It reminds me of when Bluehole sued Epic games over the supposed ripping off of Battle Royale Mechanics, and it ended up causing Fortnite to steal it's place as the biggest battle royale game on the market.
"We can try sueing you. maybe some retarded guy rules in our favour. or maybe your will agree to a solution outside of court, cause you don't want to pay for years of lawyer fees."
2 step shake can be argued as 3rd times the charm rule. Do thing twice then it works the 3rd time, unpatentable as its in most video games, typically for boss fights.
I just did a Brave search and google search for a game like that, and came up empty. I tried to remove "Pokémon" results, tried to specifically mention the Dokémon names you mentioned, but the only result I got was this very post.
Can you provide a link to something that describes this game? Developer blog, forum post, wiki page, anything?
Meh, didn't work that well, considering that I saw hours ago that you replied to someone else that it was a joke.
I thought it might have been real, since I've seen so many different fan-made pokemon games. A surprising number of them were basically elaborate porn, like Pokemon Ecchi Version or Pokemon Girls Hunter, but others were just re-modeled anthropomorphized retextures, like Moemon, while others went with a way more violent and bloody approach, like Pokemon Uncensored Edition.
So when you mentioned a fan-made spin-off game that would essentially be inspired by 4chan, it didn't seem particularly outlandish to me. I was actually curious about what that might look like.
I assume Nintendo will either drop it or lose the case. Even in Japan with really strict laws on that kind of stuff, they have let so many other games get a pass with even more egregious examples of copying Pokemon, such as Temtem. The only reason that Palworld was a target was because of how popular it became.
Apparently its on Gameplay Mechanics instead of design. Of which the only thing I can think of that exists is "capture them with capsules/balls" as most other Mon type games uses different objects that aren't as identical.
You're right, but it's still the same principle. Only the implementation can be patented, not the actual concept in itself. Which, given how different the 2 games are, is statistically impossible that they have the exact same code and implementation.
Considering Yu-Gi-Oh had that mechanic for monsters in defensive position, that must have expired at least 2 decades ago. Unless Yu-Gi-Oh's implementation was different enough that WotC's patent didn't apply.
Then it's going nowhere, since ''their gameplay mechanic is too similar'' is a horrible argument. And it if got anywhere, it would be devastating for games development. ( A good game mechanic could be stuck forever in a shitty game. Case in point ; new Pokémon games have become pretty shitty. ).
Case law already allows game systems to be patented unfortunately. See the Nemesis system. Where Nintendo should lose here is that Palworld isn't the first copycat. If they didn't go after everyone they can't go after anyone.
The 'Pokemon Company's should sue itself for patent infringement. No one in their right could believe the real rights owners would legitimately release such poor quality games without thinking they're cheap knockoffs.
I hope nintendont gets raked over the coals in this. They are a piece of shit company and palworld made their own original IP. Nintendont can't copyright the concept of capturing monsters to use in battle. So get fucked, you retarded scumbag console company.
The Pokemon Company and the US patent system are fucking insane. Patent trolling is so advanced that The Pokemon Company applied for a patent in 2023 on the concept of multiplayer games and fucking got it
A simulation system in which a user can assume and enjoy changes in an operation of a character in a case in which the character is operated inside a virtual space and that can be simultaneously played by a plurality of users is provided. For example, a simulation system includes processing circuitry configured to set commands in a plurality of characters and set an execution order of the commands in a case in which a plurality of commands are set operate the character inside a virtual space based on the commands and the execution order set in the character, set commands and an execution order based on an instruction from each user having each character, and operates one character and other characters inside the virtual space.
On the basis of "we don't like our product being exposed as inferior to yours, and we bet we have more money to blow on lawyers than you do."
It reminds me of when Bluehole sued Epic games over the supposed ripping off of Battle Royale Mechanics, and it ended up causing Fortnite to steal it's place as the biggest battle royale game on the market.
"We can try sueing you. maybe some retarded guy rules in our favour. or maybe your will agree to a solution outside of court, cause you don't want to pay for years of lawyer fees."
I think I saw someone mention mechanics such as ball capturing or something. I haven't played palworld so idk if thats accurate.
That could be. Palworld has a similar mechanic, even the 2 step shake before capture confirmation.
2 step shake can be argued as 3rd times the charm rule. Do thing twice then it works the 3rd time, unpatentable as its in most video games, typically for boss fights.
Nintendo has the patent for throwing something to complete an action.
Digimon? Nothing.
Robopon? Nil.
Bio Motor Unitron? Nada.
Looney Tunes Collector: Alert!? Zip.
Fighting Foodons? Zilch.
Palworld? NOW HOLD IT RIGHT THERE!!
How could you forget Dokémon, featuring beloved fresh monster designs like Clitmonchan, Jewtwo, and Fagmar?
Is that real?
I just did a Brave search and google search for a game like that, and came up empty. I tried to remove "Pokémon" results, tried to specifically mention the Dokémon names you mentioned, but the only result I got was this very post.
Can you provide a link to something that describes this game? Developer blog, forum post, wiki page, anything?
Haha this guy doesn't even know Fagmar.
Sure man here you go
Meh, didn't work that well, considering that I saw hours ago that you replied to someone else that it was a joke.
I thought it might have been real, since I've seen so many different fan-made pokemon games. A surprising number of them were basically elaborate porn, like Pokemon Ecchi Version or Pokemon Girls Hunter, but others were just re-modeled anthropomorphized retextures, like Moemon, while others went with a way more violent and bloody approach, like Pokemon Uncensored Edition.
So when you mentioned a fan-made spin-off game that would essentially be inspired by 4chan, it didn't seem particularly outlandish to me. I was actually curious about what that might look like.
I'm sorry. If you want, I can try making a game like that for you.
Sure. I'll be looking forward to it.
Just finished, hope you enjoy this
I think this guy explains it a bit better. Your link didn't even mention Fagmar.
...Where's the joke?
Listen man, I'm not trying to become a comedian or anything, I just wanted to have a bit of fun.
I assume Nintendo will either drop it or lose the case. Even in Japan with really strict laws on that kind of stuff, they have let so many other games get a pass with even more egregious examples of copying Pokemon, such as Temtem. The only reason that Palworld was a target was because of how popular it became.
Nintendo is kinda shit these days.
I'm glad my uncle doesn't work there anymore.
My dad could tell you so many stories.
Letting it ride for so long and then popping up with this is not a good look lol.
Apparently its on Gameplay Mechanics instead of design. Of which the only thing I can think of that exists is "capture them with capsules/balls" as most other Mon type games uses different objects that aren't as identical.
Which is a stretch among stretches.
It was already proven times and times again gameplay can't be copyrighted anyway. This won't go anywhere then.
If it had the legs to go anywhere, it probably would have happened when they had 2 million players and a lot of press.
Doing it now feels like a bluff and scare tactic to make other people not try it.
Patent isn't the same as copyright. Gameplay mechanics can be patented in Japan, apparently. Pretty sure there are gameplay patents in the USA too.
You're right, but it's still the same principle. Only the implementation can be patented, not the actual concept in itself. Which, given how different the 2 games are, is statistically impossible that they have the exact same code and implementation.
You don't know the difference between patents and copyrights.
The implementation is copyrighted, aka the exact same code.
The concept is patented.
Patent infringement doesn't require copying code. It's about using a patented concept or method, even if implemented differently.
You can patent game play in the USA. Wizards of the Coast used to have a patent on turning a card 90 degrees. It has expired.
Considering Yu-Gi-Oh had that mechanic for monsters in defensive position, that must have expired at least 2 decades ago. Unless Yu-Gi-Oh's implementation was different enough that WotC's patent didn't apply.
Yeah it was different. The patent wasn't for a defensive position, more like when a card was was used up
Then it's going nowhere, since ''their gameplay mechanic is too similar'' is a horrible argument. And it if got anywhere, it would be devastating for games development. ( A good game mechanic could be stuck forever in a shitty game. Case in point ; new Pokémon games have become pretty shitty. ).
Case law already allows game systems to be patented unfortunately. See the Nemesis system. Where Nintendo should lose here is that Palworld isn't the first copycat. If they didn't go after everyone they can't go after anyone.
That's generally reserved for trademark infringement.
Nintendo waited until they made a bunch of money before suing.
The 'Pokemon Company's should sue itself for patent infringement. No one in their right could believe the real rights owners would legitimately release such poor quality games without thinking they're cheap knockoffs.
Yep. Can't compete to they're going the lawfare route. A pox on both their lame companies.
Are they gonna sue the creators of Dragon Quest or Shin Megami Tensai too?
Or could they sue Nintendo since they came up with the whole monster battler idea first?
I hope nintendont gets raked over the coals in this. They are a piece of shit company and palworld made their own original IP. Nintendont can't copyright the concept of capturing monsters to use in battle. So get fucked, you retarded scumbag console company.
The Pokemon Company and the US patent system are fucking insane. Patent trolling is so advanced that The Pokemon Company applied for a patent in 2023 on the concept of multiplayer games and fucking got it
This shit is ridiculous.
I rather take my chances with a pager than walk in that desert again!