're right, we should overthrow those fucking savages.
We'll be greeted as liberators.
Not my sandbox, not my war. Kindly remove your hand from my wallet.
First: Your prophet is a swine-raping child-molesting heretic.
Second: there doesn't exist a single human you can find on the entire planet who gives even the slightest iota of a shit about your retarded, fuck-ignorant GED-level opinions on anything.
You didn't even fucking remember Stuxnet blowing up their entire centrifuging process, what value are the opinions of someone that profoundly ignorant?
Third: We dropped like 12 bombs and you're back to robotically bleep-blooping out dumbass dogshit NPC-grade talking points "MUH VIETNAM MUH TALIBAN".
Don't talk about Jesus that way, motherfucker.
I don't really feel like engaging with more heathens tonight, thank you.
Are you back to using AI comments or are you just drunk?
Iran is no different from any other two-bit shithole over there. "The big one" lmao you act like he bombed Beijing. Was Libya "the big one"? Was Syria "the big one"?
I love how "I hate Israel" literally morphed into "I absolutely love Iran and Muslims are our friends".
Muslims are subhuman shits too. And Iran has run its mouth for so long it's boring listening to them, I genuinely don't give a shit if they finally get popped in the mouth. Iran has categorically no friends because nobody in the world can stand them. The entire Arab world can't stand them. Putin already hung up the phone.
And you all act like Iran hasn't been doing vile shit against Americans for decades.
Thanks for that photo, I'm gonna be posting that every fucking where.
Trump hates the Bush family, and that photo will make him raaaaage.
Too bad taking it up the ass from Israel doesn't make him rage.
The only way this doesn't result in massive blowback is if Iran exercises massive restraint and does not strike back in any meaningful way at the US, which seems unlikely. Kind of ironic, since this bullshit is predicated on the notion that Iran is so unrestrained that it cannot be trusted with nukes. Orange man is so dangerously close to pissing away the coalition he's built.
He’s already lost a good chunk, this is irreversible damage and shows he’s completely in Israel’s pocket.
Did you never stop and consider that Iran doesn't have the capability to do shit? What happened to their "the world will remember tonight for centuries"?
Where are you people getting this idea that Iran is a serious country? Israel has been flying sorties over their country for over a week straight and hasn't lost a single plane.
Iran is a retard-tier nation.
that's a really good point. please remember it when Iranian proxies (Mossad) carry out terrorist attacks on American soil.
🚩 Marked safe from "Dying For Israel As KIA2 Hysterically Promised"
Remember that the Zionist influence isn't limited to military and intelligence action. There are no discrete centers of power independent of those. If they are deciding what our military does, they are responsible for everything else - trans kids, George Floyd riots, mass immigration, etc. All of that bad shit is because of them.
So, who here is dodging the draft? Uncle Bibi is calling, needs boots on the ground now, maybe some people will die by 2045, the usual amount of occupation time for the US
Yes, because Bush invading Iraq over his daddy not killing hussein is in any way like Trump hitting 3 nuke sites to stop Iran from having a nuclear weapon.
You nailed it.
What nukes you stupid cunt? Iran has been at 60% enrichment for years now, and just this week Rubio claimed 60% is weapons grade uranium. Fun fact, the fat boy was 80%, the average nuke today is 90+%. Also why did they target Iraq? Was it from bad intel from… Israel saying Iraq was making nukes? You must be an evangelical boomertard, read John 14:6 and repent for worshipping false idols.
I'm not sorry your goat raping friends got killed. You'll have to apologize to mohommad as he fucks your wife tonight though.
So you have no argument other than bomb everybody? Man, boomer brain is hilarious.
Say it! "Islam is the religion of peace!" Say it!
Read John 14:6 and repent Satanist
There's no convincing you guys of anything, since you only have 1 braincell combined, so I'll settle for just calling you cucks and retards.
Convincing requires an argument, actually make one you pathetic cunt, or are you a retarded liberal who thinks they can just manifest reality?
It first requires you fags to not constantly seethe about the jews 24/7, and that'll never happen. They live rent free in your heads.
Was I seething about the Jews or about Israel fucking us over? Who gave us bad intel repeatedly on Iran and Iraq? Where’s the nukes?
I do have to wonder how many of these people are Euro's seething at the fact that they are continuing to be left in the dust (considering this happened after their little "diplomatic mission" failed).
I have already seen some of them complaining about how this means there will now be another wave of "refugees" flooding their countries, to which my only question is: "Why is it our fault that your governments are braindead retards?"
Europe is way closer to Iran than we are and isn't wasting as much of their own military on this. It would make more sense for Europeans to support the strike.
Accusing people of being Europeans is just a clumsy attempt at "UNO reverse" for being called Jews. It will never be as otherizing.
Or maybe it's because Europe has become a continent of pussies embarrassed about their own past and unwilling to actually do the things they should. Dont worry, we will be over here putting belt to ass, like you used to do and forgot how. Which is why the future belongs to us and not you.
America will continue importing niggers will fighting Jewish wars until it collapses. I don't want that to happen to my country. That's fine with you though. You're Jewish.
Unfortunately not, I regret that I dont have any ancestors of that gifted people. It would be Polish and Prussian on one side of my family, and Scots-Irish on the other.
This is the Israeli and elitist mindset about gentile nations. You deserve to be invaded if you let it happen you stupid cows.
Last I checked, we are dealing with our invasion. I am sorry you cant relate. Once again, why are your governments retarded and have been for decades now?
Half are eurotrash, half are commies, and half are US shortbus members.
Yup, that's about on par for the MIGA cucks.
50% eurotrash, 50% us, and of that 100% half are commies.
But I can't expect you guys to have reading comprehension, unless it's to cry about your goat rapist friends
Iran has almost had a nuclear weapon in two weeks for fucking decades. Who the fuck cares.
And, I PRAY it stops at the current bombings - which are already evil - and doesn't escalate further.
But we all know this is pushing shit down the road. MAYBE it ends here. Again, I HOPE it does. But there's the phrase "Fuck Around and Find Out" for a reason, and it's not unilateral.
USA absolutely Fucked Around. Hopefully we don't Find Out. Because, if we do...yeah. It's boots on the ground. It's sand wars. It's forever wars.
"Trump just bombed nuclear sites!" HOPEFULLY it ends there. But that's not a forgone conclusion. If Iran retaliates even slightly against...Israel fucking bombing them preemptively...yeah, the US is getting further involved.
You're a fucking psychopath, and I'm done with you.
If Iran's nuclear program was just for innocent peaceful things, why would they literally be willing to all die to defend it?
Are they facing some kind of energy crisis that they "need" this nuclear power for? They have plenty of oil, so, no.
Why did they spend hundreds of millions to build their peaceful program under mountains?
How is that nobody else in the world has this problem lmao.
IS. IRAN'S. "NUCLEAR PROGRAM." READY. TO. HURT. AMERICA. IN. TWO. WEEKS?
If not, don't care. If not, blatant propaganda to lie us into another war. Are you convinced they have the bomb, or could in a fortnight?
Also, you clearly don't understand liberty.
If some foreign power said your country had to give up your infrastructure and, yes, your potential future arms - defensive or offensive - you'd just sit and take it?
Gotta say, cuck energy.
To be clear, I'm no fan of Iran. But I get why they'd take the stance they did.
Why do you "need" a gun, silly American? Why do you "need" a gas stove? Why do you "need" gas car? Prove your "need" to me, before I allow you to exercise your rights.
To make it harder for Israel to keep engaging in terrorism against them.
*cough cough*...Iraq, Libya, Syria, Sudan, Lebanon, Somalia.
I think we already sodomized those guys to death. But go off.
When you're a dogshit-tier nation of worthless fuckwads that can't even shoot down a single Israeli plane? You get on your knees and lick the shit caked in the boots of whoever threatens to stomp on you.
That's how power works. The weak exist to serve the strong. Iran is pathetic, the either obey their betters like the obedient little pissants they are, or they get put down like rabid dogs.
Guess what, this is also exactly how Muslims believe power works too.
Libertarians are Marxists and belong in gas chambers. Muslims don't deserve liberty, they deserve to be rounded up and shot in mass graves, every copy of the Quran burned, everyone who has it memorized hunted down and nailed to a cross to die, and everyone who posted anything sympathetic to muslims have their entire family lined up and watch them get executed before being set aflame.
Is that clear enough to you on how I feel about the disgusting filth that infect the planet under that bullshit belief?
"Liberty", lmao like Muslims believe in liberty. You fucking Muslim-worshipping cock-gobbling fag.
And you're still a whiny little faggot, and always will be.
Sack up and do something, or fuck off somewhere else.
What should I do?
Literally anything, besides cucking yourself
Celebrating israwl’s victory over MAGA, and you call him a cuck lol
I'm not sorry your goat molesting friends got killed.
I think it's too late to talk kia2 out of it's retardation.
Cool, so you're leaving, then?
Oh..wait.
You have more fucking Evil to peddle.
Very much so, unfortunately. It's really incredible to watch first hand how the brainrot set in when suddenly for no reason there was an increase in seething about the jews daily.
Yeah. It's all about the JEWS.
I've said for decades I'm against unnecessary US interventionism.
Remember, boys, if you don't want to go and die in the Middle East for Democracy, you're an antisemite.
Miss me with that.
Weird how you jumped to that conclusion, despite not being mentioned and my comment being about the board in general...
Meanwhile, YOU, in the post I was RESPONDING to....
Absolutely fuck right off, you disingenuous faggot.
I was directly responding to what you said, and you went with the limp-wristined 'wow, why are you bring the Jews into this" nonsense...when YOU DID THAT.
Retard.
https://archive.is/u42ZQ#selection-1545.134-1545.179
No, as usual, you don't understand. You replied as if I was calling you out for seething about the jews.
But you know, you do you. You'll continue to seethe impotently.
No, no. What did I get wrong?
What "conclusion did I jump to?"
I'm listening.
When's your appointment at MEPS to enlist and go on deployment?
He's already on active duty in the IDF.
whatever happened to trust but verify? Just recently iran just refused to negotiate and doubled down the threats. Well fine then let them suffer the consequence.
god forbid we project power against hostiles.
Israel has refused IAEA inspections for decades and won’t sign the NPT. They also threaten global destruction with nukes if they are ever invaded. Are you saying we need to bomb Israel?
Israel also got their nuke material by stealing it from the US.
The only hostiles I recognize are Israel and it's allies in the US government. No one else even comes close.
Iran was negotiating with another round scheduled when Israel and the US attacked them and even killed one of their negotiators. Why would they bother continuing? Of course, that part will be omitted in Jewish talking points going further.
But we weren't involved in that attack. till now, and that's only after they refused to negotiate.
Even Israeli media says we were.
I just want to say I'm glad you are participating in the discussion instead of bemoaning the forum for being nothing but off-topic doomer anti-jew posts. We need a variety of opinions here. Don't worry about votes.
They had 60 days to negotiate. The bombing started on day 61.
What kind of faggot cuck are you that you think an inferior nation of inbred subhumans deserves to string anyone along? Are you that meek and pathetic in real life?
You seem confused. We didn't bomb Israel.
"Islam is the religion of peace!"
Say the line!
Interesting how those 'inbred subhumans' in israel somehow control the world full of superior people.
Strange ideology.
Jew seething is literally baked into the DNA of KIA2 existing. It was already a problem back when Antonio first founded it on reddit, because he and I literally discussed "what to do about it" in our gay little KIA1 summit.
When the .win site launched we had daily spergfests with DrJester attacking anyone who said anything even remotely about Jews.
Its literally always been here, and all that has changed is that a few more obvious idiots spam about it every day.
I have a solution. A final one, even.
Ban the people seething about the jews constantly, they can seethe on conpro, the rest of us can go back to not having to put up with it and we don't have to mention the jews ever again here.
Or you can get over it and go back to KIA2 on reddit, or even KIA1 where the topics are much more controlled and limited if the consequences of mostly free discussion upset you so much.
They don't shit the place up anymore than your low effort constant complaints about them in every thread do. At least they can be funny some times, whether its intentional or not.
Or we could permaban them, and have a board to actually discuss things instead of constant jew seething that doesn't add anything.
But you know, whatever. You agree with them, so you'll take their side on it.
Those boards already exist, I just listed them, on top of literally 98% of the rest of the internet. Why do you even want to be here if that is one of the most defining features of this place?
Most of the top posts raging against this are literally just stopping short of saying "Islam is the religion of peace". There's no reason to trust Iran with a nuke unless you actually believed that.
This takes away Israel's entire pretense for war, and you're blackpilling?
Edit: This was supposed to be a reply to u/Kienan's comment.
Devil's advocate (lol): Trump has, both in the prior term and this one with the Houthis, killed many groups of people working against American interests. Almost every president has. Assuming it was just taking out nuclear sites and not indiscriminate bombing of cities, what makes this time different?
MAGA is a big tent with this issue having become a massive chasm in the middle. The people on the other side feel just as strongly about it as you do. If he did what you want he would be betraying them. Both sides are his "base", why should he listen to us over them?
I'll admit most of the pro-war types are elite donors, neocon influencers, and Israel First evangelicals, but if you talk to people there are plenty of American Joes who just want to grill AND bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran.🎵
Would waiting have made it less evil?
I didn't want us joining Israel's campaign. I personally don't care if Iran gets the bomb and don't think they would actually be a danger to us. Now you can call the other side zionist boomers brainwashed by Faux News or whatever, but A MEGATON of Trump voters do believe that and think it's important for us to stop any "rogue state" from getting nukes no matter the cost. You may not like it but from a Realpolitik perspective I'm not sure he's wrong. Is it even going back on his campaign promises? He did say he would not to get us involved in new wars, but he never said he would give up America's position as the supreme world military power. He's always been on the "unipolar world" side.
Total fantasy. I've never met a single normie that has given a shit about the middle east after the bush era 9/11 propaganda wore off. I have overheard the phrase "both sides are terrorists" when some news channel is on in a public space multiple times.
If you're gonna quote me, at least tag me. (And, yeah, I'm going to assume an honest mistake here, no hate.)
I mean. A bunch of the past presidents are evil fucking bastards. Even tonight, I still like Trump more than them.
But what makes it different? I don't know...for me, avoidability. We didn't have to do this. Nothing has changed, recently. You can like Iran, you can hate Iran. They didn't do anything to us. This started because Israel bombed them.
Now, maybe I'm being unreasonable here, I allow that. I'm emotional at the moment, I think this is Evil and absolutely sucks. There's plenty I'm willing to see 'both sides' on. I'll talk to leftists. I'll talk to right-wingers I disagree with. But I view this as an extremely unnecessary aggressive action, and I think I'm completely in the right on this. I don't usually try to put myself in that position, because I don't think it usually fits, but here I'm willing to do so. If others have arguments, I'm willing to listen, but until convinced otherwise...I'm fucking right on this.
I don't have many hills to die on, but this is one. Again, for better or worse. Feel free (anyone) to counter me on this. That's not an attack against you, Agenda47, it really is an open letter. If I'm wrong, lay it out. I'm just putting down my thoughts.
But there is a Truth. If I am indeed correct on this, he should side with me, or with the force I'm sided with. Some Trump supporters want another Middle East war...is Trump really betraying anyone if he doesn't give it to them?!
Complicated question, and I do agree he ran, to some extent, on both sides. He did say Islamic terror was a threat, he did say Iran couldn't have The Bomb. He also said no more forever wars, and that the retards who previously engaged in such thing should pick up the fucking phone.
Am I completely opposed to bombing Iran. Honestly - and I always am - almost. But not entirely. I can see a reason to bomb Iran. But, again, nothing has really changed, aside from Israel's sneak attack. We should have absolutely exhausted all other options first. Then bomb Iran, if it's necessary.
Yeah I don't know what happened there but that was indeed meant to be under your comment. Glad you saw the reply. I can't really rebut anything you said on a personal and moral level. I was only speaking to any possible political ramifications and whether this is a particularly notable betrayal of MAGA. Honestly this is pretty much par for the course for the American Imperium. I'm disappointed, but I hope Commandant Trumo has an exit plan and Iran doesn't retaliate too hard. Their leadership seems kind of retarded (or party to the zionist agenda) so I'm not optimistic.
Trump should have died.
Retarded posts like this are what one can expect from a community filled with libtards LARPing as MAGA because "Letting terrorists be is OK, flooding the west with rapefugees is OK, but MUG GAMES OH NO NOT MUH GAMES!.."
If any subversion is complete, it's the subversion of this sub by terrorist-loving bots.
No, Trump did not "betray his base" - you are a tiny minority within his base.
No, there are no "boots on the grounds" or any kind of draft, despite your constant LARPing.
No, nobody is sent to "die for Israel".
No, this is not "TEH GREATEST EBIL!!!" - this is vile terrorists who fund other vile terrorists getting what they fucking deserve.
Downvote way.
All because journalists called him : “TACO TRUMP”
Let let him live, who could be shocked at this point