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Bad day for Brazil (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
posted 2 years ago by yoisi 2 years ago by yoisi +60 / -0
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– Gizortnik 42 points 2 years ago +42 / -0

TBH, Brazil has way more problems than this, and it's illegitimate judiciary is only one of them.

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– NoEyesNoGroin 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

Same disease, multiple symptoms.

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– Smith1980 29 points 2 years ago +29 / -0

So are they going to arrest Priests or go after churches for having a biblical view of homosexuality?

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– outra_pessoa 26 points 2 years ago +26 / -0

Yes, they will. The Brazilian Worker's Party really wants to destroy evangelicalism. They also have full support from the liberal Catholic Clergy.

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– lapalapa 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

They also have full support from the liberal Catholic Clergy.

Catholic clergy in favor of homophobia laws? You're talking nonsense.

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– DoctorDank 16 points 2 years ago +16 / -0

Clearly you have not been paying attention to the Catholic Church for the past... 20 years, at least.

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– lapalapa 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

Yes, I have. I'm a Peruvian Catholic. Latin America is where Catholicism remains the most fervent. The Brazilian clergy isn't going to be making heretical statements on homosexuality. It's not true.

Brazil isn't Germany.

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– outra_pessoa 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Latin America is where Catholicism remains the most fervent.

Eastern Europe and Africa.

Brazil was lost a long time ago because of Liberation theology. Most Catholics in Brazil do not go to mass regularly nor follow the moral authority of the church. Brazil has the second worst mass frequency in the world.

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– OldBullLee 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

Isn't the current Pope sympathetic to homos and trannies in the political sense?

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– lapalapa 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I don't know what that means. The Pope is a religious leader.

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– Smith1980 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

That’s why I was surprised because I thought Latin American Catholics still haven’t bent the knee to lgbt stuff like some in other places.

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– lapalapa 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

I'm afraid most people either aren't Catholic or don't live the faith. Also, third world countries often are all too eager to adopt whatever is fashionable in the northern hemisphere. So the cancer gets here too.

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– deleted 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0
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– outra_pessoa 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

One of the most influential priests in Brazil, Fr. Julio Lancelotti:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9ifQdaIjVE

And be sure that many bishops are also supporting this, even if they are not so outspoken.

The situation of the catholic church in Brazil is terrible.

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– lapalapa 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

All he's saying is that discrimination against them is wrong, which is in the catechism. That's not the same as approving the homosexual agenda.

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– outra_pessoa 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

he literally said it is a crime. there are videos of him refusing to say that homossexuality i alsos a sin

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– lapalapa 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Being gay itself isn't a sin. Fornication (with the same sex or otherwise) is a sin. Cultivating lustful thoughts is also a sin. The sin of scandal may also be relevant.

2357 - 2359 of the Catholic Catechism:

2357 Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity,141 tradition has always declared that "homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered."142 They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.

2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God's will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord's Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.

2359 Homosexual persons are called to chastity. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection.

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– outra_pessoa 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

You didn't comment on the fact that he clearly proclaimed to be in favor of Homophobia laws, something you were denying in your first commentary.

I also appreciate that you showed us the canons of the catechism, but unfortunately, nobody here disagrees with the church's doctrine. Who disagrees with the catechism is Fr Lancelotti. Let's take a look at this specific fragment from the catechism:

Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity,141 tradition has always declared that "homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered."142 They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved.

Any moral teaching based on orthodoxy must remind lay people that homosexual acts and tendencies are a disorder and must be avoided and suppressed.

Now let's see what Fr Lancelotti has to say:

Being LGBT is a sin? To sin is to act inhumanely. One may be hetero or LGBT or trans and be inhumane.

Is this the teaching of catechism? I don't think so! In my opinion he refuses to proclaim that homosexual acts are in fact a sin.

In fact, he even says that official declarations of the catholic church do not matter, and he even hopes that someday the church will change its doctrine to "accommodate LGBT people entriely".

Anyway, I just picked Fr Lancelotti as an example, because the Brazilian clergy is full of liberal traitors, like Fr Ticão who makes thematic masses dedicated to the "holy herb" Marijuana, or father Jose Pinto who liked to fight racism dancing vodoo songs in the middle of the sunday mass.

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– Imthrowing4 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Well Catholics are fucktards.

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– Maskurbator 25 points 2 years ago +25 / -0

Ohhhh. Earlier I thought it said homosexuality. Well fuck. Can't even have certain opinions anymore I guess. Brazil is gay.

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– when_we_win_remember 13 points 2 years ago +13 / -0

It's pretty gay, ngl.

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– Adamrises 19 points 2 years ago +19 / -0

In a nation filled with so much unchecked crime already, this feels more like virtue signalling to Westerners and elites to give them that money and status for being woke than anything else.

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– RaceCreatesCulture 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

No, Brazil really is that fucking gay. Did you know Brazil has more transexuals per capita than Thailand? Brazil is gay.

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– redman012 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

What? Do they just have a billion gender clinics over there or something?

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– JustHereForTheSalmon 18 points 2 years ago +18 / -0

Brazil also learning the costs of not crossing the Rubicon.

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– ApparentlyImAHeretic 16 points 2 years ago +16 / -0

shit like this is what happens when your elections are stolen

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– freespeechsquid 14 points 2 years ago +14 / -0

Dishonest media tactic #425: It's 'landmark' when they approve and 'unprecedented' when they don't.

Anyway, this is what happens when communists are in charge.

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– deleted 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0
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– activated_almonds 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

It is, by nature.

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– bloodguard 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

This really isn't going to go like they planned. Knowing Brazilians this really just means "no witnesses".

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– MLGS 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

You just can't let communists steal your elections.

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– MargarineMongoose 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Lots of blasphemy laws this week I guess.

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– Lurker404 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Brazil's Supreme Court has been taken over by Socialists. They're the real government at this point.

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– when_we_win_remember 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Brazil is resilient.

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– Kienan 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Brazil, nooo!

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– dagthegnome 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

On the plus side, this might lead to the authorities actually locking up a few favela gangsters, because they certainly weren't using the gun laws, the racketeering laws or the laws on violent crime for that purpose.

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– yoisi [S] 33 points 2 years ago +33 / -0

what makes you think they would use this law against criminals? its always the peaceful people that they use these types of laws against.

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– Kaarous 20 points 2 years ago +20 / -0

Lula's electoral base is criminals after all.

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– TisDaRhythmOfDaNight 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

to be more specific, it's an excuse to destroy religious institutes that they don't like.

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– APDSmith 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

If they weren't going to lock 'em up for that, what makes you think they'll lock 'em up for this?

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– SuurSuomi39_II 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I think every day is a bad day for a shithole as shitty as Brazil. Interesting to see that a country that sucks at everything and has far bigger problems, prioritizes this.

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