You can see how much "diversity" it has. The 1st game also had ugly characters as well, so I fully expected it to get even worse. You can say what you will about the gameplay, but the art design and story has been leaning that way from the start.
its a humiliation ritual where they intentionally put in things that normal people find repulsive and the gay commies and women have been brainwashed into thinking is positive
they see a gross characters that "own the chuds" and get a little hate boner which is why they praise it
On the one hand, it's further looting and degradation of European culture. On the other, I can wholly believe that is, and will forever be a virgin goddess.
It seems like they're leaning a lot harder on being queer-friendly but nobody actually knows if that's just games journalists being games journalists or not. The game being based on ancient Greek gods gives them a lot of space to work with in that arena.
I liked the first game and the leftists were still doing nonstop bullshit discussions about Zagreus being bisexual and being in poly relationships.
The left can't stop queering random characters in video games.
Hades 2 has very good reviews on steam but it is hard to determine how woke the game is. I see it has a few dogshit designs but is that the full extent?
Is the entire game fully globalhomo agitprop?
I cannot determine that atm.
Well its a Greece set game. The fact that the gay option is incredibly difficult to achieve compared to how super easy it is to get the hetero is the least realistic thing about it.
I'm sure there might've been some weird subcultural communities here and there, just based on some of the weird and obscure experimental-type philosophers and the some of the quirky regional cults here and there.
Ancient Greek culture and Greek peoples as a whole though were nowhere near as degenerate as modern Hollywood and Academia have been trying to paint things. The oddball examples I'm thinking of were pretty rare exceptions, that usually had pretty small (if any) followings.
Plus I think most of the quirky examples weren't degenerate so much as whimsical. And I'm being vague here because I have no particular recollection of any of the names I'd come across, and it's a rather long list to go through.
Edit: Correction, brain's out of it right now. Totally forgot about the colorful details throughout Greek mythology. Even so, it's one thing to come up with weird and grotesque stories, and quite another to actually practice them.
I could believe its gayness is overstated and almost certainly is.
Claiming at all as if decadent civilizations don't constantly resort to degeneracy is just as naive. The fact that they have half a dozen words for it shows that it clearly existed, and they had plenty of shame around it.
This is such a weird fetish for them to start gushing over -- every time some woke game pops up there is a character with vitiligo in it, or it's added to the character creation. It just makes me hate Leftists and the normies who support them even more.
In a couple of years I imagine normies will start defending vitiligo in games the way they do fugly females, race-swaps and faggots.
Gaming journalists does a lot to hurt a game imo.. anything they praise is dog shit and if its not, it feels like it. Its like if wearing your hat backwards is cool, but then your parents start wearing their hats backwards. Now its no longer cool. Similar feeling.
They ruin it. Like if they try to claim a char as tranny coded.. well that game is tainted and i wouldnt touch it.
What's annoying is the people that then go on to say shit like "but you're denying yourself a good game" and it's just so weird because my response is almost always "and?". And they can't comprehend that you're fine with passing up on a good game.
There are so many good games out there, why do I need to spend time with this specific one? Because you were dumb enough to part ways with your money for a pozzed game that's not as terrible as other pozzed trash? Need to convince others to share in your bad spending habits? Somehow they see it as some kind of loss that you play one of your other games, and probably one that's in your backlog, than mindlessly shill for [CURRENT PRODUCT].
Hades 2 is probably fine. If I played it, I would probably enjoy it. But I lose nothing by not playing it and not supporting the media narrative surrounding it regarding "muh representation", nor supporting the idea of pushing this historical/mythical revisionism. I lose nothing by spending that time on another game that I know I'll enjoy, either by replaying or going through my backlog. I lose nothing by not playing this game and spending time doing literally anything else either.
This could be the best game I play this year, and I'd still lose nothing by not playing it. And there are people out there who cannot comprehend that.
Same here. Unfortunately, people like you and me are in the vast minority. As the HD2 fiasco shows, gamers are always looking to throw their money at companies that hate them just to be a part of current popular thing. They are worse than tween girls when it comes to FOMO.
"We pwned them guyz! Arrowhead and Soyny are giving us just the tip now. Who wants to kill some bugs with me?"
Fucking pathetic. They deserve the current industry. They have been voting for it with their dollars for decades.
Thanks to the Mary Sue's taking over everywhere, I can't play any games with female protagonists and especially not in any physically active role where they are "amazingly better". Last time was the TR remake with the controversy that Lara was 'raped'. No kidding she's weaker. Doing the stealth/distance/careful gameplay actually made sense.
Nowadays rather get frustrated dying 30x to a nightmare boss in a DarkSouls/like, because git gud beats the git woke, no matter how many times "it's only the tip, not the whole thing up your ass" is said.
Not to mention the Hades loop is mind numbingly RNG. Must be what waking up every day troon is like.
Mobile gacha mechanics with time sinks being the favorite method of 'gaming'.
I mean the only way a 'speed run' even makes sense, is if you find playing the game is too much of a chore so you want to end it sooner.
Who wants to be constructive in your approach when gambling and loopholes reward you better. I suppose in hindsight games imitating life isn't anything to be shocked about, till you realize that's exactly why you want an escape from reality.
The classics are good but the series is already tainted... That's like playing mass effect 1&2 when you know 3 and beyond are going to be pozzed
Sony could've just rebooted the series but they deliberately choose to re-write Kratos instead
And to me it pretty much killed the franchise... Sometimes its better for a franchise to end while the going is good (God of war 3) than to see it become another interactive movie soy franchise
Seconded; Achilles: Legends Untold is an amazingly good game.
If you want a masculine game with zero faggotry (did all of the side-quests and the game is safe), and focuses on a hero that is actually a hero without being undermined by feminist traits or globohomo storytelling, then Achilles: Legends Untold is well worth a buy.
Also, huge props to the devs for making a proper combat system with parry, dodge, roll and blocks -- and actually having a proper blocking system that is extremely useful. Too many games like taking the Dark Souls route where blocking still takes a large chunk of your life, but in Achilles: Legends Untold it can actually absorb all the damage (depending on the shield and how upgraded it is).
Had a ton of fun playing it and it's one of the few games where you don't actually want it to end.
Its a shame the game was pretty short (only 3 acts, each taking about a few hours to complete)
But doing a 100% run of the game will likely take you around 16-20 hours max, i did all the challenge rifts, all the side quests and collected and upgraded a decent arsenal of weapons
My biggest gripe with the game is how beating Paris on the prologue doesn't change the story, you just get a rare achievement and the game begins the same way, also no special reward for beating the game deathless (which is what i accomplished on my first run)
But what can you expect from a small Polish team, hopefully their next game is going to be bigger, better and with alternate endings for those purists who seek the ultimate challenge (like in dark souls 2 where doing a deathless run nets you a pretty good ring for PvP)
Same here. The dialogue/story was cringey, the gameplay was decent but nothing special and the progression system very quickly started to feel like a chore.
Not to mention the copious amounts of degeneracy, girlbosses and race swaps.
the faggotry, the anti father's authority theme, the female characters being snarky and disrespecting the male characters and the male characters portrayed as dumb enough to not realize it
gameplay wise it was great and I don't mind grindy games if the gameplay feels good and there is at a bit of progression to reward me
If it is anything like the first game you want to let it cook for a minimum of 6 more months, preferably a year, until it is feature complete.
The first game was glommed on to by the tumblr crowd so this one will be even gayer, but if it is mechanically like the first one you the story will be mercifully short and mostly skippable.
I'm enjoying it. It claims to have about the same content as vanilla Hades did, and so far it seems so. Having played the EA of that one, I found that they held off the release of it into EA until it was plenty feature heavy to begin with and just need more time to adjust and wrap up (as EA should).
The combat is more complicated, and I'm not sure if its just the first weapon that suffers from that or an overall. Separating Sprint and Dash I don't really like, but considering Divine Dash was basically a required Boon in the first to the point that people barely touched any other I can guess why. Either way, I find myself having a lot more tools to deal with problems even completely naked relative to the first. The fact that you can only bring one "tool" per run is a bad decision that increases the grind unnecessarily that I'm sure will be at the top of the change list.
As for the wokeness, its probably worse than the first. I wasn't on the train that thought the first really was to begin with, and I know that's against the common narrative here, but now you've got whatever the fuck Haphaestus has going on and the entire theme being more "witchy" instead of regal.
Supergiant has always been that flavor of "mildly woke" though even before it was popular, so it reads far less malicious and more basic Lefty foundation. Bastion has super racism as its main theme, Transistor had the main antagonists be a lesbo, a married homo couple, and a super autist, and Pyre was clearly meant to attract blacks considering it was a literal Basketball Game.
All in all, if you liked the first one this is clearly just Hades + more. And the fanbase will continue to be insufferable, though probably grow less so as the base has less hot guys for them to obsess over and now its all women clearly meant to waifu (abs girl, tall girl, tomboy girl, gyaru type).
I won't lie, its not quite as good as Hades 1 at the moment.
Enemy armor/boss health is way too high, meaning battles drag on for way longer than they should and the chip damage adds up a lot. I had a hammer upgrade that just straight deletes armor and it was the only time I felt closer to the original's combat. Few boons give outright % increases to damage like they used to, which seems to be where the issue is. Instead they have pretty neat effects that give great synergy and make it quite fun to use, but it continues to lack actual punch to kill things.
There is also a lot more grind baked in, which is probably because the original had nearly 0 on release and people ran out of content quick (which is why the big Darkness Dump title guy was patched in). But some of it feels like its an EA thing meant to drag out the content while they finish the later stages.
And having put more time into it, it continues to be more and less woke at the same times. A handful more Gods have darker skin, but lack the facial structures to actually appear black so its in a strange limbo of not being fully black but also being a bit beyond just swarthy Mediterraneans. The only one who goes full black is a straight up Aunt Mammy, which is also hilarious.
Honestly, I'd give it a major update or so before I think its worth the price. Mostly just to fix the health issue because it makes the game feel way harder than it should from the outset.
Based on having played Hades 1 in its Early Access release and then on vanilla, I'm fairly confident it will be fixed because both are easily solved and immediately obvious to anyone from the outset. If not, it'll be laughably easy to mod regardless.
It will be shit. Because all the people around me who are big supporters of lgbt and all that shit, are hyping themselves up for this game in particular
You can see how much "diversity" it has. The 1st game also had ugly characters as well, so I fully expected it to get even worse. You can say what you will about the gameplay, but the art design and story has been leaning that way from the start.
oh wow, a fat mutant and an asian twink
its a humiliation ritual where they intentionally put in things that normal people find repulsive and the gay commies and women have been brainwashed into thinking is positive
they see a gross characters that "own the chuds" and get a little hate boner which is why they praise it
On the one hand, it's further looting and degradation of European culture. On the other, I can wholly believe that is, and will forever be a virgin goddess.
The first game had a few shitty designs but as far as I can remember the actual game was fun and the story was not heavily pozzed.
This vitiligo fat Black grandma Hestia design looks like dogshit but is that the extent of the globalhomo?
It seems like they're leaning a lot harder on being queer-friendly but nobody actually knows if that's just games journalists being games journalists or not. The game being based on ancient Greek gods gives them a lot of space to work with in that arena.
I liked the first game and the leftists were still doing nonstop bullshit discussions about Zagreus being bisexual and being in poly relationships.
The left can't stop queering random characters in video games.
Hades 2 has very good reviews on steam but it is hard to determine how woke the game is. I see it has a few dogshit designs but is that the full extent?
Is the entire game fully globalhomo agitprop? I cannot determine that atm.
the first game had a homo "romance" option and had getting homos together as a major sidequest, and the normal romance is degenerate female domination
I never did the romance options.
I just played the main story and got the complete ending.
"degen femdom bullshit"
Sounds like my kind of game! Gonna pick it up.
Well its a Greece set game. The fact that the gay option is incredibly difficult to achieve compared to how super easy it is to get the hetero is the least realistic thing about it.
You were psyopped
Ancient Greece wasn't gay at all https://youtu.be/GbOKIsMuNWU?si=XVnj0Vv-spb9wt_J
I'm sure there might've been some weird subcultural communities here and there, just based on some of the weird and obscure experimental-type philosophers and the some of the quirky regional cults here and there.
Ancient Greek culture and Greek peoples as a whole though were nowhere near as degenerate as modern Hollywood and Academia have been trying to paint things. The oddball examples I'm thinking of were pretty rare exceptions, that usually had pretty small (if any) followings.
Plus I think most of the quirky examples weren't degenerate so much as whimsical. And I'm being vague here because I have no particular recollection of any of the names I'd come across, and it's a rather long list to go through.
Edit: Correction, brain's out of it right now. Totally forgot about the colorful details throughout Greek mythology. Even so, it's one thing to come up with weird and grotesque stories, and quite another to actually practice them.
I could believe its gayness is overstated and almost certainly is.
Claiming at all as if decadent civilizations don't constantly resort to degeneracy is just as naive. The fact that they have half a dozen words for it shows that it clearly existed, and they had plenty of shame around it.
Is vitiligo even that common? I swear, aliens would assume a quarter of humanity had it if they played our shitty games.
This is such a weird fetish for them to start gushing over -- every time some woke game pops up there is a character with vitiligo in it, or it's added to the character creation. It just makes me hate Leftists and the normies who support them even more.
In a couple of years I imagine normies will start defending vitiligo in games the way they do fugly females, race-swaps and faggots.
any is too much
Gaming journalists does a lot to hurt a game imo.. anything they praise is dog shit and if its not, it feels like it. Its like if wearing your hat backwards is cool, but then your parents start wearing their hats backwards. Now its no longer cool. Similar feeling.
They ruin it. Like if they try to claim a char as tranny coded.. well that game is tainted and i wouldnt touch it.
What's annoying is the people that then go on to say shit like "but you're denying yourself a good game" and it's just so weird because my response is almost always "and?". And they can't comprehend that you're fine with passing up on a good game.
There are so many good games out there, why do I need to spend time with this specific one? Because you were dumb enough to part ways with your money for a pozzed game that's not as terrible as other pozzed trash? Need to convince others to share in your bad spending habits? Somehow they see it as some kind of loss that you play one of your other games, and probably one that's in your backlog, than mindlessly shill for [CURRENT PRODUCT].
Hades 2 is probably fine. If I played it, I would probably enjoy it. But I lose nothing by not playing it and not supporting the media narrative surrounding it regarding "muh representation", nor supporting the idea of pushing this historical/mythical revisionism. I lose nothing by spending that time on another game that I know I'll enjoy, either by replaying or going through my backlog. I lose nothing by not playing this game and spending time doing literally anything else either.
This could be the best game I play this year, and I'd still lose nothing by not playing it. And there are people out there who cannot comprehend that.
The first I heard of it was game journos praising it for being safe-horny. It definitely biased me against it.
That's an automatic no buy.
The fact that its big testing play and reveal happened right in the center of the Stellar Blade lead up did it no favors.
Because that's where all of those articles were coming from, attempts to attack or prop up Stellar Blade by showing the "acceptable" horny levels.
Same here. Unfortunately, people like you and me are in the vast minority. As the HD2 fiasco shows, gamers are always looking to throw their money at companies that hate them just to be a part of current popular thing. They are worse than tween girls when it comes to FOMO.
"We pwned them guyz! Arrowhead and Soyny are giving us just the tip now. Who wants to kill some bugs with me?"
Fucking pathetic. They deserve the current industry. They have been voting for it with their dollars for decades.
Thanks to the Mary Sue's taking over everywhere, I can't play any games with female protagonists and especially not in any physically active role where they are "amazingly better". Last time was the TR remake with the controversy that Lara was 'raped'. No kidding she's weaker. Doing the stealth/distance/careful gameplay actually made sense.
Nowadays rather get frustrated dying 30x to a nightmare boss in a DarkSouls/like, because git gud beats the git woke, no matter how many times "it's only the tip, not the whole thing up your ass" is said.
Not to mention the Hades loop is mind numbingly RNG. Must be what waking up every day troon is like.
Agreed. For some reason these people think that "sassy, insufferable bitch" is synonymous with "badass".
Mobile gacha mechanics with time sinks being the favorite method of 'gaming'. I mean the only way a 'speed run' even makes sense, is if you find playing the game is too much of a chore so you want to end it sooner.
Who wants to be constructive in your approach when gambling and loopholes reward you better. I suppose in hindsight games imitating life isn't anything to be shocked about, till you realize that's exactly why you want an escape from reality.
random number generator?
Yes. He could have used a completely different word - like "randomized" - and basically communicate the same thing.
And here I thought I was on a video gaming forum.
Its mega gay, just like the first
If you want a decent mythology game try out the Achilles game
Or the old God of War games. Not really all that historically accurate, but ridiculously fun and zero woke degeneracy.
The classics are good but the series is already tainted... That's like playing mass effect 1&2 when you know 3 and beyond are going to be pozzed
Sony could've just rebooted the series but they deliberately choose to re-write Kratos instead
And to me it pretty much killed the franchise... Sometimes its better for a franchise to end while the going is good (God of war 3) than to see it become another interactive movie soy franchise
Seconded; Achilles: Legends Untold is an amazingly good game.
If you want a masculine game with zero faggotry (did all of the side-quests and the game is safe), and focuses on a hero that is actually a hero without being undermined by feminist traits or globohomo storytelling, then Achilles: Legends Untold is well worth a buy.
Also, huge props to the devs for making a proper combat system with parry, dodge, roll and blocks -- and actually having a proper blocking system that is extremely useful. Too many games like taking the Dark Souls route where blocking still takes a large chunk of your life, but in Achilles: Legends Untold it can actually absorb all the damage (depending on the shield and how upgraded it is).
Had a ton of fun playing it and it's one of the few games where you don't actually want it to end.
Yup the devs knew what they were doing
Its a shame the game was pretty short (only 3 acts, each taking about a few hours to complete)
But doing a 100% run of the game will likely take you around 16-20 hours max, i did all the challenge rifts, all the side quests and collected and upgraded a decent arsenal of weapons
My biggest gripe with the game is how beating Paris on the prologue doesn't change the story, you just get a rare achievement and the game begins the same way, also no special reward for beating the game deathless (which is what i accomplished on my first run)
But what can you expect from a small Polish team, hopefully their next game is going to be bigger, better and with alternate endings for those purists who seek the ultimate challenge (like in dark souls 2 where doing a deathless run nets you a pretty good ring for PvP)
I didn't really enjoy the first game enough to play a 2nd one
Same here. The dialogue/story was cringey, the gameplay was decent but nothing special and the progression system very quickly started to feel like a chore.
Not to mention the copious amounts of degeneracy, girlbosses and race swaps.
Fair enough take.
Just curious can you say what you did not like about the first game?
the faggotry, the anti father's authority theme, the female characters being snarky and disrespecting the male characters and the male characters portrayed as dumb enough to not realize it
gameplay wise it was great and I don't mind grindy games if the gameplay feels good and there is at a bit of progression to reward me
The grind. I didnt think it was fun enough to keep playing to get the ending even if i did get it in the end
I'm not touching it.
It has Kotaku all over it, giving it praise.
If it wants to hang about with folks like that - that's its business.
Not mine though!
I don't know about the game specifically, but you don't get a Netflix deal, or participate in PAX and GDC, by having the "wrong" politics.
Some people draw a line between the content and the people profiting from it, but in case you don't.
Looks like gay trash. And it's early access, so it's unfinished gay trash that will just get gayer as development progresses. Find a better game.
Early access is marketing speak for unfinished.
If it is anything like the first game you want to let it cook for a minimum of 6 more months, preferably a year, until it is feature complete.
The first game was glommed on to by the tumblr crowd so this one will be even gayer, but if it is mechanically like the first one you the story will be mercifully short and mostly skippable.
I'm enjoying it. It claims to have about the same content as vanilla Hades did, and so far it seems so. Having played the EA of that one, I found that they held off the release of it into EA until it was plenty feature heavy to begin with and just need more time to adjust and wrap up (as EA should).
The combat is more complicated, and I'm not sure if its just the first weapon that suffers from that or an overall. Separating Sprint and Dash I don't really like, but considering Divine Dash was basically a required Boon in the first to the point that people barely touched any other I can guess why. Either way, I find myself having a lot more tools to deal with problems even completely naked relative to the first. The fact that you can only bring one "tool" per run is a bad decision that increases the grind unnecessarily that I'm sure will be at the top of the change list.
As for the wokeness, its probably worse than the first. I wasn't on the train that thought the first really was to begin with, and I know that's against the common narrative here, but now you've got whatever the fuck Haphaestus has going on and the entire theme being more "witchy" instead of regal.
Supergiant has always been that flavor of "mildly woke" though even before it was popular, so it reads far less malicious and more basic Lefty foundation. Bastion has super racism as its main theme, Transistor had the main antagonists be a lesbo, a married homo couple, and a super autist, and Pyre was clearly meant to attract blacks considering it was a literal Basketball Game.
All in all, if you liked the first one this is clearly just Hades + more. And the fanbase will continue to be insufferable, though probably grow less so as the base has less hot guys for them to obsess over and now its all women clearly meant to waifu (abs girl, tall girl, tomboy girl, gyaru type).
Thanks for your write-up.
You are the only one here who is giving impressions after playing it for themselves.
I will pick it up.
I really liked Hades 1 a lot.
So you were looking for permission to buy a gay leftist game, and someone gave it to you.
Nope I wanted to hear about impressions from people here who have actually played the game.
Whether I get something or not is always going to be something I decide for myself.
I won't lie, its not quite as good as Hades 1 at the moment.
Enemy armor/boss health is way too high, meaning battles drag on for way longer than they should and the chip damage adds up a lot. I had a hammer upgrade that just straight deletes armor and it was the only time I felt closer to the original's combat. Few boons give outright % increases to damage like they used to, which seems to be where the issue is. Instead they have pretty neat effects that give great synergy and make it quite fun to use, but it continues to lack actual punch to kill things.
There is also a lot more grind baked in, which is probably because the original had nearly 0 on release and people ran out of content quick (which is why the big Darkness Dump title guy was patched in). But some of it feels like its an EA thing meant to drag out the content while they finish the later stages.
And having put more time into it, it continues to be more and less woke at the same times. A handful more Gods have darker skin, but lack the facial structures to actually appear black so its in a strange limbo of not being fully black but also being a bit beyond just swarthy Mediterraneans. The only one who goes full black is a straight up Aunt Mammy, which is also hilarious.
Honestly, I'd give it a major update or so before I think its worth the price. Mostly just to fix the health issue because it makes the game feel way harder than it should from the outset.
I saw some extended gameplay and I agree with you.
Boss health is too much and the grindy aspects seem worse in this.
I opted not to buy it at this time.
I will see if the final release is any better.
Based on having played Hades 1 in its Early Access release and then on vanilla, I'm fairly confident it will be fixed because both are easily solved and immediately obvious to anyone from the outset. If not, it'll be laughably easy to mod regardless.
It will be shit. Because all the people around me who are big supporters of lgbt and all that shit, are hyping themselves up for this game in particular
I watched some extended gameplay from a streamer.
My biggest complaint in what I seen is that the bosses really are annoyingly hp sponges in this game. It takes forever to kill some of them.
From what I seen, Hades 1 is superior in terms of gameplay atm.
I will wait and see how the final release is.