I didn't know that but I did know that they have a habit of helping the left memory hole anything they find inconvenient. I always tell people to use .is or whatever it redirects to when this comes up.
I always say archive everything, even from ethical sources. The source being ethical only eliminates some of the problems that archiving solves. Of course if the source is ethical it's better to give a direct link and post the archive in the comments.
I always say archive everything, even from ethical sources.
I'm always frustrated by people who know about archiving, but sometimes don't do it. Styx is a prime example. He'll archive almost everything, which is great, but then he'll just drop a link sometimes and state it's not archived because XYZ. No, archive it anyway. Drop the unarchived link as well if there's a reason (video, etc.), but you still archive it.
To be fair to him, it's easy to forget, especially if it's something as simple as having a chat with someone on a forum. I remember the Godot forum drama, I should have screeshotted this thread the admin there deleted because it was quite significant proof he was being an insufferable wokester.
However me not realising even in the programming sphere there are seriously unprofessional douches nowadays he up and deleted evidence of his behaviour because he knew it made him look bad. Luckily another autist caught the main bits of it and him deleting the thread but lesson learned. Always be on the alert, deletion of posts by moderators is usually them covering up their own behaviour as well as trying to censor people.
He doesn't forget though, he tells you why he didn't feel this instance "needed" archiving or whatever. The content is still live and archivable, and he's making a whole video about it.
Always be on the alert
Exactly my point. Better safe than sorry, archive everything even if you think it doesn't need it.
Seems the opposite to me. Reddit doesn’t want footage of mutilated civilians, rape victims with bloody pants being loaded into vans, entire families mourning their executed children with their remaining children taken hostage, to get any publicity.
Cause that might lead people to think Islamic terrorists are maybe less than perfectly intersectional victims.
“The whole thing” being the indiscriminate execution, rape, and kidnap of civilians, specifically and intentionally women and children. Nearly a thousand by current count.
I’m not about both sides here, sorry. I’m not about either side, to be honest. I don’t give a rip.
But that shit is fucking baseline evil. I’ve seen the videos they’re trying to censor. There’s a very good reason the censors want to limit their reach. What happened in Israel over the weekend is an absolute abomination, millennia removed from civilization as we know it, and a clear threat to the pristine and blameless image of so-called downtrodden protected classes.
I agree with you. I'm simply pointing out that if the left could figure out who outranks who they would be acting differently. They wouldn't have a problem showing how evil Hamas is if they decided Jew outranks Muslim. But if they decided that Muslim outranked Jew Predditors would be celebrating what's going on, and they would be covering it up as they are now. The difference is they're censoring discussion of the entire conflict instead of making friend/enemy distinctions in their moderation like they usually do. The video censorship is just a small part of what they're doing here.
I’m pointing out that there is no equivalence between sides here. Do not forget what really happened.
Because I guarantee that though Reddit and mass media have censored the Hamas-produced videos of unspeakable crimes, they will breathlessly promote Hamas-produced videos of “unspeakable crimes” (i.e. some rubble and maybe an apartment building collapse) in the coming days.
Maybe you will be swayed. Maybe you will not. But there is, and this post is evidence of, a clear effort to whitewash these crimes. “Both sides” is the vehicle that whitewashing rides first.
If you didn’t want a violent reaction, maybe your people shouldn’t have done everything in their power to guarantee a violent reaction. Gaza is the largest death camp of all time.
Are you sure about that? These people have been mass imported into all of western civilization. It's not so far removed from you as you might think. It might be living right down the street from you.
Reddit is a faux user driven content site, its the same as any MSM centralized news organization, nothing organic about reddit at all, nothing user driven, nothing but "the message" whatever it is, orders given on high.
In the comments you can see a few NPCs complaining that, since they refuse to use Twitter now, what else is there? The irony of complaining they can't use reddit because of censorship and having no alternative because they stopped using another site because its new owner removed some censorship. Fucking mentally deranged scum.
I suppose they'll say they want to block Hamas' POV videos because, well they're not exactly normal combat videos are they?
Remember, lefties hate da joos as much as stormfront weirdos, so this is probably a backwards ass attempt to shield Hamas. Now their video showing them beheading old people can't go viral.
so this is probably a backwards ass attempt to shield Hamas
It's more like the left's inability to decide whether Jews or Muslims are higher on the woke pecking order. Even a retard like Spez knows the mob will go after him no matter which side he takes, so he's shutting down the whole thing.
Do you guys not remember how much the left hates Israel specifically? They have zero trouble deciding who is higher on the stack. Lefties are out saying Israel deserved it and don't call Hamas terrorists. The only difference now is that the sheer scale has made that nonsense blow up in their faces.
Actually there whole ban on showing death is one of the worst decisions regarding this. They literally won't allow people to show Hamas atrocities because it violates the rules, but then they try to curate this shit.
This is why I'm reduced to going to WatchPeopleDie.win and random searches on Bitchute.
If you read carefully, I said normal combat videos. Normal combat videos are two groups of soldiers fighting. Hamas is dragging grandmas out of apartment building and burning down nursing homes.
The Left is 100% pro-Palestine and anti-Israel. Despite what many here believe, the Left isn't run by the Jews. Secular Jews are just a constituency of the Left like any other, but secular Jews are globalists so they're willing to give a pass to the rest of the Left as long as it forwards the globalist agenda of the Left.
Leftists get nervous when there are conflicts or contradictions in their ideology and they haven't been told what to think yet. Any "discomfort" you're seeing on the Left about this situation will go away as soon as there is an approved narrative that they can follow.
It's so odd how people can't seem to remember what the left did five years ago.
Guys, the left has been consistent on this. They always shield Palestine and the rest of the muslim world. Remember how mad they got when Trump recognized Jerusalem as the capitol of Israel?
To be fair, you all aren't retarded enough contrarians to support the other side, right?
Reddit being Reddit is nothing new - fuck them, but that obviously doesn't mean people should support either of these sides since they're both shit for their own reasons. Funny thing is, a lot of leftists support the extremist ultra conservative Palestenians and Hamas, so it's kind of a clusterfuck either way lmao
Jews have earned all the enmity they are held in, and so have Muslims. The only side I'm taking is the one that encourages them to kill each other to the maximum extent possible.
There are a few opinions that will get you silently downvoted here. Notably, anything that that might remotely be construed as pro-Jewish or pro-Israel; and anything that doesn't fully buy into MGTOW/Incel narrative.
It's mostly silent downvotes, but who cares anyway.
It's not a controversial opinion among anyone with more than two brain cells.
I'll go several steps further and just say it. I'm pro-Israel. I've actually been on-the-ground in Israel and Arabs are allowed to move around freely and live a relatively normal life in Israel with virtually no restrictions. In contrast, there are "no-go" areas in Israel where Jews simply can't travel because they'll be violently attacked and killed. There are areas where even white Westerners are allowed because the Muslims want that sweet tourist money, but Jews aren't allowed because the Muslims want to kill Jews even more than they want to make a profit.
The entire history of the Jewish-Palestinian peace talks are basically just the Israeli government making concessions after concession only to be refused because the Palestinians have no interest in peace. Their life mission is to wipe the Jews off the face of the earth. "Peace" for the Palestinians is only time to prepare for the next attack.
Hamas and the Palestinians are 100% in the wrong here. People trying to pretend otherwise are either ignorant, stupid or evil.
You can't criticize Israel without being accused of antisemitism and you can't criticize Hamas without being called Islamophobic. It's not clear who outranks who on the woke pecking order so they're just shutting it down entirely.
To be fair, you all aren't retarded enough contrarians to support the other side, right?
Similar to the Ukraine conflict, I'm sad for the innocents lost on both sides, and condemn the atrocities committed on both sides. Hamas are fucking terrorists, as evidenced by their actions, and fuck people who try to hide that. Israel is also acting the right dick too. Israel will murder even more Palestinians who don't deserve it, Hamas/Palestine will murder more Israelis who don't deserve it.
As I said, I'm sad for losses on both sides, and condemn the terrible crimes on both sides. But, since you asked directly, I'll state directly: Fuck no, I don't support Hamas.
I think the part that grosses me out about Hamas (and note, I'm not advocating that we send military aid to Israel) is that Hamas celebrates the death and torture of civilians. They take pride in it. Israel at least pays lip service to not wanting the death of innocents, and by their actions seem to have shown that they're sincere in this desire.
Both sides are NOT awful. There is no false equivalence here. Hamas and the Palestinians are unequivocally in the wrong. Saying both sides are bad is just the safe thing to say on this board because there are so many Jew-haters here.
Unless you're against free speech, supporting it isn't supporting either side of the conflict. Only fucking NPCs believe this and those are people I am completely sick of that want to deny the ability for somebody to have nuanced opinions on a topic and force you into a two sided battle that one person controls.
Yeah, you're here to be assigned a side by the administration. Clean it up jannie.
Reminder archive.org is owned by Taylor lorenzs uncle
I didn't know that but I did know that they have a habit of helping the left memory hole anything they find inconvenient. I always tell people to use .is or whatever it redirects to when this comes up.
Plus their website is slow and clunky compared to archive.today. Here's the Archive.Today link.
That’s how you know Israel is the good guys, guys. Through brute force censorship of an American(ish) owned company.
Because a ban on terrorist torture porn disproportionately affects Hamas? That's not the own you think it is.
Good practice at archiving it! It must be (((CCP))) censoring it!
:)
It's really sad that archiving has to be standard practice now because even in private conversations lying about people has become that common.
I always say archive everything, even from ethical sources. The source being ethical only eliminates some of the problems that archiving solves. Of course if the source is ethical it's better to give a direct link and post the archive in the comments.
I'm always frustrated by people who know about archiving, but sometimes don't do it. Styx is a prime example. He'll archive almost everything, which is great, but then he'll just drop a link sometimes and state it's not archived because XYZ. No, archive it anyway. Drop the unarchived link as well if there's a reason (video, etc.), but you still archive it.
To be fair to him, it's easy to forget, especially if it's something as simple as having a chat with someone on a forum. I remember the Godot forum drama, I should have screeshotted this thread the admin there deleted because it was quite significant proof he was being an insufferable wokester.
However me not realising even in the programming sphere there are seriously unprofessional douches nowadays he up and deleted evidence of his behaviour because he knew it made him look bad. Luckily another autist caught the main bits of it and him deleting the thread but lesson learned. Always be on the alert, deletion of posts by moderators is usually them covering up their own behaviour as well as trying to censor people.
He doesn't forget though, he tells you why he didn't feel this instance "needed" archiving or whatever. The content is still live and archivable, and he's making a whole video about it.
Exactly my point. Better safe than sorry, archive everything even if you think it doesn't need it.
Welcome to nine years ago, but yeah it is pretty disheartening.
Jews trying to hide their false flag. What a surprise.
no didn't you read trumps truth? it's the ccp!
Seems the opposite to me. Reddit doesn’t want footage of mutilated civilians, rape victims with bloody pants being loaded into vans, entire families mourning their executed children with their remaining children taken hostage, to get any publicity.
Cause that might lead people to think Islamic terrorists are maybe less than perfectly intersectional victims.
I think it's both. Both sides have woke protection and they can't agree who's higher on the pecking order so they just censor the whole thing.
It's definitely both, and it's not okay to censor fucking crimes against humanity.
“The whole thing” being the indiscriminate execution, rape, and kidnap of civilians, specifically and intentionally women and children. Nearly a thousand by current count.
I’m not about both sides here, sorry. I’m not about either side, to be honest. I don’t give a rip.
But that shit is fucking baseline evil. I’ve seen the videos they’re trying to censor. There’s a very good reason the censors want to limit their reach. What happened in Israel over the weekend is an absolute abomination, millennia removed from civilization as we know it, and a clear threat to the pristine and blameless image of so-called downtrodden protected classes.
I agree with you. I'm simply pointing out that if the left could figure out who outranks who they would be acting differently. They wouldn't have a problem showing how evil Hamas is if they decided Jew outranks Muslim. But if they decided that Muslim outranked Jew Predditors would be celebrating what's going on, and they would be covering it up as they are now. The difference is they're censoring discussion of the entire conflict instead of making friend/enemy distinctions in their moderation like they usually do. The video censorship is just a small part of what they're doing here.
I don’t necessarily disagree with you.
I’m pointing out that there is no equivalence between sides here. Do not forget what really happened.
Because I guarantee that though Reddit and mass media have censored the Hamas-produced videos of unspeakable crimes, they will breathlessly promote Hamas-produced videos of “unspeakable crimes” (i.e. some rubble and maybe an apartment building collapse) in the coming days.
Maybe you will be swayed. Maybe you will not. But there is, and this post is evidence of, a clear effort to whitewash these crimes. “Both sides” is the vehicle that whitewashing rides first.
If you didn’t want a violent reaction, maybe your people shouldn’t have done everything in their power to guarantee a violent reaction. Gaza is the largest death camp of all time.
Are you sure about that? These people have been mass imported into all of western civilization. It's not so far removed from you as you might think. It might be living right down the street from you.
Are you prepared to deal with that?
I feel like "Propaganda" honestly understates how bad reddit is with anything vaguely politically-related.
Better archive:
https://archive.ph/xlIEm
Archiveception
omg it really is! An archive of the wayback machine. Maybe something was lost in the meantime
Reddit is a faux user driven content site, its the same as any MSM centralized news organization, nothing organic about reddit at all, nothing user driven, nothing but "the message" whatever it is, orders given on high.
In the comments you can see a few NPCs complaining that, since they refuse to use Twitter now, what else is there? The irony of complaining they can't use reddit because of censorship and having no alternative because they stopped using another site because its new owner removed some censorship. Fucking mentally deranged scum.
The NPCs must be fed the Message
Only one opinion is allowed on reddit. The correct opinion! (as established by globohomo)
Any recommendations for good sourcing of videos and reports?
https://twitter.com/MilitaryPOV
Some reposts popping up on Kiwi.
https://t.me/gazaalannet/
etc
Haven't been following this that closely but these are updated frequently:
https://nitter.poast.org/clashreport
https://nitter.poast.org/sentdefender/
CAIR has a lot less juice than ADL, so they're siding with the people who have the most power to fuck with their advertisers.
I suppose they'll say they want to block Hamas' POV videos because, well they're not exactly normal combat videos are they?
Remember, lefties hate da joos as much as stormfront weirdos, so this is probably a backwards ass attempt to shield Hamas. Now their video showing them beheading old people can't go viral.
It's more like the left's inability to decide whether Jews or Muslims are higher on the woke pecking order. Even a retard like Spez knows the mob will go after him no matter which side he takes, so he's shutting down the whole thing.
Do you guys not remember how much the left hates Israel specifically? They have zero trouble deciding who is higher on the stack. Lefties are out saying Israel deserved it and don't call Hamas terrorists. The only difference now is that the sheer scale has made that nonsense blow up in their faces.
100% agree, this is coverup. Reddit and the left do NOT want people to get a realistic picture of what happened this weekend.
They are clearly combat videos.
Actually there whole ban on showing death is one of the worst decisions regarding this. They literally won't allow people to show Hamas atrocities because it violates the rules, but then they try to curate this shit.
This is why I'm reduced to going to WatchPeopleDie.win and random searches on Bitchute.
If you read carefully, I said normal combat videos. Normal combat videos are two groups of soldiers fighting. Hamas is dragging grandmas out of apartment building and burning down nursing homes.
Not quite the same optics.
Some of them are that, but most of them are normal combat.
This is very much the case.
The Left is 100% pro-Palestine and anti-Israel. Despite what many here believe, the Left isn't run by the Jews. Secular Jews are just a constituency of the Left like any other, but secular Jews are globalists so they're willing to give a pass to the rest of the Left as long as it forwards the globalist agenda of the Left.
Leftists get nervous when there are conflicts or contradictions in their ideology and they haven't been told what to think yet. Any "discomfort" you're seeing on the Left about this situation will go away as soon as there is an approved narrative that they can follow.
It's so odd how people can't seem to remember what the left did five years ago.
Guys, the left has been consistent on this. They always shield Palestine and the rest of the muslim world. Remember how mad they got when Trump recognized Jerusalem as the capitol of Israel?
To be fair, you all aren't retarded enough contrarians to support the other side, right?
Reddit being Reddit is nothing new - fuck them, but that obviously doesn't mean people should support either of these sides since they're both shit for their own reasons. Funny thing is, a lot of leftists support the extremist ultra conservative Palestenians and Hamas, so it's kind of a clusterfuck either way lmao
Jews have earned all the enmity they are held in, and so have Muslims. The only side I'm taking is the one that encourages them to kill each other to the maximum extent possible.
I don't see why some Jewish teenage girl needs to be brutally raped and then murdered in order to atone for the sins of other jews, dude
EDIT: How is this a controversial opinion? I'm legitimately confused.
There are a few opinions that will get you silently downvoted here. Notably, anything that that might remotely be construed as pro-Jewish or pro-Israel; and anything that doesn't fully buy into MGTOW/Incel narrative.
It's mostly silent downvotes, but who cares anyway.
It's disappointing, considering I never said I was pro-Jewish or pro-Israel. I'm just against the torture and murder of teenagers lol.
I don't disagree, but IMHO, just roll with it. It's just clicks on a screen. Too many redditor asshats get all worked out about updoots.
It's not a controversial opinion among anyone with more than two brain cells.
I'll go several steps further and just say it. I'm pro-Israel. I've actually been on-the-ground in Israel and Arabs are allowed to move around freely and live a relatively normal life in Israel with virtually no restrictions. In contrast, there are "no-go" areas in Israel where Jews simply can't travel because they'll be violently attacked and killed. There are areas where even white Westerners are allowed because the Muslims want that sweet tourist money, but Jews aren't allowed because the Muslims want to kill Jews even more than they want to make a profit.
The entire history of the Jewish-Palestinian peace talks are basically just the Israeli government making concessions after concession only to be refused because the Palestinians have no interest in peace. Their life mission is to wipe the Jews off the face of the earth. "Peace" for the Palestinians is only time to prepare for the next attack.
Hamas and the Palestinians are 100% in the wrong here. People trying to pretend otherwise are either ignorant, stupid or evil.
You can't criticize Israel without being accused of antisemitism and you can't criticize Hamas without being called Islamophobic. It's not clear who outranks who on the woke pecking order so they're just shutting it down entirely.
Glass it all.
Similar to the Ukraine conflict, I'm sad for the innocents lost on both sides, and condemn the atrocities committed on both sides. Hamas are fucking terrorists, as evidenced by their actions, and fuck people who try to hide that. Israel is also acting the right dick too. Israel will murder even more Palestinians who don't deserve it, Hamas/Palestine will murder more Israelis who don't deserve it.
As I said, I'm sad for losses on both sides, and condemn the terrible crimes on both sides. But, since you asked directly, I'll state directly: Fuck no, I don't support Hamas.
Also...America first.
I think the part that grosses me out about Hamas (and note, I'm not advocating that we send military aid to Israel) is that Hamas celebrates the death and torture of civilians. They take pride in it. Israel at least pays lip service to not wanting the death of innocents, and by their actions seem to have shown that they're sincere in this desire.
Israelis call Palestinians animals and are gleefully proclaiming their desire to push Gaza into the sea.
People who celebrate torture are animals.
Yes, both sides are awful. I was just pointing out that Hamas, in this one section is particularly awful.
Both sides are NOT awful. There is no false equivalence here. Hamas and the Palestinians are unequivocally in the wrong. Saying both sides are bad is just the safe thing to say on this board because there are so many Jew-haters here.
Unless you're against free speech, supporting it isn't supporting either side of the conflict. Only fucking NPCs believe this and those are people I am completely sick of that want to deny the ability for somebody to have nuanced opinions on a topic and force you into a two sided battle that one person controls.