Isn't this old news? Swear there was a post about this months ago...
And I'll reiterate what I said then, the African thing is stupid given how many Africans were in Asia in general at that time so using one as a shinobi is stupid, there were a few cases of female samauri but they'd be better as a Shinobi ironically as women can easily access certain areas most men can't so make effective spies and assassins.
Yasuke did not exist. Copy-pasting an older comment about this...
The sole argument for the existence of Yasuke is the Jesuit chronicles of their missions to Japan. Which were filled with nonsense and aren't taken seriously by most Catholics. Several of them were bloating their accounts in hopes of a bishopric.
Nobunaga never mentioned him in his own writings. Which given that Nobunaga would write poems about pretty much anything he laid eyes on, suggests that the two never met. The sole corroborating account stated that one of the missionary priests had a black servant, and they presented him as a curiosity to Nobunaga's court, but there is evidence of nothing else.
Here's another strain on historical credulity. Supposedly Yasuke fought for Nobunaga as a samurai. One of the claims is that he spoke fluent Japanese.
The time period between when they supposedly met and when Nobunaga was assassinated by Akechi Mitsuhide was... three months.
A black guy from what would now be Morocco, probably a slave to the priests, and someone whose language skills would have included mostly broken Portuguese, supposedly learned the second most difficult language on earth in three months. For reference, Japanese has three goddamn formal alphabets.
There is nothing about the story that is historically credible. There is more evidence of Santa Claus than there is of Yasuke. Now if you want a Japanese historical figure that is actually interesting and actually real, I suggest Honda Tadakatsu. He's a real life Hercules.
Now, now, let’s be fair. Kids can only consent when it’s a queer pairing. That way they’re allowed to explore their sexuality. When it’s straight, though, it’s evil.
Unless it's an older woman, what boy wouldn't want an old hag raping them...
That one pisses me off more as I've heard even 'right' leaning people go 'heyyy' when they hear a female teacher raped a male student. It's one of the reasons I'm alright with Shoeonhead because she goes 'they get the chipper too'
Had some drama with her ex armoured skeptic (who seemed to fall off for me) got involved with breadtube commies but they turned on her because she won't let go of her principle of hating all pedos equally.
She's just in a weird place where she could be a little more right and she'd be bang on with her critiques, like Dev but her hatred of pedos means I just say she's wrong about a few things and leave it at that.
Yeah, the african guy was acquired by Oda Nobunaga because some foreign trader or missionary had him and Nobunaga was like "what the fuck are you, you work for me now". Nobunaga was a rather impulsive figure, and the guy that rose from a provincial lord to unifier of the warring states through sheer strategic genius, balls and a lot of luck.
Nobunaga never mentioned him in his writing. Which is strange as Nobunaga would write poems about everything and a black person in Japan would stand out quite a lot.
Ok. I remember when I first heard about it, it sounded interesting. Why not have him as a playable character you can unlock or something. If it’s true that you can’t play as a Japanese male in a game set during the feudal period that is beyond ridiculous
They could have the women be a geisha (disguised as one, I guess she would be a kunoichi) and make it a far less actiony style of stealth game reminiscente of the times you would use blending in to a crowd in those games as opposed to running around and hiding in a bush.
Then have the black dude as a samurai as some daimyo's pet project like those people who get the same pet as a president. His style would be the more actiony one.
Then have a japanese dude that is the middle ground and is the properly trained, big clan, shinobi.
Sadly now I'm picturing a game that will probably be 10 times better with story from 3 distinct walks of life that could depict ancient cultures and the differences in how the people around you would react to the various characters.
Was that the one where they modded the engine to the point it supported Call of Duty action sequences in a legitimately impressive technical feat, but torpedoed the whole project by letting a guy write a bunch of slave and foot fetish stuff?
Oh it got worse, much worse. This video and the followup video both by Rimmy explains it all
It got bad to the point you had an under age va doing sexual voice lines, an under age character being sexual and a possible pedo as part of the 'dev team'
How about 'feminist reading of the twilight books' I'm betting that's worse..
Anyway it was interesting how his review led to a follow-up where it just revealed how what looked like a great mod if not standalone addition went to shit thanks to egos and some no due diligence.
I watch alot of Zach Hazard and Mike Burnfire - going by thier LPs of the Frontier, techical-wise, it really is fucking awesome and the bees knees. Like, alot of the stuff that's in it is rather innovative and impressive given the game engine is fucking ancient.
That seems to be the rule with alot of big-time Fallout:NV mods. Which is sad. A twisted part of me keeps wanting to try out Fallout: New California, but every time I come back to the Dev notes and the OC Donut Steel Self Inserts, I promptly feel the need to throw something through a window.
The male ninja would have a mix of both so you could always just play him actiony. But I see your point. I just hate that storytelling is dying when it doesn't have to.
Because that can almost make some sense; using her wiles and feminine charm to access secure areas as a ninja and perform stealth executions.
They're going to obviously tell a woke story about how female samurai were oppressed and she has to overcome the patriarchy and show she's just as strong as men.
i mean if you told the ancient samurai about female warriors, most of them would probably secretly laugh if not outright.
There's a reason why even though some noble women were trained in archery/naginata, they didn't really take part in battlefields but were more like the last line of defense when shit's gone to hell
Yeah honestly people who expect historical accuracy from AC games at this point are decades late to the party. It's been too long to remember the details, but I know AC3 shit all over American history. Valhalla had them unironically trying to justify killing one of the greatest roman emperors who is loved by practically everyone for promoting peace as being an evil guy who had to die because... uh... anarchy good?
The story would be better if written by ChatGPT, without exaggeration. The games live on because of the huge open worlds and gameplay and nothing else. Very soulless but it has its market. They are definite slave labor shops though, the amount of people who work on these games to churn them out over the dozen studios that do contract work is insane if you look at the credits.
I actually like the worlds they build. Odyssey & Valhalla are probably some of the prettiest art we'll ever see of Greco-Roman stuff in a modern AAA space, no one else does anything close, it's just a shame they're wasted on such shallow & horribly written games.
AFIK, there were zero African Shinobi in history. There was one African Samurai, and his situation was very unique and was kind of a big deal.
at least female samurai were not completely unheard of. I wonder if they have you play as an actual historical figure given that they were rare, or if they are just female washing history.
I'd ask if the game play is any good. But modern games have done away with such concepts and are just interactive stories with payment schemes, visuals and propaganda.
I think it's supposed to play like the rpg trilogy. I tried a three day trial of Valhalla awhile ago and didn't care for it, since it played more like HZD than the classic AC games.
Isn't this old news? Swear there was a post about this months ago...
And I'll reiterate what I said then, the African thing is stupid given how many Africans were in Asia in general at that time so using one as a shinobi is stupid, there were a few cases of female samauri but they'd be better as a Shinobi ironically as women can easily access certain areas most men can't so make effective spies and assassins.
Yeah, but to the liberal mind, since Yasuke existed, obviously 500% of the Japanese population must have been black.
Yasuke did not exist. Copy-pasting an older comment about this...
The sole argument for the existence of Yasuke is the Jesuit chronicles of their missions to Japan. Which were filled with nonsense and aren't taken seriously by most Catholics. Several of them were bloating their accounts in hopes of a bishopric.
Nobunaga never mentioned him in his own writings. Which given that Nobunaga would write poems about pretty much anything he laid eyes on, suggests that the two never met. The sole corroborating account stated that one of the missionary priests had a black servant, and they presented him as a curiosity to Nobunaga's court, but there is evidence of nothing else.
Here's another strain on historical credulity. Supposedly Yasuke fought for Nobunaga as a samurai. One of the claims is that he spoke fluent Japanese.
The time period between when they supposedly met and when Nobunaga was assassinated by Akechi Mitsuhide was... three months.
A black guy from what would now be Morocco, probably a slave to the priests, and someone whose language skills would have included mostly broken Portuguese, supposedly learned the second most difficult language on earth in three months. For reference, Japanese has three goddamn formal alphabets.
There is nothing about the story that is historically credible. There is more evidence of Santa Claus than there is of Yasuke. Now if you want a Japanese historical figure that is actually interesting and actually real, I suggest Honda Tadakatsu. He's a real life Hercules.
Sheeeeeeiiiiiiiittttttttttttttt.
We wuz samurai n shieeet
every time
I am starting to notice a pattern...
One of my best, thanks for the shout out.
So it was you! I'll credit you if I have to say this again.
It was indeed, and much obliged.
But also in their minds kids can consent so I put the opinion of a goldfish higher than theirs.
Now, now, let’s be fair. Kids can only consent when it’s a queer pairing. That way they’re allowed to explore their sexuality. When it’s straight, though, it’s evil.
Unless it's an older woman, what boy wouldn't want an old hag raping them...
That one pisses me off more as I've heard even 'right' leaning people go 'heyyy' when they hear a female teacher raped a male student. It's one of the reasons I'm alright with Shoeonhead because she goes 'they get the chipper too'
She went hard demsoc
Had some drama with her ex armoured skeptic (who seemed to fall off for me) got involved with breadtube commies but they turned on her because she won't let go of her principle of hating all pedos equally.
She's just in a weird place where she could be a little more right and she'd be bang on with her critiques, like Dev but her hatred of pedos means I just say she's wrong about a few things and leave it at that.
Is that African samurai legend true? Since I heard it in the last few years I’m skeptical
Yeah, the african guy was acquired by Oda Nobunaga because some foreign trader or missionary had him and Nobunaga was like "what the fuck are you, you work for me now". Nobunaga was a rather impulsive figure, and the guy that rose from a provincial lord to unifier of the warring states through sheer strategic genius, balls and a lot of luck.
Nobunaga never mentioned him in his writing. Which is strange as Nobunaga would write poems about everything and a black person in Japan would stand out quite a lot.
Ok. I remember when I first heard about it, it sounded interesting. Why not have him as a playable character you can unlock or something. If it’s true that you can’t play as a Japanese male in a game set during the feudal period that is beyond ridiculous
They could have the women be a geisha (disguised as one, I guess she would be a kunoichi) and make it a far less actiony style of stealth game reminiscente of the times you would use blending in to a crowd in those games as opposed to running around and hiding in a bush.
Then have the black dude as a samurai as some daimyo's pet project like those people who get the same pet as a president. His style would be the more actiony one.
Then have a japanese dude that is the middle ground and is the properly trained, big clan, shinobi.
Sadly now I'm picturing a game that will probably be 10 times better with story from 3 distinct walks of life that could depict ancient cultures and the differences in how the people around you would react to the various characters.
Welcome to the Bethesda modding Community, with a 90% hit ratio for making story based expansions BETTER than Bethesda can make
The 10% is Fallout NV Frontier........we try not to talk about that anymore....
Was that the one where they modded the engine to the point it supported Call of Duty action sequences in a legitimately impressive technical feat, but torpedoed the whole project by letting a guy write a bunch of slave and foot fetish stuff?
Oh it got worse, much worse. This video and the followup video both by Rimmy explains it all
It got bad to the point you had an under age va doing sexual voice lines, an under age character being sexual and a possible pedo as part of the 'dev team'
You could not possibly present two videos I'm less likely to click.
How about 'feminist reading of the twilight books' I'm betting that's worse..
Anyway it was interesting how his review led to a follow-up where it just revealed how what looked like a great mod if not standalone addition went to shit thanks to egos and some no due diligence.
I watch alot of Zach Hazard and Mike Burnfire - going by thier LPs of the Frontier, techical-wise, it really is fucking awesome and the bees knees. Like, alot of the stuff that's in it is rather innovative and impressive given the game engine is fucking ancient.
Story-wise, though, it's an absolute clusterfuck.
That seems to be the rule with alot of big-time Fallout:NV mods. Which is sad. A twisted part of me keeps wanting to try out Fallout: New California, but every time I come back to the Dev notes and the OC Donut Steel Self Inserts, I promptly feel the need to throw something through a window.
the downfall with this style is that you would have to play as a negro to get the action playstyle
The male ninja would have a mix of both so you could always just play him actiony. But I see your point. I just hate that storytelling is dying when it doesn't have to.
Why didn't they just go with a female Ninja then?
Because that can almost make some sense; using her wiles and feminine charm to access secure areas as a ninja and perform stealth executions.
They're going to obviously tell a woke story about how female samurai were oppressed and she has to overcome the patriarchy and show she's just as strong as men.
No, this is Ubisoft. They are just going to pretend that this female samurai was a perfectly natural thing with all of the characters acting as such.
i mean if you told the ancient samurai about female warriors, most of them would probably secretly laugh if not outright.
There's a reason why even though some noble women were trained in archery/naginata, they didn't really take part in battlefields but were more like the last line of defense when shit's gone to hell
I heard this too as a rumor. I would imagine most samurai were men? Also isn’t this just a little insulting to Japanese culture assuming it’s true?
Seeing as most women were wives or concubines in ancient Japan, yes it's kinda ridiculous but a black character in ancient Japan is ever sillier.
This is where someone in game development says hey guys let’s have Japanese characters
It is old news, it was a rumor back then so I assume now it is fact. For the woman, they are probably going to make her some valley feminist
And his name? Nigeru
Nigeru Ritercahk, he of massive sword cuts to scene of black dude waving a tanto
I have supreme nigger fatigue
Yeah honestly people who expect historical accuracy from AC games at this point are decades late to the party. It's been too long to remember the details, but I know AC3 shit all over American history. Valhalla had them unironically trying to justify killing one of the greatest roman emperors who is loved by practically everyone for promoting peace as being an evil guy who had to die because... uh... anarchy good?
Being black would let you sneak around better. Just don't smile. lmao
plus he can jog a lot
Holy fuckball are they still making ASScreed games? I thought this piece of shit series was long dead and buried years and years ago.
Turns out you can basically have ChatGPT write the whole thing, so they'll never stop.
The story would be better if written by ChatGPT, without exaggeration. The games live on because of the huge open worlds and gameplay and nothing else. Very soulless but it has its market. They are definite slave labor shops though, the amount of people who work on these games to churn them out over the dozen studios that do contract work is insane if you look at the credits.
I actually like the worlds they build. Odyssey & Valhalla are probably some of the prettiest art we'll ever see of Greco-Roman stuff in a modern AAA space, no one else does anything close, it's just a shame they're wasted on such shallow & horribly written games.
More creative and historically accurate too.
I think I'm just going to wait until the Ghost of Tsushima PC port arrives on Steam...
Me too. A foreign-studio game that was almost universally praised in Japan.
I wonder what the Japanese will say about this one...
utter dogshit
KUSO!
Probably won't even notice it exists, Japanese are very insular and only a tiny niche audience there even plays western games.
I guess vtubers like Korone playing AC helps the exposure, but overall it isn't a big deal in the market.
Its fantasy@!!!.. unless its sexy boob armor.
AFIK, there were zero African Shinobi in history. There was one African Samurai, and his situation was very unique and was kind of a big deal.
at least female samurai were not completely unheard of. I wonder if they have you play as an actual historical figure given that they were rare, or if they are just female washing history.
The most conspicuous man in the country would make a rather poor infiltrator.
Even that so called samurai is disputed to say the least as there are not a whole lot of documents confirming that he existed.
Let me guess.. both are ugly and both are lovers.
Nice to see Ubisoft are taking the historical authenticity of their Assassins Creed games seriously.
I'd ask if the game play is any good. But modern games have done away with such concepts and are just interactive stories with payment schemes, visuals and propaganda.
I think it's supposed to play like the rpg trilogy. I tried a three day trial of Valhalla awhile ago and didn't care for it, since it played more like HZD than the classic AC games.
If they're going for realism, I had better see a giant enemy crab.
(Yes, that's sarcasm)