the people who call you "woke right"
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Missed the chance to put Jester's face on there too. Man looks like he has some non human DNA in his ancestry somewhere.
When was the last time Jester posted anything here?
Lord, probably three years ago. I remember he just kept calling everyone else inbred, only to find out he looks like an actual Muppet.
This is the ideal male form. You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.
Eh.
Wrong angle of attack. Not even saying the statements are wrong, but I prefer the logical approach pointing out how massively hypocritical they are.
Every single argument accusing others of being "woke right" is using woke left argumentation style. That's the real issue; even by their own statements, the people calling others woke are clearly signaling that they themselves are the woke ones.
Their other moral failings are important, but not so much for determining who is woke, who is right, and who is correct.
The "woke right" argument is itself woke. That's the important part.
the common denominator between all the people using the term "woke right" is that they are all jews or philosemites.
That's true, but to reach normies (mostly White and Asian ones), is to first show them that the people causing all the problems, the people pretending to be our allies, but are gatekeeping us from moving further right and to actual solutions, that they're all logically inconsistent, hypocrites, and liars.
Good people almost universally adhere to logical consistency. We all have our failings and hang ups with our own logical consistency, but in general this holds true, and is a good way to reach people on most subjects, and gives a good inroad to reach people on topics that they've been brainwashed on.
A lot of people, at first, will argue with you and just repeat the propaganda word for word. But, you have to keep pointing out the inconsistencies with them. This is best done with people you already have a decent relationship with, who will listen to you and give you leeway in a debate. You plant seeds of truth, which gnaw at them over time. The more seeds you plant, the more likely one will bear fruit and open their eyes. If you speak the truth, those seeds will be proven by reality over and over and over, even under the dystopian censorship and lies of the media. Just be calm and rational about it, not a caustic asshole, and you will win people over. Once you win people over on the logical inconsistencies, then you can more easily point out the more uncomfortable truths.
The exponential growth of the true (hard/alt) right is a testament to this fact. If we were incapable of being convinced, none of us would be here. And, since the shooting hasn't started yet (en masse), we can still work to grow our numbers, to normalize the truth, and degrade our enemy's position.
It's ineffectual to point out the hypocrisy of the leftist. They don't give a fuck. The commies are amoral retards and you can't apply your own standards to that mindset. It's like accusing a mosquito of being hypocritical for biting you.
That's generally true, but actually not in this case.
Remember, these people are grifting on the right. So pointing out that they're arguing like a leftist actually is an effective strategy, to use to address the people these "woke right" people are trying to reach.
They're leftists, but they don't claim to be, and the people they're preaching to aren't. So calling out the grift for what it is is great.
Logic actually (often) works on the right. Which is where this discussion is taking place, regardless of individual politics.
Woke right are the group of people who want to use social victim status as a mechanism to increase the scope and size of the federal government.
We used to just call them neocons.
From a libertarian point of view, call it whatever you want, but these are the people who were silent when Trump was being persecuted, and then suddenly found their voice once Trump was elected.
Instead of supporting that agenda they immediately tried to use Trumps victory as an opportunity to push their bloated agendas into government yet again.
That they use the same language as the right but are clearly looking to pervert the momentum for their own ends a convenient handle for their type of behavior seemed justified. You could do worse than "woke right," but it is fitting, particularly for the politically motivated white collar ex-neocon swamp creature class.
"Woke" means people who push lgbt and black people on to White and Asian countries. People who push diversity. End of story. There is no other definition of "woke" , "woke right " is an oxymoron, and anyone who tries to redefine what "woke" means are subverters.
That's the traditional class of people using "woke ideas" to push their agendas. The whole queer and black shit is based on a "history of victimization" that's literally their entire pitch. Is that they should be given special treatment because they're victims.
You've literally missed the whole mechanism to identify a single class. Woke is anyone who uses this mechanism not the people who use it in one particular way.
Yea, this is "woke strategy" right here, can't you see that? To even believe that there's a "universal definition" and acceptance or rejection of it confers a status upon you. The irony here is wild.
There is a universal definition of it. How i defined woke was how everyone was defining it until the jews and philosemites decided to muddy the waters and start accusing people of being "woke right".
My disagreement with you is that you haven't "defined" anything you've just "identified one common use." I think the term can be more broadly applied. Although, I'm willing to use a different one, if you're that offended by these words. What would you suggest?
If you are talking about neocons, just call them neocons. If you are talking about racists just call them racists, if you are talking about White nationalists just call them White nationalists.
Why do you need to call them a different thing, let alone try to muddy the definition of "woke"?
They do it because muddying the definition of woke is the entire point.
Leftists change definitions and shift goal posts constantly, especially when they know they’re losing the argument. It’s all they ever fuckin do. And instead of answering them with the appropriate response of “fuck off, that’s not a thing,” too many people on the right incorporate the new leftist terms into their vocabulary because they think it makes them sound intelligent.
Again, all that needs to be done is for all the people in the pic to be mocked and ridiculed and told to fuck off.
it can't be more broadly applied because there isn't another definition for it, and it is impossible to be "woke right" and anyone who claims that "woke right" is a thing are crypto subversive centre leftists that don't like the right going any further right than Trump or the year 2000's democrats
W.C. Fields
Got any evidence for that claim, I need to verify it?
Also Jordan Peterson took the drugs as prescribed and had to undergo treatment dispite this.
I didn't make this i found it on twitter so im not sure about the IMC one sorry. i know the other stuff on here are definately true though and i've seen them for myself.
Wait Rubin said something about 'woke right' ? I disagree with him on a personal level but he seemed to be on the Tim Pool level of mostly got the right idea, sometimes puts foot in mouth.
He was the main one outside of lindsay, tf you talking about
I just see short clips of him and I never heard him say woke right in those.
I mean he's Dave rubin. Faggots who buy children aren't generally trustworthy.
Which one is Seth Dillon
The argument by all these chuckleheads is that the "woke right" is using collectivist ideas in a racial context, which is a gigantic strawman in and of itself, because unlike the oppressor/oppressed dynamic the woke left uses, race is testable, genetically distinct, and as genetic researchers learn more and more, the largest driver of human behavior and intelligence by something on the order of 80%.
The "woke right" use race as a predictor of behavior, not as a tool for classifying people in the oppressor/oppressed victimhood ladder.
Looks like Judd Hursch moved on from acting.
You're being called woke right because you act like a Leftist pushing the literal exact same hyper-partisan, ultra-identity focused, purity spiraling, mass murder edging, terrorism supporting, tribal faggotry that is the definition of the Leftist Intersectionalist lynch mobs.
This is because you are Leftists, but you're not intersectionalist. You're still race communists.
Not you, Telia. You're just a camel fucking mohammedian Qatari shill. You're not a white racist. I wouldn't accuse you of that.
If we "purity spiral" toward truth, is it wrong, according to you?
No purity spiral every spirals towards truth. Just towards power.
Someone in a position of power defines what perfect righteousness is, then demands acquiescence to that, then will later change the definition of righteousness as they see fit, and his acolytes will follow with him.
The Left do it all the time.
Purely hypothetically, lets pretend the world was taken over by extremely corrupt and evil people, who took hold of the positions of power, a hundred or so years ago. Then, they start exerting greater and greater influence upon all the institutions of society, as they further infiltrate and subvert those institutions, using them to put forth propaganda and lies to brainwash people. The institutions become so corrupt that they now push forth only lies and propaganda, which were able to brainwash entire generations because of their monopoly of control over all mediums of information sharing. Let's also say, purely hypothetically, that a new medium for information sharing is invented (we could call it "the internet"), which lets average people talk to each other outside the confines, control, and censorship of the mainstream media. This new medium allows people to discuss the truth, to spread the truth, person to person. Over time, this discussion of truth wakes more and more people up, not just to the overt lies, but to the small ones, and to the big ones that have been fully ingrained into all of society by this point.
In this purely hypothetical scenario, the brainwashed masses, merely by discussing and spreading the truth, will ipso facto participate in a purity spiral towards truth, because the only things they're disproving and getting rid of are lies and propaganda, as they move back toward the truth, the truths which were abandoned and censored previously as the evil people in power began to exert control over information sharing.
This doesn't necessarily mean that all the posited alternatives are true, but it does mean that the outright lies are being rejected, which necessarily will mean that, purely from a numbers game, more truth will be embraced than not, comparative to the possibility that the people had remained under the control of the propaganda and lies.
There is nothing Gizortnik and the faggots in this image fear more than gentiles having power completely outside of Jewish control and influence. This specifically, is what the "woke right" regime polemic is meant to attack rather than general racism, anti-Semitism, anti-Zionism, etc. Among those kosher cock sucking conservatives, saying that you want power or even want it used for your interests is nearly as controversial as saying "nigger." They want seeking power to be a taboo for the goyim and push for Open Society conservativism.
True, which is why the false (mainstream) right wing also demonizes racism, antisemitism, White nationalism, and White collectivism. They're a trap, built into the political terrain, to trap and hold people trying to move to the right, in an attempt to make sense of the world, to find solutions, and to find groups and leader working for their best interests. But, the false (mainstream) right, is just a trap, and does not work for our best interests. They're actively working against us, while claiming to be our friends.
I think I get what you're trying to say, but that's not really a "spiral." The defining characteristic of a purity spiral is that the circle of acceptable keeps shrinking. The group keeps redefining its membership until there is no group remaining. "You're not really X unless Y," where Y becomes more specific over time.
If there is an objective truth, you can't purity spiral to it because a "spiral" would mean either the definition of truth keeps changing or it can only be known to one person. If what you mean is a spiral-like group behavior that actually stops once it reaches some point, it's not really a purity spiral.
Edit: This is just comments on terminology. Giz is still being a spaz.
On the contrary. Moving toward truth is necessarily a purity spiral. As one moves towards and builds upon truth, more and more falsehoods and lies are abandoned, necessarily requiring someone (or people) to become more stringent on what they consider right and wrong.
Comparative to everything that is false, the truth is infinitely narrow. Think of it in terms of math. 1=1 and only 1. 1 does not equal 2, 3, 4, 5, 112, 12858923492, -1, -2, -21123243, 0.000000642, -523465.22348238482, etc. ad infinitum. Out of the infinite numbers, 1 is only equal to 1. There are an infinite number of wrong possibilities, but only one that is correct. This is true for all truth.
The more we understand truth, the more falsehoods and lies we eliminate from the possibility of being true, which necessarily narrows our understanding of what is true, what is right, and what is good. That's a purity spiral.
Most associate a purity spiral with what the left is doing. And, they're absolutely purity spiraling, but they're spiraling downward toward hell. The "virtues" they hold aren't virtues, they're anti-virtues, they're lies. Everything they argue, believe, and advocate for is destructive, which is one of the best indicators that something is wrong, in part or total. However, their purity spiral isn't organic. It's being pushed from the top down, by incredibly evil people who knew that we'd never accept their end goals. If they outright told us what they wanted, we (or our ancestors) would've killed them immediately. So, in their attempt to get us to those end goals, they incrementalize the journey. They get us to move from A to B, normalize B, propagandize B, and convince us that B is right and A is evil. When most accept B, they then move us to C, and then to D, and so on, until they get us to the end goal. That's the purity spiral the left (and mainstream right) are doing. They keep demonizing more and more things, the more and more mundane, to get us to the end goal of what the people in power actually want.
However, they accelerated this incrementalism lately, which is what's woken so many people up to what's happening. The frogs are jumping out of the boiling pot of water. And, as they progress their evil and lies, it becomes more unacceptable to more people, and no matter how much they try to normalize it via the media, schools, and propaganda, fewer and fewer people will accept it.
That's an interesting way of putting it... But it's like saying the Leibniz Series "purity spirals" towards pi/4. Arguably true I suppose but so disconnected from what anyone else who uses or reads the term expects it to mean that it's essentially useless.
Literally no part of that even challenges my argument. As such, I don't have anything to respond to you with.
People don't need purity spirals to find the truth, I guess? That's probably the most relevant thing I can say between what you wrote and what I wrote.
Truth is necessarily self refining and discriminatory, by its nature.
As I stated in another reply, think of it in terms of math. 1=1 and only 1. 1 does not equal 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, -1, -2, -3, 0.1, 0.01, 0.001, -0.1, -0.01, etc. at infinitum. Out of an infinite number of false statements, there is only one true statement. This is true for all truth. The very existence of one truthful thing, necessarily makes all other statements in contrary to it false.
To pursue truth necessarily means you're in a purity spiral, by rejecting more and more false things and embracing fewer and fewer true things. Granted, however, that truth is infinite, but falsehoods and lies are infinitely infinite.
Going purely from this abstract philosophical basis, which I honestly respect, even Truth can purity spiral.
You actually see this all the time in Science and it's a major reason they don't understand some basic things because they aren't taking the hint. Even with your statement: 1=1, that's not fully true. 0.999 repeating IS equal to 1. This is because if the difference between a number and an infinitesimally small decrease in that number means that there is no actual difference between those numbers, because an infinitely small difference is no real difference. Moreover, you will sometimes see physicists using "Pi = 3" in some calculations. Mathematicians may not like it, but for experimental purposes, if your error and significant digits don't really need that level of precision, this calculation is VALID. The same thing goes for infinite sums of sines and cosines to create a waveform.
All of this is to say that in the natural world, the level of precision you are seeking CAN NOT be infinite. You physically can't know complete precision before your measurements themselves interfere in the ability for you to measure something.
So, if you are hyper-fixating on precision, you will inevitably fail to understand anything you are talking about, because you've purity spiraled on your precision. Anyone asserting you need to have certain levels of precision (either more or less than what is practically needed for the problem) is just exerting power over you.
If you're religious, this would actually make sense to you. Total knowledge is omnipotence, and only God can have that.
^^^ oh look another guy who hates White nationalism and defends jews that uses the term "woke right".
Are you guys noticing the pattern here?
You are such an interloping newfag it hurts sometimes.
Everyone here already knows Giz.
Did i say anything about people not knowing Giz you faggot retard? or did i say "notice the pattern that people who are known to be philosemites and against White nationalism are the ones that use the term "woke right". Can you read or are you blind and brainless? You hold petty grudges against me like you're a woman.
You're pointing at the village idiot as if it's some revelation when it's really just you announcing your candidacy for the position.
You're an outsider and I don't trust you. Get used to the hostility.
I can point at the village idiot however i wish. You on the other hand can't stop being a cry baby . Like i said you act like a women with a petty grudge
I've been here for 4 years faggot. And you dont trust me because you don't like my JPG posts. But if you are going to cry so much about it then i'll just JPG post some more. Cry about it, female.
Adorable.
Like i said. You act like a woman.
I don't use woke right, pedo-worshiper. I just explain that they are talking about the people you are trying to sell your Islamist apologetics to.
believe it or not jews are hated by many many groups besides just muslims, JIDF
Yeah, but yours is specifically linked to the Quran.
Which Mohammed didn't write anyway. He stole it.
Ok? and why would i care about that? im not muslim. And the reason you hate me isn't because of anything else other than the fact that i support White nationalism and critisize jews.
I hate you for being a Qatari Shill that wants to start shit as a terrorist and child-fucking foreign adversary while your country is enriched solely and exclusively by the US Navy.
ok JIDF
What reason do you have to believe that he's a Qatarai provocateur rather than just a run of the mill faggot with politics you despise? That's a very specific claim on your part.
You are either a retarded boomer faggot or a glownigger kike if you believe Qatar has anything to do with this.
Boomers don't know that Qatar exists
Qatari? What? Why do you think those backwards desert savages have the technology to shill online and why would they bother with such a small, obscure forum as this?
Motherfucker, they are a major funder of terrorism around the globe, have nearly as much influence in the US as Israel and Saudi Arabia, are some of the wealthiest people on Earth, don't pay taxes, and build their massive economy off of slave labor and the US military industrial complex. They are the founders of Al-Jazeera, protect the leadership of Hamas, instituted most of the "islamic charities" which funded Al Qaeda, ISIS, Al-Shabab, Hamas and many others, and have fucking ATMs that you can purchase gold with. Yes, Qatar. I think you must be thinking of Oman, Yemen, or Sudan. The average Qatari is wealthier than you.
Probably was thinking Yemenis. But damn, dude, chill.
Sorry, I will chill. Qatar just grinds my gears because they never get called out on their bullshit.
Every person in that image (possibly except IMC who says whatever he is paid for) is a rabid Zionist. You could say those exact same words about them, could but won't.
Of the Zionists yes. I don't think Rubin, Peterson, and... uh... woke right guy mathematician.... are Zionists. Rubin's a useful idiot. Peterson, as far as I can tell, just thinks Israel is a good thing. Mathematician is just a liberal.
They're all Zionists. They all support Israel. They're all hypocrites for doing so while telling Whites not to do identity politics.
Supporting Israel and Zionism aren't the same thing.
That's like calling me an Ethno-Nationalist because I support Ireland.
They are the same thing.
You can't support Ireland without being an ethnat, unless you just mean that you are fond of that particular plot of land.
its best to call them philosemites. No one can deny they are philosemites, but the philosemites will still try to play word games with you and claim they aren't zionists.
Well, I support that Ireland is for the Irish AND that the US is a Civic Nation founded on Liberal doctrines.
Am I an ethno-nationalist?
Philosemites/zionists same thing. If they are not zionists they are still philosemites.
Shush Qatari, you have nothing to contribute.
You are the one that has nothing to contribute
Titus 1:10-14
10 For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision:
11 Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake.
12 One of themselves, even a prophet of their own, said, the Cretians are alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies.
13 This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;
14 Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.
Who is the guy in the upper left corner?
Lindsay is getting a bit chunky, yeah. But not that much. That pic of Ian Miles Cheong as a transvestite is pretty funny.
Did Benji air spray on the beard