Leftist anon thinks the right controls america
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Leftists can never admit that they are in control. I see three reasons for this.
Negotiating tactic. Always demand more, always move the goalposts, always pretend that you’ve gotten nothing even as you’re taking everything.
Deflection from failure. Your policies are retarded and destroy everything, so you must deny that they are your policies. Real communism has never been tried.
Politics of oppression. You are the resistance fighting against the man. You can never allow yourself to be perceived as the man. You must be the underdog so that you are free to punch up against all of your cultural enemies.
You're assuming that their views are based in reality. They're not.
In this guy's world hate crimes have increased dramatically. But he doesn't realize that hate crimes are up because getting to work on time is now a hate crime or how ridiculously low the standard is now; he's seen 'the evidence', but only curated agenda-evidence from lefty news. It's the summer of the shark, but on every topic all the time.
The worst of these delusional people get their news from dozens of different outlets and have no idea that those are all given them the same flock-of-birds message. Any evidence or rational argument you show them is a crackpot theory because they're absolutely convinced they're well and deeply informed.
I've never seen anything like it.
It's actually relatively easy to explain. They spend 4+ years in college (and increasingly time in high school, as well) in classes where they are fed unfalsifiable bullshit based on theories that can be traced back to the Frankfurt School.
At some point, when you're fed years of lies about things that don't exist and are easily disproven, it becomes a game of the Emperor's New Clothes. It has nothing to do with the reality -- it's a choice of "accept the bullshit and stay in the club" or "burn every bridge and live on the outside." In my experience there is no middle ground between those two positions, and students are implicitly made aware of this.
So you have true adherents (mostly women, because they don't need logic to feel correct) and reprehensible losers who are 'faking it' until at some point they stop faking it because they have too much social capital to lose. It's also relatively basic psychology that if you 'fake' being someone or something for too long, you will eventually become it.
Call it a social contagion, call it a cult -- whatever you want, you're pretty accurately describing how fucked up it is.
It's because people are weak willed and can't stand on their own. Having your own opinions is verboten among most of the population.
I'm not even talking exclusively about the young, but even middle-aged and up who previously were well-informed and grounded.
What happened is around 2015 news organizations were majority democrat (approx 2/3rds), Trump got nominated and elected, and because he broke their minds they fired / me too / forced out any conservative until they are now less than 5% even with closet conservatives.
Extreme example is Tom Ashbrook. Everybody lauded On Point for nearly twenty years, but a year after Trump he got me too'd, an independent investigation totally exonerated him, but WBUR/NPR fired him anyway because they didn't want to work with even a conservative-leaning person like him. Now NPR has zero people you could even suspect are closet conservatives.
There's no dissenting voices in their newsrooms and their audience hasn't figured that out.
My father, for example. He still gets all of his news from mainstream sources, with their obvious spins and propaganda. Believes that it's objective journalism. And every time I contradict something, try to explain to him situations neutrally and objectively, he claims that I'm a conspiracy theorist, because it's not what he heard on the news. Tells me that I'm reading and listening to propaganda, because I take time to research my opinions myself instead of just believing the talking heads on tv.
I have not the slightest clue about how to deprogram him and to get him to make at least a slight effort doing research. I even often researched information right in front of him and showed him my evidence when he claimed that one of my statements was false, but he then just forgets the discussions and goes right back to his previous position. Even asking him about which organizations he considered credible in order to use their own data to support my points didn't work, because he refused to name a single organization.
I feel like I'm surrounded by NPCs most of the time.
The horror of recognizing that your own family, the very people that you should be closest to in the world, are unthinking automatons is a uniquely agonizing experience. My mom and sister are unrepentant in their Leftism, and I would have more success training caterpillars than reasoning my way through a subject they've already had their minds made up for them by the TV/radio.
I don't know what else to do except abandon them entirely and set out for people who I can talk to, strangers or not. I feel like they're entirely lost.
Make fun of them whenever you can. I suppose that ends up the same as abandoning them, but at least they will be clear on the reason and your politics. They may even reflect a little. (you would know better than me)
Same boat. I always send them the primary source when I can. I send them the peer-reviewed science paper not even the science-news summary of it so at least in their mind they have to think "oh he means well he's just reading the wrong study, the science is conflicted". They're smart enough to read the abstract and understand what the paper's main findings are.
I think the only prayer is for them to realize that all their sources are the same source.
Do you have a conservative source for that? Does your source have even a single conservative reporter/journalist working there that you can name? Then reject that source because you need to get the full picture or you only listen to balanced news.
It's not that they're dumb, they just can't conceive of a 150 million person echo chamber or that they're in it - that's a conspiracy theory, an impossibility.
You basically sum it up. it's the only reason people can call themselves The Resistance with the straight face when every single large institution is bending over backwards to pander to them.
China's army still calls itself the People's Liberation Army as it runs over the people with tanks.
Reduces HB's Social Credit score by several million
Remember, boomers are the years of the hippies. They were apparently fucking everywhere for that generation, and yet it's the boomers that are supposedly also hyper right-wing and responsible for every conservative law ever.
Once you point out the hippies were boomers, people don't really know how to accept that point and reconcile with the fact that an overwhelmingly leftist generation wasn't salvation and more importantly lead to some pretty fucked up laws.
The left has ALWAYS been a cancer.
It's because the Boomers became Yuppies. The degenerate Left thinks that makes them radical conservatives because they got jobs. Reality is, they remained extremely far left, they just also started taking showers.
That's what this scene from American Psycho comes from. Yuppies espoused Leftist talking points in the same way that modern corporate mid-wits do. Yes, it's true, no one ever cared about these things genuinely. But that's to say: NO ONE not even the activists themselves. All of them are grifting, especially the ones saying it's the most important thing in the world. They are all thieves, including anon up there.
"They don't genuinely believe in these causes!"
"Yeah, none of them do, even you!"
This is why BLM stole millions of dollars to such a degree that Democratic AG's started going after them.
What a riot!
The only exceptions are a few really low IQ useful idiots, and young college freshmen who have just started down the path. Anyone with a tiny bit of critical thinking ability will quickly figure it out and convert to A) continuing the grift and virtue signaling so you can stay in all the right circles, "fighting the good fight" nobody around you actually believes in, or B) admitting you were wrong and start letting everyone know it's all a scam, like Peter Hitchens, Thomas Sowell or Manning Johnson.
Yes, the "Useful Idiots" that Lenin mentioned. His intention was to march those specific people into the machine guns of the reactionary forces arrayed against them.
The most dangerous thing you can do to a Leftist, is believe them.
The Resistance™, brought to you by Pfizer...
Indeed you can see indicators of all those in the anon's comment, which reads like it was written by a "write a forum sliding post in the style of an American communist" chatbot.
delusional faggot.
I have family that think the same way. "There is no political Left in America."
We have been ruled by Fabian Socialists since the Hoover administration, who started their work at the turn of the 20th century in the Woodrow Wilson administration (someone the Left also thinks is a Rightist, despite being the major force of the "Progressive Era" of American politics). The entirety of progressive positions today were constructed by the most radical communists of the 1970's.
They are standing here telling you that anti-Liberal Communists are "Liberals", and that the people they think would have been cooky fringe, are now mainstream progressive positions.
They look at their current objectives (which were unachievable to every generation before them), and say that since they weren't achieved, they've never had any power, despite nearly all of their predecessor's former objectives having been achieved.
As current_horror points out, for the default Leftists this is mostly ignorance; but for the activists: they are aware of it and using it as a mechanism to push people Leftwards.
In reality, the US became a Democratic Socialist country under FDR and has been very slowly Liberalizing out of Socialism for the past 70 years. Progress has been made on economic grounds, but lost on federal control and social grounds.
America is run by right-wing capitalists sweaty. See Mark Cuban. I rest my case. 🎤
This is how you know he doesn't know the first thing about medical science behind the injection
This guy clearly doesn’t understand demographics. If white people make up the majority of the population then they will be in most entertainment or at least that shouldn’t be a surprise. Lgbt represents a tiny percent of the population and the massive overrepresentation of any group is bound to annoy people especially when you push it on their kids.
I honestly don’t know how many times the “cops are killing black people all time” narrative has been debunked
If cops killed black people all the time, it wouldn't be a massively big deal during the few times it happens. Same with COVID deaths. If it killed anybody who wasn't at the verge of death, every death wouldn't be newsworthy. If there is a major news article about something, then it automatically means it is an uncommon event.
And of course the media leaves out important details like the person was fighting the cops or resisting
Don't forget the multiple priors.
That too
It's 4chan, most posts on there are larps and/or trolling to caues arguments and reactions like this thread.
Almost makes you wonder why the OP posted this thread...
Well going by 4chan rules "OP is a faggot", so...
Didn't read most of this but there's no meaningful difference between any subgroup of leftists on any issue that matters. Over 90% of Bernie primary voters end up voting blue no matter who.
I got blocked by some moron on reddit recently because I was so clearly "warped" when I pointed out that the left has been largely the dominant side of culture and politics for at least 15 years in Western countries.
It's especially funny given how many of us used to lean at least a little bit left, back before the goal posts got rearranged. So from a certain standpoint, I understand the concerns and issues that leftist NPC's have, but these idiots have been living in such a deranged bubble that they never even bothered to notice that they've been actively supporting the crony capitalism that they used to bitch about, and buying into every lie hook line and sinker.
I first noticed it when leftist Euros on one forum didn't see why government surveillance, NSA shit, and the Patriot Act weren't an issue, simply because this was during the Obama era, where apparently the issues somehow don't matter all of a sudden.
Then you start to notice it when leftist hiveminds like Resetera clearly don't give a flying fuck about government attempts to take down encryption or the threats that digital ID's represent.
I can get along with people who don't lean conservative just fine, and almost never make the first move to end all lines of communication with someone over a difference of opinion. But there is a very clear line where I won't be able to put up with the more opinionated and idiotic of leftists.
I'm prepared to open my mind to different opinions, but I am not going to jump on any NPC bandwagons no matter what kind of measures they try to employ to force me and others into submission and docile compliance.
Now show the replies.
I bet anon also believes that atheists are literally being chased down the streets by Bible-wielding Christians and forced to repent at gunpoint.
My god, the level of delusion is something else.
BTW, what IS happening in Florida?
It'll be fun watching them lose what's left of their sanity as leftism consumes itself.
The hilarious and sad part here is that literally everything he cited is hate propaganda that appeals to progressives! He destroyed his own argument in the process of making it. All that bullshit being widely believes is itself proof that the system at the very least pushes progressive talking points. What an absolute retard.
They consider themselves anarchists in the sense that they believe in the stateless society that’s supposed to spring into existence after the worldwide triumph of communism.