A lot of people believe that force was necessary and worth it, and that throwing away little things like true freedom of association were prices that needed to be paid.
It's crazy how I was ever convinced that soldiers with guns marching blacks into perfectly functioning, peaceful, high performing white schools was a good thing.
The legacy of bussing still persists today. There is a ton of prime real estate in my area that is severely undervalued and under-utilized solely because the school districts in the nicer areas are lumped in with nearby ghettos.
Blacks don't want to be around whites and whites don't want to be around blacks. Why can't the government just let us live peacefully (or in the case of blacks violently) among ourselves?
I suppose they did create the conditions for bussing since their religious schools didn't have racial quotas, but why are you asserting that Leftist Racial Ordering is the societal norm?
Indians: Hate other Indians from other castes, also think all other races are easy pawns.
Jews: Hate other Jews from other poverty levels, also think other races are easy pawns.
Chinese: same as above but hate black people.
Japanese: More unified but hate everyone else in their country. Especially hate blacks.
Koreans: Same as above.
Middle Eastern and African: Everyone is/was/will be slaves.
South American and other Latin derivative speaker: They hate each other.
All this is blamed on by White people (regardless of national or regional association.) Some of it is justified (LatinX, BLM, pronoun bullshit) but once these people experience a non-liberal life and have an IQ higher than an empty can of tuna, they understand White neighbors are the safest and trust worthy. Once their gone, nothing will help them.
...I'm seeing a -6 for my score, meaning at least 7 downvotes
u/Delon essentially agreed with me, that they hate nonwhites. Others on this sub agree with me as well. Yet, I got downvoted, despite the fact that I was correct.
i didn't bother with the arrow. But the point is that most white people, my old normie self included, hate the way nons behave. We hate the societies they create, the conditions, the culture. And we hate it because it is the antithesis to what we naturally create. To our way of living. The ways they live, if they do it near us, destroy the ways we live. The problem is that we genuinely try to see race as just a skin color, oblivious to the effects it has on culture, society, behaviors. So yes, we hate them. But we hate the content of their character. And we can't see that it IS a race thing, and that we SHOULD hate the people who create the bad conditions, not just the bad conditions
reading comprehension? you're saying whites already hate non whites, he's saying not enough, as in most whites aren't hating non whites yet. the two statements aren't the same.
Even in the peak KKK, most White people didn’t hate Black people. It was just the law. I’ve heard stories from the last days of the KKK and all people (all skin colors) went to see their last rallies because it was something to do. It was en excuse to get drunk and high.
Any racial conflicts from White people only arise from the “Now Kiss” method from the government and experienced character queues (gang banger balls, losing jobs from other races, neighborhood nuisances.) It’s something the other races have learned from education from their peers and their society.
Kalergi plan. And divide et impera because diversity just ends up creating division(human beings didn't evolve to just get along with everyone). The Kalergi plan is not just for Europe by the way. America has become the epitome of the Kalergi plan since the 1970s.
It's never voluntary and the kids always end up suffering. I wonder how many times this sad scene happened across the country? And don't forget when Eisenhower ignored Posse Comitus and sent in the cucks in the 101st airborne to literally force kids to march at bayonet point into their new integrated zoos.
As someone who went to a "non-consensually integrated" high school, you are quite wrong.
Niggers do not have honor, nor do they understand it. If you "win" against one in any way, he will be back with 6 friends to physically make sure you can never win anything again. If you upset one in a way you didn't even recognize, he will be thinking about giving you brain damage via head smashing into concrete. You cannot lift weights into being immune to a sucker punch from behind followed by a rock to the dome.
This is why all whites join the Neo-Nazis in prison. The literal only safety from niggers of all sizes and impulses it to travel in packs big enough to keep them from trying. And that's all hardened criminals. A growing boy will not have that level of protection.
only upto end of elementary school, don't send your huwite children to black middle or high school if you just want them to be immunized against nigger worship propaganda
This is one big reason I have some pity for Boomers. This shit started in the 60s. The Goyest Generation did this. They were the cops and the parents who let it happen. Boomers are bad, but imagine this kind of indoctrination starting when you're ten. They didn't have much chance.
Not disagreeing but the picture looks like a college protest. I know in the past they sent middle schoolers and high schoolers to these places, so I question the picture itself.
Seems like there's a lot of people stirring the pot on all sides these days.
I thought so too and looked it up to confirm it was from the Boston anti-bussing protest. It is, but the caption said "Police chased the group and arrested many of them after they stopped a black man and beat him. The group had been waiting for school buses that had been rerouted to avoid trouble when the black man happened by."
But that was from the AP so consider the source. They've always been subversive and biased.
The issue wasn't even about integration. That was the Leftist narrative to justify it. The schools were not segregated. The issue was that bussing was unpopular because it forced middle-class kids to go to poor schools, even if it meant being bussed dozens of miles further. Black kids could attended schools with white kids and vice versa.
The issue was that the government asserted a racial quota system, where kids would be forcibly trafficked to schools in order to claim that the schools were "de-segregated". This was a lie, there was no segregation in Boston at the time, the issue was that there was no mandated racial quota system at the time.
Here's an even better issue: jews were heavily against the racial quotas because it was also effecting their religious schools and private schools and damaging their communities they got over-ruled by Leftist racial nonsense.
Further more, not only was it unpopular it's been unpopular, and was rescinded decades ago because it never desegregated anything.
Why would I make a universal, inter-termporal, homogenous claim into a specifical legal conflict that took place in Boston in the 1970's?
Do I really have to explain to you the context that when I say "jews" I am explicitly referring to: may of the jews of the Boston and New England area, concentrated heavily among the orthodox and religious educational communities, specifically within the 1970's.
Couldn't you have picked up that context by referring to the topic?
Whites protested against segregation, and now protested against it in Boston, and now protested for it at Harvard! Why can't they make up their mind?!!
Because I'm intentionally conflating wildly different people with wildly different contexts with wildly different regions at wildly different times. You are doing the same with jews because it serves your purpose to apply your thinking only to everyone else.
And even then, you're still arguing about segregation, which this wasn't. But repeating Leftist talking points serves your narrative.
The whole reason they did the busing was because they argued the schools were de facto segregated. It happened because Brown did little to change racial composition of schools. This is what people like you did.
If you’re going to say that segregation should be a thing, don’t pretend that the facilities are equal when you intentionally starve the black schools of money because you don’t like black people.
That is why Plessy v Ferguson was overturned to begin with, because in practice, separate was never equal
No one is equal. No groups are equal. Trying to force egalitarianism and equality onto things which are different, is insane and evil. Every time it's attempted, they take from those that produce, and give to those that don't.
Different people are meant to be separated into their own homes, communities, and nations. They're meant to pursue their own interests, goals, morals, religions, philosophies, and governance with their own people, to succeed or fail based on their own merit.
By your logic, every single White nation should be forced to pay for all the non-white nations, because we live next time them, because we succeed and they don't, which is viewed by people like you as "intentionally starve them", by not giving them all of our stuff, while they don't produce enough for their own people. So, in addition to busing non-whites into White nations, because Whitey is evil and deserves it, because nons deserve "equality" with Whites, according to people like you, so too are White people's productivity stolen by governmental force to give to those who we share nothing in common with, who will never be equal to us, who will never be able to build a thriving home, community, or nation with.
Let's look at old photos of all the formerly White cities in the late 1800s and early 1900s, and compare them to now, when they've been taken over by nons. Did the nons maintain what White people built? Did the nons appreciate all the gifts they were given? Do the cities look the same as before, or have all of them turned into garbage infested, worn down, crime ridden, dessicated husks of their former glory?
No one is equal. No groups are equal. Trying to force egalitarianism and equality onto things which are different, is insane and evil. Every time it's attempted, they take from those that produce, and give to those that don't.
Different people are meant to be separated into their own homes, communities, and nations. They're meant to pursue their own interests, goals, morals, religions, philosophies, and governance with their own people, to succeed or fail based on their own merit.
I never said that they weren’t or could not. What I said was that if whatever the hell were the population ratios back then in the post-Reconstruction to CRA America was (Reconstruction itself was very weird because of black people gaining status they wouldn’t until post CRA, hence why I’m talking about Jim Crow era America), wasn’t the ratio of money spread (the common ratio I hear was 90% white and 10% black) wasn’t the money spread, then I don’t care. If the money was that and still nothing happened (as most of the famous black people from that time period who weren’t integration activists were athletes and musicians, as for example I don’t think I’ve seen a single photo of a black person working on the Manhattan Project), fine, but at least make that ten percent available, which notably the governments of the states with Jim Crow laws did not. If the 10 percent wasted the 10 percent of money given to them, absolutely they must live with the consequences, but IIRC, the 10 percent wasn’t even given 10 percent of allotted money.
By your logic, every single White nation should be forced to pay for all the non-white nations, because we live next time them, because we succeed and they don't, which is viewed by people like you as "intentionally starve them", by not giving them all of our stuff, while they don't produce enough for their own people.
I never compared that era of America to immigration so how is this a thing at all? I’m going to assume that you wish that black people were all deported to Liberia like what was allegedly supposed to happen post-Civil War, pre the 13th through 15th amendments, but regardless of that, black people lived in America, while as slaves yes, but black people still have been in this country since the 13 colonies.
So, in addition to busing non-whites into White nations, because Whitey is evil and deserves it, because nons deserve "equality" with Whites, according to people like you, so too are White people's productivity stolen by governmental force to give to those who we share nothing in common with, who will never be equal to us, who will never be able to build a thriving home, community, or nation with.
Let's look at old photos of all the formerly White cities in the late 1800s and early 1900s, and compare them to now, when they've been taken over by nons. Did the nons maintain what White people built? Did the nons appreciate all the gifts they were given? Do the cities look the same as before, or have all of them turned into garbage infested, worn down, crime ridden, dessicated husks of their former glory?
The only thing I can do is be a productive member of society and ideally have children who will also grow up to become productive members of society as well. Sometimes I wonder whether or not we will eventually live in a world where businesses actually do bar me from entering because of what I look like, but then I realize that while there might be a large amount of people who think the way you do, the percentage that actually lives in this country is a lot lower than I think it is, which is mostly because I keep taking 4chan users seriously when I shouldn’t.
I just want to live in a peaceful world and hate that a large chunk of the people who look like aren’t like me, Smith1850, MattTheBlack and etc and are instead idiots who irrationally hate white people and commit violence at crazy rates.
I never said that they weren’t or could not. What I said was that if whatever the hell were the population ratios back then in the post-Reconstruction to CRA America was (Reconstruction itself was very weird because of black people gaining status they wouldn’t until post CRA, hence why I’m talking about Jim Crow era America), wasn’t the ratio of money spread (the common ratio I hear was 90% white and 10% black) wasn’t the money spread, then I don’t care. If the money was that and still nothing happened (as most of the famous black people from that time period who weren’t integration activists were athletes and musicians, as for example I don’t think I’ve seen a single photo of a black person working on the Manhattan Project), fine, but at least make that ten percent available, which notably the governments of the states with Jim Crow laws did not. If the 10 percent wasted the 10 percent of money given to them, absolutely they must live with the consequences, but IIRC, the 10 percent wasn’t even given 10 percent of allotted money.
Modern taxation, welfare, and the centralized federal government didn't exist back then. Black people weren't being taxed to pay for White folk, nor vice versa. The federal government was much, much smaller around the time of the Civil War. Most taxes didn't even exist back then, and the federal government was funded mostly off of tariffs. For example, the income tax didn't exist until 1913. You're arguing on behalf of something that didn't exist back then.
Since, back then, communities took care of themselves, if black communities were poorer, it's because their people were less productive. The often repeated normie/brainwashed counterargument to this is to say: "but Whitey oppressed them". But, this counter argument always ignores the average bell curve of all non-white peoples, where ever they exist, which holds true across national borders, continents, and time. We see all of these measurable and repeatable statistics hold up, even across socio-economic factors. For example, the richest black people are much more violent than even the most poor White people. Even accounting for testosterone, black women are much more violent than White men. And, if poverty prevented productivity, then how come every single White colony and nation was built from nothing, with people that started with nothing, but worked anyway to make it better? Your argument ignores all of these facts.
Furthermore, taxation and welfare has never been equal. Taxation always takes from the productive, and welfare is always given to those less productive (by chance or by choice). White people, nor any other people, should be forced at gun point to pay for people who don't belong in their homes, communities, and nations.
You're arguing from a point of ignorance about what "nation" means. "Nation" is derived from old French and Latin, which literally translates to: family, children, parents, heritage, progeny, familial bond, blood, people. A nation is the people. If you change the people, you change the nation. You can't transplant a unique people from one location to another, and expect them to act completely differently. This is the very tired and disproven "magic dirt" lie pushed by those who argue for race blindness and egalitarianism. Furthermore, you can't inject different people into a nation and expect the nation to remain the same. Conflict is always built on diversity and proximity. We see this play out with the interracial crime stats, even in "peaceful" times. Every measurable metric for social cohesion and societal health degrades or entirely collapses with diversity being forced into it. It's like trying to force soccer players into a football game. It creates pure chaos because the games are completely different, the rules are different, the people are different, and it would prevent either side from being able to play. Non-whites don't belong in White nations, and can't maintain or deserve what we build or produce. Whites don't belong in non-white nations, either.
I never compared that era of America to immigration so how is this a thing at all? I’m going to assume that you wish that black people were all deported to Liberia like what was allegedly supposed to happen post-Civil War, pre the 13th through 15th amendments, but regardless of that, black people lived in America, while as slaves yes, but black people still have been in this country since the 13 colonies.
Yes. Black people deserve to live in black nations. They have tons of them in Africa. They deserve the same natural rights that White people, or Arabs, or Asians deserve. We all deserve the right to have our own groups, homes, communities, and nations, to control who enters, to gatekeep, to collectivize and espouse for our ethnic interests in our own homelands, to pursue our own goals and interests, and to protect our loved ones and people. This doesn't mean I hate black people, or anyone else. It just means that White people, right now, are actively being denied our natural rights, while everyone else is being mass imported into White nations and given all of our land, productivity, and birthright. Anyone arguing otherwise is, if they're White, a traitor to their own people and deserves a traitor's punishment.
The only thing I can do is be a productive member of society and ideally have children who will also grow up to become productive members of society as well. Sometimes I wonder whether or not we will eventually live in a world where businesses actually do bar me from entering because of what I look like, but then I realize that while there might be a large amount of people who think the way you do, the percentage that actually lives in this country is a lot lower than I think it is, which is mostly because I keep taking 4chan users seriously when I shouldn’t.
I take it then, that you're not White? Why are you living here? Why are you not living with your own people? Why do you think access to White people is your right?
How is what I'm saying wrong? I actively grant everyone the exact same rights as I expect White people to have. It's you that's the hypocrite. You expect White people to open their borders and nations to the entire damned planet, and expect us to like it, as we're systematically replaced and genocided in our nations that our ancestors conquered and built. If this were happening to your people, you'd be screaming bloody murder, but because racism against White people has been normalized, because active denial of many natural rights has been denied to White people, you make excuse for it and defend it, because you actively benefit by living next to the productivity of White people. You are a hypocrite.
I just want to live in a peaceful world and hate that a large chunk of the people who look like aren’t like me, Smith1850, MattTheBlack and etc and are instead idiots who irrationally hate white people and commit violence at crazy rates.
No one is stopping you. Go build your own communities, groups, and nations. Control who enters and gatekeep out undesirables. I grant you what you actively deny me and my own.
Blacks destroy everything they touch. You could give them the best of everything and they’ll either destroy it or sell it. No reason to give anywhere close to equal resources to them.
Yeah, but now we're all integrated, and everyone gets along, so it was worth it!
/s
In the 90s I would have said this unironically.
Yeah, I was retarded then.
They got a lot of people good.
A lot of people believe that force was necessary and worth it, and that throwing away little things like true freedom of association were prices that needed to be paid.
It's quite striking, when you put it like that. Imagine sending a white suburban kid to a black school in current year.
It's crazy how I was ever convinced that soldiers with guns marching blacks into perfectly functioning, peaceful, high performing white schools was a good thing.
The legacy of bussing still persists today. There is a ton of prime real estate in my area that is severely undervalued and under-utilized solely because the school districts in the nicer areas are lumped in with nearby ghettos.
Blacks don't want to be around whites and whites don't want to be around blacks. Why can't the government just let us live peacefully (or in the case of blacks violently) among ourselves?
jew know why.... we all do.
Jews were the ones protesting against the bussing mandate, idiot.
They created the very conditions of bussing.
Do they have school bus service in the part of Tel Aviv you’re typing from?
I suppose they did create the conditions for bussing since their religious schools didn't have racial quotas, but why are you asserting that Leftist Racial Ordering is the societal norm?
The chart mostly goes like this nowadays:
Blacks: Hate everyone, especially other blacks.
Indians: Hate other Indians from other castes, also think all other races are easy pawns.
Jews: Hate other Jews from other poverty levels, also think other races are easy pawns.
Chinese: same as above but hate black people.
Japanese: More unified but hate everyone else in their country. Especially hate blacks.
Koreans: Same as above.
Middle Eastern and African: Everyone is/was/will be slaves.
South American and other Latin derivative speaker: They hate each other.
All this is blamed on by White people (regardless of national or regional association.) Some of it is justified (LatinX, BLM, pronoun bullshit) but once these people experience a non-liberal life and have an IQ higher than an empty can of tuna, they understand White neighbors are the safest and trust worthy. Once their gone, nothing will help them.
Whites: hate nonwhites
not nearly as much as we should
It's funny to me how you (and many others) agree yet I have so many downvotes XD clearly I was right.
You have literally a single upvote, and he doesn't have any. Did your mathing break? You weren't right at all.
...I'm seeing a -6 for my score, meaning at least 7 downvotes
u/Delon essentially agreed with me, that they hate nonwhites. Others on this sub agree with me as well. Yet, I got downvoted, despite the fact that I was correct.
Maybe you misunderstood what I meant
i didn't bother with the arrow. But the point is that most white people, my old normie self included, hate the way nons behave. We hate the societies they create, the conditions, the culture. And we hate it because it is the antithesis to what we naturally create. To our way of living. The ways they live, if they do it near us, destroy the ways we live. The problem is that we genuinely try to see race as just a skin color, oblivious to the effects it has on culture, society, behaviors. So yes, we hate them. But we hate the content of their character. And we can't see that it IS a race thing, and that we SHOULD hate the people who create the bad conditions, not just the bad conditions
reading comprehension? you're saying whites already hate non whites, he's saying not enough, as in most whites aren't hating non whites yet. the two statements aren't the same.
Even in the peak KKK, most White people didn’t hate Black people. It was just the law. I’ve heard stories from the last days of the KKK and all people (all skin colors) went to see their last rallies because it was something to do. It was en excuse to get drunk and high.
Any racial conflicts from White people only arise from the “Now Kiss” method from the government and experienced character queues (gang banger balls, losing jobs from other races, neighborhood nuisances.) It’s something the other races have learned from education from their peers and their society.
Blacks want what Whites have and aren't willing to keep to themselves
Kalergi plan. And divide et impera because diversity just ends up creating division(human beings didn't evolve to just get along with everyone). The Kalergi plan is not just for Europe by the way. America has become the epitome of the Kalergi plan since the 1970s.
Blacks want to be around Whites. They think access to Whites is a human right.
Fucking hate pigs and ZOGbots alike
It's never voluntary and the kids always end up suffering. I wonder how many times this sad scene happened across the country? And don't forget when Eisenhower ignored Posse Comitus and sent in the cucks in the 101st airborne to literally force kids to march at bayonet point into their new integrated zoos.
You know I get tired of everything getting framed around protecting females. Sending your sons to a hellhole is just as bad.
At least a boy in that environment will become strong and a good fighter. A girl will just get raped.
As someone who went to a "non-consensually integrated" high school, you are quite wrong.
Niggers do not have honor, nor do they understand it. If you "win" against one in any way, he will be back with 6 friends to physically make sure you can never win anything again. If you upset one in a way you didn't even recognize, he will be thinking about giving you brain damage via head smashing into concrete. You cannot lift weights into being immune to a sucker punch from behind followed by a rock to the dome.
This is why all whites join the Neo-Nazis in prison. The literal only safety from niggers of all sizes and impulses it to travel in packs big enough to keep them from trying. And that's all hardened criminals. A growing boy will not have that level of protection.
Because men aren't raped in prison? And even athletes can get shivved
only upto end of elementary school, don't send your huwite children to black middle or high school if you just want them to be immunized against nigger worship propaganda
This is one big reason I have some pity for Boomers. This shit started in the 60s. The Goyest Generation did this. They were the cops and the parents who let it happen. Boomers are bad, but imagine this kind of indoctrination starting when you're ten. They didn't have much chance.
Not disagreeing but the picture looks like a college protest. I know in the past they sent middle schoolers and high schoolers to these places, so I question the picture itself.
Seems like there's a lot of people stirring the pot on all sides these days.
I thought so too and looked it up to confirm it was from the Boston anti-bussing protest. It is, but the caption said "Police chased the group and arrested many of them after they stopped a black man and beat him. The group had been waiting for school buses that had been rerouted to avoid trouble when the black man happened by."
But that was from the AP so consider the source. They've always been subversive and biased.
You don't know anything about American history.
The issue wasn't even about integration. That was the Leftist narrative to justify it. The schools were not segregated. The issue was that bussing was unpopular because it forced middle-class kids to go to poor schools, even if it meant being bussed dozens of miles further. Black kids could attended schools with white kids and vice versa.
The issue was that the government asserted a racial quota system, where kids would be forcibly trafficked to schools in order to claim that the schools were "de-segregated". This was a lie, there was no segregation in Boston at the time, the issue was that there was no mandated racial quota system at the time.
Here's an even better issue: jews were heavily against the racial quotas because it was also effecting their religious schools and private schools and damaging their communities they got over-ruled by Leftist racial nonsense.
Further more, not only was it unpopular it's been unpopular, and was rescinded decades ago because it never desegregated anything.
Every Jew? No qualifications whatsoever? Really?
Why would I make a universal, inter-termporal, homogenous claim into a specifical legal conflict that took place in Boston in the 1970's?
Do I really have to explain to you the context that when I say "jews" I am explicitly referring to: may of the jews of the Boston and New England area, concentrated heavily among the orthodox and religious educational communities, specifically within the 1970's.
Couldn't you have picked up that context by referring to the topic?
Jews protested against it when it affected them. They protested for it when it affected southerners
Whites protested against segregation, and now protested against it in Boston, and now protested for it at Harvard! Why can't they make up their mind?!!
Because I'm intentionally conflating wildly different people with wildly different contexts with wildly different regions at wildly different times. You are doing the same with jews because it serves your purpose to apply your thinking only to everyone else.
And even then, you're still arguing about segregation, which this wasn't. But repeating Leftist talking points serves your narrative.
You're wildly gay
If you're going to keep repeating Leftist narratives, then you should be congratulating me for that.
The whole reason they did the busing was because they argued the schools were de facto segregated. It happened because Brown did little to change racial composition of schools. This is what people like you did.
They didn't argue their own schools were segregated, that's why they protested it.
You are demanding to assert that white Leftists in Boston are all secretly jews, but they are in fact: Leftists.
If you’re going to say that segregation should be a thing, don’t pretend that the facilities are equal when you intentionally starve the black schools of money because you don’t like black people.
That is why Plessy v Ferguson was overturned to begin with, because in practice, separate was never equal
No one is equal. No groups are equal. Trying to force egalitarianism and equality onto things which are different, is insane and evil. Every time it's attempted, they take from those that produce, and give to those that don't.
Different people are meant to be separated into their own homes, communities, and nations. They're meant to pursue their own interests, goals, morals, religions, philosophies, and governance with their own people, to succeed or fail based on their own merit.
By your logic, every single White nation should be forced to pay for all the non-white nations, because we live next time them, because we succeed and they don't, which is viewed by people like you as "intentionally starve them", by not giving them all of our stuff, while they don't produce enough for their own people. So, in addition to busing non-whites into White nations, because Whitey is evil and deserves it, because nons deserve "equality" with Whites, according to people like you, so too are White people's productivity stolen by governmental force to give to those who we share nothing in common with, who will never be equal to us, who will never be able to build a thriving home, community, or nation with.
Let's look at old photos of all the formerly White cities in the late 1800s and early 1900s, and compare them to now, when they've been taken over by nons. Did the nons maintain what White people built? Did the nons appreciate all the gifts they were given? Do the cities look the same as before, or have all of them turned into garbage infested, worn down, crime ridden, dessicated husks of their former glory?
I never said that they weren’t or could not. What I said was that if whatever the hell were the population ratios back then in the post-Reconstruction to CRA America was (Reconstruction itself was very weird because of black people gaining status they wouldn’t until post CRA, hence why I’m talking about Jim Crow era America), wasn’t the ratio of money spread (the common ratio I hear was 90% white and 10% black) wasn’t the money spread, then I don’t care. If the money was that and still nothing happened (as most of the famous black people from that time period who weren’t integration activists were athletes and musicians, as for example I don’t think I’ve seen a single photo of a black person working on the Manhattan Project), fine, but at least make that ten percent available, which notably the governments of the states with Jim Crow laws did not. If the 10 percent wasted the 10 percent of money given to them, absolutely they must live with the consequences, but IIRC, the 10 percent wasn’t even given 10 percent of allotted money.
I never compared that era of America to immigration so how is this a thing at all? I’m going to assume that you wish that black people were all deported to Liberia like what was allegedly supposed to happen post-Civil War, pre the 13th through 15th amendments, but regardless of that, black people lived in America, while as slaves yes, but black people still have been in this country since the 13 colonies.
The only thing I can do is be a productive member of society and ideally have children who will also grow up to become productive members of society as well. Sometimes I wonder whether or not we will eventually live in a world where businesses actually do bar me from entering because of what I look like, but then I realize that while there might be a large amount of people who think the way you do, the percentage that actually lives in this country is a lot lower than I think it is, which is mostly because I keep taking 4chan users seriously when I shouldn’t.
I just want to live in a peaceful world and hate that a large chunk of the people who look like aren’t like me, Smith1850, MattTheBlack and etc and are instead idiots who irrationally hate white people and commit violence at crazy rates.
Modern taxation, welfare, and the centralized federal government didn't exist back then. Black people weren't being taxed to pay for White folk, nor vice versa. The federal government was much, much smaller around the time of the Civil War. Most taxes didn't even exist back then, and the federal government was funded mostly off of tariffs. For example, the income tax didn't exist until 1913. You're arguing on behalf of something that didn't exist back then.
Since, back then, communities took care of themselves, if black communities were poorer, it's because their people were less productive. The often repeated normie/brainwashed counterargument to this is to say: "but Whitey oppressed them". But, this counter argument always ignores the average bell curve of all non-white peoples, where ever they exist, which holds true across national borders, continents, and time. We see all of these measurable and repeatable statistics hold up, even across socio-economic factors. For example, the richest black people are much more violent than even the most poor White people. Even accounting for testosterone, black women are much more violent than White men. And, if poverty prevented productivity, then how come every single White colony and nation was built from nothing, with people that started with nothing, but worked anyway to make it better? Your argument ignores all of these facts.
Furthermore, taxation and welfare has never been equal. Taxation always takes from the productive, and welfare is always given to those less productive (by chance or by choice). White people, nor any other people, should be forced at gun point to pay for people who don't belong in their homes, communities, and nations.
You're arguing from a point of ignorance about what "nation" means. "Nation" is derived from old French and Latin, which literally translates to: family, children, parents, heritage, progeny, familial bond, blood, people. A nation is the people. If you change the people, you change the nation. You can't transplant a unique people from one location to another, and expect them to act completely differently. This is the very tired and disproven "magic dirt" lie pushed by those who argue for race blindness and egalitarianism. Furthermore, you can't inject different people into a nation and expect the nation to remain the same. Conflict is always built on diversity and proximity. We see this play out with the interracial crime stats, even in "peaceful" times. Every measurable metric for social cohesion and societal health degrades or entirely collapses with diversity being forced into it. It's like trying to force soccer players into a football game. It creates pure chaos because the games are completely different, the rules are different, the people are different, and it would prevent either side from being able to play. Non-whites don't belong in White nations, and can't maintain or deserve what we build or produce. Whites don't belong in non-white nations, either.
Yes. Black people deserve to live in black nations. They have tons of them in Africa. They deserve the same natural rights that White people, or Arabs, or Asians deserve. We all deserve the right to have our own groups, homes, communities, and nations, to control who enters, to gatekeep, to collectivize and espouse for our ethnic interests in our own homelands, to pursue our own goals and interests, and to protect our loved ones and people. This doesn't mean I hate black people, or anyone else. It just means that White people, right now, are actively being denied our natural rights, while everyone else is being mass imported into White nations and given all of our land, productivity, and birthright. Anyone arguing otherwise is, if they're White, a traitor to their own people and deserves a traitor's punishment.
I take it then, that you're not White? Why are you living here? Why are you not living with your own people? Why do you think access to White people is your right?
How is what I'm saying wrong? I actively grant everyone the exact same rights as I expect White people to have. It's you that's the hypocrite. You expect White people to open their borders and nations to the entire damned planet, and expect us to like it, as we're systematically replaced and genocided in our nations that our ancestors conquered and built. If this were happening to your people, you'd be screaming bloody murder, but because racism against White people has been normalized, because active denial of many natural rights has been denied to White people, you make excuse for it and defend it, because you actively benefit by living next to the productivity of White people. You are a hypocrite.
No one is stopping you. Go build your own communities, groups, and nations. Control who enters and gatekeep out undesirables. I grant you what you actively deny me and my own.
Rural Appalachia vs Baltimore. both are terribly uneducated and poor, yet only one has loads of violence theft and murder. Wonder why that is
Blacks destroy everything they touch. You could give them the best of everything and they’ll either destroy it or sell it. No reason to give anywhere close to equal resources to them.