There is an old Chinese proverb about a General who is marching his army to meet up with the rest of the armies of the empire. They get bogged down in muddy conditions and start running late. The General asks his lieutenant "What is the penalty for being late?", and he answers "Death." The General then asks "What is the penalty for rebellion?", and the lieutenant answers "Death" again. Finally, the General says "Rebellion it is then!"
I hope everyone is paying attention to these show trials and realizes that there can be no half-measures with these people. If you are in for a penny, you are in for a pound.
They'll end up dead to a no-knock raid at 4:00 AM.
The only way this changes if the neighbors of those individuals say, "no, this is not happening in my neighborhood."
And they'll probably end up dead as well, but it'll at least make the coward feds think twice next time. As it is, they murder sleeping people with nearly zero risk to themselves and suffer no legal consequences for it whatsoever.
The government is capable of applying high intensity force, but doesn't have the manpower to apply it in high quantity across numerous locations. The people far, far outnumber government forces.
This is why they brainwash people (even on the right) into thinking they don't have a chance in fighting the government. It's also why they brainwash the right (people most likely to resist the government, and mostly made up of White people) to never, ever collectivize, so we don't protect each other. Atomized individuals are really easy to dominate. It's also why they brainwash the right that violence is always wrong (the "fed" and "glowie" memes).
It's all a controlling tactic to keep peoppe peaceful and subjugated. The people in power know that if we collectivize and fight back, we win. Everything else is a half measure doomed to failure, because the people in power control almost all institutions capable of solving our problems peacefully.
Cynic that I am, I don't think very many. Hoping I am wrong, but let's not forget how many people have tried to move on and pretend the COVID lockdowns, and all the shenanigans within never happened. Look at all the documentaries or news reports where someone gets attacked by an animal or a black/ immigrant/ black immigrant and the response is always the same "I don't wish any harm, he was a good boy, he didn't do nothing."
Also, the story above has something we do not. Leadership, and a rival military elite. We don't have a Napoleon/ Caesar/ king/ strong man, at least not yet.
Some of us were saying that before J6, predicting that it would be Charlottesville all over again. Unfortunately, those warnings were consistently voted to the bottom of threads where most people wouldn't see them.
Well, you were correct, but now people call any protest a 'fed action'. Basically, the right has surrendered its right to protest out of fear of fed shenanigans.
I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but that is one way to take away people's rights.
Fear of protesting would be fine if people were willing to do anything instead of protesting. But no everyone just sits at home with their thumbs up their butts and does nothing (me included).
It's also very difficult to convince conservatives to organise. We are disagreeable and individualistic by nature. That's why there's always so much back biting.
The problem is that the power only exists in the collective, but people will be targeted, taken down and ruined as individuals. Things would be very different if said collective acted in unison, but that isn't the case right now and any efforts to organize a change to that state of affairs are monitored and infiltrated accordingly.
I get what you're saying, but rooftop action is defensive in nature. We've been "holding the line" and losing for decades. We must fight back aggressively, regain ground, and kick out the offending parties. You don't win wars by sitting in your fort.
I remember I was still active on the donald or patriots or whatever it was called then. I tried to tell people, you want to go to this, fine. You need a plan of ingress that involves covering tracks. No cellphones, period. No social media posts. Don’t tell anyone you were ever there. Multiple exit strategies. Even then many of those would have gotten caught via facial recognition. Instead I see, “yay I booked my hotel right there on the Capitol mall, got my flight for that morning!”. Social media posts “So happy to be here inside the Capitol to support my favorite President! #lovetrump They can’t steal this from us!”.
Even so, it would have been as waste of time as it never seemed like there was a path to changing anyone’s minds on the election outcome.
I wouldn't have high hopes for that. Trump threw those people under the bus. He could've pardoned them before he left office in 2020. I don't follow his social media any more, but from what I've seen (please correct me if wrong), he's made very few statements in defense of the J6 political prisoners, and applied zero political pressure to get those people released.
The city seat of all federal power is 95% leftist and 4.9% uniparty RINO. How is this not proof of a captured government that no longer represents at least half the population?
There is an old Chinese proverb about a General who is marching his army to meet up with the rest of the armies of the empire. They get bogged down in muddy conditions and start running late. The General asks his lieutenant "What is the penalty for being late?", and he answers "Death." The General then asks "What is the penalty for rebellion?", and the lieutenant answers "Death" again. Finally, the General says "Rebellion it is then!"
I hope everyone is paying attention to these show trials and realizes that there can be no half-measures with these people. If you are in for a penny, you are in for a pound.
That was my take away as well. I wonder how many of those defendents regret not bringing weapons and taking some scalps in hindsight.
Eventually, inevitably, someone is going to decide there's no point letting them take him alive when the feds come knocking.
They'll end up dead to a no-knock raid at 4:00 AM.
The only way this changes if the neighbors of those individuals say, "no, this is not happening in my neighborhood."
And they'll probably end up dead as well, but it'll at least make the coward feds think twice next time. As it is, they murder sleeping people with nearly zero risk to themselves and suffer no legal consequences for it whatsoever.
The government is capable of applying high intensity force, but doesn't have the manpower to apply it in high quantity across numerous locations. The people far, far outnumber government forces.
This is why they brainwash people (even on the right) into thinking they don't have a chance in fighting the government. It's also why they brainwash the right (people most likely to resist the government, and mostly made up of White people) to never, ever collectivize, so we don't protect each other. Atomized individuals are really easy to dominate. It's also why they brainwash the right that violence is always wrong (the "fed" and "glowie" memes).
It's all a controlling tactic to keep peoppe peaceful and subjugated. The people in power know that if we collectivize and fight back, we win. Everything else is a half measure doomed to failure, because the people in power control almost all institutions capable of solving our problems peacefully.
Cynic that I am, I don't think very many. Hoping I am wrong, but let's not forget how many people have tried to move on and pretend the COVID lockdowns, and all the shenanigans within never happened. Look at all the documentaries or news reports where someone gets attacked by an animal or a black/ immigrant/ black immigrant and the response is always the same "I don't wish any harm, he was a good boy, he didn't do nothing."
Also, the story above has something we do not. Leadership, and a rival military elite. We don't have a Napoleon/ Caesar/ king/ strong man, at least not yet.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4Ui8BdIYRk&pp=ygUac2VsZiBkZWZlbnNlIHNpdHVhdGlvbiBtZGU%3D
I was listening to Matt Christiansen and he read out this sentence :
"She would have been the first person in a jury trial to be acquitted of charges related to Jan. 6 if Lavrenz had not been found guilty. "
So this means NO Trump supporter hounded by the DOJ is ever acquitted by a DC jury.
D.C. is enemy occupied.
No Trump supporter will get a fair trial in that area.
Sad reality.
Some of us were saying that before J6, predicting that it would be Charlottesville all over again. Unfortunately, those warnings were consistently voted to the bottom of threads where most people wouldn't see them.
Well, you were correct, but now people call any protest a 'fed action'. Basically, the right has surrendered its right to protest out of fear of fed shenanigans.
I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but that is one way to take away people's rights.
Fear of protesting would be fine if people were willing to do anything instead of protesting. But no everyone just sits at home with their thumbs up their butts and does nothing (me included).
When they moved 1 cm from their ass, like with Budweiser, things happened.
People do not realize their own power. And there's a collective action problem.
It's also very difficult to convince conservatives to organise. We are disagreeable and individualistic by nature. That's why there's always so much back biting.
To be fair that’s been the goal of the federal government since the 1800’s
The problem is that the power only exists in the collective, but people will be targeted, taken down and ruined as individuals. Things would be very different if said collective acted in unison, but that isn't the case right now and any efforts to organize a change to that state of affairs are monitored and infiltrated accordingly.
It'll change when you are starving. Then you'll do something.
-similar dude here
Don't think they would let it get to that point. You are running a real risk of consequences if you can't manage the food resources.
Well past time to vote from the rooftops.
I get what you're saying, but rooftop action is defensive in nature. We've been "holding the line" and losing for decades. We must fight back aggressively, regain ground, and kick out the offending parties. You don't win wars by sitting in your fort.
I remember I was still active on the donald or patriots or whatever it was called then. I tried to tell people, you want to go to this, fine. You need a plan of ingress that involves covering tracks. No cellphones, period. No social media posts. Don’t tell anyone you were ever there. Multiple exit strategies. Even then many of those would have gotten caught via facial recognition. Instead I see, “yay I booked my hotel right there on the Capitol mall, got my flight for that morning!”. Social media posts “So happy to be here inside the Capitol to support my favorite President! #lovetrump They can’t steal this from us!”.
Even so, it would have been as waste of time as it never seemed like there was a path to changing anyone’s minds on the election outcome.
If anything people should band together and show the courts what a REAL January 6th would be. Then maybe the judges will realize their mistake
If only you knew how bad things were...
It's not [insert literally anything] when WE do it.
Show trial outcomes are predetermined.
The fed's conviction rate is extremely high. They will use every dirty trick and every immoral act to get convictions
I wouldn't have high hopes for that. Trump threw those people under the bus. He could've pardoned them before he left office in 2020. I don't follow his social media any more, but from what I've seen (please correct me if wrong), he's made very few statements in defense of the J6 political prisoners, and applied zero political pressure to get those people released.
Every movement needs its martyrs. Every Holodomor has its body pit. Every revolution has its Alamo. Remember.
DC is a company town. You're not going to find anyone that's going to go against the corrupt DOJ on those juries.
I'm a bit amazed that nobody has been able to push through a change of venue so they can get a fair trial.
The city seat of all federal power is 95% leftist and 4.9% uniparty RINO. How is this not proof of a captured government that no longer represents at least half the population?
Reminder that this shithole isn't satisfied with just Electoral College votes; DC wants to be a state, with its own reps and senators.
I HATE RIGGERS! DIRTY, STANKIN', LAZY, NOOOO GOOD RIGGERS!
IIRC, some have had their charges thrown out by judges.
Why opt for a jury trial in DC? Wouldn't a judge have to at least try to make it look like he's following the law in his decision?
You mean like the NY judge who summarily declared Trump guilty of fraud without hearing any witnesses or asking anyone any questions?