Maybe a dumb question- How will they replace Biden?
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Trying to run Clinton again would be an interesting choice. They'd have to "fortify" the fuck out of the election to a degree that I can hardly imagine. I wouldn't be surprised if they have plans to execute Trump, but I don't know how bad things will have to be before they actually act on them.
Use your head. They could assassinate Trump at any time. They can’t do it because it would 100% trigger civil war. They almost certainly have simulations showing them the probabilities, and I guarantee you “kill Trump = war” is on the white board.
I dunno who they’re going to nominate. If it’s anyone non-white, they’ll lose people. If it’s a man, they’ll lose people. The smart money is probably on Michael.
You're downplaying it. They have to keep Trump healthy.
If he even dies of natural causes there's a good chance of civil war because most people will assume the CIA just made it look like natural causes.
How are they going to do that? Smuggle celery into his food? Lol
in the grand scheme of things, nothing would happen because people are still too comfortable. maybe you'll see a couple of IRA style bombings, both real and false flag, but that's about it.
Problem is, if it does come to actual IRA-style bombings in the U.S., and they happen at the same rate per capita that they happened in Northern Ireland, you're looking at 35,000-40,000+ deaths a year.
oh totally, it would not be good.
For decades he has clung to power and fucked everything up (“never underestimate Joe’s ability to fuck everything up” - Obama)
How can they convince a guy like that to step aside? He’s acting only to enrich his family.
A few at least potential misconceptions there. Joe's a corrupt piece of shit, but I'm not sure how much actual power he has at present...other than knowing it's exaggerated.
Plus, even if they couldn't force the demented old man to step aside, as you say, they're priming the pump that he's unwell now. They could literally just kill him at this point. It would be super easy for the establishment to replace Biden.
They don't have to force him to step aside. All they need is one [paid-for] doctor to declare him unfit.
Convince? Didn't he publicly talk about stepping aside for Kamala not long after his initial installation as el presidente? I honestly don't remember, he's had so many gaffes its hard to keep track.
Yes not in so many words but basically he said that when they're tired of him he'll develop an illness and step down. I don't know why people think he's doing any of this on his own. He's a puppet. They don't need a coordinated attack.
Maybe you know him better than we do Natalie, but what the fuck? He would do anything anyone said to him he seems like he is barely awake most every time I see him speak. I imagine they get one of his little kid sex dolls and put it in a doorway and he just follows it around, I really don't think he will have to be 'convinced' of anything.
You know I do think that could be a possibility, it could be half routine half his actual dementia but we will likely never really know.
he doesn't make any decisions. he does what he is told. Blinken is probably the guy in the white house making the decisions - based on what the money says of course
They don't have anyone that can run against Trump and get any sort of traction. They're all mired in their own situations and issues.
Hail Mary we need a person theory:
They actually let Bernie run.
That's right, mister no refunds himself.
He's shown that he's basically bought and paid for. And he's slightly more competent than the current guy. And he was able to bring crowds and unite a big chunk of democrats, except for when black people were grabbing the mic and shutting him out of his own events.
So yeah, perfect. Subservient and docile. The perfect storm to be able to push around from behind the scenes like they're doing for Biden.
However, do I think he has a chance? No. He's burnt too many bridges too. But I can't think of anyone better.
Bernie is older than Biden. Plus I’m not sure even he is in very good health.
Comrade Sanders is older than Biden, but I haven't seen anything indicating that old pinko has dementia either. I also wouldn't expect them to admit to it, even if he did. They sure as hell won't outright tell you that puppets like Biden or Fetterman have the mental capacity of a twice baked potato.
Judging from what happened in Hawaii, they'll just declare they're ignoring the 22nd Amendment as well and nominate Obama for a 4th term (he's pretty clearly shadow president right now and I don't just mean the dark color of his skin)
Is she even old enough to run?
"Here's how Bernie can still win this!"
Responding to the tweet: The man was an embarrassment for a long time already. Why would they change course now when it's (theoretically) getting late?
As for the how... it's easy to remove Biden. They can cancel him with almost anything. The biggest question is who would be on the ballot in November? I don't think that Newsom, Harris, or Killary could win in 24. The current primary challengers are nobodies. Is there any widely recognizable democrat politician who isn't also terribly polarizing?
The conspiracy theory is Michelle Obama on this one.
That was an interesting one but I heard she is done with the limelight and politics. She has her millions now and just wants to relax in martha's vineyard.
I agree, Democrats will never replace Biden for 2024. This is just a news cycle and come October/November, the media will be back in force to report Orange Man Bad. No matter how bad Biden looks, they think he will beat Trump because he did it before.
And even if Biden loses, they can probably screw up the economy bad enough to make Trump look bad for his term (and Israel will get support no matter what so the leaders probably don't care). In 2028 they will try Newsom, Harris, Whitmer, or some other.
Gavin Newsom vs DeSantis debate and Newsom saying he is loyal to Biden makes me think he is at least considering. Bill Maher endorsed him. It felt like a "look at me" "look at me" in order to get support from the establishment.
Hillary is another solid option, she has the advantage that she will fire up the anti-Trump people, revenge of sorts. But I've not seen anyone seriously pushing her, maybe they figured she is to much of a liability with the Epstein stuff.
Newsom - lots of the moderate left and centrists will vote for him as they see him like an old-school democrat.
Hillary - anti-Trump sentiment, she is the weakest as TDS is still rampant so they don't need her.
Michele - good far-leftist candidate that would also get old-school democrats to vote.
They should have put more effort into pushing Matthew McConaughey. Something to look forward for 2028, I guess.
They can just invent a candidate from nowhere and them use the power of media coordination to convince people of their value.
It worked for Obama originally, and it worked for Biden as well. Literally no one wanted or cared about Biden, but they convinced everyone he was the super savior that would stop Trump and so he went from that Meme guy from the Obama years to their President.
So many of them are such true believers that they'll swear allegiance to whoever CNN puts in front of them. The same people who insisted that Biden is a genius, he just has a speech impediment, he's misunderstood, he's so far beyond us that's why he said that. He could take a dump on stage and they'd call it performance art. He could have a conversation with someone who is literally not there and known to be dead, and they'd claim he has psychic powers.
But looking back, nobody was a Biden fan before he was nominated. Once he was propped up, they fell in line as sycophants do. It's not about the person with them, it's about the party. It's the same reason they had Fetterman, a verified retard, installed to the senate seat via mail in manipulation rather than allow a regular guy from the other side have it fairly.
it would be hilarious if they tried to push pete buttstuff.
Newsome, Big Mike, and maybe the Michigan and NY governors.