Trump bombed Iran, next up, we wait and see what happens.
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good job retarded puppets
Everyone claiming "Iran has nukes" or "Iran is building nukes" are lying. These people have been lying to us for over 100 years.
The most important lesson: don't trust known liars.
[addition] Trump just confirmed if Iran doesn't "negotiate peace" (acquiescence to the demands of warmongers and liars) then Trump is going to bomb more targets in Iran.
Well, I'll put it like this. A lot of cities are evacuating around the nuclear facilities. If they weren't developing any significant weapons, we won't see radiation leaks from the facilities, or radioactive smoke from the facilities that are currently on fire.
If we see radiation spikes, then that would suggest nuclear weapons and material was struck by the bombs and is exposed to the air, ground water, or soil.
Like it or not, I think we'll have an answer, and I think that the monitoring stations picked up radiation spikes in Iran from previous attacks already.
If you bomb any nuclear facility, even with conventional bombs, it's just like detonating a dirty bomb, spreading radioactive material everywhere. No shit people would evacuate the area. Do you expect people to stay next to a nuclear power plant that's about to get bombed?
No, I'm not. I'm saying that the level, and kind, of radiation leakage will conclusively prove whether or not Iran has those weapons. You'll be able to physically measure the level of Uranium 235 in the air.
If high concentrations of U-235 show up floating into Afghanistan, then you'll know. If they don't, then you'll also know.
No. If it's deep underground, and hit with a ground penetrating bomb? Everything collapses in on itself and almost nothing in the inside gets to the outside.
There's also the likelihood that enriched materials were stored elsewhere, given Iran's spreading the program across many locations, eh?
A nuclear power station is entirely above ground, entirely different situation, and a LOT less materials than was likely at Fordow. It would be ugly, but a tiny fraction of the scale a "dirty bomb" airburst would be.
What happens next?
Iran will retaliate. Americans will die. Israel will get their US
bootscannon fodder on the ground.Get ready to die for Israel, expendable goy.
Iran regularly kills Americans anyhow, usually through their proxy armies (terrorist groups) eh?
Well hopefully thats it.
Yeah, I think that's what we're all hoping.
But knowing Iran, they'll try to attack us anyway.
Funny way of spelling israel
No, I'm pretty sure that Iran is going to attack us specifically. We kinda caused that just now.
Probably, but a domestic terror attack false flag just seems too likely currently
False flag? Nah. No reason. Israel has lots of co-operation. They don't need to justify a false flag.
I don't see any reason why Iran wouldn't attack US military personelle, or conduct terrorist attacks.
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I think you're actually the jew here.
I mean... You can't expect them not to counter-attack. It would be crazy if they didn't.
They've been doing that for a long time now, if anything they might pause a bit to regroup before their government gets (hopefully!) overthrown from within.
Doing what we should have been doing for years now and asserting that the United States is in fact the main character, and everyone else should just do what we say. I do not apologize. Get some bitches.
imagine being proud of being an israeli puppet
Imagine simping for the enemies of America because you cant help but seethe at someone who shares our values.
I'm not super happy with this, but if this is what you're gonna do, you're kinda gonna have to double it the fuck down.
Israel: just one more regime change, bro, this will finally solve the problem of everyone in the region hating us, bro
I mean, basically, that's their plan.
With Iran specifically I don't see how they have a choice if they're trying to stop them from becoming a nuclear power - while the current government is hell bent on becoming one. Are they just going to keep doing this? Eventually they'll miss and Iran will get the bomb. Non-proliferation is a lost cause unless the problem states are all under your control.
Look, logically they should back off. It's not worth it. Hell, it's more worth it to buy a nuclear weapon secretly. The only sane option is to change course, even if you don't want to kiss the ring. Even if you want to attack US military assets, you have to give up on building a nuke.
I'm not convinced that the Iranian government is "Hitler in the Bunker" levels of delusional. They'll talk like their insane, but so do the North Koreans, and they can all actually face reality on the ground.
I don't know, personally, what their level of delusion is. I'd trust the American diplomatic corps on that.
I think their weapons program is set back by a decade or more, depending on how well they "squirreled away" and spread the program out.
Funny, it's (probably) back to where it was when Obama gave them permission to build nuclear weapons back in the day. 🤨
Saudi Arabia was going to officially 'normalize relations' with Israel, a huge milestone to peace in the ME. It was due to happen a week or 2 after... 10/7 😶
Iran hates the Saudis, bigly. I have no doubt the attack just before the Saudis and Israel officially got friendly isn't by accident.
Its pretty much the conclusion I came to about a year ago now. There is very little we can do to actually go full on isolation because everyone will keep trying to screw with us, and I would rather have an American world than a Chinese one. So may as well just dispense with all the notions to the contrary and be the America Japan thinks we are.
And have fun with it, because why would you willing chose to be miserable.
I don't like the American Imperium. But we also can't let it go.
Iran is fucking with us, so I can't say the Iranians haven't been earning this, and strangely enough, the Arab world has not really come up to defend them either, which suggests they must be really pissing everyone off.
Arabs and Persians aren't the same thing.
That's one of the many reasons why the Arab world isn't coming to defend them. Another part of it is because they are Shia.
Like I said elsewhere, nobody wants Iran to have a nuke. Yeah, sure, you'll hear other countries grumble some, but nobody there thinks Iran can be trusted.
This true for Turkey, Saudi, Qatar... possibly even Pakistan, whom have remained relatively quiet about all of this.
Even Russia and China haven't made statements supporting a nuclear program, just condemning attacks on Iranian sovereignty.
Pretty much. If there was a way to walk it back, and return to a time where we can just say that we are going to send our own troops to guard our own friends and allies, and the ships are only for us and our friends, and we merely trade with those who seek trade with us, I would love that.
But that world is long gone, so may as well go full hog, embrace the McKinley and TR, and tell everyone else "If you got a problem, take a number. I'll kill you in a minute." I think we absolutely should still prioritize our friends and allies over "world police", and even re-evaluate who is and isnt actually allies (my personal belief: Kick the Euro's to the curb, keep friends in Eastern Europe, go all in on Asia, acknowledge Israel is and always will be a wild card, we can keep the Anglosphere due to cultural ties though).
And besides, if anything I think this makes China think twice about anything to do with Taiwan. Since that is one that we (including Trump) have actually shown a willingness to stand up for when push comes to shove. And now we are back to having First-Term Trump who is ready and willing to drop overwhelming force on someone just to prove a point without putting any (or any significant) American forces in harms way.
I will say, this will probably worry the shit out of China. "Oh fuck, he's crazy."
Can't deny that. I really would rather dismantle the American Imperium, and replace it with a coalition of nationalists, but where not near that yet, and I can't deny that Iran really does want to FAFO. I truly can't understand why they need to be so aggressive against Israel, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and the US.
Hopefully, the responding irregular warfare attacks against US military and civilians will be minimal.
Sunni v Shiite... and FIGHT! 😸
I forget who's the 'good one' in Islam... probably neither of them.
It's definitely neither.
Israel: just one more regime change, bro, this will finally solve the problem of everyone in the region hating us, bro
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you should volunteer to paradrop in there with nothing but an m249 in your birthday suit and show them what america's really about !! !! if you don't do it you're a pussy and a sand lover!!
Sorry, that's for people with skill issues and a lack of the 1st, 2nd, 4th, and 5th largest air forces on the planet with technology that allows them to literally ignore the enemy unless we want them to die. No need to do something like that when you can just make the sky start missing pixels and suddenly everything you want dead is in fact dead.
sounds like you hate both america and israel, otherwise you'd be willing to lay down your LIFE to protect democracy and FREEDOM.
Why would I do that when I can make the terrorist lay down their lives for their beliefs, just like every war in history?
to prove your loyalty to the cause, duh! otherwise you're a terrorist. you don't wanna die for america and israel to protect democracy? don't you know how expensive those missiles are? who's gonna pay all those taxes, you?
Nah, dying is for losers. Winners are the ones who get to go home with the satisfaction of seeing their enemies crushed and hearing the lamentations of their women.
Also, I dont think you understand: Funding those bombs is one of the only things I actually want my taxes paying for. Everything else is none of their business.
too bad, chump. you're also funding the data centers that'll mark you as a danger to the system later when they decide they haven't killed enough Americans in the war.
72-hour rule.
I can live with all us doing is dropping those GBU-72s. Please no protracted ground war.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GBU-57A/B_MOP
Gbu 57s
Looks like it's time for another Middle East war again.
Im reminded of the time he bombed syria was it? During his first term. Or more recently when he bombed the houthis
He killed an Iranian quds force general in his first term, if that's what you're trying to think of?
No. He bombed syria. The 2017 shayrat air base bombing. News was claiming he started ww3 while suddenly dems and rinos praised him. It dropped out of the news cycle pretty fast when it became obvious syria would do jack shit
Because he does strikes like this to make a point, not to start some large scale campaign.
For all the talk of how he will totally start WW3 with things like this, I find it funny how so many of the people screaming about it forgot that he utterly annihilated hundreds of Russian "mercenaries" in an overwhelming display of force in Syria, and all it did was make the Russians avoid anything even tangentially related to the US in the area.
Basically if youre strong, you also need to show youre strong. Passive strength doesnt stop people from fucking with you
Yeah, and the people unwilling to acknowledge this is frankly starting to get on my nerves. It is actually what turned me off from the Isolationist types entirely: I can completely understand wanting to pull back and avoid conflict, but the world lives by the law of the jungle and you must show that you are both ready and willing to use depraved, overwhelming violence to keep people from doing anything to you. And if you refuse, you just become a doormat. And the fact none of them seem to understand this is the thing that makes them utterly noncredible as an ideology in my view, just as disconnected from the real world as Communist.
Funny how we aren't bombing the shit out of North Korea, as they have nukes and continue missile evolution while screaming about destroying America and shooting at and kidnapping citizens of two allied countries.
You need to bomb them before they get nukes
Once the Genie is out of the bottle? It's too late.
Plus N. Korea's nukes are pretty small, and they lack the materials to make a bunch of them. Iran has accumulated a lot of material to make weapons with :/
Which is exactly why we need to make sure we dont make that mistake again. Bill Clinton was one of our worst presidents in more ways than one.
In the meantime, I hope we look into more ways to fix the problem of Nork nukes.
Are they lolberterians
The irony is, most lolberterians in my experience know about "peace through superior firepower" when it involves them owning guns to guard against the criminals and a tyrannical government. But then their brain breaks and they suddenly go all squishy and shrieking violet when you take it to an international place.
There's an argument that he just ended the justification for Israel's strikes. If Iran plays it cool, the bombs and missiles stop and everyone goes home.
But Trumpenyahu wants the Ayatollah out, so, yeah, not likely imo.
If that happens without putting a single American boot on the ground (outside of possible sneaky-beaky types, and those never counted), then frankly I dont see the problem.
Make Iran Persia Again. It will be better for the world overall. Then we can finally tell the Saudi's to either get with the program or we can finally kicked them to the curb and tell them to piss off.
Every time Iran tried to liberalize the British overthrew their government.
After WW2, we took over that role.
The Ayatollah was a reaction to all the western fuckery. We actually supported him because we felt it was better than Iran going commie. When they took the embassy they found all the proof of our misdeeds and published them for the world to see. We never apologized. Then we armed Saddam and pushed him into an 8 year meatgrinder war with Iran that solidified the Ayatollah's power.
In the 90s, Iran was liberalizing again. When 9/11 happened Iran offered full support to the US (they had rebels in Afghanistan we could tap into). Then Bush 2 called them the "axis of evil."
Iran's only real crime is having stuff other people want (Oil and land). Same old story.
Cool. That was yesterday. We have seen plenty of evidence that the Iranian people are more than willing to want to get rid of the Ayatollah's by their own hand (to the point even vast swaths of the country isnt even Muslim anymore). And now that there is a president who doesnt care about them beyond "As long as you arent a threat to America, I dont care about you." this would be the perfect time to take back their own destiny. And if there are a few Green Berets helping with that to make sure, all the better.
You're thinking of this one
This channel seems to be pretty good at live tracking without being garbage MSM
Even Iran is saying the strike on the Fordo facility has caused damage that was "massive".
Welp, that tells me that if you drop six to eight GBU-57's on something, no matter how deep it is, it will no longer exist.
Edit 1 - Some of the other nuclear facilities were struck by surface-to-shore Tomahawk cruise missiles from a submarine. Possibly the USS Georgia.
The push for regime change will continue, even if it pauses briefly.