People look back at the 360 era game lobbies with fondness for how unregulated it was…. Same company 16 years later let’s make it where no one wants to joke or talk trash in our game lobbies for fear of an account ban. This is going to do the opposite of getting people out of discord or party chats ( are they still called that? Haven’t had an Xbox in years) and getting them back into game chat.
That's just the label they'll put on it. Undoubtably they've got some monitoring and recording software in there working to create an AI voice out of every dude who uses Microsoft chat so that xXxBallSmasher4kxXx's voice (Spliced out of him giving call outs in Battlefield) will be able to tell White chicks to transition into men and that guys are terrible never reproduce.
Yes, but it used to be that you weren't absolutely required to play with 100% trusted friends over the internet for fear of having your account permanently banned platform-wide and potentially being doxed and having your work and family harassed until they fire and disown you.
Actually, probably will be automatic. I swear.. discord listens to everything people say in voice chat even if i didnt say it. Like someone in voice chat would say hippo. Someone else said it, i never mentioned it in a reply or anything. 30 minutes on youtube, i get videos for hippos..
So how does this comport with various state wiretapping laws? Microsoft's own home state of Washington has criminalized recording electronic communications without the consent of all parties. You have to be informed before recording begins.
"Player SensitiveFaggot69 would like to record the last minute of your voice chat, do you consent?"
And, if you can send a retrospective recording after the fact, that means that they're recording all the time and just not transmitting it anywhere. They're likely already breaking the law.
I'm pretty sure the EULA doesn't meet the notification requirements under Washington's law. Regardless, each person who sends a report to Microsoft would have to get your consent. Microsoft can't get it on behalf of every random user, because they're not an official representative of the company. Because Soyboy16 is recording your conversation with him, he has to obtain the consent himself.
The law also creates a civil cause of action, so even if the government didn't want to impose criminal penalties I bet you could find one of those ambulance chaser types to start a class action lawsuit on behalf of every Washington Xbox player. Now multiply that by every state that has similar laws.
I agree with you but I wish I could rely on a law being written down on paper to provide that protection. If no-one will enforce this it might as well not exist.
I think most legal restrictions on wiretapping have a massive loophole that's been increasingly exploited: It's only considered wiretapping if the monitoring's being done by government employees/officials, and/or possibly paid for directly through state funds. So it's not considered wiretapping if private companies monitor things and voluntarily offer it up freely to the state/government/police.
There won't be a single voice app besides old versions of TeamSpeak and Ventrilo that doesn't harvest and store everything you say as well as your voice for use with future AI processing.
I remember back on the 360 era, there was an option to literally never hear any voice chat from people who are not on your friend list.
It wasn't buried deep in the options, it was one layer behind the voice control menu on your 360. I did it once because there was a sea of pre teen squeakers in a 17+ game.
Don't get me wrong, I don't care what games kids play, but I don't want to have to hear them whining either.
This was around the same time people would complain that they were being yelled at by mean people, when the onus was on them to mute whoever they wanted, or literally never hear anyone outside their friends list.
And now you can be monitored at all times in all games for bad words.
Thank you idiots for killing voice chat. We'll all be back to text with mature language filters in no time.
Edit: I wonder if this voice data will also be used to train AI somehow.
Red Dead 1 and Uncharted 2’s co-op multiplayer were the ones I had the most fun with. I played with real-life friends and not a bunch of randos which I’m sure helped.
Discord has already been spying on users. If you use chinese software you get what you deserve. They went through private groups and banned people for questioning the elections in 2020 as well.
Halo and COD is all about trash talking... the toxic community is how the game is remotely fresh, random and entertaining. Buncha faggots and girls are behind this.
I don't necessarily want to listen to a 13 year old calling me a faggot but building AI processing to make sure a machine automatically tries to get his parents fired and close their bank accounts (which is where this is headed) is deranged.
Faggots.
beat me to it
People look back at the 360 era game lobbies with fondness for how unregulated it was…. Same company 16 years later let’s make it where no one wants to joke or talk trash in our game lobbies for fear of an account ban. This is going to do the opposite of getting people out of discord or party chats ( are they still called that? Haven’t had an Xbox in years) and getting them back into game chat.
it’s a new company using a Microsoft skin suite. The Microsoft that we know would not encourage a company to ruin Halo as bad as Infinite did.
Microsoft has always been terrible though.
That's just the label they'll put on it. Undoubtably they've got some monitoring and recording software in there working to create an AI voice out of every dude who uses Microsoft chat so that xXxBallSmasher4kxXx's voice (Spliced out of him giving call outs in Battlefield) will be able to tell White chicks to transition into men and that guys are terrible never reproduce.
If your friends in discord start reporting you, you need new friends.
Yes, but it used to be that you weren't absolutely required to play with 100% trusted friends over the internet for fear of having your account permanently banned platform-wide and potentially being doxed and having your work and family harassed until they fire and disown you.
Actually, probably will be automatic. I swear.. discord listens to everything people say in voice chat even if i didnt say it. Like someone in voice chat would say hippo. Someone else said it, i never mentioned it in a reply or anything. 30 minutes on youtube, i get videos for hippos..
Discord is completely unencrypted- so of course they permanently record it and run it through their spy/advertising systems to monitor you.
I’m sure this won’t be abused at all
Why do people keep supporting and playing these shit-tier games?
Median IQ in US is 100 right? Remember, half of people have an IQ lower than that.
So how does this comport with various state wiretapping laws? Microsoft's own home state of Washington has criminalized recording electronic communications without the consent of all parties. You have to be informed before recording begins.
"Player SensitiveFaggot69 would like to record the last minute of your voice chat, do you consent?"
And, if you can send a retrospective recording after the fact, that means that they're recording all the time and just not transmitting it anywhere. They're likely already breaking the law.
Unfortunately that requires A) you not to have agreed to a license to use the product and B) a police apparatus willing to do something about it.
I'm pretty sure the EULA doesn't meet the notification requirements under Washington's law. Regardless, each person who sends a report to Microsoft would have to get your consent. Microsoft can't get it on behalf of every random user, because they're not an official representative of the company. Because Soyboy16 is recording your conversation with him, he has to obtain the consent himself.
The law also creates a civil cause of action, so even if the government didn't want to impose criminal penalties I bet you could find one of those ambulance chaser types to start a class action lawsuit on behalf of every Washington Xbox player. Now multiply that by every state that has similar laws.
I agree with you but I wish I could rely on a law being written down on paper to provide that protection. If no-one will enforce this it might as well not exist.
I think most legal restrictions on wiretapping have a massive loophole that's been increasingly exploited: It's only considered wiretapping if the monitoring's being done by government employees/officials, and/or possibly paid for directly through state funds. So it's not considered wiretapping if private companies monitor things and voluntarily offer it up freely to the state/government/police.
That's true and if those companies happen to "coincidentally" get some juicy government contracts, tax breaks or other benefits then it's still valid.
There won't be a single voice app besides old versions of TeamSpeak and Ventrilo that doesn't harvest and store everything you say as well as your voice for use with future AI processing.
I remember back on the 360 era, there was an option to literally never hear any voice chat from people who are not on your friend list.
It wasn't buried deep in the options, it was one layer behind the voice control menu on your 360. I did it once because there was a sea of pre teen squeakers in a 17+ game.
Don't get me wrong, I don't care what games kids play, but I don't want to have to hear them whining either.
This was around the same time people would complain that they were being yelled at by mean people, when the onus was on them to mute whoever they wanted, or literally never hear anyone outside their friends list.
And now you can be monitored at all times in all games for bad words.
Thank you idiots for killing voice chat. We'll all be back to text with mature language filters in no time.
Edit: I wonder if this voice data will also be used to train AI somehow.
gets smoked in a game
“WAAAH, he called me a bad name!”
The only multiplayer games I’ve ever really enjoyed were co-op multiplayer.
Red Dead 1 and Uncharted 2’s co-op multiplayer were the ones I had the most fun with. I played with real-life friends and not a bunch of randos which I’m sure helped.
anyone who makes a report should be banned.
Well this probably won't be implemented in the eu at least.
Without end to end encryption you will always be permanently recorded and data mined years later.
You will just be lied about it to make you feel better.
Solution: never use in-voice chat and only use Discord.
I don't think the messaging program moderated by furry pedophiles is going to be much better.
Yes, but at least your game account will be left untouched.
Discord has already been spying on users. If you use chinese software you get what you deserve. They went through private groups and banned people for questioning the elections in 2020 as well.
Halo and COD is all about trash talking... the toxic community is how the game is remotely fresh, random and entertaining. Buncha faggots and girls are behind this.
I don't necessarily want to listen to a 13 year old calling me a faggot but building AI processing to make sure a machine automatically tries to get his parents fired and close their bank accounts (which is where this is headed) is deranged.